Liverpool banter 2

07 Dec 2025 14:14:57
I have a feeling Salah will be dropped from the squad against Inter after his comments.

07 Dec 2025 13:47:17
Long live Salah. He’s led from the front again.

07 Dec 2025 15:09:20
Slot out before Salah.

07 Dec 2025 15:25:13
I hope so, Slotshair, as do most of the Reds who will be making their way to Italy, I reckon.

07 Dec 2025 15:53:42
It's sad because potentially Salah could have played his last game for us, his last match before he jets off to the ACON is Brighton then it's the January after that, in a perfect world he would go out on a high and not in some sort of controversy, There's not doubting what he's done for us but his form has been bad along with a few others, His comments are of someone resigned to leaving.

07 Dec 2025 14:14:38
So then, In the cold light of day, the performance was the usual, tactically slow and ponderous, 2 of the goals were pretty much down to mistakes by Leeds, the subs were as usual bizarre to say the least and as much as we scored 3 we look really tentative up top, let's not even go there with the defence, inept is an understatement.
And then just to add more dynamite to the Slot out debate our Mo decides to come out and pour fuel on the bonfire with his own take on what's been going on and how he feels, its utter madness.
Now as I type this there has been no official club announcement which personally I think is pretty unbelievable given the circumstances and nobody seems any the wiser as to whether the club are going act with regards to the poor recent management or the statement from Mo.
People will be divided by this turn of events but there are as many answers as questions in some ways, we now know there clearly is unrest in the dressing room and that its likely more than just Mo that is unhappy with a few things, we pretty much know by now that Slots way of football is not cutting it in the premier league and we also know that he isn't for changing anytime soon.


Personally I'm Slot out, I've seen enough to know I don't like the football for a start, Its slow and boring and reminds me of Rodgers last months in charge, I thought we'd moved away from all that, I also don't think he has the man management skills to sort this out, it seems to be getting worse and the last few results given the opposition have been dreadful.
This is not the title defence we expected given the huge signings we made and by the way we should be walking this league this season given the standard of it.
Currently, its a mess and somethings got to give and quick, I'm suggesting after Mo's statement it'll be sooner rather than later.
YNWA.

07 Dec 2025 14:08:23
What a mess.
Wouldn’t be surprised to see Slot and Salah go now.
As much as I love Mo, he can have no complaints about being benched for the last games. I get there’s multiple players playing awful and still playing but speaking out like that was the nuclear option.


Puts the club in a terrible position where if they sack Slot and keep Mo it looks like player power has won.

{Ed025's Note - it really would Mikey..

07 Dec 2025 14:33:47
It sounds like the real underlying issue is not the benching, but the way he's being engineered out for Saudi money. We do have history for that.

There are a lot of assumptions that Mo has Saudi on his career roadmap. We hear lots about the Saudi PL wanting him but do we actually know that he wants to eventually go there?

07 Dec 2025 12:42:05
Ed001 am I correct in saying that you were always weary of Hughes being appointed?

{Ed001's Note - yes, he was chosen because he is a friend of Edwards.}

07 Dec 2025 13:55:51
It's amazing Hughes and Edwards only getting focused in on now. The collapse had to happen before questions were asked about just how good/ bad a job they're doing.
I said when we had interest in frimpong it would be a waste of money. Fans moaned at me. a lot of money was not used wisely and effectively in the summer. Kerkez had an ok game yesterday but I didn't fancy him either but Hughes liked him. We needed 3 top centre backs. We bought a potentially very good kid. I have no time for the excuses on geuhi. There were plenty of options within a full summer transfer window.

Diaz sold and a winger not sought but "gakpo would be great for the star kid developing".
Sticking to Hughes and Edwards. The left side of the team was weakened this summer window and in Central defence we stuck by a terrible player who wanted to do the club over to get his way like trent.
Of course we could speak about the midfield issues aswell but apparently grav is a "worldly 6".
We need a manager that knows what this league demands and do more cleaning of the squad. Jones, gakpo, endo, macca, gomez should be sold for fees in the summer.

07 Dec 2025 13:56:55
I’ll be honest I was over the moon with the summer transfer window. We broke the British transfer record twice.

I have no idea what Edwards and Hughes do day to day with the club but I do know that they don’t pick the team or set the tactics and formation etc.

