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12 Jul 2019 18:59:09
Does any of the Ed's know if we are looking at dembele from Barcelona. With either a permanent transfer or a loan with the option to buy.

Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Try searching. Done to death.}

13 Jul 2019 02:42:54
Haha. Such a specific question. Are you in the middle of a bet or a table quiz or is there a game of Football Manager going on in the background or something?

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13 Jul 2019 11:14:59
As Ed02 always says, "RTFP".

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13 Jul 2019 11:55:53
Sorry ed002 just someone on Twitter has been adamant that we are loaning him with the option to buy. Just wanted to check nothing has changed in the situation from your Last update.

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{Ed002's Note - You should be asking on Twitter and not here then. I assume that Liverpool will then be loaning Salah with an option to buy?}

12 Jul 2019 14:45:56
Still hoping to do a Sharkopod Ed002, or are you struggling now for time?

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{Ed002's Note - I am struggling. I have just got off a five hour flight.}

12 Jul 2019 15:24:15
No worries Ed, I no your a busy unit. If you do get chance We would all appreciate it or any updated possibles. Safe onward travels Ed. Be safe.

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12 Jul 2019 15:24:15
No worries Ed, I no your a busy unit. If you do get chance We would all appreciate it or any updated possibles. Safe onward travels Ed. Be safe.

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12 Jul 2019 19:14:08
You do Some travelling you sir.

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12 Jul 2019 20:45:37
Some things are worth waiting for. Sharkopods are one of those things.

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14 Jul 2019 07:09:23
We don't mind a bit of airplane engine background noise to the Sharkopod, Ed002! ;)

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12 Jul 2019 12:07:11
Afternoon all.

Listening to Klopp after the Tranmere game last night it seems like we won't be buying too much this window, I think he will see just how good his youngsters are in the preseason games and then decide if we need to sign someone or not, of course if Clyne, Lalana or anyone else is sold then that might change things a bit but I personally don't think we are going to spend big at all unless a player that Klopp wants becomes available that is going to improve the 1st 11 and there aren't that many out there that would take a place away from of 1st choice starting 11! What do my fellow reds think about our transfer window so far and do u expect us to buy someone big I don't and I don't think it will be the end of the world if we don't . We have a great bunch of lads who would die for each other on the pitch there is great understanding and togetherness within that group and it has to be someone who will fit in with our traditions, work ethics and overstyle of play to be of any consideration. Times are good lads there's some bright young talent coming through maybe its time for those boys to shine and stake a place in the squad they all know what Liverpool FC is all about and if they are good enough well then there's no need to look else where and spend a packet! 😉

All the best fellow reds have a great weekend .

Notsozippy

YNWA.

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12 Jul 2019 12:58:42
Why is it okay for City to have 2 players for every position, but when We talk about a player it's "who's he replacing"?
🤔 Competition is great in my eyes.

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{Ed001's Note - City do not have 2 players for every position and are struggling to keep players happy that are on the fringes.}

12 Jul 2019 13:12:55
I said on here a few weeks ago Hoever should be right back cover and that Larouci was the most talented left back in the academy. We should let those two have at it. They won't improve on loan at Gent, Derby or Mouscron. Get them around the first team training with top players and covering injuries and cups. Robbo and Arnold will play most games anyway and Milner/ Gomez can cover in a crisis.

We don't need to spend big. I was keen on a versatile forward before seeing how much Brewster and Duncan have bulked up. The talent is there but I was worried whether they'd cope physically. That doesn't look like it will be an issue though. Maybe we should back the academy to supplement an already superb 15-20 senior players. Otherwise we'll end up losing Duncan and Brewster to teams like Dortmund who will back them!

I'd still like an attacking midfielder for the starting XI if possible but even that really hinges on how well Ox has recovered. If he's 100% fit come August, we are literally ready to fight on all fronts again without signing anyone.

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12 Jul 2019 13:29:14
This same topic is getting boring and boring.

Same points, same arguments, different posts.

It's extremely clear there are two different opinions on this, maybe it's time to give it a rest?

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12 Jul 2019 14:27:02
I stopped reading after the opening sentence.
And LiverpoolFC8 must just be working in the Russian troll factory.

Some of you need to learn to read before just letting those 'thoughts' that you seem to think are epiphanies dribble out of your ears onto the keyboard.

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12 Jul 2019 15:22:21
Very promising start by Duncan and Brewster to be sure but too early to anoint either the answer at the forward spots, let's see as the competition gets tougher if they still look like they belong.

