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21 May 2018 20:39:30
BRover, I do agree with you, there are several players in the PSG team who are arguably too good for the French league. Neymar knew the standard of football there before he signed. He and his father were more interested in money than sporting ambitions. I am sure player power will get him out of there though.


1.) 21 May 2018 21:44:49
What do you mean player power? Do they not want him there?

2.) 21 May 2018 23:14:58
I have wondered about mbappe if he will ever reach his potential playing in the French league. I think one of the eds has said he may well end up at Madrid, but he needs to be tested.

3.) 22 May 2018 00:08:02
I think it was more a list of predictions than anything, definitely not a list of done deals.




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08 Mar 2020 10:23:43
Ed's, Can I ask your opinion on how highly you rate Mo Salah. Having just read about his goal scoring and assists record on the bbc website, he really is an outstanding talent. In fact he is up there with the very best.
Comments in the media about Salah being under appreciated by the fans, myself included as I've moaned about his greediness, contradict what he does on the pitch. I think Salah is in the top 5 attackers in world football and I've changed my mind on on him, as previously I have not given him the credit he deserves for some reason.
It will be extremely difficult to replace his goals and assists when he does finally leave. let's hope we get 2 more years from him.


{Ed001's Note - he is a fantastic player. It is not just his goal scoring, it is that he draws defenders to him. He creates space for other players too.}

1.) 08 Mar 2020 11:11:12
Thanks Ed, I do try mate. :)

2.) 08 Mar 2020 11:21:28
He is deceptively strong and is never really injured. 20+ goals in 3 consecutive season. He is a wonderful player and one of our best in the modern era.

3.) 08 Mar 2020 12:06:34
Salah is in the top 3 attackers in world football, let alone top 5. One of Liverpool’s best ever signings.

4.) 08 Mar 2020 12:24:21
if he gets 20 league goals this season he will be the first Liverpool player to do that since Sir Rodger hunt. his running in behind never stops so he never gives defenders a minutes rest must be so hard to concentrate for the full game without switching off for a minute.

5.) 08 Mar 2020 12:44:10
His first season probably set too high a standard and expectation, he was phenomenal. Now he's not been as prolific in the goal stats, it was always going to be difficult to replicate the number of goal he scored we don't take into account the other ways he influences games.

As good as he his, I still don't think he's our best player though.

6.) 08 Mar 2020 12:58:41
Super player,2nd only to Shearer in the Premier League era after a hundred league games. i'd actually like to see where he'd be on the list for assists for the same period, I'd imagine he'd be right up there. doesn't seem to get the same love as Sadio and Manè but the guy is a phenomenon, not just on the good days but also on days like yesterday where he never hides but instead demands the ball over and over and over again. forever hungry for goals, and that shouldn't be looked at as a bad thing.

7.) 08 Mar 2020 13:45:52
Exactly my thoughts, occupies 2 or 3 players at once, loads of goals, second only to De Bruyne on assists and so strong on the ball. I think he probably is world class and it will be a sad day when he leaves. I've read plenty of times here, that if Liverpool were to lose 1 of the front 3, then they would choose Salah as he can be replaced easily. Good luck trying to replace his goals and assists.

{Ed001's Note - yeah I don't know how you replace any of them. The likes of Werner are different players and it will mean the whole side has to adjust.}

8.) 08 Mar 2020 16:37:06
Grino did he not nag his 20th on Saturday?

9.) 08 Mar 2020 21:38:56
Mo Salah is a world class, international super star. He needs no introduction. His numbers are phenomenal over a 3 year period and he is not even a cf, which is a true testament of his immense talent, ability, mental toughness and desire to improve and be the best. I would not trade him for ANYONE.



26 Jan 2020 21:38:06
Don't know what the fuss is about really. Liverpool rested their entire 1st team, gave returning players like Lovren, Matip and Firminho vital minutes and the youngsters gained experience too. We are still in the cup and if we play the same starting line up again at Anfield we will win.
The replay is not ideal but it was a cracking cup tie and all credit to Shrewsbury who will hopefully make a few quid from it. The most important thing is the league and I was happy to see a changed 11 today.


1.) 26 Jan 2020 22:34:34
Looks like the replay will be the same team minus Minamino, Matip, Lovren, Origi, Fabinho, Adrian. So basically just the kids. looking forward to it!



