Liverpool Banter 4

12 Mar 2026 22:23:42
Just read an interesting stat. We've only won one European home knockout game since Barcelona 2019.

12 Mar 2026 17:51:30
Seems Camavinga will be available this summer. Wonder if he could be the RM player talked about? I remember reports a few years ago saying Edwards wanted him and we do like to go back in for players previously looked at.

12 Mar 2026 19:45:27
Picks up a fair few injuries, doesn't he. Good player though.

12 Mar 2026 20:07:44
Plays for Real. They're all vermin.

12 Mar 2026 20:17:10
Injury prone, overrated, weapons-grade bellend. No thanks.

12 Mar 2026 20:45:12
You sometimes hold back, VV. Say what you think. You'll feel better for it.

12 Mar 2026 21:08:50
I'm with VV. Don't want anyone from RM.

12 Mar 2026 21:09:32
Weapons-grade bellend made me laugh. Don't ever change, Vik.

12 Mar 2026 22:11:22
I'm going to keep that one for my local if you don't mind, VV. Best descriptive phrase I've heard in donkeys.

13 Mar 2026 11:08:18
Please do explain, Vv...

I think Camavinga is a classy player.
Just needs a run of games under his belt.

13 Mar 2026 13:39:12
Can't get a run of games if you keep breaking down with injury; he misses too many games, and we have had too many sicknotes over the years. He is part of the toxic Madrid clique that saw Alonso getting booted out. On the pitch, I don't think he's all that.

He looks all over the place and is tactically indisciplined. Whoever ends up with that is getting Casemiro/Varane type dross. Madrid don't sell players at their best. They just cast off the sloppy seconds. He should go to United, they like over paying for ex Madrid dross.

14 Mar 2026 12:25:04
Jlc, I would take Camavinga in a heartbeat. Oh, and you can add Valverde to that, as well. Been a fan of both players for years.

12 Mar 2026 15:43:58
Would be interesting if we followed up on our interest in Juve's Pierre Kalulu (play CB and RB) with Juve showing an interest in Curtis and rumours that Curtis is looking for an out.

12 Mar 2026 16:25:08
The 2 times I watched Kalulu he looked absolutely terrible, a worse version of Kyle Walker. He can run fast and that's about it. I don't know if I watched him on his 2 worst games ever, but if they were a true reflection of his ability, then I would completely avoid him.

12 Mar 2026 17:27:54
Could probably say the same if you watched most of our players for 2 matches this season?

12 Mar 2026 18:29:30
Kyle Walker, you mean the England and Citeh RB who has won everything in the game.

12 Mar 2026 20:13:03
Kyle Walker is terrible. 🤝

12 Mar 2026 20:19:11
Kyle Walker is a knob head who uses prossies and flashes at random women in pubs.

12 Mar 2026 22:44:49
He has a really impressive cabinet though.

13 Mar 2026 04:36:44
Wonder if that's what he flashes then, StE?

13 Mar 2026 06:21:08
Christmas Day is always a busy old time for Kyle.

13 Mar 2026 10:34:58
You must be delulu if you think we'll buy Kalulu. I think id prefer Lulu.

14 Mar 2026 12:26:22
ArneSlotsBarber, finally someone said it. He's like Micky at Spurs.

Take away their pace, they are useless.

12 Mar 2026 15:25:05.
How difficult must it be to give everything as a Liverpool fan right now? It just feels so flat. Knowing the club supposedly have Xabi lined up, knowing the players probably know, Slot knows, and the entire world seems to know it.
Put yourself in that position as a player. You have to be professional and keep fighting for the club, but you can clearly see the effect something like that must be having.
It’s such a bizarre scenario. I honestly don’t understand what the club are waiting for when it feels like the decisions have already been made. It almost feels like the most pointless season — a waste of a season — yet there’s still so much technically to play for.
If Xabi is ready and Arne wants out anyway, surely it makes more sense to get things done sooner rather than later.


Then you think about players like Curtis. Imagine being Curtis and not getting any minutes on Tuesday. What must be going through his head? Probably thinking he’ll just wait and see what the next guy thinks.
It just feels like an absolute shambles at the moment.
This is basically a post about nothing really — just sitting here every day reading things, thinking about it all and wondering what a mess it feels like.
And if we are writing this season off, then at least get things in place early so it looks attractive for potential future signings. Otherwise, who the hell is going to want to come?
Anyway… what a croc.

