Liverpool banter 5

05 Oct 2026 16:04:25
I'm reading that both Isak & Gakpo will miss the City game - at least! Hope that doesn't put their form back. They have both made positive starts to the season.

05 Oct 2026 22:20:28
Where are you reading that? Gakpo will likely miss it, but everything I've read has said Isak should be fine.

06 Oct 2026 00:20:57
I hope you're right Fornax. I was reading an article about Ngumoha, and it was mentioned in that.

Looks like JJ will be missing too.

06 Oct 2026 09:44:36
KBL based on what I have read, Isak should be fine and he has been receiving treatment at Anfield for the past 10 days as he did not play the last two games for Sweden.

06 Oct 2026 11:58:09
Cheers Oli. That would be good news.

06 Oct 2026 14:41:37
No qualms, KBL. That would be good news indeed.

06 Oct 2026 15:03:43
Isak will be fine. Generally things don't come from Sweden in one piece but fortunately there was a few handy diagrams in the flat-pack so we've managed to put him together.

05 Oct 2026 20:48:41
Jacquet is injured today that's bad news for our next game.

05 Oct 2026 23:24:49
Hammy apparently. Those are usually multiple weeks. What a abomination this long, senseless, International window is so soon after the summer!

{Ed666's Note - from what I read it’s not a pull it’s just sore/tight so he maybe ok for the weekend? I think not starting for France was precautionary.

06 Oct 2026 09:46:36
Nah, he'll be fine. I saw the first France/Belgium game and while the interviews were happening on the pitch, I caught a glimpse of Jax limping in the background.

As Ed said, I think he will be okay as he didn't even play last night in the return leg.

06 Oct 2026 12:26:45
Agreed Kaiser, I think it's an absolute disgrace, and for a mickey mouse tournament too, it should be disbanded.

06 Oct 2026 14:43:07
Exactly, Chewy. These are glorified friendlies masquerading as some prestigious tournament.

06 Oct 2026 08:03:50
I hope so Ed666. I really dislike these international breaks so soon in to the new domestic season. There has just been the longest World Cup in history finishing not 12 weeks ago and now we have more games. No wonder top players are injured so often.

{Ed666's Note - JJ out for 3 weeks!!!

06 Oct 2026 17:51:44
Glad to hear others complaining about internationals. I really don't see the point of these ever. Let them practice a few weeks before a tournament once the season is over. None of these team show any chemistry or tactical cohesion that warrant multiple season interrupting breaks every year.

It's a complete waste of time and energy on behalf of everyone involved. Additionally, who even watches these? Seriously what is the point?

06 Oct 2026 18:55:41
@chewy, until the players and federations standup against this it will not end.

06 Oct 2026 18:58:27
Snuggle, I'm not anti International football. The Euro's and World Cup are still the most watched sporting events in the world (along with CL Final) and I like rooting for countries and good football. But this 3 week window non sense just after a long summer is just asinine!

05 Oct 2026 10:19:28
A question for the Ed's if u would be so kind

If as looks likely, the charges against city are upheld, do we then think they will be investigated for later offences?
I'm only asking because the current charges are up to 2018/2019 I think, so what's to say they haven't continued with their sham sponsorships?

{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware they are not investigating, but they should be and I would hope it is just that I don't know about it. It would be sensible to check their finances every year, they can't possibly have just been guilty in the years the charges were for, there will be, at the very least, a large overlap with regards to contracts.}

05 Oct 2026 11:36:58
I would hazard a guess that all the money put in during that time would be enough to pad the club for a good few years like Chelsea did under Roman.
If you look at city's dealings recently there net spend is not crazy because they have had so many players to sell to help with that.


Thats why every trophy should be taken from them not just that time period.

05 Oct 2026 12:03:42
Of course, the later years should be investigated. I'm not saying there's a problem with the recent Haaland contract, but how on Earth do you sign a player for the next 8 years at 500, 000 per week? That's a committed outlay of 208 Million until 2034 for just one player.

And I've never gotten my head around buying him initially for only 51 Million (going up to 85 Million). I am so sure there were undisclosed additional amounts involved. How else do you beat clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona (who are confirmed masters at this part of the game)?