02 Aug 2019 21:26:13
Ed02, With the crazy transfer fees and wages for top players, is it becoming a real possibility that a big European team could be wiped out permanently by overspending?

By that I mean current successful teams and well known Euro teams such as Inter and AC Milam who are not the forces they once were.
Are clubs taking huge financial risks in the hope of getting back to the top table of European football? Thanks.


{Ed002's Note - Inter resolved their financial issues - Milan have other problems. In terms of vast spending and wages clubs are constrained by FFP and commercial income so the chances of it happening should be reduced. Clubs like PSG and Barcelona have to balance the books.}

1.) 03 Aug 2019 18:52:57
What about anzhi makhalahla*? I remember they spent big money one year only to seem to need to offload everyone asap soon after, was that an example of a club who's expenditure put them into big trouble? I don't know what their current situation is.

{Ed002's Note - No, Anzhi is not an example.}

2.) 03 Aug 2019 20:21:28
Aye i didn't really have a clue how they operated to be fair, seemed like they had a naive strategy anyway.



23 Nov 2018 15:53:56
Ed01 I noticed Edo2 has mentioned Liverpool making some questionable buys in Fabinho, Keita and Solanke.
What are your views on the 3 players to date. I personally do not think Solanke has any chance of making it at Liverpool, but I think it is early to judge the other 2 players as questionable buys. Thanks for any input.


{Ed001's Note - Solanke looks a poor buy, Keita has shown some questionable temperament so he has a lot to prove but Fabinho looks ideal for us imo.}

1.) 23 Nov 2018 16:18:04
I personally think Solanke needs a couple of loan moves. He has the talent that's for sure. I think he should have gone up north to Rangers and built up his confidence playing in front of big crowds and scoring a few goals in the senior ranks. After which a loan to a mid table Premiership team to see if he can cut it. To leave him in the under 23's is a waste I personally feel. Just like we wasted Ward. We should have left him at Huddersfield for a year's experience in the Premiership and then judged him. From the players we have out on loan only Wilson looks like he stands any chance of making it. Grujic was meant to be playing well before his injury but I think both will struggle for any real game time.

2.) 23 Nov 2018 16:38:53
I still think solanke has potential to add something different to the team. I thought he was effective end of last season against Brighton as a classic target 9 in the box allowing Firmino to drop deeper and create havoc as a no.10. Having a true 9 also meant Salah and Mane could create the width against a packed defense knowing someone dangerous was ready to pounce on a good cross.

Solanke is much better than Origi in the air and with time could become a physical presence in the box when that is required.

Keita I firmly believe will make it as he has the ability to press, great tackler and has ability to carry the ball and score goals. Still have high hopes for him.

Fabinho I really like too, just needs to get used to the system and pace of the league.

{Ed025's Note - is there anyone you dislike or dont have high hopes for SG?..

3.) 23 Nov 2018 16:38:08
Thanks Ed01, has Keitas' temperament been a problem since arriving at Liverpool or do you mean when he was in Germany. Bit of a concern for Liverpool if he still has a bad attitude. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - when he was in Germany. Don't worry.}

4.) 23 Nov 2018 17:43:54
When Keita first come he showed glimpses of brilliance.
I don't know if he is slow coming back from knocks or whatever but more recently when he's been in the team all he does is give the ball away.

5.) 23 Nov 2018 18:19:51
Keita will prove to be a top signing, some players just take a little longer to adapt that's all, he'll come good and when he does we're laughing. Imagine a fully in form Keita, Fabinho and Hendo? that's what I'm looking forward to and it's coming.

6.) 23 Nov 2018 19:30:44
Keita to me will prove a great signing. Henderson can't string games together. Fabinho I haven't seen anything yet to suggest he should make the first 11. Fabinho looks slow and not strong enough for his size. Next season will be the best time to judge him.

{Ed001's Note - he is not slow, that is why he was able to play well at right back previously. Full backs need to have a fair bit of pace in the modern game.}

7.) 23 Nov 2018 19:51:38
I still remember him from pre season (maybe in wasn't fit) pulling 2 caravans trying to chase the Man City youngsters. He looks one paced similar to Milner or Henderson.

8.) 23 Nov 2018 20:25:23
You’d dare risk Fabinho at full back Ed?
He’d get skinned alive, for me.
Keita I have hopes for, he started so promisingly but then hasn’t lived up to that standard as yet.
Fabinho I’m really not sure of.
I know it’s very early but he doesn’t look any more mobile than Can, so far anyway.