12 Mar 2026 16:50:47
There has to be a valid reason why the owners haven't made the change just yet. I don't think they're that naive to what's going on, or to what the general feeling is around the majority of the fan base. It has to be something financial. Maybe they are waiting for the new tax year to start (April) before doing anything. What else could it be? Maybe Alonso is just not ready to arrive until the summer, and the higher-ups see no point in getting an interim in for only a few short months.

I would have binned Slot after losing to Plymouth in the FA Cup last year, but hey ho.

As for Jones, he may be wise to stick around until the new manager comes in and assess the situation then before looking to leave. Surely Alonso would appreciate having a local Scouse lad in the team, as they're as common as rocking horse s***.

The future's bright. The future's red.

12 Mar 2026 17:02:56
Firstly, we don't know if Slot is leaving or if Xabi is lined up. It's all conjecture, so if that is not the case then most of your post is based on incorrect assumptions. I'd just wait and see.

Secondly, why are we writing a season off? Because we haven't won the league? I hate to tell you this, but Liverpool have been in existence for 134 years and won the league 20 times. Does that mean that the other 114 seasons have been written off? (I know war time seasons don't count before anyone says).

I get the disappointment, I really do.

Having been champions last season, we were all hoping the new signings would help us go back to back, but for whatever reason it just hasn't been our season. It happens. It's happened 114 times before and it will happen many more times in the future.

We all expected a roller coaster after Jurgen left, and we massively exceeded expectations last season, but here is the roller coaster and I see way too many people turning green and wanting to get off. Just stay on until the end, it'll all be worth it.

12 Mar 2026 17:11:05
If Alonso doesn't win the quadruple in his first season, a lot of posters who think he is the second coming are going to be disappointed. Firstly, none of us know what approach has been made by the club. Secondly, none of us know if the club even wants him. All speculation at the minute.

12 Mar 2026 17:36:53
This is a ragebait post, right?

12 Mar 2026 17:37:01
Elliot, I don't think most supporters expect the quad every season, but we do expect a vision for how the team are trying to play, attacking football, and improvement when things don't go right, which have all been missing with Slot for at least the entirety of this season.

12 Mar 2026 17:52:48
I think people want to see a trajectory. It's difficult to see that when the results don't align with whatever development arc the team is on.

The easy thing is to 'only' blame the manager. The truth is closer to the manager having just a part to play.

12 Mar 2026 18:31:34
Elliot, Alonso's first job might be to get us back into the Champions League, then maybe the season after we can think about the quad, eh.

12 Mar 2026 19:18:40
How will it be worth it, Varry, if we win nothing and finish 6th in the league? Playing the moral high ground doesn't do anyone any favours.

12 Mar 2026 20:55:38
Oh, but whinging and moaning about everyone and everything helps in some way, does it, Frode? It's a bad season, we all expected better, but it's certainly not the first time nor will it be the last.

You're so short-sighted, mate, truly. When I said stay on until the end, I wasn't talking about the end of this season (in which we are still involved in 2 cup competitions btw, so giving up on it now is just a coward's attitude). I was talking about the end of the roller coaster as we build this new team to dominate domestically and in Europe. Klopp's rebuild was very up and down, and it took him 3 years to get to a point of consistency.

Slot is starting from a higher base (if it's Slot that oversees it), so I don't think it should take 3 years, but it's natural to have inconsistencies at the start of the process, especially given what happened in the summer.



We've lost some important players which has affected us, but we've signed some quality players who could be important for our future. They must be wondering what they've come into with all the bitching and moaning the fans are doing.

I'm not Slot's biggest fan right now, but 6 months ago we all thought he was the way forward. He's struggled this season, and maybe we do need a change, but whilst he's here let's just get behind him and the team, and try to help them do something this season.

12 Mar 2026 21:20:14
Barry I don't want a roller coaster lad I want a train. All pushing not riding it. If there was a plan or a way of playing ( don't blame injuries when the squad is not used) I'm sure most fans would be behind it.

