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26 Oct 2025 13:52:14
Regarding the managerial situation, the club are still willing to give Slot some more time to try and turn this around. But things must change quickly before a decision has to be made.
Klopp is not, and will not, be an option. We don’t want to take any steps backwards, nor does Klopp want to return to club management - as has been the reason why he has rejected a plethora of elite European clubs in the last 12 months.
If the club needs to make a mid season change, it’s quite likely we will see an interim in charge until we find someone we want for the long haul. Thankfully, like Carra said, there a handful of world class managers willing and ready to leave their posts if the opportunity arises.
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26 Oct 2025 14:04:39
Not that I watch any other league, other than Xabi and Enrique, both unlikely to leave - who are the other world class managers around?
Inside the PL it has to be Iraola if Slot can’t turn things around, which I really hope he can!
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26 Oct 2025 14:15:08
Interim, like who?
Please name these world class managers who are waiting patiently in line.
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26 Oct 2025 15:07:07
Van Bronckhorst? 😜.
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26 Oct 2025 15:13:38
I’d be interested in terms of the names of the elite managers, I think we are in the middle stages of a lot of very good managers turning into elite but very few are at that stage yet.
In the league Glasner and Iraola look like they are on their way to being very good coaches maybe on their way to joining that elite group in the next stage of their careers. Then abroad you probably have Enrique from PSG, Alonso looks ok but still interested to see how he gets on at Madrid.
Slot needs to find a way to adapt and overcome or he could be out on his ear by Christmas. Any manager would be looking at that team we have and kicking their lips.
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26 Oct 2025 15:57:07
@KingKen77. Pretty difficult that. 'Kicking their lips! '
sorry just trying to lighten the mood.
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26 Oct 2025 16:04:35
Guardiola will be available soon.
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26 Oct 2025 16:19:45
Haha certainly mate, and definitely needed atm.
Very frustrating to watch the reds atm so need all the light hearted banter we can get.
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26 Oct 2025 16:49:50
Just for ghits and siggles .
Gerrard as interim?! 😁
Let's put that grenade in the room.
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26 Oct 2025 17:12:08
Both Ireola and Glasners contracts are up in summer so a stop gap might work if either of them were in frame.
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26 Oct 2025 17:25:32
Wouldn’t want Gerrard anywhere near the job. He’d be as bad as Hodgson.
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26 Oct 2025 17:31:55
I don't easily see a world where this club sacks Slot to bring an interim in until Iraola is ready - what would it achieve?
Slot has earnt a poor season after the last, especially as the purchases were not all of his own choosing.
On the flip side, whining about long balls, low blocks and throwing some players under the bus is amatuer leadership and if he can't find a way to win with those players, however ugly it may be, maybe he simply just isn't as great as everyone says he was, after all, a couple of seasons in a farmers league means very little on the big stage.
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26 Oct 2025 17:51:21
Dr Banana, if we were learning something from the defeats and signs of improvement were visible it would be easier to argue against sacking, but as things stand there’s absolutely no sign that’s happening. If the same performance and tactical set up happens against Villa, then Slot will have hoist himself on his own petard.
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26 Oct 2025 17:54:59
I think it'd be a mistake bringing in Glasner or Ireola just because they've done well with their current clubs. A Club the size of Liverpool needs a well respected, world class manager who superstar players look up to and will run their socks off for, someone with a strong character and good man management.
We'll become a revolving door for 'up and coming' managers if we go down that route and Slot could be the start of it.
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26 Oct 2025 18:05:29
I’d quite like nagelsmann. I think he’d be up for the job and bring order to the team and platform wirtz. I actually think a managerial change could do the club some good. A new manager would be able to drop senior figures who have been underperforming and see things afresh. I’m losing faith in the way slot is constantly chopping and changing and putting out different panicked lineups every week.
He made big mistakes in the summer instructing the recruiters to buy attacking fullbacks when we had zero defensive minded midfielders and the balance is completely off. I’m worried about signing Wharton too as that’s just another midfielder with no legs who makes risky passes. We have enough tracking talent, we need guys that can carry the piano.
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26 Oct 2025 18:23:28
Of all the managers in world football right now, I would take Diego Simeone. We don't need or want some boring tactical analyst, we need emotion, we need passion and intensity, basically we need someone that will scream when a player gives 99% because it's not good enough for our club.
As we are seeing recently, it doesn't matter how talented your players are. If you don't care, you don't succeed. I think Slot can be a great manager and has already succeeded with us, but is he the type of character that can turn something like this around? I have my doubts.
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26 Oct 2025 18:24:54
I’d want a manager with premier league experience, this league is fairly unique.
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26 Oct 2025 18:37:07
imagine the scenario, that a former premier league winning manager was to become available and was not going to cost anything in compensation. and then imagine that he knew the players and the club etc. Sounds like we would be all over him!
Take a breath people! We have a winner at the helm. I would give him the rest of this season and I would take a couple of cup runs and still bask in the glory of the 24/ 25 Premier League. Perhaps if we had not won the league then there might be cause for concern. Add in the fact that the squad has been completely overhauled. He got rid of most players that everyone here wanted out and brought in top TOP players and lost Jota!
We are Liverpool. We enjoy success and never stop supporting the club!
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26 Oct 2025 18:51:58
who are considered "world class managers" who would leave their current situation for Liverpool? Enrique? Guardiola? Ancelotti? Can't see any of them leaving their current situations for us. I know there are other "world class managers", curious who you all think Carra and VG could be talking about.
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26 Oct 2025 19:01:47
If you think of where we’ve spent our money, and who those players may respond to then someone high profile with success from Germany may be safest route.
Aside from that I’d agree the league is uniquely demanding and competitive so a tried and tested premier winner would be nice. Problem is only a few winners other than Slot in the last decade, and they’re not coming to us much as we may like the idea.
That leaves us with former players who get the club but unproven managerial wise, wild card no links but high profile like Ancelloti, or higher risk young coach like Iraola.
Only a big name winner would appease the fans and take heat off Hughes and co.
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26 Oct 2025 19:02:14
Amorim, Ten Haag, Solskjaer - there are heaps of them out there ….
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26 Oct 2025 19:05:36
I would never want Diego Simeone that football would be so poor to watch.
I would take Gerrard till the summer if we could get Iraola in the summer.
Don’t knock Gerrard I think he knows his limits so then it’s just getting the right staff around him. Dalglish did that he used Paisley when he came manger.
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26 Oct 2025 19:06:24
How many losses is enough? Playing like this I reckon we lose 6 of our next 8 fixtures easily
Get rid of him. He’s refusing to change, so change it for Him.
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26 Oct 2025 19:31:10
Can’t believe we are talking about jettisoning a manager who won the league six months ago, what has happened to this club and their fans?
LFC had a horrible season after losing the league on the last day and a CL final, but were in the hunt until the last few games of the following season and won the league the year after. City didn’t pull the trigger last season on Pep even though they flopped, Arsenal didn’t sack Arteta even though they probably should have done better the last couple of seasons, are we now MU?
We bought in practically a whole new team in the last two seasons, last season, even the owners must have been surprised we won the league. Everyone needs to calm down, there are problems, no doubt about that, the new players are not squad players, they were all bought to start in the first team straight away because they needed to.