{Ed001's Note - I didn't say that, I said he played there in the past.}

9.) 23 Nov 2018 22:03:43
How fickle us fans are (me included), rating players after a handful of games. Keita has barely played due to injury, Fabinho hasn’t pulled up any trees but hasn’t put a foot wrong in the games he’s played and looks to have started to settle. I think had Salah not come in and had the debut season he did we wouldn’t have that high bench mark to compare them to. I for one still think fab and Keita will prove to be very good signings.

10.) 23 Nov 2018 22:22:27
I don't really get the immobility comments. He's a big guy, but he gets around the pitch well and looks comfortable with the ball. I would suggest he's been the better of him and Keita, but i have no doubt Naby will smash it after a run of games.

11.) 23 Nov 2018 23:30:08
Keita will be a star and fabinho is starting to show glimpses of the player we expected. solanke for me I just don't think will ever make the breakthrough to the first team on a consistent basis. I hate to say it but I don't rate him at all. i really hope I'm wrong but I never am. ask the wife.

12.) 23 Nov 2018 23:53:45
I can see Solanke's career trajectory being similar to Harry Kane's, and it might well take a number of loans before it clicks. I hope so anyway! I just hope he is still with us. You'll have to wait 6 years for me to be proven right though.

Markp08- you should read Ed001's article on Fabinho. You keep saying it yourself- he *looks* slow, but he's actually not, it's his running style.

13.) 24 Nov 2018 03:37:27
I’d agree that the bar has been set high for Fabinho, partly by Salah last season, but also by his counterparts in our rivals teams - specifically Fernandinho and Kante / Jorginho.
You may think that’s unfair, and you may have a point, but that’s the harsh reality.
He was bought for the First XI of a team challenging for the league title and European Cup.
Fabinho doesn’t start for me, at present, it’s Hendo / Milner or Keita / Wijnaldum.
He’s currently 5th choice by my reckoning, if the others are fit.
If Ox was fit, he’d be 6th choice. Or, to put it another way, I’d rather have Hendo or Wijnaldum at the base.
And that wasn’t what I was wanting to say back in August.
We’ll see what happens though, he’s not a write-off by any means but got a lot of convincing to do?

14.) 24 Nov 2018 07:05:12
I don’t see Solanke ever breaking into the Liverpool first team as a regular. I also don’t see how anyone can say he’s better than Origi in the air. Origi bullied Borussia Dortmund and Matts Hummels in the air and has scored some great headed goals - something Solanke struggles with (scoring goals) .
I think he will be sold to a team like West Brom and ditching Origi in favour of Solanke looks like it’s thrown his LFC career down the pan.

Not worried by Fabinho or Keita - give them a season to settle in 👍.

15.) 24 Nov 2018 07:48:51
to use Jorginho as a comparison is slightly unfair yes he’s moved to a new country but he’s also followed a manager who he’s played under for about 4 so knows his style inside out. You say Hendo starts I think we sometimes forget how his career at Anfield started and now he’s club captain.

16.) 24 Nov 2018 13:10:12
Excuse me but did I miss something? How long has Fab and Keita been here that suddenly they are being called a flop or questionable signings? Also, people may say that Fab is being judged harshly based on how his team mates have slotted in nicely or how some players at our rivals have bedded in nicely. Sorry, I don't understand any of that.

Football is not a one size fits all sport nor are it's outcomes equal in all ways. It takes more or less time for players to get going depending on the situation and circumstances and anyone with any type of knowledge of football knows or should know this so why are people acting as if those same rules don't apply to Fab and Naby? Let me remind people that it took Ilkay Gundogan SIX months to get to grips with Klopp's system at BVB so let that sink in.

People seem to forget that it took Salah a while to settle in and become the beast he is now and took Ox, Robbo even longer so again, where's the beef? . Please, let us not cede to panic and impatience and cynicism. Let the boys develop and support them through their progression and surely, they will pan out fine. Why? They were great players before they came to us.



04 Nov 2018 10:00:27
Getting a draw away to Arsenal used to be classed as a good result in the past.
Now Liverpool are expected to put 5 past them, why can't some fans accept Arsenal played well and are clearly much improved.
Liverpool cannot win every game.
My only real issue is the midfield is not very creative. Hinsight is great, if Shaqiri played we may have been too open in midfield, who knows?
I still think Keita will make a huge difference to our midfield once he gets used to the league, ultimately we had midfield injuries but went to Arsenal and got a draw, not perfect but a good result.