But if me sitting on the couch at home can see what's needed but a coach on the sideline training ground can't .well. I also blame the runt who's playing top trumps ( Hughes) get him further away than slot from the club.

12 Mar 2026 23:09:03
It's pretty arrogant Scouse to assume that you, an armchair manager who's only claim to managerial experience is probably a league title on Football Manager, knows more than an actual manager who's won top tier titles in 2 of the worlds biggest leagues.

We all have our opinions and we are entitled to them but don't for one second believe that you know what's needed more than Arne Slot does. You really don't mate, if it was that easy we'd all be doing it.

12 Mar 2026 12:07:56
Bad couple of days in the Champions League, but I can see Us, City and Chelsea still going through. First goal panics both PSG and Real. Funnily enough I’m least confident of our chances, purely because Slot fills me with 0 confidence and appears to have the ability to completely nullify the ‘Anfield effect.’

Even if he has been given the backing, I think 99% of fans are expecting him to leave this summer.

If he doesn’t and the ‘form’ carries on, the fans will just make their voices heard and FSG will listen, they know the importance of the relationship with fans with this club is nothing like anywhere else.

12 Mar 2026 13:23:54
Slot: "Who can I blame next?"

12 Mar 2026 13:27:20
City are still in it, though only just - Madrid are simply not a great team, though they have 3 or 4 elite players. What on earth was Guardiola doing, by the way? Madrid scored three times in the only way they could - by breaking with a fast counter attack.

Their lineup was so bad, yet they trounced City in the end.
Chelsea are out. PSG are too aggressive and mean, and they score a lot in the CL. Chelsea really messed up, conceding those two late goals, as until then they'd done okay.

12 Mar 2026 13:51:09
I can't see PSG or Madrid throwing away 3 goal leads. It's not unheard of, obviously, we famously did it against Barca, but it's the kind of result that's one in a thousand and talked about years later.


Besides, I remember seeing us beat 3-0 and thinking we were desperately unlucky. We were a brilliant team back then. The same can't be said of Chelsea and City this year; they just don't look elite at the minute.

12 Mar 2026 14:26:34
So, hang on, Slot fills you with 0 confidence, but Rosenior gives you enough confidence to suggest Chelsea can overturn a 5-2 deficit against PSG?

I think there's something wrong with your maths there, mate.

I fully expect us to go through. I expect Arsenal to go through, although I hope they don't. Chelsea and City are out.

It's possible to come back from 3 goals down, but it's highly improbable, and Chelsea and City are both not good enough to do it.

Newcastle have a chance, but I'd expect Barca to be too much at the Nou Camp. Spurs, well, they are Spurs. They should never have been in the competition to start with.

12 Mar 2026 14:35:35
City are just about in it, but if Pep puts out "whatever the hell that was" re: line-up (Savinho? Really?), they will most defo be dumped out, for real.

@Mikey, I agree. We may have overturned that deficit vs Barca, but this City team wouldn't last 10 mis vs that Klopp team.



Arsenal? Of course, they are in it, and I picked them to go thru.

Chelsea? They're done. They ain't built for this.

LFC? 50/50 cos Anfield will do its job. The team? Not sure.

12 Mar 2026 16:49:33
Arsenal might go through. We might go through, although I think it'll be a draw. City, Chelsea, Newcastle & Spurs to go out.

12 Mar 2026 16:51:47
I think City still have a chance, whereas Chelsea have none. I expect PSG to beat them again.

12 Mar 2026 17:07:37
I expect Liverpool to be in the last eight.

12 Mar 2026 17:15:47
I don't want to be negative, but I have no confidence that we score 2 at Anfield without reply.

12 Mar 2026 11:56:44
Pathetic performance from back to front.

A bunch of players that are weak, mentally and physically.

Outfought on and off the ball. Shrinking out of challenges.

The flurry of chances we created in the first 5min are due to the high press forcing errors from Galatasaray.

Otherwise when we have the ball we created next to nothing. Why are we not able to create anything when they are not really parking the bus? Since the reason given for the poor performance this season is because the teams are using low blocks against us.

Why are we rolling the ball around at the back inviting the press, and once they get within 5 meters (not even pressing aggressively), we pass the ball back to the keeper, whom is absolutely hopeless with the ball at his feet. He will launch it long and we lose the ball. Every. Single. Time.

Why are we taking long goal kicks when the team is lined up for playing out from the back? The gap between the team is so big and we have no chance winning the 2nd ball (something I observed in the past few games as well).

Why are we getting so tight to their keeper during corners, when you know the ref will blow for a foul at the slightest of touches, resulting in about half our corners being a foul against us?

Mama - hopeless with the ball at his feet.



Gomez - got caught out a few times despite usually being reliable.

Konate - accident waiting to happen.
VVD - no leadership, allow game to peter out with the slow passing at back.

Kerkez - once on yellow he needs to curb his aggression. Always risk a second yellow as the ref in Europe can be card happy.

Grav - weak in challenges. The way he go for headers is a joke. Waiting the ball to drop instead of attacking it. Poor in long passes as well.

Mac - shld have scored from the chance that fell to him. Lost a step this season.

Szobo - slows the game too much at times. Needs to play with higher pace when we have the ball.

Salah - lost too many duels in this game. Totally ineffective as much as I like him.

Wirtz - lack of fitness due to some time out, but lost the ball way too easily on a number of occasions. Worked hard to win the ball back a few times too.

Ekitike - needs to be more clinical.

{Ed001's Note - did we force errors or did they just make errors?}

12 Mar 2026 12:07:15
I agree with pretty much everything you said.

I'm probably in no position to be laughing at other team's defenders after Tuesday night. But, after the meltdown on here over failing to sign Marc Guehi, I've just gotta mention that "disaster-class" last night. Rabbit in the headlights springs to mind. Awful.

12 Mar 2026 12:40:36
LiverpoolFC8, I only wanted Guehi as squad backup, as he's a utility defender and fills lots of gaps. But never a starter, that lad.

12 Mar 2026 13:05:58
Was never upset that we didn't sign Guehi. Squad player at best.

12 Mar 2026 14:37:56
Kaisuke, I didn't see any forced errors. How can we force errors when we either don't press or do a half press?

All I saw was them passing us the ball and us doing nothing with it.

12 Mar 2026 14:55:25
Gravenberch is physically a unit with his height and size. Mentally, he is weak. He pulls out of virtually every tackle, and he never looks like he is going to win a header.
I genuinely believe this is one of the weakest midfields I have seen playing for us.


A lot of us moaned about a lack of creativity when a combination of Hendo, Gini, Fabinho and Milner played, but, good God, how I take prime them now!

12 Mar 2026 21:22:41
They don't need to be prime to outplay this lot, Molby lad.

12 Mar 2026 07:56:32
I think it is safe to say the Premier League has been badly exposed as the mediocre, slow paced, boring, stat obsessed league that it is this week. The Champions League has really shown just how poor and lacking in quality this league is. Coupled with how overhyped and arrogant some of the managers are in their blatant disrespect of another European teams.

Liverpool. Usual slow, dull, boring, unenergetic, predictable tripe we have seen for 12 months. Will struggle at home to an enthusiastic Galatasaray team but may sneak through.

Newcastle. Playing the worst Barcelona team I've seen in 10 years or more, and it was an awful game. One which they should have won by 2 or 3 and now face going out in the away leg

Stoke City. Usual dull rubbish relying on set pieces, will scrape through but may well be shocked at home to Leverkusen.

Man City. Arrogant assumption that the greatest European dynasty to play the game would be easy pickings.

Got smashed, tie over.

Spurs. Ridiculous manager. Deserved to get smashed, tie over.

Chelsea. Having an IT consultant as manager isn't really working. Got smashed. Tie over.

In the 1/ 4 finals England may have 1 or 2 representatives from 6! Oddly enough, I think Liverpool may have the best chance of all of them of actually going through. I honestly see Stoke City being too cautious and getting beat. Newcastle away to Barcelona will only end one way even with Barcelona being poor. Best league in the world apparently. Load of tosh. It's been ruined by slow, dull, predictable, stat-driven crap football relying on managers who love a spreadsheet and set prices. This needs to be a wake up call to go back to high intensity full throttle football that had English teams threatening to be in the final year on year.