05 Oct 2026 11:55:44
Totally agree ed001 and thanks for the reply.
Think the old adage " once a cheat always a cheat " is relevant here.

05 Oct 2026 12:39:12
Some of the stories flying around about this are insane: City sponsors threatening to sue the Premier League whilst City bases their appeal on a defence that directly contradicts information that they have given authorities in the past and the Saudi government attempting to blackmail the British government by threatening to withdraw funding for things if City are found guilty.

That alone should trigger a failure of the 'fit and proper owner' test and they should not be allowed a financial interest in any Premier League club.

{Ed001's Note - this is nothing to do with Saudis! Please drop the ignorance.}

05 Oct 2026 12:40:51
I have asked further down so apologies if it is seen as repeated. However, in the balance of probabilities, will the Womens team who also underwent a significatn transformation over the same years be held to the same account?

05 Oct 2026 12:47:57
You wonder whether the Premier League would leverage the possibility of investigation the more recent years in any negotiations related to appeals, sanctions and the possibility of taking it to the High Court.

Unfortunately, City owners have shown they will stop at absolutely nothing, so its impossible to speculate really. A depressing situation for English football!

05 Oct 2026 12:54:19
The Saudi government has nothing to do with City. I believe you mean the UAE government is the one threatening to pull out of investments since they are the ones who own City.

05 Oct 2026 13:04:54
Yeah, but they all look the same don't they.

05 Oct 2026 14:34:29
Only an Aussie would say something like that! Be careful WdW, irony rarely transcends message boards. 😜.

05 Oct 2026 15:13:33
It's like calling the British government the French or the Germans.

All part of Europe so we're all the same surely?

I don't agree with the casual racism allegations though. I think it's just a general geographical ignorance.

05 Oct 2026 15:13:55
Is there any actual real evidence the UAE have threatened to withdraw investment?
All I've seen is "reports say" or "our sources say".

05 Oct 2026 14:22:41
It's always "the Saudis". Probably because a small minority can't actually name another middle Eastern country. Saudi is a fantastic country for the most part in comparison to a lot of the middle East, some of which are complete hell holes.

05 Oct 2026 16:25:32
The city foundation is inflated by the cheating. Therefore anything built on it is directly linked.

I'd expect legally it's almost impossible to prove. Somewhere a line will be drawn if they can prove the practice has stopped. Which i'd like to think it has as soon as the investigation was launched.

This will drag years in the hope the PL effectively give up or resources dry up and I am certain the punishment won't fit the crime.

I think titles go and a huge points reduction. But they'll be straight back up and challenging. I just hope they don't win the league, otherwise another year has gone to the cheats.

05 Oct 2026 16:50:10
I don't think Shipley is racist but an off the cuff remark by WDW ( typical) got us debating it. Absolute blurt ( WDW) why would you even say something like that? You thought it no one else.!

05 Oct 2026 16:51:51
I think a points deduction this season, that will relegate them, further 20-25 points deductions for numerous seasons when they return to the PL, all titles stripped for the period under investigation and a significant fine.

This can't be merely a one and done sanction, they should suffer for their cheating for years to come.

05 Oct 2026 17:52:51
It's not easy being geographically challenged.

Side note: Shipley's not racist, he just finds it hard to differentiate between extraordinarily wealthy Arabs, WDW made a joke about it and it all went straight over Scouse John's head.

05 Oct 2026 18:49:27
Nothing went over my head lad.

05 Oct 2026 22:03:46
@Delvecs, whilst I live in Oz, I'm actually from Liverpool (West Derby). The humour was / is Scouse.

In my opinion, people who either don't know, or can't be bothered checking 1) where City's owners come from and / or 2) can't understand and / or distinguish between the UAE and its constituent states and Saudi Arabia, deserve to be laughed at.

06 Oct 2026 03:10:47
People will say I'm harsh but in my opinion we shouldn't let a burglar keep the stolen goods even if he goes to jail.


They have built a reputation and history on I'll gotten gains. All those gains need to be removed. All trophies removed

They have also totally disrespected the sport, the league and their partners and shouldn't be given the chance to run some David Vs goliath romance campaign by playing good football and charming the lower leagues. It should be a full sporting ban, they shouldn't be given the chance to do damage control. It should be sporting jail.