Not saying they are blameless but the manager takes the credit when it’s going well so has to carry the can when it’s not.

07 Dec 2025 14:18:38
They should just appoint you as director of football, Batman7, you clearly have much greater clarity of vision than the board does, just sell all the decent squad players that you don't fancy and replace them with world class options, easy peasy!

07 Dec 2025 14:32:02
Thank you Patrick. Ed025 would be my understudy. He'd have a muzzle on and just sign the papers for me.

{Ed025's Note - i would need new boots though Batman...because i would be doing a lot of arse kicking mate.. :)

07 Dec 2025 15:03:09
We had a great window, we had the best team last and impressed massively but Slots tactics have driven us backwards faster than Lando Norris can drive is F1 car. From February he stuck to his guns and we where awful before then the amount of times we where behind in games and he reverted back to Klopps tactics and relied on Salah magic to wins us games is uncountable.


For him to have the same amount of league titles as Klopp and more than Gerrard shows how luck can count for more than ability.

07 Dec 2025 13:39:39
I'd stick by slot until guehi and seymeno join in January which I expect.
The reality is We have two very poor centre backs. Calamity Jane Konate and Virg. Virg has made a lot of big errors aswell this season. Virg has to be sold this summer. You can't have a salah situation repeating next season.

No player deserves to continually play when they're rubbish or simply over the line.
A interim manager won't have the balls to drop and deal with salah. Let's be honest about salah too. He's been terrible since last march. An odd quality cross or penalty is worth 400k a week? No. Time to move on and wish him well.

07 Dec 2025 13:47:42
Salah was excellent against villa and Madrid, to be fair, he is still a top player. Not defending him for what he did, which I have said is totally reprehensible and ill advised, but he is far from over the hill as a player.

07 Dec 2025 13:58:07
Mate, this team shouldn't be carrying him defensively. His numbers are awful now. He's not scoring or assisting. He'll still show glimpses of great quaulty but a match is 90 minutes. It's time to say goodbye as a great singer would sing.

07 Dec 2025 14:01:14
It was always expected as soon as he was benched. Never thought he would do it directly instead of releasing from close sources.

He also said he will invite parents for the next game and enjoy even if he is not sure of playing.

Does it mean both - him and club have made up their minds? and if he has played his last game already.

07 Dec 2025 14:15:41
ItIt'fine to say Salah has been pants all season but don't forget slots tactics substitutions and set up have been the main problem. Need rid of him asap.

07 Dec 2025 14:21:48
What attacking player is quality for 90 minutes? And at the age of 33? Salah was very rarely quality for 90 minutes last year as well, hell he often went missing for most of the game before coming up with a goal or two or an ingenious assist, didn't stop him from having a historic season.

Certainly he has been off colour, but your criticisms don't feel very substantial to me.

07 Dec 2025 14:46:55
Batman we conceeded 3 yesterday and Salah wasn't on the pitch. He hasn't been good but ro suggest he is responsible for this form is nonsense.

07 Dec 2025 15:06:43
Bmena noone has blamed salah for the mess we are in except for salah. Going on about he's a scapegoat, playing a victim narrative because he's been benched. Konate was a large part of the collapse yesterday and he most likely will be sold.

Salah will be at Saudi either January or summer. This team will be moving on from underperformers and players who've seen their best days. Way of life.

07 Dec 2025 15:07:05
Just for the record. Salah is joint top goals and assists for Liverpool in the PL this season. Numbers aren’t great by his standard but neither is anyone else.

07 Dec 2025 12:30:26
On a side note if/ when Slot finally goes whoever comes in I’d like to Milner in the coaching team. Personally think he is what the squad needs right now. Only an opinion like to hear ed001 thoughts and other posters.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think he feels ready to hang up his boots yet, he is a very good professional though and a likeable guy to work with players. It could have some merit, if he wants to go into coaching.

Btw, for those talking about Gerrard, he has a full group of coaches he works with that he would want to bring with him, not sure how that would play out on an interim basis.}

07 Dec 2025 12:46:29
Not saying I want him to step in as interim, but surely if Liverpool call Stevie then all bets are off?