12 Mar 2026 09:36:04
Was funny when Leverkusen scored from a corner. They Stoke-d Stoke.

12 Mar 2026 09:53:41
Kimuraking.tdeh, the receipts are there, sadly, for the PL. The big teams are having a dreadful season in terms of playing style and standards, and, like you said, they have been exposed.

And to further demonstrate this, all you have to do is watch Bodo Glimt play football. Granted, I do not watch their CL games, but, when you watch the highlights, you have to marvel at the quality and build-up play for their goals and the way they have embarrassed the big teams like Atleti, Inter and, of course, City.



They just ripped Sporting a new one, and once again, the quality of the goals they scored were outstanding with pace, movement, one touch football. The PL is in a sad place, I agree.

12 Mar 2026 10:15:03
The big thing I noticed was that referees were actually doing their job and giving free kicks at set pieces for the grabbing, pushing and especially the contact with goalkeepers.

Take that threat away from most Premier League teams, and they are bang average, because they’ve concentrated on it for so long.

Arsenal had 2 shots on target, one of them a very fortunate penalty. They looked like they could play for a month and not score.

It’s a sad indictment of the Premier League that our apparent best team are basically cheating their way to a title, and the English referees are complicit in it. Sad times.

12 Mar 2026 10:16:27
The English sides were all poor. On paper I would say that Newcastle probably had the best result, but I don't give them much chance of winning the tie. I still think we will get through, but I only really expect Arsenal to join us in the next round.

I do wish that the PL would do more to help the teams, though. As we get deeper into the season, the English teams often begin to fade in Europe because the European leagues (in particular Spain) do everything in their power to help their teams be at their best in Europe with considerate scheduling of their domestic fixtures, but here in England the opposite happens, and the teams are forced to play when the TV channels can get the most value for money.

It also helps that no other league in Europe even comes close to the strength in depth that you get in the PL. Real or Barca could probably make 11 changes for more than half of their league games (PSG probably 90%) with no concerns about getting a positive result.

12 Mar 2026 10:25:08
I don't think it's as bad as u all say.

Each team isn't playing well for reasons like a new squad, a new manager, and multiple other factors.
And those other teams are quite settled.
Plus, harsher schedules.
None of those teams could handle the Prem and then go on to Europe.

12 Mar 2026 10:33:42
I think football is on its arse. Don't even want to watch it. I'm not even excited for us v the Mancs and City. Sad, I used to be on edge and looking forward for weeks.

12 Mar 2026 10:35:07
Think the Prem will have two representatives in the last 8. Arsenal and LFC.

12 Mar 2026 10:38:46
Our football is rubbish to watch probably the same to play in. The greatest manager the Premier League has had if you believe the hype has just had his pants pulled down by a team a poor Liverpool team beat Liverpool team were beaten by a team that are probably at spurs level which we are not the best league for football but we are the best for tenacity.

Systems work until sussed out then its back to the drawing board but there are only so many systems you can play and our football has run out of ideas. I would return to 442 after all most of the trophies have been won with this system European cups, league titles, fa cups, league cups over the many years.
The best team to watch in this seasons champions league is Bodo Glint they play football how it was meant to be played and i wish Liverpool took a leaf out of their play book Mr Slot.

12 Mar 2026 12:47:41
Imagine being that delusional to think a team that has turned us over fairly easily twice this season is going to capitulate in the second leg. They know we're second best all over the pitch. They know our midfield is non-existent, they know we lack any real pace, they know our defence can be got at and makes mistakes, and they also know our manager is absolutely clueless.

Can't even rely upon Anfield as a factor, because Slot has normalised losing at home.

12 Mar 2026 12:52:53
So, you no longer think that Liverpool will lose 5-2 then, as you stated on Saturday, Kim?
Why should anyone care for your opinion when it changes like the weather?

12 Mar 2026 13:15:03
imo the Premier League teams will still be there when the trophies are getting handed out.

12 Mar 2026 13:25:16
Albey, you can’t play like Bodo/Glimt in the Premier League and that’s the whole point.

As long as the referees allow the holding, pushing, grabbing and fouling goalkeepers at set pieces, then teams don’t have to take risks to score goals.

That leads to slow, defensive, stop/start games, because all teams are playing for clean sheets and set pieces. They want to use up the clock as much as possible to slow everything down, which then doesn’t give the opposition's better players as much time to create chances.

If you can waste 35 minutes of a 90 minute game when the opposition has most of the possession, you are basically denying them 10 to 20 attacks.

If you can then score from a set piece, then it’s job done and you just sit in and waste time for the rest of the game.

Even the team at the top of the table are doing it to the point where opposition managers are calling them out on it, so there’s little hope for the rest of the league.

12 Mar 2026 14:39:51
"The big thing I noticed was that referees were actually doing their job".

Excellent observation, Varry.

12 Mar 2026 15:09:27
Varry mate Bodo plays against teams that do all that you rightly highlighted mate but they still do not change the way they play they just play football the way it is supposed to be played and given what we are watching i would rather watch Bodo than most premier teams.

12 Mar 2026 23:15:40
I'm with you on that, Albey, but stick Bodo in the Premier League in its current guise, and they'd be relegated.

You get punished for playing decent football in the Premier League these days.

12 Mar 2026 04:32:51
Yes, it's only half time but teams from the farmers leagues were cooking this week.

12 Mar 2026 07:01:35
Kind of shows how unimportant the league phase really is.

12 Mar 2026 07:36:02
JLC

Prem teams faced:
Real Madrid
Barcelona
Atletico Madrid
Bayer Leverkusen

Despite current form, etc., they are elite European sides. Leverkusen may not have the pedigree of the others, but it is not like Arsenal were beaten, Newcastle too. We should focus on how much of a joke we are.

12 Mar 2026 09:55:26
Frode, I would take Leverkusen or Atleti away over Gala away all day long.

You're just looking for reasons to have a pop, mate. Gala have spent fortunes putting that team together for one reason. The Champions League. They have lost once at home in 40 odd games.

They are not the pushovers they used to be.

Even saying that, we created enough to win the game, but once again fluffed our lines in front of goal.

The good news for us is they don't travel well in Europe, so we should go through barring a disaster at home.

12 Mar 2026 09:55:29
@Frode, That may be correct, but a lot of PL fans call the leagues these teams play in "Farmers' Leagues", so I think that is the point JLC was making. I could be wrong, obviously.

12 Mar 2026 10:14:27
Spot on, Oli.

Not sure why some people are always on the lookout for having a pop at everyone else.

Given that 5 of the top 8 in the group stage were PL teams, and 4 of those lost in this last round, this is quite worrying, especially given the score lines.



Will City beat RM by 4, will Chelsea win by 4, or Spurs, for that matter? I'm not so sure.

12 Mar 2026 15:34:07
"Not sure why some people are always on the lookout for having a pop at everyone else.".

I have no idea, my friend.

12 Mar 2026 19:21:36
Would you, Varry? I wouldn't. They play with heart, but they are not a good side.

12 Mar 2026 01:45:22
Premier League clubs in the Champions League this week:
P6, W0, D2, L4, Scored 6, Conceded 16
Are we the farmers league?

12 Mar 2026 05:58:36
We are certainly the most boring league.
I personally hate watching Spanish football and have done for years. Diving, play acting, and lack of flow.
The Premier League is going exactly the same.
I put a large amount of the blame on the PGMOL and the referees for not clamping down on any of this.
They have lost control totally.

Allowing American football blocking tactics and Rugby tackling on free kicks and corners, but then giving free kicks for the slightest contact in open play.
Between all of this, and our own snail's pace football, with what seems like a no tackling policy, it is causing me to fall out of love with the game I have loved for 40 odd years.

12 Mar 2026 06:31:31
This is not good for Liverpool. We need more of the teams to win on return legs to get the points, so prem secures that 5th place qualification spot for Champs League. Without the 5th place being
open to us, I think we have a very slim chance of qualifying for Champs League.

12 Mar 2026 06:35:05
Standard of the Premier League is the lowest it's been in over 10 years.

12 Mar 2026 07:10:29
I think our coefficient will still be strong.
5 teams in the last 16.
I think 2 teams will get to the last 8: Arsenal and Liverpool.

Only Spain will be stronger in the CL.
A lot will depend on how far Arsenal and Liverpool get.
Newcastle could pull off an upset too.