{Ed666's Note - You cockblocker Nevada I was looking forward to being romanced..

06 Oct 2026 09:26:37
It won't be though, will it? Let's be realistic. The City owners have too many influential friends.
It will be a "deal" to bring an end to legal proceedings and keep City owners engaged, but it will be meaningful punishment.
The players won't all be up for Bosman's - apart from anything else that will just inflate wages even more.

I honestly expect a big fine, maybe over a hundred million and moderate points deductions for several PL seasons.
I would propose 30 points a season for 5 seasons.

Gives them a miniscule chance of winning the league.
Gives them a half chance of getting into the CL.
That way they can still get in to the European competitions even though it will be very tough. More likely they will win a few cup competitions and get in to Europe that way.

06 Oct 2026 09:49:43
@Ron, someone said that at a minimum, City should get a 40 point deduction for 5 years. That way, they need 80 points just to stay up.

What do you think?

06 Oct 2026 10:47:22
Yeah that sort of range Oli. I think 30 will be more acceptable to City to prevent players and owners leaving and to make them drop legal proceedings.

30 means their maximum points net would be 84 which in some seasons would win the title. 70 points to stay up, 90 points to get into to the European conversation.
Feels about right, 90 points is a tough ask.
So 30-40 points is where it'll probably end up, over 40 probably relegates them and may make players and owners leave.

06 Oct 2026 12:32:48
Titles stripped, relegated at least 2 divisions, min 30 points deduction for 5 years, 5 year transfer ban, owners, execs and anyone complicit should all be banned from the league for life.

Anything less than that says "Premier League, Cheaters Welcome!".

07 Oct 2026 08:11:54
Behave @SJL8. Try and find your sense of humour. It must be in there somewhere amongst the PC righteous indignation.

I apologise that I didn't flag it as an attempt at humour but I believe that there was no damage to any Saudi, Emirati or any of the others who all look the same .

05 Oct 2026 07:39:02
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05 Oct 2026 02:31:22
Ed 001
Semenyo will be a big threat on Sunday (still really wished we had signed him) and not least of all because Kerkez is utter crap, he really needs the support of the midfield on Sunday but I'm not sure who is the best 3 (still think we need two new recruits) I would personally drop Wirtz for this game
If you could pick one player to replace Kerkez in January, who would that be?

{Ed001's Note - are you being serious? Kerkez is not utter crap at all. He was one of our better players last time out.}

05 Oct 2026 06:51:21
Well said, Kerkez is this season's kicking boy.

05 Oct 2026 07:34:02
They take it in turns @Fat, this week Kirkez, next week Wirtz.

05 Oct 2026 07:57:33
Apparently we've only about 2 or 3 good players😂.kerkez just needs to relax a bit.

05 Oct 2026 08:03:29
Kerkez had a great game for Hungary a few days ago too, he will be full of confidence.

05 Oct 2026 09:15:52
@Hughes if you actually have been watching City this season, Semenyo plays on the left while N'diaye plays on the right over the past few games so if Semenyo will be a threat to any of our fullbacks, he will be going against Araujo and I fancy my chances here.

So your attacks on Kerkez went up in smoke if what I mentioned above is true because Kerkez will be going against N'Diaye and once again, I fancy my chances here.

Flo & Patrik for me, it is becoming utterly tiring and tedious at this point with the way some of our fans personally attack our players sometimes out of the blue like this pathetic post. It was Wirtz (still is, btw) and now is Kerkez. Tedious as heck.

05 Oct 2026 09:19:37
Kerkez was being hung out to dry getting no defensive support. He has improved massively now that Iraola has made our setup a bit more solid and Virg is not worrying about his right-sided defensive partner.

05 Oct 2026 09:38:27
I do wonder how much some of the posters on this site actually watch us play. We look solid at the moment, Kerkez is part of that. He's not perfect, but he's playing decently well imo and still only 22.

05 Oct 2026 10:01:50
With you FORNAX, 5 games into the season and people are forgetting about the whole giving everyone a chance after Slot left.