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12 Jul 2019 16:05:00
Spot on Haizan.

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12 Jul 2019 19:10:51
It doesn't matter what anyone says or doesn't say, if you don't bring in at least one top draw fresh face then your on the back foot before a ball has been kicked. I'd of looked at the logistics of a deal for (de ligt) as an example, could of freed up Trent to play in midfield and put Joe Gomez at right back, probably silly money so we had no dealings with his agent but that's the type of scenario that can only improve your squad surely, I'm astounded that people think we can beat an even better man city team to the title with the same team that couldn't do it last season. How hard is that to grasp.

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12 Jul 2019 19:30:32
Play Gomez out of position to accommodate a younger centre half who isn't better than him (or even as good as Gomez dependant on opinion? ) .
All just so we can have one big money signing?
Now that's astounding.

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12 Jul 2019 19:30:53
How’s about improving the players that we already have Waro? It’s not that hard to figure out really is it.

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12 Jul 2019 19:36:53
I have to agree with you to a degree Waro, not only did city win the league but had the squad depth to win two domestic cups too.

Now I know they did have some pretty low key opposition during the knock out stages but still, they had the squad depth to do so.

We were very lucky with injuries last season and I still feel if Virgil gets injured we might not be so solid at the back. Back in the 80’s we always had two strong centre half’s, United did in the 90’s.

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12 Jul 2019 19:42:57
Waro, could you not argue that our best players players are young and improving, whilst City's spine is aging and deteriorating?

Alisson was in his first season and got better and better as it went on. Trent, Gomez, Robbo, Fabinho, Keita and Origi are all under 25. Salah, Firmino, Mane, Virgil, Wijnaldum and Henderson are all coming into that 28-32 prime years. Ox and Brewster are back from injury. To say we won't improve by simply consolidating is a bit harsh on Klopp as a coach, and also our players as individuals with a desire to learn and win more.

Meanwhile City have lost their captain and leader in Kompany. Silva, Fernandinho and Aguero are all struggling more and more with injury. Sane, Mahrez and Jesus are all being difficult over lack of game time. No doubt Sterling, Silva, Laporte, Mendy and Rodrygo are all stellar players who should continue to improve. But can they cope as the spine of the team wilts? Who can say for sure.

I think it is perfectly reasonable to assume City are on the edge of needing a overhaul and our squad is on the edge of hitting its prime. Having said that, I would like a world class attacking midfielder to replace Shaqiri and/ or Lallana. I'm not going to be that bothered if it doesn't happen either though.

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12 Jul 2019 20:00:26
My point of de ligt was purely as an example of how one class signing can dramatically enhance your squad, Gomez could rotate between CB and RB giving players the rest needed to stay fresh over a long season, extra long in our case with the extra games we have i. e. de ligt and vvd Gomez and de ligt Gomez and vvd moving Trent to midfield to rotate the midfield and allow them some rest Trent moving back to RB when Gomez is rotating at CB, all of those options on the back of one class signing is the point. I'll also reiterate what I said a while back, the greatest ever manager Sir Bob Paisley brought in at least two players a season on the back of winning leagues and European cups, that strategy used by the greatest ever manager is good enough for me.

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12 Jul 2019 20:42:49
Liverpool were getting better as the season went on. I don't see any reason why that should change just because we haven't spent 60/ 70 mil on players.

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12 Jul 2019 21:17:37
Waro I get your point. I don't necessarily agree but it's not an unreasonable argument. There is a strong argument that with KDB possibly fit all year City could be as good as they were the season before last when they hit 100 points. I'm just openly confident that our players are improving individually and as a unit at a more rapid rate. If Klopp decides he doesn't need or want to spend like he keeps implying, I'm not going to doubt him. He seems really confident in Brewster, Chamberlain and Gomez. He keeps describing them as like new signings. Time will tell I guess.

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12 Jul 2019 23:04:33
De Ligt is not even better than Gomez when both are fit so bringing him up is a false argument. Also we are not City and cannot donwhat they do. Ed02 has said repeatedly that City have mass issues keeping players happy who are not playing YET many on here still drone on about City having two players for each position Which they actually don't. They don't even have cover for RB. We are not City and will never be them so we will never do what they do so people need to get over that.

The fact of the matter is that cos Klopp did not say what many wanted to hear suddenly means that we are signing nobody this season, is just laughable. We all know Klopp doesn't say what we want to hear always, means nothing is being done. I mean, people did not know Fabinho was signing yet there he was. If you are thinking Klopp will tell you what you want to here then good luck with that. Just don't moan about the things he says that don't please you.