07 Dec 2025 12:56:17
My kids will retire before James Milner, and they haven't even started secondary school yet.

07 Dec 2025 13:15:20
I really can't see us bringing Gerrard in, but you never know I suppose.

07 Dec 2025 13:16:45
Love that Tristan mate.

07 Dec 2025 13:24:14
Hi from a friendly forest fan. 😁 Big ange needs a job . think he'd fit in well at Liverpool 🤣.

{Ed025's Note - i think Dyche might need one if he doesn,t buck his ideas up Jay..

07 Dec 2025 12:56:18
Hi eds1.
What do you think about Gerrards back room staff. Any good?

{Ed001's Note - I would not want them as the club staff for the long term.}

07 Dec 2025 14:17:04
Wouldn't want any of slots coaches staying tbh.

07 Dec 2025 14:16:13
Ed1, my concern with bringing Stevie in is that he does well and they decide to give him the job full time… thoughts?

{Ed001's Note - that would be a massive mistake, I believe.}

07 Dec 2025 12:33:29
How about we make Salah the new player manager?
Obviously he knows better than the manager and the coaching staff!
He will then never be dropped and can take all the corners, free kicks and penalties!
But seriously something has got to give.
I think there is a power struggle between the Head Coach and transfer committee.
The signing of new players hasn't aligned with Slot's idea of tactics.
The whole season has turned into a perfect storm of a disaster and everyone is to blame.

Transfer committee
Manager/ Coaching
Players Form dropping of a cliff.

07 Dec 2025 12:54:06
Whoever comes in I’ll be really interested to see who gets picked and the system they play given the lack of options in certain positions.

A interim would want free rein which could include not playing Isak, Wirtz and Kerkez on current form. Is Edwards or Hughes really going to sanction someone that undermines the buys they’ve made, I don’t think so.

07 Dec 2025 13:12:21
Can we really blame the transfer committee? They replaced Quansah, Trent, Diaz, Nunez and Jota with Leoni, Frimpong, Wirtz, Ekitike and Isak.

With the exception of Frimpong that’s an obvious improvement in every replaced player but it would’ve been impossible to find a right back who does what Trent did anyway.

They had Guehi done and in his medical when Palace pulled the plug. They can’t be blamed for that.

07 Dec 2025 13:16:31
Hugo - any other manager on the lists touted for a Slott replacement will find room to play those players mate -
Slott has just become ultra bloody negative and inflexible and can’t see any other system than the turgid one he wants play.

07 Dec 2025 13:50:03
I think everybody, myself included, was so happy with the signings we made during the transfer window.
I remember feeling at the time that it was a never ending array of talent arriving which would help keep us at the top for the next few years, although I did honestly feel that missing out on Guehl was a bit of a loss.

I had hoped then that maybe Leoni could step up and fill that hole and it would be a good opportunity for the lad. Unfortunately he got a terrible injury which ended his season.

I think with the way the season has unfolded has seemed so bad because of the players we added. I think most fans felt that we would kick on with the additions but we’ve regressed hugely in spite of them.

This has mostly been down to poor training and tactics, awful selections and the inability of the manager to see it’s not working and to change it.

07 Dec 2025 12:32:34
"I don't have to fight every day for my position because I earn it. I earned my position. "
Regardless of slot or anythingelse. Salah should be at a new club either January or most likely the summer.

I don't want a new manager to deal with that. He's not the same player, Saudi would love him and we get some money from it. Thank you and god bless. It's as simple as that.

07 Dec 2025 13:13:50
Exactly Batman, what he’s said there speaks volumes about him and his attitude. That is exactly the attitude we don’t want around the club right now.

07 Dec 2025 13:23:22
Salah has obviously never heard the phrase ‘you are only as good as your last game’. He’s been poor most of the year and needs to earn his position back.

07 Dec 2025 12:14:46
We'd been wondering what had happened to Salah. Why have his performances dropped away so badly, why did his form fall off a cliff at the beginning of April. Maybe he gave us the answer himself in his interview yesterday.

It is one of the original and fundamental principles of team sport. Selection is, and has to be, based on current capability and form. The moment a manager/ coach deviates from that, he's lost. Salah's comments yesterday imply (more than imply actually) that he feels he is above this; that somehow his previous achievements mean he is guaranteed a place in the team for as long as he wants it, regardless of whether he is still able to deliver on the pitch. I don't have a problem with an all time great being given a bit more latitude and slack when they're out of form, especially when it's a player who has a history of brief dips in form and has always come back firing, but there comes a point where you can't just carry on picking a player who isn't contributing.