05 Oct 2026 10:05:25
Yep agree with some of the above not OP.

Our whole defence looks much much better VvD is looking like he is not past his best, engaging and imposing and much much less visibly attacking kerkez. JJ blindfolded looks about to be a better option then Konate / Bambi. not comparing the 2 and obviously more factors involved, but the massive shift in defence stability is much akin to when VvD arrived. (As a whole)

I was going to ask what people's thoughts were on the line up. i think i would start Mac Nyoni and Wirtz. if Gakpo is injured Barcola on left, Munoz on right. Rio to come off bench. or even Chiesa for last 10 or 15 if fit. as we are at home and he certainly gets the crowd going to another level! (Got to love the cult favourite)

Looking forward to the game. dreading the build up and the media frenzy circus that will follow it.

05 Oct 2026 10:08:51
I'm not bothered about not signing Semenyo. I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

He has the odd decent game here and there, but just saunters around the pitch for the most part.

Decent player on his day, but doesn't warrant the reputation he seems to have with some.

05 Oct 2026 10:14:11
I'm old enough to remember when Gakpo was the whipping boy.

05 Oct 2026 10:20:30
I am yet to be sold on Kerkez, positionally I think he's weak, a bit rash in challenges, doesn't know when to drop or go tight, and a big frustration of mine he tries slide tackling on the wrong side of his man like Moreno used to, he still really can not cross either.

I think for what we paid we certainly could have gt a far better left back, but there have been improvement on last year, I still believe if a better left back option became available, we should go for them.

05 Oct 2026 10:25:14
I will continue to have a pop at Wirtz and Kerkez, because I can. I'm on record as saying that up till now Wirtz has been a waste of money and Kerkez is just an upgrade on Moreno, nothing more. Let's not run away with the idea that he's the next Roberto Carlos.

05 Oct 2026 11:18:05
I can't imagine the City players heads are going to be fully on the job at hand after all this coming out. Plus the crowd will rattle them. I think they need to be more concerned about us than us of them this time round.


Imagine trying to play effectively against us at Anfield when in the back of your mind your wondering if your going to be playing in the conference next season with the crowd reminding them with every touch.

05 Oct 2026 11:42:47
I think all the tiring and tedius fans should return their best fans in the world badges.

05 Oct 2026 12:12:42
It was tiring and tedious how some of our fans continually and personally attacked the previous head coach.
It was far worse than what I've read about Kerkez and Wirtz.

05 Oct 2026 11:53:26
Because you can or because it's warranted Rome?

05 Oct 2026 11:46:26
I watch us play Fornax. He's not a whipping boy it's just that he's not a great LB. Like I have previously said there's a mistake in him just waiting to happen each and every game. He's unreliable and if we're chasing the titles we don't need that. However, like FW, he absolutely deserves his chances this season under Iraola to prove his worth.

Perhaps he will. In the interim I'm just saying what I see. Sunday will go somewhat towards knowing if his good performance last time out can be replicated but City will beyond doubt target him as a weakness in our defence. Hopefully he'll prove them wrong. I really want to win this one and shove the whole of Anfield down their neck to choke on!

05 Oct 2026 12:13:31
It's like a "flashmob" mentality on here sometimes. Once a player is criticized by a poster (rightly or wongly is not being discussed here), 2 or 3 others will chime in, and then the stampede flows in, elevating it to flashmob status.

And then the whipping boy status lingers regardless of how the player is doing on the pitch. The saving grace is always scoring a goal. Watch how Mac Allister goes up and down in peoples' minds regularly depending on the "blinder" goals he scores. 😉.

05 Oct 2026 12:33:49
Kerkez's defensive game is fine. I wouldn't have any issues with him up against Semenyo or any other RW in the Premier League tbh.

I can understand the complaints about the attacking and/or ball progression side of his game, but defensively, he seems fine to me.

05 Oct 2026 12:52:23
Yes FPF. That would be the way I would look at Kerkez also.

05 Oct 2026 12:59:14
People often forget how poor Robertson when he first played for us. He was benched for Moreno after that first game if I remember correctly and many people were saying that he was a poor signing and that Moreno was better. Players take time to adjust especially those who have had two coaches/managers in two seasons.

Moreno is doing alright but I feel that people are just waiting for him to commit one small error before jumping on his back. He was poor when he firsr played for us last season but he has improved a lot since then.

05 Oct 2026 13:13:45
Rome I have to agree on Wirtz so far not sure how much is confidence now because he has regressed a bit now.
Kerkez is a lot better than Moreno but his biggest problem is he just needs to calm down he tries to win everything and it makes him reckless at times his final ball needs improvement but like I say if he just slows down a bit am sure he will improve all aspects of his game.


AI will improve both players am sure my biggest concern is Frimpong who has never shown any signs to say he can make the grade.
After him Gravenberch is the next problem because he just can't pass the ball good enough and I feel he thinks he is just a lot better than he is.

05 Oct 2026 13:22:01

Gonna be an absolute melt down on here if Kerkez, Wirtz & Dom have a great game and we batter City - highly unlikely according to some tho, given how crap they are.



Or flip side we get beat and at least some of our players can have a break from being crap for a few days while we hyperventilate about how City shouldn’t even been in the league.



Enough of this International break b******, let’s get back to proper football and bashing half the squad before a balls been kicked 🤦‍♂️

05 Oct 2026 14:32:05
If Kerkez was a forward you could say many of his game traits like, unconventional positioning; both relative to his team mates and the opposition, like unpredictable movement on and off the ball, especially in combination play. Making risky high reward passes.

Like stopping play and giving away freekicks. Preserving his legs by using his hands to make blocking tackles. All this would make him a difficult forward to manage for the opposition. unfortunately, as a defender.

He has a lot of improvement to make to become a plus.

05 Oct 2026 17:17:23
Rio, in my humble opinion its warranted.

06 Oct 2026 02:59:06
Hard to keep up, the whipping boy was Dom wasn't it? Maybe it's a Hungarian thing.

06 Oct 2026 09:24:14
I personally hope that Anfield is an absolute cauldron of toxic loathing for those cheating cretins, that would be enough to negatively affect City. Good old fashioned intimidation from the court of public opinion.

06 Oct 2026 09:28:58
We should amalgamate the whipping boys to make it easier to keep up.

Wirtkez.

08 Oct 2026 02:41:00
If you mixed the Hungarians together and had a go at them, would it be a goulash? Sorry 🙁.

04 Oct 2026 19:22:52
Apologize if people are getting sick of posts about the 115, but I had a question: does anyone know what could happen to their titles after the investigation period?

The period investigated goes from 08-18 but they won if 18-19 and then 4 times in 20-24 so essentially 5 titles after the period they were found guilty of cheating.

I still don't understand why some people are opposed to removing titles, but I think that's the first thing that has to be done. The scale of their cheating is absurd: 9 out of every 10 pounds of income were found to be fraudulent over the period and they were cheating more at the end than they were at the beginning of the period investigated, so you can reasonably infer that they continued to cheat after the investigation period which calls into question the 5 additional titles.

So my question is, 1) if you don't think titles should be stripped, I truly would like to understand why. And 2) can/should the 5 titles after the investigation period also be invalidated?

04 Oct 2026 20:54:20
I think for the obfuscation, arrogance, failure to engage with the process, constant litigation they engaged in to delay things, and sheer volume of the charges, stripping them of the titles is one of many reasonable outcomes.

04 Oct 2026 20:56:22
I want all their titles taken off them, but not sure what happens to them afterwards. Do the 2nd placed teams get them or just not given to any team! Even after the time period in question, the squad has still been helped from their previous law breaking.

04 Oct 2026 21:09:56
They should be removed and the years left blank as a permanent mark and reminder of the disgraceful practices.

Handing the titles to 2nd would be of very little benefit this far down the line. I know we would benefit. But now it would be a hollow victory. The club, the players and staff and the fans have been robbed of a generational period in the clubs history already.

But above all there needs to be a permanent mark as a deterrent.

Not a massive Newcastle fan however you have to respect the fact they have more money than anyone but are still trying to work in the confines of the rules and build properly year on year.

04 Oct 2026 21:02:27
What ever happens they need removing from the Premier League.
We have seen the Arab nation leaders think there money gives them the rights to do what they want.

Look at the Jamal Khashoggi as a point of reference.
But nowadays you state facts and you're a racist. I am not a racist I have friends from different countries religions I have friends and family members who are gay so I have no problems with anyone.


But the UAE statement about investment in the uk if city found guilty shows exactly what they are like.

They need removing from football because this is not a vehicle to cover up that part of the worlds horrific human rights abuses.

04 Oct 2026 22:24:06
Slightly cynical: would there be a case that City get stripped (I think they should be stripped of everything won under this ownership as it's been built on cheating) and other owners are reluctant to want them awarded retrospectively due to having to also then possibly shell out retrospective bonuses to players who retired years ago 🤷‍♂️ not saying footballers are greedy but I imagine a fair few would happily stick their hands out.

04 Oct 2026 22:27:29
Those 5 titles after the investigation period would never have happened without the decade of cheating that preceded them so yes they should have all trophies (not just titles) removed from the day the Abu Dhabi's took over.

I think it's already happened in most fans' eyes but they should be removed from the record books completely.

04 Oct 2026 23:17:18
I might be wrong but I think the investigation stops where it does because that's all the evidence the investigators have. Up to that point.
No doubt City carried on after that date but unless the investigators get solid evidence of wrong doing in them years then it's not going to get investigated.

With regards to stripping titles I have no issue whatsoever with them being stripped of every single cup in that time frame.
I'd give them all to the second placed teams as well because why not? I'd rather we won trophies the traditional way but I'll take them all the same. But yeah stripped away from City as a bare minimum.

I don't think it would be fair to strip titles from after the investigated years.

However, I'd include in the list of sanctions that they have to open the books fully for the later years as well, so round two when they are inevitably found guilty there as well.

If anyone's in any doubt I hope Man City gets the book thrown at them and they get absolutely hammered to the point where they turn back into Man City of old.

It would be nice if the owners got booted out and the fans took over as well.

04 Oct 2026 23:30:27
Whilst they should be stripped of all titles, the league would have to find City were actually breaking the rules during the season in question, if they did strip them for the 09-18 period, I can't see the league doing the same for any season beyond that, with their only reason being, "You never would have won those titles had you not cheated previously." Technically it's impossible to say or prove so the grounds for such an argument just aren't there. What hopefully will happen is that a guilty verdict, should it be upheld, may warrant the league to further investigate from '18 until now, likely turning up more dodgey dealings, though after City caught wind of the leaks, I imagine they went to greater lengths to cook the books, still, money leaves a trail, hundreds of millions are hard to hide.

Only time will tell, but we're a ways off any follow-up investigations at the moment. I have no idea if simply finding City guilty during one period gave enough grounds for the league to investigate them for another, the rules seem quite broad and I suppose a lot of it will be based on how the league determines "suspicion.".

05 Oct 2026 00:37:33
@OP, in answer to your original question, no, nobody knows. That said, we have all had a go at guessing what might happen, the uncertainty comes from there being no precedent to base our guesses on as what City have done has never been done before, at least on the scale that City have done it. I'm sure we'll find out sometime in the mid-2030s.

05 Oct 2026 00:38:37
'9 out of every 10 pounds of income were found to be fraudulent over the period and they were cheating more at the end than they were at the beginning of the period investigated, '

I don't think that can be right.

05 Oct 2026 04:47:30
They are allowed to play on 11oct that shows how Premier League is and it lacks the cojones to get things done.
They should have been banned from football as they are now found guilty and all matches should have been forfeit 3-0 till they prove otherwise- that's how you get quick conclusions and protect fans and players and staff. Once again this is not a charge anymore city have been found guilty.
As of now Premier League has thrown city players and fans in the gauntlet and they will receive abuse and shame at all stadiums for no mistake of theirs and the owners will run scott free with probably a gentle slap on wrists by the end of it all
Why? What have the players staff and fans done wrong in this? You have found the club guilty on all counts - so ban them immediate effect so that the owners suffer - the fans demand their club back and the players get to decide their future.
Let the law run its course till the extent of punishment gets decided but surely you ban the owners and club from any football till that happens. How can Premier League let city involved in any football when found guilty on all counts is absolutely baffling.
By allowing them to play and participate you have already given them a pass.
What happens when they win the title this year? Cheaters win title again - yes a brilliant look for Premier League and you also give owners an insanely simple out a chance to recover everything - they can sell all their players in January to cover whatever fine Premier League imposes on them and then carry on as if nothing happened.
Idiots absolute idiots all around. Reeks of corruption and incompetence.

Btw This happens when players conduct badly - red card is 3 match ban, biting is 10 match ban and its immediate. Even at international scene there is precedent where teams have been banned.

All this national and international shame on the league and you allow them to play on!

05 Oct 2026 06:17:03
Seen a take that if City didn't do what they did Brendan Rodgers wins the title possibly isn't sacked and Klopp never comes to Liverpool and ends up at Utd.

On that evidence alone it's a not guilty from me.

05 Oct 2026 07:58:10
It's about right actually @Rigsby, in sponsorship terms at least. A table exists showing where the sponsorship money came from and 9/10ths of it was from the owners/government albeit it was hidden as if it came from sponsors,

If you google something like ' man city cheat table showing income' you'll get a full breakdown.

05 Oct 2026 09:21:58
"I might be wrong but I think the investigation stops where it does because that's all the evidence the investigators have. Up to that point."

This is the key here because even tho, we can all speculate that they may have been cheating even after 17/18, others are saying they should be stripped of everything even after that period as the decade of cheating set them up for life afterwards essentially.

All that is speculation without real evidence and not sure the PL want to get into that even tho, many of us think they should.

As for punishment, Strip them of everything they won in that time period (those PL seasons should remain blank and voided), send them back to League 2 for a mandatory 3 years and a mandatory 5 year transfer ban. Simple.

05 Oct 2026 10:28:49
No one will realistically know what happens with city until the final results are published after a failed appeal

My own personal opinion is that, all titles should subsequently be stripped at the final year of the charges, the prems own investigation indicates. only 8% of the 17/18 payments were legitimate. so why they would suddenly think that jumps to 100% after the investigation years would be beyond any reasonable expectations.

Personally I think it behoves the prem to investigate ever other year since the initial charges too. I can only think that given they aren't initiating any further charges It means the "sanctions will be so severe further investigation just doesn't need any warranting.

As it stands based on the charges up until 17/18 Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool, Man United have reserved the right to sue city for a combined total of £800m. Along with players who will be indivuidually suing for lost bonuses, etc.

I can't see how City as an entity survive, which is why they are pressuring Burnham to get involved through threats of withdrawing funding. Even now the focus is on Manchester council CEO and Burnhams minutes with ADUG(which given labours record here) likely weren't minuted.

05 Oct 2026 10:59:39
Quick question and I will leave it alone.

Given this is the case for the mens team and that the womens team also underwent a miraculous transformation over the same time period. Are they also in the firing line? Equality is everything in todays day and age after all.

05 Oct 2026 11:20:48
I remember that season Rodgers got sacked, the league win would have given him a little credit in the bank but not much and not enough considering Klopp was available.

05 Oct 2026 12:33:37
Mikey, that thought poses a very good question. If we had won the title that year would we fans (who were disgruntled with him because of a variety of reasons) pushed it all under the rug and celebrated being Champions instead?

In hindsight, I probably would have. Simply because of how I was with Slot. I didn't like him mostly for slowing down our style of play and how he communicated in interviews and conferences. But I celebrated wildly when we won with him. Probably because I also told myself "not everyone can be like Klopp. Shut up and celebrate being a winner".

05 Oct 2026 13:13:20
I consider that City should be fined the 900 million pounds they artificially injected in the club, as well as any other sanctions. Payable within 9 months. I do not know the state of the clubs current finances but I would suggest they would need to liquidate their first eleven to avoid bankruptcy.

Knowing the ownership they would probably try to buy their players and lease them back at a peppercorn rent!

06 Oct 2026 02:59:41
No one on here knows brother.

04 Oct 2026 14:47:05
Letting J Quansah go was a blunder. It's basically the same kind of mistake as Chelsea letting KDB or Palmer go.

The lad is already doing really well in the Bundesliga, and Tuchel clearly trusts him enough to throw him straight into the mix.

If Quansah keeps developing like this, Liverpool could seriously end up regretting letting him leave.

04 Oct 2026 16:18:31
They can always exercise the first refusal buy back clause.

04 Oct 2026 17:10:22
So you're basically saying Quansah is the defender equivalent of Kevin De Bruyne?

04 Oct 2026 17:12:38
Maybe he has found his level in Bundesliga. Besides, I think we have enough good centre backs at the moment. Who is he going to bench?

04 Oct 2026 17:35:37
I'm more than happy my faith in Leoni, Jacquet, Ndukwe, Aurajo and Ndiye. I don't think he'd get a look in to be honest.

{Ed666's Note - Quansah is the perfect example of a footballer who has a limited skills at his profession but has got to the pinnacle through hard work and a let’s face it luck. Would I have him back at Liverpool absolutely not but I wish him all the best and hope has a stellar career.

04 Oct 2026 17:36:11
I guess OP was on a wound up. I wouldn't drop Jacquet for Quansah. Leoni looks like a decent prospect too. I mean he was playing first team footie for Parma before we got him and he showed great signs in the few mins he played vs Southampton.

Araujo is looking reborn, the exact opposite of the player Barca fans made jest of the club for getting. Quansah was not good enough for us and we have improved the position he should be plying imho. He has my blessing but please let's move on.

{Ed666's Note - I was telling the Ed’s 001, Ed’s 025 and Seamus in the podcasts for ages we need to sign Jacquet. Way before most people had heard of him and I’m so glad that not only did we buy him that’s he playing the way he is. The guy will be a top 3 CB for the next 6-8 years (barring injury). Hes only 21 and will get exponentially better. The comparison between him and Quansah is like night and day.

04 Oct 2026 17:54:37
Not comparing the players, I'm comparing the potential regret. History has a funny way of repeating itself. 👀.

04 Oct 2026 18:15:51
Wish Quansah all the best. He could have played a squad role for us I believe but that's about it. I reckon he will get a big move at some point though simply due to being young and English, but I can't see him ever being a starting CB for a top team competing for the highest honours.

He'll have a good career though and fair play to him for that.

04 Oct 2026 20:05:40
Quansah was absolutely gash, he's no where near our level.

04 Oct 2026 22:57:44
You have to ask yourself, if he'd never been a Liverpool player would we be clambering for us to sign him? Would he even be mentioned in relation to Liverpool?

The answer is an emphatic no.

I wish him all the best and he could've been a decent squad player for us but he's certainly no Kevin de Bruyne.

04 Oct 2026 23:33:30
Moving him on certainly seemed premature, even if we did secure Guehi, with our history and issues with the CB position, keeping him around would serve us well, but he's getting invaluable experience that he likely wouldn't have got with us.

05 Oct 2026 00:40:36
Quansah isn't good enough. He looked ok playing in a pointless international against a team who - on the evidence of their last game - would struggle in the Championsip. @666 has it right, hard work, luck and limited talent.

05 Oct 2026 00:42:56
I thought it was decent business, at the time.
I still think the same but I don't usually watch England or Leverkusen.

05 Oct 2026 09:25:40
"The comparison between him and Quansah is like night and day."

The comparison shouldn't even exist even tho, the OP has clarified his stance. Credit to him as that helps with the debate.

Quansah is nowhere near Jacquet and even though I supported Quansah and thought he could be good, he simply was found out to not be at the level and the CB's we have now currently playing, are better than him. So in that situation, might as well let him go so he can flourish somewhere else.

05 Oct 2026 12:38:30
Not sure why Quansah's name keeps coming up. He lacks aggression in his game. In which case, why would we want him back?

04 Oct 2026 10:49:36
Anybody see any update or timescale on gakpo injury?

05 Oct 2026 14:05:41
He came back to Liverpool for scans and that is never a good sign. Pretty sure he won't be available for 11th at the very least.

04 Oct 2026
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04 Oct 2026 10:44:18
Proper merchant banker him.

04 Oct 2026 11:20:15
He's a W⚓️.

04 Oct 2026 15:13:43
Cant believe that's a genuine ad, they picked the right *anker alright 🤣.