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13 Jul 2019 00:47:26
I still think we will get someone in like Firpo who can cover both LB and LW positions for Robbo and Mane. Klopp seems to trust his forward options with Origi getting a new contract and Brewster seen as a generational talent.

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13 Jul 2019 08:00:48
I do kinda agree with Waro here.

A full back to challenge both of ours - Firpo maybe? A and a versatile attacker who can challenge the front 3 and provide a no 10 option - Fekir or Pepe (albeit he’s less of no 10).

Then just youth like Sepp and Elliot and others is fine.

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13 Jul 2019 13:26:14
Redwolf, you're passing off your opinion on two players as fact to nullify my point, where are your facts to back up your sweeping assertion that Gomez is better than de ligt? I love Joe Gomez fantastic player but I couldn't say he's definitely better than de ligt, I hope he turns out to be and takes vvd's mantle when he's coming to the end of his career. You seem quite angry that the peasants are daring to question jurgens judgment, as humans everyone of us is fallible. If it's definitely down to the manager not wanting any players then that's fine and if it goes wrong it will be solely his mistake and will have nothing to do with FSG, that's if it is totally his decision.

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13 Jul 2019 17:26:50
Waro it's a bit hypocritical of you to see you are allowed to question Jurgen Klopp's judgement when yesterday you told me I couldn't question Steve Nicol's judgement. that's Klopp, the manager who's won league titles and Champions league in Europe, and Nicol who barely cut it in the US Soccer leagues.

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13 Jul 2019 22:14:45
I'm not questioning jurgens judgment at all, I was subtly questioning the owners.

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13 Jul 2019 21:47:13
Waro, the fact that you think Stevie Nicol's judgement is worth considering, is just bonckers BUT I digress. So to answer your question, who's angry about Klopp being questioned? You are aware that I have questioned Klopp several times and still do? As for De Ligt, I gave an opinion just as you have given yours.

I have seen him play and he is not that good cos he is being carried by VVD (even I would look good next to him) with the Dutch team and IMO, he is overrated cos he is never challenged in the Dutch League. He is as overrated as heck. The guy wants 400k a week reportedly. So he should now be earning double of what VVD is on? Rubbish. The guy is not good enough.

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12 Jul 2019 11:26:25
Good luck Crouchie on your retirement, one of the most underrated players in my opinion Absolutely hilarious though.

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12 Jul 2019 12:09:01
Well said fowlersgod.

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12 Jul 2019 16:10:14
Loved Crouchie, he seemed like a great guy. Loved his perfect hat trick against Arsenal? And Abbey Clancey is fit too 😍😛.

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12 Jul 2019 23:05:32
Always loved Crouchie. A true gentleman and will always be loved by Anfield.

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13 Jul 2019 01:33:45
Met Mr Crouch a couple of years back and he is an absolute gem and really funny lad . I am 5 foot 6 so standing next to him was funny enough . he certainly emphasised the situation by bringing me a chair to stand on.

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13 Jul 2019 06:30:17
When I think of Crouch I always think of the QA he did once.
When asked what would he be if he wasn't a footballer, he answered a Virgin.
Quality. Good Luck, Crouchy.

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{Ed025's Note - good stuff tyler..

13 Jul 2019 07:04:11
In 2007 they went go karting before Barcelona game in QF, crouchs brakes failed and with Alonso and kuyt infront of him he had to choose 1 to crash into, he said he picked kuyt to hit as Alonso was more important to the team, haha a proper funny bloke.

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13 Jul 2019 07:53:10
If you have not listened or watched his podcasts you are missing out, he is very good and gives amazing insights into life as a footballer. Love the one about him having to choose who to take out between Dirk and Xavi when his go kart brakes failed on him before the CL final. A great man on and more importantly off the pitch, all the best Crouch - YNWA.

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12 Jul 2019 10:34:51
Is it just me or do people actually want to break their tv/ laptop when watching Steve Nicol give his 'expert opinion' on our squad?
According to him, our defense is incomplete unless we sign De ligt, Origi is a money grabbing bench warmer blah blah blah.
Didn't we have the best defense in Europe last season? And Origi is everything but a money grabber.
No disrespect to the guy coz he is a LFC legend but what a godawful pundit! Absolutely shocking!