1.) 04 Nov 2018 10:22:52
Spot on, Greenflash. In a game like that away from home, you first of all try to contain the opposition hence, I have NO prob. with Klopp's approach going in esp. vs a team in great form and at home. Yes, the midfield was not creative and lacked any type of control and direction and this is where Hendo is important. Pretty sure if Shaq had started and we were too open and got beat, the same people (not you, surely) you know, thos who thought LFC should put 5 past arsenal at home, would be saying he should have been more pragmatic. Same ol' nonsense as these guys are NEVER wrong. I do agree that Keita is needed while Fab keeps getting up to speed with the PL cos DANG, he struggled last night.

2.) 04 Nov 2018 11:44:32
Why can't some fans accept the fact that everybody has their own opinion and, just because people disagree, doesn't make them right or wrong. I was disappointed as I thought we didn't play to our potential, had the clearer cut chances, and conceded somewhat cheaply. Fans expectations have changed as the team has improved and got better, that's a good thing right? Because if our expectations were the same then it would likely mean we were a long way from challenging for the league. As it stands we are not, and we could've won the game yesterday - I don't think anyone should be castigated just for having that view.

3.) 04 Nov 2018 11:57:52
Spot on Seano. It’s all healthy debate but some people take it so personally if someone dares to disagree or share a different view. If we knew as much as we thought we did then we would be playing, managing or officiating in the premier league. Not sat here typing about it.

4.) 04 Nov 2018 12:08:25
We 're not at our best but 8 wins 3 draws is excellent so we can't be disapointed.

5.) 04 Nov 2018 12:43:27
Seano not sure if your post was directed to me BUT if it was, my issue is not people having diff. opinions. Our expectations may have changed BUT the realities of football has NOT. My issue is consistency. Had we lost yesterday, I would still defend Klopp's initial approach of keeping it tight cos that is what I would do esp. recognizing the brilliance of Arsenal. What I don't like (and I am free to air my opinion on this as anyone is) is when people automatically think Klopp was wrong cos he did not do what they wanted. And had he done what they wanted from jump and it failed, they will still blame him for it. That lacks any form of context.

I want Klopp to do what is right and NOT what I want. Also, I try to put myself in the mind of a manager and what he is thinking and Klopp may have done something I disagree with BUT I can understand it based on the context of a game. "If you can't win a big game on the road, you better not lose it" comes to mind here REGARDLESS of what my or anyone's opinion is. That is how a manager thinks, IMO.

6.) 04 Nov 2018 13:09:37
Brover why didn’t arsenal set up to keep it tight to counter our brilliance. After all they are a team that’s in transition which is a term we used for 3 seasons and yet they are brilliant after 3 months of theirs. Klopp seems to like having the 3 similar players in midfield and has done for a number of seasons now. Not for the first time yesterday our midfield 3 were the second best midfield on the park. Unfortunately our front 3 were unable to bail us out and get us the win.

7.) 04 Nov 2018 13:23:53
You are having a laugh BRover. Stop this protecting klopp from criticism.
Recognizing the brilliance of Arsenal? Like how? Xhaka is a crap midfielder and if you surrender to him then that says a lot about our players.
Klopp is at fault coz he signs players and he has no clue who he wants to field in the midfield.

8.) 04 Nov 2018 14:58:35
Anyone who doesn’t recognize that Arsenal are a much improved team from the start of the season isn’t very smart. City were fortunate to play them early before Emery had time to implement his methods. Not many teams will come away from points at the Emirates.

9.) 04 Nov 2018 15:02:55
Xhaka may not be the best player in the world but that is not to take away how good Arsenal are playing under a new manager in a short period of time. Have a little respect at least. Their new midfielder (Uruguayan) was special yesterday. We had enough good chances to win and maybe we should have but Arsenal caused us a lot of problems, they were very good.

{Ed0333's Note - drawing is still a bitter pill to swallow mate. We had so many excellent situations to score and win the game. Yes Emery has done a remarkable job in such a short time and yes they were good but we should have won. I’m not a fan of our midfield I still don’t think the mix is exactly right but for me the biggest difference is the dissipation of Mane, Salah and Bobby. No one expected the telepathy of last season to repeat itself but they’ve regressed so much that when they are breaking three v three they can’t even play simple passes that would create goal scoring opportunities. Salah and Bobby are seriously culpable of this. The hope and silver lining is that they have to come good and when they do the mood on here will be a lot cheerier. I’m loving the psychology of our fans though thinking we should be going to Arsenal and winning. It’s not arrogance but confidence born out of what this team has achieved and Klopp’s leadership.

10.) 04 Nov 2018 15:03:06
A point is better than nothing and take nothing from Arsenal the really showed up and caused us problems we played well in most parts we have a few criticisms but you don't stand still while your winning you keep trying to improve that's why constructive criticism is good but some get a bit carried away.

11.) 04 Nov 2018 15:04:18
"these guys are NEVER wrong", wow the hypocrisy. Yet again Brover your forcing your opinion onto this poster, trying to belittle him / her with your "not you surely" comment. I actually agree with most of what you said, but it's how you put your posts across. You post in a very condescending way, with a wiff of the know all about you.

12.) 04 Nov 2018 18:34:40
Waro, me indicating that I am not directing a point at someone I am responding directly to, is hypocrisy and condescending and belittling to you? That's your opinion and I don't have to agree with it.

Fillet Weld or Harry (I pretty sure that is who this is), you just proved my point for me. Klopp is wrong or crap cos he did not do what you wanted. Also, if you thought Arsenal was not good enough to beat us based on their current form, then that is a conclusion you drew by yourself as the game debunked that theory. They were good enough to beat us and they proved it. That is my opinion. Cheers, man.




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30 Apr 2020 09:31:10
Stoneage has clearly named 5 players, right selection too.




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29 Mar 2020 16:46:59
That is some team to look forward to next season with those 4 additions. Can the Bolton kid arrange for the transfer of Lautaro Martinez too, I'm sure Klopp can squeeze him in somewhere, maybe play a 2-8 formation.




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02 Feb 2020 13:24:24
Nothing against Juventus, but why would the worlds best defender drop down to the Italian league which is clearly inferior to La Liga and the Premier league. Real Madrid or Barcelona maybe, but not Juventus.

I don't know what's the biggest joke, that rag of a paper or just £150 million for Van Dijk.




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21 Jan 2020 11:44:43
On the European page, Ed02 says Liverpool have made no approach for Werner, and that Werner has no interest whatsoever in moving to Liverpool.




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30 Dec 2019 10:14:43
Informative Ed002, your description of Salah on his holidays still makes me laugh. Who knows, maybe this year Salah will excel himself by fighting the fires in Australia or removing all the plastic bags from our oceans, surely that would get him his dream move.





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26 May 2020 22:50:36
Interesting read Ed01. I was suprised with Deulofeus inclusion too, he has never impressed when I've watched him, admittedly not very often.
The top 2 have both had a great season and are way ahead of the competition, Mane is world class. Your assessment of Ronaldo and Hazard spot on, as it just has not worked out for them this year.
Neymar and PSG steamrolling teams every week and winning the league by 30-40 points is a joke, he will look back on his career with regret 1 day, although maybe he is more interested in the money.


{Ed001's Note - Neymar regretted the move from the moment he made it and has never been happy at PSG.}



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24 May 2020 20:01:09
Daretodream, It appears more likely that the season will be completed now. As for Twatter, don't bother.




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16 May 2020 15:32:12
I hope Liverpool do buy him this season, as I am sure Werner and RBL has been put in a difficult position. VVD situation all over again, which is embarrassing.
I suspect Liverpool are not very popular with other European clubs, maybe that's why they are not involved in the european breakaway talks, as their conduct is not that of an elite club.




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15 May 2020 15:37:45
VVD and Salah, golden boot winner, scores loads, creates and causes havoc against any defence, all those goals from a wide right position too. Hard working too. VVD makes defending look easy and has raised the game of Matip and Gomez too.




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07 May 2020 23:51:37
Mo Salah is world class, scores, assists and occupies defenders for his team. I admit that I have moaned about his selfishness at times, which maybe is the reason some fans don't truly appreciate him or is that media driven.
To appreciate his true worth, which player in the world could replicate his performances if he were to leave. I honestly cannot think of 1 player in world football who could better Salah, maybe Mbappe.
No shame in coming second to Messi, good read Ed01 thanks.