The contract renewal extension made me cringe a bit at the time but even more so now. The king with his crown on sitting in his throne. I think Salah has elevated himself in his own mind to be bigger than the team and the club; and there is absolutely no room for that in my opinion.

07 Dec 2025 12:38:28
Or maybe he is upset that the other players, who arguably have been just as bad, if not worse than him, still get to play every game.

Maybe he just wants everyone to be beaten with the same stick?

07 Dec 2025 13:10:52
If everyone who has played badley was dropped, we wouldn't be able to field a starting Xi.

07 Dec 2025 13:32:40
This is all conjecture on my part and I have absolutely no insider knowledge of any kind. But I was wondering whether Salah was actually referring to his place in the squad when he mentioned his "position" instead of him playing week in week out. Most people take it to mean that he's unhappy being sat on the bench but I'm thinking that it's deeper than just that.

Like I said, this is all speculation but I think Slot and Salah has a falling out of some kind prior to the West Ham game and that led to Salah being benched instead of his poor performance. Maybe Salah, as a senior member of the squad and part of the leadership group, confronted Slot on the negative tactics that we have been playing and asked for a change to how we played at the beginning of last season but Slot refused. Maybe that's the "position" that Salah is referring to that he earned rather his position on the pitch as our RW. Just a thought though because I found the statement he made to be very strange.

Regardless, I don't think it was right of Salah to air all this out in public the way he did but then again, even Dom alluded that things aren't good in the dressing room too. This could be the push Edwards and Hughes need to move Slot on.

07 Dec 2025 12:00:06
What's peoples opinion of Flo Wirtz recent performances, I think he's done well in the last couple of games he's almost been our box to box midfielder up and down the middle despite being part of the 3 in front of a 2 behind a 1?

07 Dec 2025 12:24:05
He has been better but so far the signing has been a disaster.

07 Dec 2025 12:25:17
He’s been good. He can be better. Though, despite the flack that he’s gotten this season, I think him, szobo, and Chiesa are the outfield players who have seemed proud to wear the shirt. The rest are collecting checks.

07 Dec 2025 12:26:48
Sorry forgot Hugo.

07 Dec 2025 13:07:44
I don’t think we can level lack of effort at the likes of Connor, Kerkez or Robbo. They just don’t seem comfortable with the system, and a bit lost. Same with Wirtz. Szob has been the only standout player. Ekitike has been pretty good. Ali looks injured, but has been ok when he’s played. Jo has been ok.

I’d put Konate, Grav, Macca, VVD, Mo, Marm, Curtis and Gakpo into the must and could do better category. Actually with a few of them I’m not sure they can lift it.

The other one that’s disappointed more than others for me is Isak. I think it’s his style rather than anything, but he just walks around a lot. I want more from a centre forward regardless of who they are, and if it’s due more to injury recovery and fitness don’t play him. The first team isn’t the place to get fitness unless we’re winning games comfortably.

07 Dec 2025 13:44:05
Fair point Spritz. I think van dijk may be the one I’m most frustrated with. Instead of putting forth extra and taking matters into his own hands, he seems content with just whining at the team. Konate has been far from glorious but I think he’s taking a lot of flack due Van Dijks way.

07 Dec 2025 16:00:45
Bmena-red, as we have said, if the team is suffering playing in a wretched system that makes them look bad then, clearly that should affect Wirtz's performances, no?

Hence if the team has been a disaster then Wirtz's performances (even tho good to very good in patches) should be a microcosm of said collective tactical disaster, should it not?

07 Dec 2025 16:16:25
Isak seems to have a problem with running. A supreme lack of effort and urgency, he's definitely not a worker!

07 Dec 2025 11:38:05
This Salah interview after reading about how many hundreds of times he’s turned down post match interviews for me shows just how upset he is about the situation. The guy is human at then end of the day cares about the club and by all accounts is humble and passionate. The mood behind scenes I guess only the players and staff really know but seems poisonous. For me the sooner Slot is gone the better and give another manager the time to try and repair damage done and build for next season.

While no player is bigger than the club and our history shows that from keegan to Torres there isn’t many players today of Salahs quality. His form dip I’m sure is temporary and he needs our support. For me the whole squad needs a balance of back to basics but also the obvious affection Klopp had for them. The Jota tragedy has shook them and they are still overcoming grief but I just don’t get the family feel that Klopp had with the players with Slot. There is no passion.