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12 Jul 2019 10:55:44
The trick is to separate the player from the pundit.
The trouble is there are too many of them and the majority of them feel they have to stay relevant by being controversial just to get a reaction from the viewier, which in this case has clearly worked, sadly IB nicol is far from the worst out there, now that is truly shocking.
Think of it more in terms of comedy value, I always find that helps.

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12 Jul 2019 11:20:58
KK7 is spot on, unfortunately good insight is rarely 'shared' on social media. But say something controversial/ stupid/ inappropriate or have a click bait headline and it spreads like wildfire.
So to say relevant you need to say something controversial/ stupid/ inappropriate which is why I like this site, posters airing their views and ed's providing updates that have no hidden motive, I'm looking at you sky!

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12 Jul 2019 11:38:18
Nicol is a moron. No way to sugar coat it. Leave him to it.

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12 Jul 2019 13:23:00
I always wonder if these pundits are coached into saying many of the things they say, with the intention of spicing things up and making things interesting for viewers. Seems that way very often, to me.

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12 Jul 2019 17:44:57
It was danny mills 2 years ago "liverpool are no longer a big club" we've been in both ucl finals since. Keep the motivation coming millsy!

All pundits are ex players now, and what they did in the game seems to be more important than how well they can talk about it. They're not generally the smartest bunch.

Nicol - brilliant player, true legend of lfc, but awful pundit. Of course Origi is going to think about his future at this, the most important contract he has signed. He just won us the champions league and faces the prospect of warming the bench. If i was in his place id be thinking (and hoping the club are serious about keeping me)

He does have a point about the defence i suppose. But i think we all want to see gomez cement his spot. I don't think there's much in it between de ligt and gomez. Not 70mil difference.

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12 Jul 2019 17:50:40
Nicol is a complete plank. Has not got a clue. No wonder he was the butt of jokes between Hansen, Dalglish and Souness.

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12 Jul 2019 19:13:36
He's forgotten more about football then you'll ever know, so I'd say his opinion holds more water than ( no offence meant here) a few no marks on this website. Calling him a moron is laughable.

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12 Jul 2019 23:09:10
Nicol is the one eyed king in the land of the blind with the land of the blind being the U. S. He coached there in the MLS so he gets a fair account of credibility from them. Having said that, the guy has not got a clue and when he talks about certain players like Origi, his complete contempt and bias for said player comes out in full force. Personally, couldn't be bothered about what he says cos he like the rest of his buddies on ESPN FC, are just too incompetent for their own good.

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13 Jul 2019 00:49:55
Nicol also gets off talking about De Ligt like he is already the best CB in the world. The guy would be fourth choice CB at LFC but most of the clueless pundits cannot even see that.

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13 Jul 2019 06:26:42
Nicol has a poor knowledge of the current game for sure. Any former players ye like as underrated pundits? Personally I think bellamy and jenas have a good understanding, Richie sadlier from Ireland too I think is excellent.

The likes of Henry Owen shearer never provide strong insight and only their playing career gets them the top jobs.

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12 Jul 2019
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Who knew Phil Coutinho was George Harrisons Dad? (thanks 2 looprevilliv & Annie's Anfield)

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12 Jul 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th July 2019

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12 Jul 2019 08:51:52
Koscielny you utter twonk. It seems that refusing to turn up for training is the new black, the player power has got out of hand.

For some reason Barcelona signing Louie Barry made me remember the bad old days when a load of people would kick and scream and cry every time another big club would sign a player and we 'missed out again' or when headlines like 'Liverpool gazumped by blah blah blah' for a player that often turned out to be pretty pants anyway. It's nice those days are behind us, although some people still probably think it's panic time if we don't spunk 100 mil on some name.

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12 Jul 2019 09:34:48
So Big Sam claims his own agent asked him if he fancied it and he said 'No' and didn't speak to Newcastle? Is it just me that thinks that is a bit of a non-story? The man is just a loon.

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12 Jul 2019 10:12:35
Jurgen, those days for us were only last year lol.

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12 Jul 2019 14:43:11
Faithinworks, they were? We spent oodles of dosh in 2018 and made some excellent signings. Who were people complaining about us missing out on? Mbappé?

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12 Jul 2019 17:46:44
Fekir
Dembele
Tchaikovsky.

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12 Jul 2019 05:22:22
Well come to think of it we don't actually need a signing at all.

We got keita and ox to cover midfield
Brewster shaq lallana for step overs on flanks
Origi for awkward celebrations when firmino ain't there
plenty of cbs with the best in the world.
One of the best gk.

And then plenty of youth.

Win the league and cl this season and then next year get mbappe and mustafi.

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12 Jul 2019 05:50:31
Baffling.

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12 Jul 2019 06:11:54
As far as I can remember, it has been almost every year the club will have marquee signings.

This window is strangely quiet, and I think maybe that's one of the reason lots of fans started to feel worried, some are whining.

I just hope whatever the decision is, I'll get to celebrate more and more wins, and trophies.

This is the first time I get the chance to brag to others. I tried when the club won the League Cup, but no one cares about it. Now I am enjoying the bragging, and I hope it lasts.

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12 Jul 2019 06:59:17
Seems like we are preparing for 5 years from now in that self sustaining model, Sepp van der Berg, Ki-Jana Hoever, Rhian Brewster, Bobby Duncan, Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot could all develop into the future first team. Would love LFC to get a few league 1 and 2 sides in the League and FA Cup early on so these young guns can be thrown in and I would hope that in league games that they could get 15 - 20 minutes by being 3-0 up. I still expect Pepe to be a LFC in this window.

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12 Jul 2019 07:23:48
Thought Hoever had a good half playing rb even good going forward. Plenty of potential in years to come.

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12 Jul 2019 07:30:40
It was all really sensible until mbappe and mustafi came along.

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12 Jul 2019 08:07:17
Akshit, you legend! At least, we'll have a defender that can keep Virgil on the bench to he steps up. 😋😋😋😋😋.

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12 Jul 2019 10:14:46
i just get the feeling that unless we are bankrolled by trillionaires and have sponsorship deals with that owners brother worth billions of dollars. I just can't see us being the kind of club to have depth like City etc. or even to bring in a player like Mbappe unless we were paying crazy salaries.

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12 Jul 2019 10:23:36
Your dreams need to be balanced guys. My yoga guru taught me.

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11 Jul 2019 22:46:50
Having watched tonights game Ed's do you think Lewis or Ki-Jana Hoever can provide the full back cover, or we still sign one?

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't watched it so can't answer that.}

12 Jul 2019 05:13:49
Thought both did ok but it was tranmere and that does not tell a lot.

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12 Jul 2019 06:24:33
Larouci had a good game as well. Hope to see more of them throughout pre-season.

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12 Jul 2019 07:01:51
Even though it was Tranmere the physicality of their player showed against some of our younger players, I felt that Hoever handled it best of all personally, really good prospect that kid is should be knocking on the door of having some bench time if Clyne moves on.

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12 Jul 2019 08:25:15
Sorry, Lewis is no where near ready.

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12 Jul 2019 08:40:20
Don’t think you can read too much into pre season games.

It’s just about getting fitness levels up.

Remember when Voronin looked a world beater in pre season?

Just don’t want bad injuries to anyone

Pre season is great chance for the Ox but think it might be after Christmas before he is back to his best.

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12 Jul 2019 09:38:43
The key is not to perform well in some games. and fading at the rest. they are still kids. let's let them develop at their own pace. klopp knows better than us anyway!

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12 Jul 2019 09:41:12
Hoever looks a player. Strong, quick, good on the ball. I could definitely see him filling in at right back.
On last night’s evidence I’d prefer Larouci to Lewis at left back.

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12 Jul 2019 09:46:55
Yeah Larouchi was great in the first half. Although he didn't have much to stop him, but promising none the less. Very young like Hoever but we do have options there.

This is why the Firpo rumours are so preposterous for example, if we sign fullback cover it'll be someone who can play both sides, won't break the bank and won't block the youngsters path, like Kenny Lala.

Do you think that signing is dependant on Clyne leaving?

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12 Jul 2019 11:35:35
Larouci had acres and acres of space to run into with the ball, so of course he looked good. He has undeniable potential, but needs development defensively. At present, Lewis is better, and I don't think even he is ready for the top flight.

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12 Jul 2019 17:52:06
I agree aray. Lewis looks stronger, he is bigger. But his final ball was pretty poor. He showed good hunger to win the ball back.

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Rivalries 1: PSG V Marseille

11 Jul 2019 19:27:11
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Rivalries 1: PSG V Marseille

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11 Jul 2019 22:36:59
Cheers Eds, need more articles in this the most boring transfer window ever. 😁.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome Idllk.}

12 Jul 2019 09:39:05
Nice read ed! can you do boca and river plate please?

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{Ed001's Note - added it to the list for you mate.}

 


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