Let’s not forget Fabinho and Robbo spent 6 months in the reserves before they became established starters, we didn’t have that luxury with Frimpong/ Wirtz/ Eliteke/ Isak. It’s a whole new team bar Ali/ VVD/ Salah/ Robbo since the last great team. Mac’s injury, Jota’s passing, TAA/ Luiz’s leaving, Salah’s age along with so many incomings mean this was always going to be a challenging season. But the new players are quality, and young, with a better CB in January and a few tweaks, this team, manager included has the potential to be great. LFC is not a club to make rash decisions, it is to well run. So chill out, consider this the transition year we expected last year, and wait for the team to as Skankly said, go off like a great bloody bomb in the sky.
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26 Oct 2025 20:54:53
Absolutely agree with your first paragraph @D-day. Society has changed since the arrival of computers and social media. Short term, instant gratification is the order of the day now.
Football has also undergone a massive “evolution” for want of a better word and is now a business and not a game anymore and, at the elite level is a PR flagship for dodgy conglomerates and thinly veiled state business and political leverage.
Since we picked up the title we have won 8 of our 14 competitive matches so it makes sense to show the manager the door. Ironic that we wanted new players and the club spent a record amount (for almost everybody) 3 months ago. Like I say, we don’t like the new toys so we throw everything out and demand the ‘next big thing’.
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26 Oct 2025 22:03:21
interim sounds like a frikken disaster.
crucial time for the club.
I hope we hold our nerve
A move like appointing an interim after splashing half a billion dollars, to then bring a new manager in next summer sounds like a decade of mediocrity and uncertainty is on the way.
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27 Oct 2025 00:38:16
Four straight league defeats with no signs of improvement in any of them. How many defeats are palatable before it becomes an issue? This isn’t going to improve anytime soon and to think otherwise is delusional as nothing is going to change.
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27 Oct 2025 03:28:25
Defeats are never palatable, and four in a row will be an issue for any club, particularly one with aspirations of winning the league. But you don’t through the baby out with the bath water.
Of course it can change, maybe we won’t win the league, at the start of last season you would have been called delusional if you said LFC would win the league, but they did, because they played well under Slot and MC/ Arsenal had some very unpalatable defeats, did they sack their managers?
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27 Oct 2025 03:41:07
Is Frikken available though?
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27 Oct 2025 04:30:26
The suggestion of simeone is quite frankly ridiculous lol, I don't even know where to start with that one.
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27 Oct 2025 04:40:17
All these seers and prophets decreeing nothing is going to change. You should all be managers, no financial advisers.
Put your skills to better use.
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27 Oct 2025 06:20:49
Simeone would be a disaster. We diss Arteta for being "simeone-lite" then we suggest that we go and get the original instead. He's also, I believe, the highest paid manager in football right now so I doubt he'd want to live a cushy job where he doesn't need to win anything to one where he is under pressure to win.
Iraola would be my top choice but I wouldn't say no to Flick or Enrique too. Not sure if they'd be willing to join us but they are all good managers who I think would make full use of our very good squad.
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27 Oct 2025 07:44:34
StEtienne it’s fair and reasonable to say that nothing is going change for a number of reasons, there’s no sign that any lessons are being learnt, we’re still going out with the same set up which is a gift for our opponents, we’re still making the same mistakes, we’re still giving opponents soft goals, we’re weak in midfield, sloppy in defence and barely registering shot on target let alone scoring.
There been absolutely no improvement of any kind in any of the matches in defence or midfield. Disregarding the league cup game against palace, can you honestly see us winning, or even just not losing, any of the games against Villa, Madrid or City? Because the evidence doesn’t suggest we will and you’d delusional to think otherwise.
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27 Oct 2025 08:49:55
I can see us winning everyone of those matches, whether we will is a different matter.
Regarding the defence, 3 of the 5 are new, Ali is injured and our 2 CBs are in bad form, who would you pick in their stead mastermind? Bar Robbo, who was showing clear signs of degradation last season, and whom everyone was calling for a replacement, I don’t see who else can be picked.
Injuries to Mac and Grav have not helped, who would you pick in midfield, Endo?
Salah is clearly out of form, deserves to be dropped, then he shows a moment of magic and you remember why it is he is being picked. I really like Chiesa, but is he capable of doing it for a full match? Or is he better coming on late? From what I’ve seen, it’s the latter. Then we have Isak, the saga of the summer and now injured, would you leave him and Wirtz on the bench? The owners would surely be asking why you would do that.
I’ve seen loons asking why Slot brought off Wirtz and brought on Gomez when we needed a goal against BFC, how is this possible? The workings of a mad manager. Of course they didn’t acknowledge that by doing that it released Dom from the defence and allowed him to set up Mo for the goal. Terrible manager decision I tells ya.
If you replace Slot, no doubt you know best who with, the new manager is going to have the same problem getting this team of fantastic individuals to be a fantastic team. After a year and a bit of trying, if we are not top of the league, will you be calling for his head?
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27 Oct 2025 08:53:05
To be fair Vik, none of those teams are sit back and counter, super physical and set piece reliant teams. We do much better against teams that have the ball on the floor. Villa also have a lack of pace and width, they might have beaten City with a sit back and counter approach but they are not especially good at that.
I fear Palace much much more than I do the three teams you named, though of course it has to be remembered that Mbappe and Haaland are in frightening form at the moment.
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27 Oct 2025 09:12:34
We won last year, so that means we can be absolutely rubbish this year does it? Not a chance, the results, tactics and effort just aren't there, so things have to change.
Things have continued to drop since about February, we have gone from 1st to 7th in no time. And with the games coming up, I unfortunately see us dropping further. Things need to change NOW and telling people to just chill out is laughable.
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27 Oct 2025 08:57:59
Say we play the next 4 games and come out with nothing what’s people’s thoughts then on Slot as manager?
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27 Oct 2025 11:11:46
@PB, to be honest I think Gerard would be more ridiculous than Simeone.
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27 Oct 2025 11:21:34
Out of interest @Thingofbeauty, were you one of the people calling for Klopp to be sacked during the 22/ 23 season when the team/ results fell off a cliff and things seemed to be getting worse rather than better? Or did you think, no, there are reasons for this, principly the brilliant midfielders we relied on for a couple of seasons had run their course?
I suspect you might be in the former.
Adjust your focus out a bit and look at what happened this summer, the team is changing, not one player, practically half the first team, and the way they play. Who do you think is going to come in and sort the team, and why are you so sure he can do it more effectively?
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27 Oct 2025 12:03:27
I can't believe we are discussing that Slot should go. I agree with a lot of what you have said D-day (although you make some valid points VV) .
My own predictions before the start of the season were that Man Utd would get top 4 and the most likely team they would push out are Chelsea or (hopefully not) Liverpool. My other thought was that if we are lucky enough to still be in a cup towards the end of the season that we would stand a good chance of going on to win it.
The number of new starters, along with the people we have lost, it was always going to be difficult. When we were lucky in winning the first 5 matches I thought it looked more likely we would maintain top 4. We've been a bit unlucky to have lost the next 4 so it's back in the balance.
But to be discussing getting rid of the manager! I honestly thought we were better than that.
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27 Oct 2025 13:24:53
There is a good argument in cases for both retaining or dismissing Slot.
On one hand we have a manager who won us the league last season who everyone was lauding for doing a great job, who several times last season made mid game tactical changes to get us victories.
On the other hand we are looking at very poor performances since February and we have been very fortunate to get the wins we have this season and in some games Ali saved us from worse. Things are not getting much better and we seem to be playing with no identity and players look lost on what exactly they are supposed to be doing.
If anyone can say exactly what our tactics are then I’d like to hear. Slow passing around the back and then complaining about a low block….
Losing 4 league games in a row would be something that you’d expect from a side at bottom of table not something you’d expect from title challengers/ winners.
Hopefully for us and him slot turns this around but anyone who isn’t questioning him must be watching different games to me over past 6 months of football.
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27 Oct 2025 13:54:48
Interim, like who?
Big Ron.
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{Ed025's Note - well Dyche has been snapped up now.. :)
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27 Oct 2025 14:19:22
D Day, I get what you are saying ref bringing on Gomez so Dom is can move from right back and go back to midfield,
well I have mentioned it be4, its crazy to even put Dom at full back, for two reasons, one, he is keeping this team together mostly by himself, two, Bradley is either injured or fails to play the 90 minute's,
Slot take more notes,
Bring in a solid right back who will stay and hold his position, so Kerkev can bomb up and down the left side, isn't that why we brought him in, that one transfer would solve a whole lot of problems,
Also pay whatever it takes to bring Guehi in, he would steady the back line,
Bring in a combative midfielder who will fight for liverpool,
Slot, do something positive, you are losing fans, we definitely don't want you losing the dressing room.
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27 Oct 2025 15:51:40
Can't get myself away from the plan was 3CBs (VVD, Guehi and Konate) Frimpong and Kerkez as Wingbacks with a Double Pivot in the middle Wirtz behind a front 2 of (Perm any 2 of Isak/ Salah/ Ekitike/ Gakpo) that change in style would have meant that we wouldn't have had wide forwards having to track back (which in the current setup they don't) and the defensive frailties of the Wingbacks wouldn't be as badly exposed as they are in a back 4. I think it's the plan that Wirtz was sold by Spot, allows him play to his strengths, and Salah and Gakpo (if playing alongside Ekitike or Isak) playing narrower wouldn't make us so predictable going forward, the inverted wingers we have don't have the skillsets to mix things up (both being overly one footed)
Our biggest issues at the moment are the forwards aren't the pressing type leading the midfield and fullbacks massively exposed.
As fun as the links to Semenyo are, we need 1 if not 2 CBs in Jan, similar to how we needed 2 in Jan 2021, but for different reasons, we haven't got the players to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.
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27 Oct 2025 16:11:01
This is exactly what I thought was going to happen.
When we signed Fringpom and Kerkez I thought we are definitely going to go with wingbacks and play Wirtz as a 10 Behind two narrower forwards.
Obviously missing out on Guehi and Leoni's injuries have changed things.
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27 Oct 2025 16:37:00
I think I’m backing Carra with this one, ‘more time’ basically means not Sacking him today.
Klopp was never going to come back so that’s a pointless argument by folks.
Interim manager would be the most sensible option, Zidane? He can take the French job after the World Cup too then.
Can’t see slot making Christmas at this rate. People will argue ‘FSG don’t do things impulsively’, nor do they spend a fortune and not expect some sort of return on their investment!
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27 Oct 2025 19:40:29
They got a massive return when LFC won the league in Slot’s first season, you now think they want to admit they made a mistake in appointing Arne Slot? Give me a break.
FSG are seasoned sports owners who bought into the moneyball philosophy, they know far more about owning giant clubs than any of the rest of us. I can only guess that having pulled this club out of the gutter and restored it to top tier of domestic and European football, they would only sack the manager if they were certain that another manager could do better, and is available, if you know who that is, enlighten us.
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27 Oct 2025 20:10:17
D-day, OP said as did Carra that many top level managers would be interested. As for doing better, Slot has 26 out of the last 51 points. 6 league defeats in the last 13 games. Add in CL and CS that's 8 in 15.
As for the team changing a lot of players, the team that lost to man u and also to Chelsea, we had only 2 new outfield players in. Not exactly a lot of changes. I would argue average or even less than average compared to other teams. Arsenal fielded 3 new players in both their wins at Fulham and at home to Palace this last weekend.
We added players that have improved the squad. Klopp never had such luxuries unfortunately for him. This is 100% on the coach and his staff.
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27 Oct 2025 23:39:49
You left out the Carabao Cup win, Red_Flyer69.
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25 Oct 2025 23:06:36
Hello all,
I understand it's fragile times but I will stick by what I said.
Slot will not be the manager of LFC next season.
Van Dijk led a charge behind the scenes to get PMA injected into this team, Slot wasn't present.
Worrying times,
So, on the flip we would have a long queue of world class managers waiting in the wings, willingly prepared to leave current posts.
Ta.
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25 Oct 2025 23:18:18
Thanks carra.
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25 Oct 2025 23:20:14
Thanks Carra. Do you think he’ll last the whole season and we’ll only change then? It’s not looking good on the pitch.
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25 Oct 2025 23:23:48
So you don’t see a possibility of slot turning it round carra?
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25 Oct 2025 23:27:01
Issue has been since the PSG game we have been very poor, seems to me Slot became fascinated by the PSG setup and tried to replicate.
We have had massive investment and he has gotten players most other managers would dream of and it’s been incredibly poor to start.
Interested to see who we would possibly get in if it was to happen.
Iraola, Glasner, Enrique?
I also wonder if there is a possibility of Alonso, rumours from Spain if they lose heavily to Barcelona he will get the boot.
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25 Oct 2025 23:29:30
Will he be the manager in January?
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25 Oct 2025 23:30:20
Thanks, Carra.
Absolutely gutted about that performance tonight. Looked like a group of players who didn’t want to be there.
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25 Oct 2025 23:31:20
I have no idea who these world class coaches waiting in a queue might be. Very concerned.
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25 Oct 2025 23:37:24
Thanks Carra do you think they will give him till the end of the season things are getting ugly.
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25 Oct 2025 23:40:21
Ed1, you think Slot have enough credit in him to survive whatever this is? If this continue, we will be out of title race even before the christmas period. I seriously don't understand how we manage to strengthen the team massively during the transfer window but also manage to make the team look weak and lost.
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{Ed001's Note - only if he turns it around fairly quickly.}
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25 Oct 2025 23:42:45
Thanks Carra, it's not looking good. I think slot will be fired.
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25 Oct 2025 23:46:09
Who do you think will get the managers job Carra? Thanks for all your info 👍.
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25 Oct 2025 23:46:43
Thanks Carra your putting your neck out there and i for one appreciate your views and opinions. I don't think slot will be the manager come christmas if things continue. We have the squad but we seem ton have completely lost our identity, I'm not sure what's happened between last season and this but it appears Slot is really losing the players fast i just hope we don't become the new chelsea and sack managers left right and center.
Slot seems ton have also lost the fans which is never good, klopp had a similar run in his second last season but fans forget that yet pray for him to come back, i like slot but something seems off.
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25 Oct 2025 23:47:44
Cheers Carra. Do we know who we could end up going for? Any chance we may be approaching klopp again?
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25 Oct 2025 23:51:41
Crazy to think Slot has lost the dressing room but based on what we are seeing he has no clue.
The amount of chances we give away trying to play intricate passes in the middle of the park and getting broken on. It’s all well and good Wirtz being able to play one touch passes in tight spaces but if his team mates can’t he needs to stop putting them under pressure.
Kerkez has lost all confidence and doesn’t help Virgil barking at him all game while playing poorly himself.
Wirtz way too light weight atm. Salah a shambles. Only player to emerge with credit today was Jones.
Something drastic needs to change and if that’s the manager so be it. We can have a bad season but must make top 4.
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25 Oct 2025 23:53:00
Jurgen back after his recent comments?
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25 Oct 2025 23:54:01
A long queue of world-class managers doesn't exist in the world full stop. The only ones I would take are Xabi, Luis Enrique and Flick and none of them are going to happen. People need to be really careful what they wish for.
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25 Oct 2025 23:57:34
Forgive me, but what does a “PMA injection” mean?
Thanks for the update Carra.
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25 Oct 2025 23:57:51
Lost the dressing room? I work in Sales, I'm a top performer. Even a scent or whiff that my manager is taking overdue credit for my performance or the team performance, I want them gone.
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26 Oct 2025 00:04:03
What's the meaning of PMA
And why? Is it because of locker room problems or disappointment from tactics?
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26 Oct 2025 00:17:16
Iraola please.
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26 Oct 2025 00:18:21
Appreciate the info Carra and don't doubt you sir. This is only my own personal opinion on the matter.
I really really like Slot. The amount of work and sacrifice he put in last year was incredible. He is living away from his family for crikes sakes. He will figure it out but he has no chance if the players got their panties in a bunch.
What are the players cribbing about. They would want to look at their own performances . Slot has to choose between many poor performers right now and some might be performing marginally better than the ones he is picking but it's slim pickings with those on their game at the moment.
I hope Slot turns it around and comes out stronger for it.
Not sure what world class managers are out there anyway. Is Enrique going to leave PSG? If not, Id rather stick with Slot.
I hope Slot comes through and the players start coming through for him.
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26 Oct 2025 00:41:19
Who/ what is PMA? Ta Carra.
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26 Oct 2025 01:09:51
Thanks for the info Carra, as always its much appreciated. If Virgil though has led the charge for PMA then he needs to show it on the pitch, he's been a mere shell of himself in the last 6 weeks so imo its not all on the manager but ultimately the buck stops with him.
I just can't get my head around how poor we've been, there's something seriously wrong. I hope Slot can fix it but im running out of confidence now. I really don't know how we are in this situation. I've said a lot this evening on here but ultimately I'm lost for words.
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26 Oct 2025 01:18:24
Does not surprise me in the slightest. The only shock for me, is he’s still here.
Unwilling to change, Ultimately will be sacked.
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26 Oct 2025 01:23:20
Thanks Carra.
But, I was wondering, what is PMA?
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26 Oct 2025 01:33:06
PMA. Positive Mental Attitude. How about they just do the basics and give 100%! All well and good having meetings about PMA and clear the air talks! Work your socks off, you're playing for Liverpool lads, everyone of us here would love to be in your shoes!
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26 Oct 2025 05:01:36
As a unit we are too easily bullied at the moment, the gk keep kicking the ball out n is lacking composure, midfield has no physicality n is leaving the defence with no protection, gakpo contributed nothing against Brentford, mo can't beat whoever he is up against, wirtz seems lost, only player to come out with credit in last 5 games has been szboz, macca seems unfit, I would try 3-5-2 with vvd gomez konate
Salah szboz grav macca Wirtz
Gakpo/ chisea Etikite/ isak.
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26 Oct 2025 03:33:14
I feel for Slot I really do. I want him to be successful. But his post match comments are pretty ominous in saying that he has "no answer" to opposition long balls and low blocks. We played more "long balls" than United and Brentford. Very concerning and I don't see this ending well for him. Massive bump down to earth here after last season. But that's 26 out of a possible 51 points last 17 games. So it's not just this season that we've been struggling.
Eds/ Carra can u comment on Slot not being included in the meeting? Are there suggestions that Slot is losing the backing of some of the players? Thx.
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{Ed001's Note - it is a very common thing for players to have those kind of meetings, but there are clearly unhappy signs. Ekitike blanking Slot and celebrating with Chiesa when he scored against Frankfurt spoke volumes. There is very much a feel of Slot losing his way and the players.}
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26 Oct 2025 07:13:32
November fixtures look tough for a team playing like we are.
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26 Oct 2025 07:22:33
Thanks Carra.
I honestly hoped (and still hope) that Slot can turn this around, but i think the dye is cast.
11 defeats in the last 24 competitive games - 7 in the last 17 PL games - is not a blip.
Seems like he’s lost the dressing room and it won’t be long before the money men start getting twitchy about potentially not qualifying for the CL next season season.
Shame, but it’s a ruthless business.
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26 Oct 2025 07:38:29
I think he has one more league game. Lose that badly and he’s gone. Hopefully FSG will be having talks privately with a few managers including Iraola. We can’t have a go at the owners here, they gave huge funding.
This is on our current manager. Knowing you’ve got problems against low blocks and counters attacks and not solving it, just doing the same thing over and over again, and failing is just madness.
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26 Oct 2025 08:04:28
The issue started after our loss to PSG last season.
Slot became so obsessed in trying to make us play like PSG forgetting that Aston villa almost knocked out PSG just by being more physical.
I will always say that the only way to inculcate Wirtz properly into our starting 11 is by playing him as a LW with him moving infield amd not giving him the kind of freedom we give him now.
We also need all our players to learn how to press properly and win our duels and that is why Salah being on the bench is non-negotiable.
We can't keep having passengers in our teams.
And more importantly, for now, Dom has nothing to do at RB because he's our best pressing midfielder.
For now, our midfield 3 should always be Dom, Curtis and Grav.
Robbo should start ahead of Kerkez and Gomez should start at RB to add more defensive solidity to our game.
Iraola would be the choice pick, i believe.
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26 Oct 2025 08:09:49
Buying Isak was a big mistake. Slot favouring certain out of form players is a big mistake but the person who needs to take a long hard look at himself is Virgil Van Dijk.
Van Basten said it midweek, he is not a ferocious leader. The only player he bullies is Kerkez when it is the likes of MacAllister, Salah and Gakpo he generally needs to be bawling out.
However yesterday, Szoboszlai was awful, Ekitike was poor and Salah had the worst 80 minutes of a player in a Liverpool shirt since Konchesky. I hate to say it but we deserved to lose yesterday. We are so easy to play against, everyone knows what Gakpo is going to do, what Salah is going to do and all they have to do is wait and then pick up the ball. We do not win 50/ 50 challenges anymore, we do not contest the breakdown and teams run through us.
We either need to set the team up around Wirtz style of play or what was the point in buying him? The tendency to hoof the ball to Salah is a habit that they need to get out of and fast.
Yes, Salah scored at the end but that was polish on a turd of a performance.
It is going to be a long hard season and a new manager will not change anything until certain players egos are given a fundamental shake to the core. Even if it happens, Konate (who has already checked out to RM) and Van Dijk have a tendency to sulk rather than produce a positive performance and Salah is done, shot, finished.
Big contracts were a big mistake. We need to learn from this, it is not Edwards way and we should have held firm and suffered because we are suffering anyway. The beauty of hindsight, hey?
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{Ed001's Note - how is it not Edwards' way? The last time he was involved, he handed out a bunch of big contracts and left us hamstrung with FFP until the Sauds stepped in and bailed us out.}
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26 Oct 2025 08:33:38
Might be an unpopular opinion, but at the moment I wouldn’t like to see Slott gone. I’d give him the season at least, these days of boom and bust are crazy, win the league last year and gone the next after 10 games, seems madness to me. I suppose if there’s big callings out the. That might be another thing, but I think Slott has earned the right to be given time. There’s been a hell of a list of change to the starting 11 since last year, and certain key players seem to have fallen off a cliff, MacAlistwr, VVD, Konate, Mo, for example. If that’s due to his coaching or set up then I guess he should carry the can for that, but they seem to be making individual errors left right and centre.
We also been on the end of some tough refereeing calls that could have gone the other way (I’m not necessarily we’ve had wrong calls, but calls that could have easily gone the other way and probably not been overturned, the two pens for yesterday for example and the head injury against utd) . Gakpo missing a virtual open goal against utd at the end too. I know we’ve not played well, I can’t argue with that, but fortune has deserted us for a little while too.
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26 Oct 2025 09:45:55
Lets hold our hands and go through this times together.
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26 Oct 2025 09:53:05
should FSG and Slot hire back Heitinga? The defence was much organised when Heitinga was around, he left for Ajaz (now 2nd in Eredivisie) . Gio Van Bronkhorst is currently Heitinga replacement.
I remember 2nd half of season we slowed down in goal scoring and won by odd goal, that's because our defence was organised and held up well even under huge pressure.
FYI:
GVB was previously sacked as coach by even Guangzhou China.
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26 Oct 2025 09:56:41
Ed01, pretty sure Ed02 said it was Jurgen who pushed for the big contracts for Hendo etc and that is why Edward’s walked but I am happy to be corrected.
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{Ed001's Note - Edwards had the decision making power.}
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26 Oct 2025 10:12:16
I don't think anybody wants to see him gone. He has cemented himself in Liverpool folklore by winning the league. But as much as I love him the worrying thing is that there is no light at the end of the tunnel. If we could see palpable evidence that there is a plan that we are trying to execute and we are just falling a bit short here and there as we go through growing pains then I would 1000% back him to my last breath, the problem is not only are we bad on both sides of the ball we look unfit and listless (well, every player except maybe Dom) .
And yes, I take your point that we have had bad luck. When you're not playing well, you need small things to go for you, or at least you need small things to not go AGAINST you. If we got a pen and they didn't, then it might very well have been a somewhat different game though we would have been just as vulnerable to their throws and set pieces anyway. If we had scored any of the countless big chances we had created despite being awful in all the games we lost then we would be looking at a different situation now, though it also wouldn't paper over the massive flaws we have tactically and physically.
So yes, I can agree with the entirety of what you wrote, but only to a certain degree.
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26 Oct 2025 10:40:27
Sadly I think Slot has been “found out”. That happens and top managers make adjustments.
There are no signs of any adjustments from Slot.
When we’re talking about stoppage time goals and rough refereeing decisions then that’s a signal the team is not controlling games - and we’re definitely not. Every win has been lucky, we could be looking at an even worse record had we been unlucky so far.
The team is set up wrongly IMO. We’re too easy to defend against and we’re too open at the back.
Salah has either checked out of this manager or he’s washed, either way I think we’re now open to bids for him.
Virgil - maybe his time is nearly over.
I think this November run is going to be decisive for Slot. We could be struggling in the CL and the PL.
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26 Oct 2025 12:08:20
I think he deserves atleast the season and a chance to turn this around as I do belive he is a good manager. There has been lots of changes this summer and I hope he can find his best team and the best style of play that suits the team not necessarily the style of play he want's. At the moment he isn’t helping himself I admit he has his favourites and playing players who are abysmal week after week Kerkez and Salah should not be in the first 11 at the moment.
Anyway chin up lads where the current champions and things could be a lot worse onto the next
Peace out up the reds.
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26 Oct 2025 12:57:45
It depends who's vision for tactics and style this is. Working as a head coach is more tricky if the DOF is choosing players who do not fit in with your system.
Whilst We wanted to evolve the way we play, as football styles evolve every 5-10 years and we need to stay fresh and up-to-date, if what is being put on you is very different to how one usually does things, something has got to give.
I do not like Slot's whining about long balls and low blocks, if you are a top coach you talk through your training and with the improvements made. He has also thrown a couple of players under the bus, which Jurgen never did . This does not bode well for team spirit etc.
Slot does not sound supremely confident and so far has no solutions, despite the huge outlay.
If we loose to City, Real and Palace, i reckon he may be at risk, although we are not a reactionary club. The problem is the complete lack of identity and buy in from the players to whatever Slot is pushing.
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26 Oct 2025 13:11:05
PMA = Positive Mental Attitude.
I think Slot has lost the Players. They can see the tactics are not working, Slot is not playing players in form, ie: Chiesa.
VVD is trying to rally the troops.
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26 Oct 2025 16:04:31
There have been a lot of changes. Remember when Buck brought in 6 or 7 (DON'T! ) players in one window and it disrupted everything. And I genuinely feel that the loss of Jota is bound to have taken a sharp edge from those players who knew him so well. I am not saying that Slot will survive but I hope he is given time to try and create his own team from these players.
One thing that is perfectly clear is that either he does not have the right system for the players or he does not have the right players for the system.
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26 Oct 2025 22:06:44
ed1 - I rekon the slippery slide started when Slot was partying in Ibiza when the season hadn't even finished.
I thought back then, that was a break of character from the calm and stoic Slot that we've seen. But then I thought, hmmmmm, maybe that is his actually personality. Wasn't a good look to me at the time.
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{Ed001's Note - I was not impressed with that, the whole squad basically went on holiday with him. Save all that for the off season.}
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23 Oct 2025 14:25:46
Liverpool have made contact with Antoine Semenyos representatives.
Richard Hughes has a good relationship with the player and his camp, and is keen to bring him in either in January or next summer. There is a release clause - although the number I am not sure of.
The player would be keen on a move to Anfield, however he is assessing all options (and waiting for a particular London club to show interest) .
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23 Oct 2025 14:47:27
I like Semenyo, very good winger, great attitude, hard worker, good end product and physically difficult to stop because of his pace and strength.
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23 Oct 2025 15:00:56
Not true. Liverpool have a preferred target (not news) and semenyo is not it.
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23 Oct 2025 15:05:00
Who is the preferred target please.
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23 Oct 2025 15:20:11
I think he probably means olise.
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23 Oct 2025 15:21:01
Arda Turan is the preferred target.
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23 Oct 2025 15:24:55
Olise?
As for the Semenyo price I read an article this morning claiming that it might be £90M in Jan or £70M next summer.
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23 Oct 2025 15:51:42
Respectfully Akira, Semenyo is a target. Not the only target, and maybe not the preferred, but a target nonetheless. And a very possible one at that.
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23 Oct 2025 16:31:45
VictorGoddamn AKA ViktorVaughan Alter ego.
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23 Oct 2025 17:44:51
Yes he may be a target but def we have not made any contact and double def hughes has no relation with the player or his camp. As far as i know he has no agent and some agencies are working on representing him.
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23 Oct 2025 17:58:36
he seems like a chelsea player to me.
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23 Oct 2025 18:43:14
Don’t see how he seems like a Chelsea player Lfcfan_03beef? Semenyo has worked his way up from the lower leagues, proven himself at every level he’s played at and shrugged off every rejection he’s had. Every time I’ve seen him he leaves nothing on the pitch, works as hard pressing as he does when the ball is at his feet, he’s like Dirk Kuyt with significantly more skill and a turbo charger.
His work rate, attitude and professionalism make him a Liverpool kind of player.
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23 Oct 2025 19:25:28
He supports Arsenal.
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23 Oct 2025 21:00:52
Waiting for someone else?
That’s a walk away for me!
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24 Oct 2025 01:04:53
Agree with that @Faith, if they are waiting for someon3 else then they can ‘sling their hook’ as far as I’m concerned, no matter how good they may or not be.
Wasn’t Fofana our main target at one point? As has been said though, we tend to look at a number of players rather than just the one, for each position.
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24 Oct 2025 01:38:11
I guess what I mean is I see him ending up at Chelsea. I like him but I also liked Caicedo and Pedro Neto and Joao Pedro. As much as I like him, I don't think he would be a huge miss if we didn't get him.
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24 Oct 2025 02:48:10
Apparently the club he's waiting to hear from is Arsenal, I believe he's a fan. Whether Arteta will be keen on paying the £70+ million asking price just to play second fiddle to Saka when they already have adequate cover for him having just brought in Madueke, is the real question. It doesn't make much sense to me.
Personally, if he's waiting for the call from the goon squad I would have absolutely no interest, Olise is appareI believe he's a fan. I believe the club has him down as first choice anyway.
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24 Oct 2025 14:49:02
Good player, incredible athlete. Has some of those Sadio Mane attributes in that he's explosive, direct and can shoot with either foot/ play either side.
He's going to be 26 in January. I wonder if we're more likely look for a slightly younger option.
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25 Oct 2025 11:41:14
I'd prefer they make contact with Baleba's representatives.
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25 Oct 2025 15:27:34
Semenyo was literally racially abused by one of our fans 2 months ago he’s not going to be signing for us anytime soon probably hates us.
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{Ed001's Note - he also posted a message afterwards on social media to thank the club and other fans for their support after the incident.}
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25 Oct 2025 17:36:39
Hello barakdee,
baleba and wharton to replace endo ( think this must be his last season at the club, contract ends 2027).
Mac allister (contract ends june 2028) if he joins RM as per papers, media then two top class replacements are needed for Endo and Alexis, also signing the two together stops them joining other clubs.
Maresca got a red card for celebrating his Chelsea win versus LFC, the only red thing he got today was a RED face, after Sunderland whooped them after being a goal down after 4 minutes, what goes around comes around MASCARA! ( hides a Red face)
The next time after tonight we face Brentford is our last home game of the season, win tonight and perhaps we could say in our last home game this season, Brentford home and away was pivotal in LFCs successive PL wins, last seasons Brentford away game was decided by two late Nunez goals in 91 and 93 mins, after drawing away at Forest in midweek.
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25 Oct 2025 17:18:48
Ed1, any right wingers you think are worth keeping an eye on as a potential Salah replacement in the next season or two? You mentioned Estevão before, but that probably won’t happen. Feels like there’s a real lack of quality RWs right now.
Although I do feel we’ll start pivoting our attacking creativity more towards Wirtz and Isak in the future, so a quality RW might not be necessity. Honestly, finding a world-class Van Dijk successor feels like the bigger challenge.
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{Ed001's Note - not really, maybe Quenda but I haven't seen him play. I am warming to the idea of Semenyo, he is not great technically and can be a bit of a headless chicken at times, but he is two footed, pacey and a real grafter. With the creativity and skill of Wirtz, maybe a grafter would be better on the wing to give him freedom.}
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25 Oct 2025 22:13:20
He’s a massive Arsenal fan. You’re totally clueless. No way he signs for Liverpool.
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26 Oct 2025 10:19:38
I'm starting to feel like we need less of a skilful technical player on the right and more somebody who can run non-stop, make dummy runs, is tall and can win duels and track back on the right hand side. Somebody with the physique of Gakpo and the work rate of Kuyt haha. It's not an easy admission to make, but we have to think about the balance of the team, the way this league is going and how we can get the best out of the players we already have, like Wirtz, Isak and Ekitike. The goals that Mo scores are already being replaced by those three, anyway.
If there was somebody out there who would run from first minute to last and also had enough energy to run at defenders, switch positions with the other two forwards and get into goalscoring positions like Kvaradona then that would be an obvious choice, but there is nobody like him out there. He looks even better playing on the right than on the left, which was supposed to be his best position.
Ed001, Quenda is an electrifying skin a full back sort of winger who can go inside or outside. He is not expected to track back for Sporting though and shows absolutely no appetite for the grittier side of the game the few times I have seen him. He looks like somebody much more in the mold of a Leao than a player we should be looking at, though obviously he's so young that he could be coached. Clearly not a suitable replacement for Mo at this stage of development though, Estevao is light years ahead of him.
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26 Oct 2025 23:28:58
Sorry but no decent player is going to want to join this club at the moment, especially with slot in charge.
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22 Oct 2025 16:36:53
@the fields haven't heard from you in a while mate hope your ok. Any news on the talks between management and players?
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21 Oct 2025 23:27:44
Any truth in Arne in meeting with FSG over his position?
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22 Oct 2025 00:44:25
Carra posted on the banter page that there was some kind of "clear the air" dialogue between the players and the management. Not sure if that includes FSG but maybe that's what the rumour you heard is alluding to. It ended positively though so hopefully that translates to positive performances on the pitch too.
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22 Oct 2025 07:31:36
I’d find a meeting of the nature with owners highly highly highly unlikely at this stage of the season.
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22 Oct 2025 09:38:05
FSG aren’t trigger happy, I can’t see that happening for a minute.
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22 Oct 2025 09:47:11
Probably means players and coaching staff rather than the management.
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22 Oct 2025 09:53:10
Probably management refers to the coaches and manager rather than FSG. Doubt that FSG would jump the gun. This isn't a crisis situation yet.
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22 Oct 2025 11:17:19
Tonight will be very telling then because if they look clueless and do the same exact thing they have been doing they aren't playing for the manager. If they get beat and look bad fsg edwards and hughes might be on red alert.
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22 Oct 2025 12:04:32
I doubt it. But should it continue you’d assume so.
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22 Oct 2025 13:13:21
It won’t be with FSG.
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22 Oct 2025 14:56:24
Player effort looked fine to me against Utd and so far this season so can’t see playing for manager being a problem. Individual errors, set piece defending and key players being off form is main areas of improvement.
But slow build up and lack of space and movement doesn’t get the crowd up for the games until we go hung ho in last 25 minutes. Only works if we score first.
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22 Oct 2025 17:46:45
I think FSG were pretty trigger happy when they fired the King in favour of Bren.
However, those who’ve said ‘it won’t be with FSG’ are almost certainly correct. It’ll be Hughes / Edwards etc.
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22 Oct 2025 22:50:53
King Kenny was never a long term appointment.
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24 Oct 2025 01:06:04
@OP, aren’t the club talking to Arne about a contract improvement / extension?
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20 Oct 2025 08:44:55
To attest to Akira, my understanding also is that Slots position is not in question. The unrest off the pitch is predominantly a handful of players that aren’t particularly happy with their role in the squad currently, but that’s going to happen anywhere. The club are still happy to offer Slot an extension.
However, playing the HIGHLY hypothetical game of the club having no choice but to move Slot on - if it ever got that bad - I imagine the first choice would be Bournemouths Iraola.
The Spaniard has a great relationship with Richard Hughes.
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20 Oct 2025 09:47:22
Which players would that be? Most the regulars from last season are still starting and surely the new ones would expect to have a transition period bedding in unless we bought some bad apples?
Tbh I think we have a big problem at CF and I can see Ekitike not being happy playing second fiddle to Isak. Also looked levels above Isak when he came on yesterday so deserves to start.
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20 Oct 2025 10:15:45
Ekitike should be starting before isak every game for me.
He was in great form before his shirt mistake, I haven't seen anything from Isak yet that says he should be starting.
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20 Oct 2025 10:21:46
Chiesa came on again and was our best player by a mile. Created a goal, put himself about.
He should be first name on the team sheet as it stands.
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20 Oct 2025 10:27:10
I couldn’t agree more personally. Slot has my full backing and will continue to do so, but I cannot understand for the life of me why Chiesa is not getting starts.
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20 Oct 2025 10:28:58
Its not the players you think. Think of the superstars. Slot doesn't want to start either but has no choice due to lack of options.
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20 Oct 2025 10:39:05
If Salah can’t be dropped because of lack of options, then that’s ridiculous. Frimpong did more in 5 minutes yesterday than Mo has done in the last 5 games.
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20 Oct 2025 10:45:49
Hi both Akira and Victor thanks for the info. I know I’m clutching but have you heard the klopp interview with Steven barlett diary of a ceo where he mentions that he could come back and coach pool. I know I’m clutching here but if slot doesn’t make it to the end of the season or we look to replace him in the summer, any chance of klopp 2.0? I might be wrong but klopp with these players could be something incredible.
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20 Oct 2025 11:13:59
Salah should have been given a hero’s send off after winning the league. Virg is still ok but on the decline.
Tbh what’s not working is having 3 goal scoring forwards in gakpo, Isak and Salah. No creativity and no workrate. All just want to score and they aren’t even finishing the chances they get.
Time for slot to show his metal - play your new players and build a team. Even if we don’t win the league no problem but we need to see an identity and evolution to set us up for next year.
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20 Oct 2025 12:47:25
What a load of tosh we don't have the options, the system is the problem and trying to get the new guys to play the way we did last season and not to their strengths instead, Kerkez is an awful inverted fullback, not his strength at all, Isak, Ekiteke and Wirtz have to play up top, Wirtz behind the 2 of them, Grav, Macca an Szob behind them and the fullback play as they should, providing the width.
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20 Oct 2025 12:59:24
If a player is playing that badly then there are always options.
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20 Oct 2025 14:42:38
Salah is a weird one. It feels like Klopp’s team and indeed last season we relied on him completely.
I actually think we did. His form was a closely correlated with our results. Luckily we had the best of Mane who would often step up when Salah was off colour.
So basically I wonder if our success over the Klopp era + 1 was largely down to Salah being so consistently brilliant.
Last season Salah had a chip on his shoulder (no new contract) and carried this team. When his form dropped off, so did ours to a large extent.
Whenever you have to move on from a player who is so pivotal, for so many years, it’s going to be very difficult. Same when Gerrard left, same to a much lesser extent when Suarez left.
I think we have recruited well this season but there are still holes. Isak, Wirtz and Ekitike are excellent signings, but the team is still trying to find its new identity.
I think Salah might go in January.
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20 Oct 2025 16:22:36
For me the current state of the team is down to tactics and not players being out of form necessarily. Yes Salah is well off it. I agree w AAgenda that the system is the problem.
Isak getting some stick but he's not getting a look in. We have to play to our strengths and for me that's Wirtz behind Ekitike and Isak and we play our mid 3 behind. Like to see the full backs get up the pitch. I don't recall seeing Bradley at the byline this season. Yesterday he passed to Mo then took about 5 steps backwards to get back "into position. " Last season he would have gone beyond Mo dragging the opponent out of position and allowing Mo to move inside. Same with Gakpo on the left, just glued to the touchline. Gakpo seems undroppable and although he's not a bad player he's not as good as other options for me and he's a limited player. But he seems to be a Slot favourite which is a head scratcher for me. I think Gakpo and Mo are killing us at the minute.
We have width right now but it's static. We need to add speed and some depth behind the width. For me that's a 4-3-1-2 formation but it means we play a lot more like a Klopp team than a Slot one.
Is the manager willing to change? Not a proponent for making a change but if he can't make this squad tick I support the club first.
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20 Oct 2025 21:32:47
What would the reason be behind not wanting to start Virgil and Salah, after last season? Salah albeit not in great form but was one of the best in the world last season, Virgil seen by many as the best cb in the world, again had a poor game at the weekend, so why would the manager decide he doesn’t want to play either is a very worrying sign, especially now his system is getting us found out regularly.
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20 Oct 2025 23:15:33
Ron i think Mo will find some form eventually but to get the best out of Wirtz Ekitike Isak something needs to give, so for me we drop Mo and change formation.
We've done such a good job with recruitment over the years without spending as much as others. We finally drop bank this summer and we were all eagerly anticipating seeing these new players banging in 3-4 goals a game. I was imagining the days of Keegan Toshack, Dalglish Rush, Beardsley Barnes Aldridge Rush, Gerrard Torres, Bobby Mo Sadio.
But what we're now seeing on the pitch doesn't jive with the players that have come in. I honestly don't see a pattern or set up that I can look at and say oh that's how Slot wants to play. I just don't get it.
As I posted a day or so ago, I think we should have signed a LCB who can play LB, a CB and a DM and one of Isak/ Ekitike. Right now Ekitike looks the more capable player. But, would the set up be changed to suit those players? I don't know. I honestly don't know what Slot is trying to achieve. Last season we would have drooled at the thought of one of Isak/ Ekitke leading the line. So why is it not working now?
Clearly Slot is a much more capable coach than any of us on here, yet the mistakes he's making seem so glaringly obvious to us all, and to make it worse, it's the same thing game after game. It might be getting worse in fact.
Slot spends a lot of time talking up the opposition and what we need to do to fix our defensive issues, but for the life of me I can't see what he's doing to make them worry about US. Neville said yesterday on paper he was worried for United playing us at Anfield. Every team that plays us should be worried about the attacking power that we now have. But Slot has 2-3 of our best attacking and/ or in-form players on the bench because in his eyes they are not working for a myriad of reasons. He convinced Wirtz to come to us over Bayern apparently; what did he say would be his role? Has he kept his word to Wirtz? I can't imagine what we're seeing on the pitch would have been a successful sales pitch, no pun intended.
So he goes tried and tested yesterday and still came up empty handed. Why? Well again I think we're not asking questions of these supposed low blocks yet they are running us ragged in defense game after game. It's not being addressed. I think a coach like Rafa would come in and first set us up to not concede then worry about the other end. Slot doesn't seem to know how to fix either.
We were running united ragged yest with Wirtz Hugo Chiesa on the pitch. I don't recall having to do much defending in those 20 minutes. Again, let the opposition worry about what we're going to throw at them.
Slot has clear problems of his own making imo. Yesterday i posted he was going tried and tested from last season bar Kerkez Isak and the goalie.
It failed not because of the players but how he's telling them to play. Kerkez is not a playmaker from LCB and Bradley isn't affecting anything just passing to Mo and then looking over his left shoulder to make sure he's in the right position alongside Konate.
Slot seems to have gone from flexible last season to inflexible this season and at the end yesterday I'd call it desperate. Not what we want from our head coach.
Big week for the club bigger week for Slot. Let's see if he's capable and in charge. I def have my doubts.
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21 Oct 2025 08:08:04
The superstars may be disgruntled because of their perception of the form or quality of others. In VVD case I’d get it as defensively we haven’t been good enough at all, although I’d include the whole team in that not just the new young players. Mo may be disgruntled because he’s not the focal point anymore, and gets less of the ball so is left hanging out wide while most of the action goes down the other wing or the centre.
That’s just us evolving as a team, tough as it may be for him to be part of. The only one who could be excused is Robbo, but I would hope he realises he’s there to support and help develop Kerkez and will get game time if things don’t settle.
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21 Oct 2025 08:39:44
I'd like to see us line up a 4-2-2-2, with Gravy and Macalister sitting in behind wirtz and Szoboslai as two tens, and give Ekitike and Isak a chance to play together up top. Dom will drift right, Wirtz left and Ekitike likes to drop off more to be involved in build up.
This would give us a solid base with two sixes, Dom and Wirtz both work hard out of possession anyway and can press high, and then full backs can push on.
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21 Oct 2025 09:53:43
Without being in The know my guesses would be
Frimpong unhappy he isn’t playing
Kerkez unhappy he is being played as if he is a hybrid Trent/ Calafiori spending most of the game narrow inside the LW
Jones unhappy that he barely features
Chiesa unhappy as he doesn’t get any reward for his positive performances even after he has had a solid pre-season and after a season Slot said it was hard to pick him due to having no pre-season
Ekitike unhappy because Isak turned up unfit and started playing ahead of him
Wirtz unhappy because he was sold a dream of being a 10 behind the striker and now seems to be scapegoated to the bench and then brought on to play LW, although he got a cameo as a hybrid 8/ 10/ LW
Endo unhappy as he is an after-thought
Rio unhappy as he seemingly earned more minutes then disappeared
I mean, pure speculation of course hahahahaha but Incould understand if there is a bit of unrest especially in a new squad.
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21 Oct 2025 13:58:48
I feel the plan might well have been, Frimpong, Wirtz, Kerkez, Guehi and one of Isak/ Ekitike, and the tragedy of Jota put paid to Guehi getting done in July, and the need for 2 Number 9s to make up the forward numbers (as Nunez and Diaz were always likely to leave) .
It's possible that the alternate plan was 3-5-1-1 Ali Guehi/ Konate/ VVD Frimpong and Kerkez as Wingbacks, Grav/ Macca/ Szobo in the middle and Wirtz behind the Number 9 with the width from the Full backs, the subs then change the shape as required in game.
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21 Oct 2025 14:38:24
Loft, I doubt the plan was to drop Salah after the season he had and after he signed a huge contract.
No one could foresee he would struggle so badly lately.
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21 Oct 2025 15:08:20
Lofty, we had the money for Guehi and had the deal all but wrapped up until Glasner threw a fit. It has nothing to do with the loss of Jota and the lack of funds. I think the plan was to bring in Guehi and have him play alongside Vvd as a Konate replacement, instead of in a back three.
Anyway, I think it's amusing though how Utd fans are all claiming that a back three doesn't work in the league and want their manager to revert to a back four whereas we are advocating for the exact opposite to happen for our team.
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21 Oct 2025 20:33:38
Red_Flyer69 - I agree. I too have my doubts re Slot. This is a totally new structure to work in, one where he is spoon fed players and expected to make them work.
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21 Oct 2025 21:41:22
Doc Slot has to show that he's learning tomorrow. We need to see personnel (not just standard rotation) and tactical changes.
I don't want to hear about long balls (we had more than united), opposition not allowed to score from set pieces or crosses, etc., etc.
We have a ferrari in the driveway and we're driving it like an oil tanker.
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21 Oct 2025 21:42:14
Everything is so slow, the build up, passing back to the goalkeeper, we should be annihilating teams yet we let them come on to us, more urgency is needed.
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21 Oct 2025 21:50:29
We are 1 point from second place Man city. Three points from top place Arsenal. We have had a really poor start to the season and people are wanting our manager sacked!
The man won the premier league last season and people want him out unbelievably from reds fans .
How fickle reds fans have become we have had the best ten years picking up trophies along the way and because we have a blimp they
want the manager sacked .
I am not happy with the way we are playing and losing games in the last minutes but we all jumped for joy when we won our games in the last minutes so let's all take it on the chin and move on .
YNWA.
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22 Oct 2025 07:34:19
iwillbreed - I agree but it’s not lost on me that a couple months ago it was “we’re still top of the league”. Then weeks later it was “we’re 1 point off the top”. And now it’s “we’re 1 point off second and 4 points off the top”.
lol the trend is heading one direction. Time to turn that around!
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24 Oct 2025 02:55:41
Akira, lack of options?! Outside of CB we currently have an abundance of options pretty much across the board. Sure, we don't have a RW "specialist" who can directly replace Salah but Frimpong, Chiesa, Wirtz are all capable of filling that position, and putting any of them at RW would not leave us short on any other part of the pitch.
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25 Oct 2025 09:27:39
Some of you need to go and support the Harlem Globetrotters, if you cannot stand losing.
Yes, Salah is woefully out of form at the moment and he has lost a lot of pace and his first touch. Is it because of Jota or age finally catching up with him? Who knows but Slot dropped him and rightly so.
Konate and Van Dijk both stroll around, play when they feel like it and are not helping the new fullbacks bed in. But it is Kerkez and Frimpong’s fault?
We have too many players making the wrong decision in the final third, that is not on Slot.
Wirtz is slowly getting the recognition he deserves, when our players break their habit of looking for Salah first and go to Wirtz, his runs will become game changers. At the moment hardly anyone picks him out. He also passes the ball fast and hard, not tippy-tappy like our midfield have lazily become accustomed to, which Salah is really struggling with.
Chiesa, Jones and Ekitike seem to be on Wirtz’ wavelength, no surprise there as they are three of our most technical players.
Slot needs to start picking all three (based on current form) because Isak, Salah and MacAllister are not match fit (mentally or physically? ) after at least 8 games.
Time to start building a team, not playing stars. We are Liverpool, not the Harlem Globetrotters.
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