{Ed025's Note - the interview was not about the club...it was about the Mars Bar..

07 Dec 2025 12:16:05
Work, Rest and Play, Ed? 😉.

{Ed025's Note - work, rest and be an unused substitute in this case CR.. :)

07 Dec 2025 12:22:19
That's the thing, Ed25. What people are not asking is that even though Salah should have prolly kept this in-house, what made Salah speak so bluntly as he did. Not only does he not give inerviews, the ones he gives are very measured and chooses his words. That seems to not be the case in this instant.

If he spoke like he did, that must mean that it is worse than whatever it could be imagined. Also pretty sure if we asked the Chiesa's, Endo's, Gomez's et al (those who Slot refuses to play/ start come hell or high water), will they have their gripes as well? Or even agree with Salah's outbursts symbolically, at least?

That's more my thing.

Now regardless of what Salah said or didn't say, Slot is going to go. That much is clear.

{Ed025's Note - if he had mentioned the team Oli and said that players were not happy then i could buy that mate, but it was all me me me me..

07 Dec 2025 12:41:17
I can never agree with his statement in full, because he specifically said that he doesn't have to earn his place in the team. That he'd already done it.

We cannot carry passengers at the moment and, unfortunately, that's all he has been since he signed his new contract in my opinion.

07 Dec 2025 13:40:02
He didn't say that he earned his place in the team though Fornax. He mentioned that he earned his "position" in it. It could possible mean his place in the team but it could also mean his status as a leader. Maybe he questioned and confronted Slot on his tactics and that led to the falling out, being benched, and "being thrown under the bus" comments.

Cos if it was for footballing reasons, Konate should have been the first one dropped from the team.

07 Dec 2025 14:08:51
Come on now, if he had mentioned that the team were not happy, some would have said that it wasn’t his place to say that. He’s not the team captain, not even the vice-captain, etc.

We all know that Slot has lost that dressing room. Even Dom’s interview a few days ago hinted at that. It’s just a matter of time before someone finally speaks out publicly.

{Ed025's Note - so was it his place to throw the manager under the bus?..

07 Dec 2025 15:11:26
If that comments counts as throwing him under the bus, then he must be standing pretty close to the road already. Everyone can see the dressing room isn’t happy. Saying it out loud doesn’t change anything, it just stops the pretending. That’s all.

07 Dec 2025 16:09:24
Exactly my point, @mfahmee2. Not sure why he would speak in public for the whole team as that is not his job? Salah feels he has to speak out cos he feels that he is being scapegoated by the manager for his (Slot's) failings and also, other senior players have been stinking up the joint yet, they don't get benched/ rotated. That is a good point to make cos many fans have said the exact same thingre/ Konate, Gakpo etc. for ex. Not saying I agree BUT just saying how he feels.

Ed25, you may not have likes how he said what he said BUT can we really argue about the substance of what he said overall esp. with amanager whose record this season is wretchedly pathetic? Again, jus my take.

{Ed025's Note - the thing is Oli the team was never mentioned mate...it was all about him and his plight..total egotism on a grand scale..

07 Dec 2025 11:33:26
Does anyone think that it’s possible Salah has fallen on his sword - for the benefit of the fans and club?

By going public it shows the world there’s turmoil inside our club, it shows Slot has lost the players, as probably the most senior pro with a name that has awesome stats has outed this.

I like to think this is the case, Mo has possibly sped up the process to resolution.

{Ed025's Note - at £400k a week....he has fallen on his feet Kew.. :)

07 Dec 2025 12:23:56
"By going public it shows the world there’s turmoil inside our club, it shows Slot has lost the players, as probably the most senior pro with a name that has awesome stats has outed this. "


In addition, are others who Slot has frozen out of the first 11 have the same feelings that Slaha has towards the manager? Intruiging, right?

07 Dec 2025 12:24:51
I think it is obvious that Salah's performances have dropped off the cliff. I don't know whether it's his age catching up with him, or the players have stopped trying to find him every time we attack. No point signing Isak and Ekitike, and looking for Salah continuously. Even the German manager said that Wirtz's struggles is down to Salah.

07 Dec 2025 12:30:37
Hilarious as always, Ed!

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate..