Liverpool banter 2

10 Dec 2025 21:08:01
Hi Eds or anyone itk,

With Slot seemingly suggesting there's a way back for Mo if he acknowledges his poor behaviour and apologises do you expect this to happen? And if they can't sort things out do you expect it to be one or both who leave regardless?

Thanks in advance.

{Ed025's Note - i think if Mo wanted to ever play for Liverpool again then he would have to apologize KK, not only to the manager but also the club his team mates and the supporters, do i think he will?...i hope so but no, whether or not Slot goes as well would be determined by results and a better style of play i imagine mate, but that is just my opinion..

10 Dec 2025 22:05:41
If the club really wanted to move Salah on as he has implied, he shot himself in the foot. There may have been backlash from the fans about a transfer a month ago but sadly there will be a lot more supporters happy to cash in after his recent dummy spit.

10 Dec 2025 22:13:55
May be there is something happened behind Salah back which got him frustrated and gave that interview. As I read that Salah was not on Slot plan. He signed new contract so he can sell him in January to generate some funds for new transfer. He knew Saudi are interested in him.

{Ed025's Note - a lot of Bollox is being assumed on this Yaz, truth is there are only a very few people who know the real truth mate, all those who profess to know the in,s and out,s of what went on are blaggers imo, if i told you a space ship came down last night and landed in my garden would you take it as gospel?, the truth will out in the end i suppose but until then people have got to stop being so gullible..

10 Dec 2025 22:30:25
Slot got bumped into that position regarding a way back for Mo by the questions the pundits asked at full time. He wouldn’t have offered it voluntarily.

Like Ed I doubt Mo will apologise, but let’s see. Whilst Arne did on the face of it leave a way back, he seemed really fed up with both the questions that were asked and the issue as a whole which makes you wonder if a reconciliation is realistic.

On Alonso he’ll be scarred a bit by the Madrid experience if he leaves, not exactly ideal prep for his next position.

11 Dec 2025 08:32:05
Ed025 - did it land in your front garden or your back one.

{Ed025's Note - the back one KBL, you should see the marks its left on my astroturf mate...bloody aliens.. :)

10 Dec 2025 20:16:09
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new podcast entitled, Eds C U Next Time on Youtube

11 Dec 2025 05:12:47
Can't wait for this 👍.

10 Dec 2025 19:59:14
Hi diddly Ho,

I’ve reason to believe that Salah isn’t pushing to leave the club - he wants to continue playing at the club, at the highest level.

Please be careful when reading and interpreting what the media are putting out - neither the club nor Salah have been correctly portrayed in the situation.

Diddly out.

10 Dec 2025 20:19:43
All we know for sure is that Salah was dropped for 3 games and then he decided to speak to the media. Everything else is just guesswork and speculation.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely Thunderbird..

10 Dec 2025 20:48:30
I hope he does stay, but if it's truly him being dropped for 3 games and he's done this then he needs to sort his attitude.

I know apparently we're offering him around why not say that, wouldn't be any worse than what he's done anyway.

10 Dec 2025 20:57:34
More twists and turns that a daytime soap opera.

Popcorn at the ready peeps

PS. thanks for the info Ned. Keep it coming mate.

10 Dec 2025 21:09:57
And so the games begin. all posturing.

10 Dec 2025 22:50:23
I don’t care who the player is or was, you can’t have players breaking ranks and criticising the club to the press. Not if you want to be successful.

He didn’t criticise Slot, he criticised the club.

Legend and all that accepted he absolutely should go because this is not his first transgression. He tried it with Klopp too. Not just the antics against West Ham, also the constant “gimme a contract” drama.

He should not be given the opportunity to sabotage another manager, sorry, but if he stays it will happen again and again.

Sell him ASAP and it will all blow over. Keep him and it will be a story every time he’s not on the pitch (subbed or not selected) .

10 Dec 2025 23:09:45
personally hope we move on in Jan.

I had the same thought about Stevie before his last, that we should have moved on.

As much as we can talk about transitioning to life post-Mo, players with his kind of personality / ego are difficult to transition out unless he has a change of heart and is ok with being out of the spotlight.

As it is currently, that doesn't appear to be what will happen, so I think we should take the chance now to move him on and bring in a player in jan.

My ideal transfers over the next two windows for the attacking group would be to move on Mo and Gakpo for Semenyo and Olise.

10 Dec 2025 23:34:25
What I don’t understand is people saying the club are out of order for trying to sell him to Saudi (if that ever even happened) .

Didn’t Klopp get criticised for being too loyal to players who were past it? Didn’t we hope that Slot was a bit more ruthless?

If the Saudi rumours are true we are doing exactly what people were asking us to do.

And if that is true I understand Salah being upset. His life is in Liverpool, his kids are basically scousers and the rug is being pulled from under him but that is still no excuse for whinging to the press claiming he’s been ‘thrown under the bus’ whilst he throws the manager and his team mates under the next bus (they always come in twos don’t they) .

The fact is he’s the highest paid player in our history and he’s not delivering. that's why he was dropped and that’s why the club are open to selling him. The answer? Play better and you wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place.

11 Dec 2025 00:46:28
Sean - yup, fans will always want something / someone else.

11 Dec 2025 09:03:51
Sean if the club wanted to sell Salah after they gave him the new contract then, that don't make any sense. And if they did that then, did they tell him and his team that at the start?

Was there any comms. btw the concerned parties cos Salah is saying things were done behind his back? Should we just ignore these gaps, not address Salah's accusations to the club, and just blame Salah? Sorry, I won't. My thing is that there are WAY too many gaps to fill here esp. from the club's side cos clearly, both parties cannot be telling the truth here.

To me, someone is lying here and if that is the case, I'm not taking the club's side either cos like it or lump it, this makes them look bad regardless people trying to blame Salah for all and sundry. A terrible look for them, in fact and no amount of Jaime Carrager's bent "crash-outs" is going to change that, IMO.

10 Dec 2025 18:28:51
I like slot, he seems like a decent bloke so hope he can turn this around and keep his job! But I do feel like mo has been very hard done by here, think one thing that has gone unnoticed was slots interview after the westham game when the reporter asked him about Joe gomez and how solid he was, slots response was, he got a lot of help down the right side from dom.

Clearly a dig in the direction of mo made in public! It looks like he needs to work on his man management but hopefully this gets resolved and mo can come back into the team! Our away fans were fantastic and singing for slots was a nice touch! Hopefully we sing for both slot and mo at the weekend!

10 Dec 2025 18:58:54
Was it clearly a dig, is this where we are now? And even if it was the whole liverpool fanbase were having a go for his lack of workrate. Or is that all forgotten now?

10 Dec 2025 19:37:15
Awful manager and doubtful he can turn it around. Has the team playing horrible football. Hopefully someone else takes over soon.

10 Dec 2025 20:07:44
In an ideal world Slot can start getting a tune out of this team and secure a top four finish, but come the summer he has to go.

If anything last nights conservative display has raised more questions, why not do this ten games ago instead of persisting with the rubbish that was being served up.

10 Dec 2025 20:40:10
What's up, Whatsup? You don't seem happy. It's only 15 more sleeps to Xmas. Maybe Santa will buy you a new manager.

10 Dec 2025 21:01:38
Lack of workrate?

You do realise that Slot was the one, who when he joined last season, told Mo that he didn't expect Mo to do as much defensive work as Klopp wanted him to do.

10 Dec 2025 21:02:06
I thought it was a dig aswel to Salah . Slot if he doesn't want to play you, won't praise you either, when Cheisa saved that last minute shot, Slot praised Alisson instead . he has his favourites.

10 Dec 2025 21:04:05
Maybe its the Head Coach "s ego.

10 Dec 2025 22:18:08
I'd prefer if it was only one more sleep till slot gets sacked.

11 Dec 2025 01:04:28
Florian, yes to me it seems like a direct dig at mo! Do you think it's alright for slot to do that in public just because some fans think he's not working hard enough? Does that make mo right calling slot out because plenty of fans think he doesn't have a clue either! I'm pretty sure I seen the running stats and mo has covered more ground this season than last season.

And if slot thought mo wasnt defending properly, maybe it would have been a good idea to play a defender at rb instead of our best midfielder for most of the season!

11 Dec 2025 09:10:36
JLC, Salah wasn't doing that much defensive work for years already under Klopp so I don't know why this is being seen as such a shocker. We all knew this at the time. Sadio Mane gave an interview to Rio a couple of weeks back and he said that was the deal everyone agreed to under Klopp and he personally, was fine with it. This ain't new.

As you said, he and Slot agreed the exact same thing last season and Salah delivered. The issue here is that the way we are playing now now is diff. (hugging the touchline a bit more) and I have never seen Slot say Salah may need to track back a bit this season as a result. I could be wrong.

10 Dec 2025 15:29:18
Hi all, Eds especially ed01 as I would love your opinion on this. This is usually the same pattern with this team, Allison gets injured and our number 2 keeper causes our defense to lose confidence as they aren't anywhere near AB1 level and the team completely implodes however, previous times the team was fairly settled and didn't have as many new signings and Salah always seemed to save us with goals and/ or assists.

Then AB1 returns and the defense slowly starts to gain confidence.

This current situation, we have a host of new signings bedding in, Salah still getting used to the new signings and not being as effective.

I love AB1 as he is the best in the world but he's injured a lot in a season and it detrimental to the team every single time.

Either we find a really quality number 2 or we find really good number 1 who doesn't get injured as much.

I have nothing against AB1 I just feel he causes so much harm to the team when he isn't there.

Ed01 what do you think?

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe it is just down to him, as they were abysmal before he got injured.}

10 Dec 2025 18:26:30
Ab1 cannot cover every flaw of each defender, flawed though he himself is, of course!

10 Dec 2025 18:29:06
That's quite unreasonable. No elite goalkeeper would come to be our No.2. And there's hardly anyone better than Ali, so no point replacing him. Also Kelleher was a very good No.2, and I don't think we can hope for someone better than his level to be agree to be a No.2. Mama right now doesn't look a great fit, but let's hope he grows into it.

10 Dec 2025 19:15:14
Reported in Italy that Milan have asked Alli's team about his availability and the Italian journalist saying Liverpool might be interested in replacing him in the summer.

10 Dec 2025 19:56:58
I hope not McGoveb lad.

10 Dec 2025 20:30:09
Can't see it myself Scouse. Hopefully they find a trainer, program, physical therapist to work with him to minimize his injuries.

10 Dec 2025 20:38:56
Who do you get to replace AB1? I can't think of anybody realistic.

10 Dec 2025 23:13:38
We pray he doesn’t go “Jesus saves”.

11 Dec 2025 00:29:20
there is no one reason why our form dipped.

11 Dec 2025 07:38:18
I thought Ali and his family were really settled in Liverpool and were enjoying life?

11 Dec 2025 09:18:33
"Then AB1 returns and the defense slowly starts to gain confidence. ".

When did this happen? I must have missed the 3 goals we conceded in 25 mins vs Leeds with AB1 in goal even tho, none of the goals were his fault. The goals we conceded vs Leeds was due to poor defensive tactics by the manager trying to sit deep, something we are not good at.

Also, are you saying that the constant individual mistakes leading to goals (as well as the poor def. tactics from Slot) are also Marma's fault? Mate, trying to scapegoat Marma (who did no harm in his tenure, IMO) is just lazy and of poor taste cos as Ed01 said, we were abysmal defensively when Ali was fit and IMO, same goes for Marma (who kept clean sheets vs RM and Villa, btw) .

Do better, mate. The scapegoating is just pathetic at this point.

10 Dec 2025 15:14:54
Is Semenyo rated that highly that he would be a heir to Salah? Iv not taken in his play much to have a real opinion on him.

10 Dec 2025 17:07:22
If he comes in, he needs to concentrate on being the best version of Semenyo. Nothing else.

Between Wirtz, Isak, Semenyo, Gakpo, Chiesa and Ekitike we should be able to form a formidable attack. It doesn't look like one right now but there's enough quality there to scare teams if performing to their level. Isak is really really struggling right now. Have to get him and Wirtz to their worldy best. That has to be the key to a successful team.

10 Dec 2025 17:00:56
I would say in terms of replacing Salah's output, that will have to come from Isak and Wirtz.

Semenyo, if we sign him, would offer some direct pace and power with a decent output, rather than a world class output like Mo has been delivering year on year.

Other than possibly Estevao, I don't think there's any player in the world that has the ability to replicate what Mo has done for us on the right hand side.

10 Dec 2025 17:01:01
I'm not sure anyone could replace him TBH but we have to adapt.
It just hasn't worked this season. Our game is just way too slow.

Under Klopp I honestly used to like it when we had to defend a corner. I always seen it as a chance for us to break at speed running direct at the opposition.

The way we play now I think Slot would drop anybody who tried to do it.

His ethos seems to be camp on the edge of the final 3rd our outside their 19 yard box. Pass it relentlessly until
We get board then try a silly pass to break the lines. Loose the ball and have to many players to far forward.

Say what you see.

Much better last night

YNWA.

10 Dec 2025 16:15:40
He's class, and has a brilliant attitude plus a great work rate. Seems like a good bloke too, after he was abused by that colin, from our fan base, he handled it extremely well, would be a terrific signing for us, IMO.

10 Dec 2025 16:18:28
I don't think you should look on him as an heir to Salah. Rather, he is a foil to the players we already have, with Isak, Wirtz and Ekitike the new spearheads of the attack. As far as hardworking, two-footed, incredibly fast and muscular wingers who excel in one on one situations and can go inside or outside go, he is probably the best out there for the price being discussed.

I think his end product still needs some work, particularly when it comes to creating for others, but off the ball he is already a smart and willing runner, I think he will do a lot of sacrificial work to make things easier for our attacking players.

10 Dec 2025 16:24:56
Isak and Wirtz are the Salah replacements.

If we were to get him, I imagine Semenyo would pick up a facilitative role in the team.

10 Dec 2025 16:29:19
Didn't Salah already get some new hair?

10 Dec 2025 17:09:21
Its never going to be like for like because of what Mo has achieved for us but yeah he is great, two footed, hard working, scores, assists and can play anywhere across the front line, good age and homegrown.
In my opinion every bit a Liverpool player.

10 Dec 2025 17:14:01
I don’t think we necessarily need an heir to Salah Snoots.

We’ve been spoilt by having a RW who scores as many goals as he does and the team has been set up to provide him with chances.

Now we have Isak and Ekitike I’d expect more goals to come from the strikers so the RW just needs to be able to create chances for them and chip in with double figures and Semenyo can certainly do that.

10 Dec 2025 17:26:39
He doesn’t Fit into the “undefeated” 4-4-2 Arne Slot Diamond, that only conceded 2 shots on target away at last seasons Champions League finalists.

10 Dec 2025 17:55:59
I might be criticised for saying this but here's my opinion. I think we lack genuine, electric pace over 5-10m like what Mane and Salah used to have. Gakpo, Isak, Ekitike and the rest, to me, don't have carry that which frightens most teams. It could be very much down to the slow build up play and tactics or even the lack of pressing.
Personally, I'd like all out pace on the wings and therefore, Semenyo gives us something different.

I'm happy to be educated but that's my
Prognosis.

10 Dec 2025 18:20:39
“Didn't Salah already get some new hair? ”

Thunderbird2. Now that’s funny. I’ve been laughing for a long while. Absolutely hilarious. It is what the site needs, golden humour to dispel the dark clouds of debate. Chapeau, sir! A wonderful sense of humour.

10 Dec 2025 18:27:55
Adam A Traore has that raw power and pace that frightens most teams with no rapid defenders eg wolves.

10 Dec 2025 18:40:31
Semenyo is a LW who can play RW. Has bags of pace and tracks back. Him and Kerkez down the left would be ideal.

11 Dec 2025 09:19:25
Semenyo can play in all 3 attacking positions, per Ed01 even tho, I never seen him play thru the middle.

10 Dec 2025 15:04:12
Carragher is supposed to be all for Liverpool but yet makes statements attacking Liverpool best player of the past decade. He could have been like Seedorf and tried to remedy the situation but instead acts like an asshat and inflames it to get views. Elmohamady summed it up perfectly.

No wonder we never won the EPL with Carragher as a defender. You only have to watch the first half of the 2005 champions league to see the quality of his defending. Embarrassing.

I do not blame Mo for speaking out after the quality of Liverpool's performances and how slot has them playing. It is terrible to watch, slow and goes against what makes Mo dangerous. He is human and has emotions but probably could have worded it better, but I have no doubt he has tried to raise issues in house but has met a brick wall.

VVD, Konate, Gravenberch, gapko and others could have been dropped for their performances but Mo has been the scapegoat for Slot, Edwards and Hughes. Theyade. for. tooany changes from a successful team.

Anybody that payed 130 mill for player that goes on strike and is unfit in Isak, and looks a million miles off it, and 115 million for lightweight in Wirtz should be sacked. Not to mention is on par with Timikas.

Playing Isak ahead of Mo is a disgrace considering the efforts Mo has put in for this club.

10 Dec 2025 15:25:03
From Carras perspective Mo attacked the club with what he said. Carra defended the club. Regardless of if you like him or not, that's truth of the matter.

Basically what you are saying is give Mo what he wants and make everything about Mo. We are a team, not a 1 man band. The club comes before any player, regardless of what they have done or who they are.

As for the comments about Isak and Wirtz, laughable mate at the least.

10 Dec 2025 16:43:14
@Fields, Carra wasn't defending my club. He was all out for his "revenge", IMO. To me, Carra absolutely disgraced himself with all the bitter, long-winded and personal cheap shots he rained on Salah that one would think Salah had done something so despicable to him in a former life and had been waiting to let it all out at long last.

Also, there was a lot of revisionist history in a lot of his attacks on Mo in his mindless, bitter rants. Saying "Before he signed for Liverpool, he was a Chelsea reject" cos clearly Salah wasn't doing bits at Serie A before Ian Graham, Edwards and his bros. convinced Klopp to sign him. Saying that how Salah threw Trent under the bus for him not tracking back for 8 years, conveniently ommiting that it was a deal he made with Klopp that even Sadio Mane (in an interview with Rio) said he was fine with . So was Trent.

Mate, I can keep going but the bottom line here is that Carra made a right bitter, jealous crank of himself with this personal attacks, flip flopping and disgraceful revisionist history about Salah's time here. And sorry, nobody wants to hear the opinions of a guy who spat at a kid lecture the rest of us on topics like public behaviour and respectful, dignified professional conduct.

10 Dec 2025 16:57:30
Liverpool are said to have long been aware that Salah possesses the biggest ego at the club but given his extraordinary record of goals and assists, it was accepted. The report added, however, that should the winger's level of end product slip, the support he enjoys from the club will no longer exist.

10 Dec 2025 17:03:58
Honestly it’s become a circus but o place blame solely at salahs door, he has a bit of a habit of playing the media how he wants when things don’t go his way. etc. no player is bigger than the club.

10 Dec 2025 17:05:52
Carra has a blind spot when it comes to Mo. His comments about AFCON last year pretty much give it away.

In addition, he's not authentic. He's playing a pantomime character for his employers.

I am pretty sure none of the current Liverpool squad like him.

As a comparator, check out Stevie G's words on TNT.

A legend recognises a legend.

10 Dec 2025 15:47:37
Man U fan looking for the bite!

10 Dec 2025 16:13:36
Have you seen Mo Salah play this season? He deserved to get dropped. I don't care what he did last season or the season before. He's played 19 games this season and scored 5 goals. For a player that doesn't defend that isn't good enough.

10 Dec 2025 16:32:27
Let's get it out there, Salah was totally WRONG. and as a Liverpool player for many years, he was quite within his rights to say what he said.

10 Dec 2025 16:42:16
For what it's worth, Thefields, you're spot on. And regards to Slot, I said before the game that the travelling support would sing his name, and they did. I'm certainly not happy with our drop in form, but I'll be singing Slot's name on Saturday.

It's what supporters do. It's one thing criticising him, I've said things myself, but some of the guff that's been said on here has simply been made up to support people's agenda. The bottom line is, despite people's wishes, he ain't going anywhere.

10 Dec 2025 17:18:55
Carra, regardless of what you may think of him as an individual, was doing his job. He has rattled cages and sky must be laughing as they are the only winners in this.

However, carra played a huge part in us winning in 05 and literally ran himself into the ground. If I remember correctly, he was throwing himself round like a rag doll in extra time to try get us to pens.

Is he the best defender? No. Did he have his draw backs? Absolutely but you cannot diminish his role in it based on the first 45. They were all awful and that's why we needed the miracle in the first place.

As for Mo, the only person that thinks he was a scapegoat was him all based on the media noise. His form was terrible and wasn't just this season either. Go and look at his output from around March. He wasn't the only problem and I don't recall anyone saying drop Mo and it magically all gets fixed.

The summer spend was done based on a life without him, building round someone heading into his mid 30's would have been a horrible mistake by the club.

10 Dec 2025 17:26:01
I don’t think anyone blames Mo for being upset. He’s an elite footballer who’s not ready to accept his best years are behind him he was always going to be annoyed if and when his playing time is restricted.

That doesn’t excuse the way he went about it though. Since he spoke to that reporter every question to any of our players and the manager has been about Mo. At a time when we need to be concentrating on winning games more than ever he’s dropped his team mates and the manager in the middle of a media storm. He’s been around long enough to have known that this would be the reaction to his comments so you can only assume that’s what he wanted.

That is why he’s getting stick and rightfully so. He was out of order and now he’s just left the manager and his team mates to pick up the pieces.

Yesterday he tweeted a picture of himself in the gym with no caption. Why? He hasn’t tweeted anything for 6 weeks and now he does that. Why wouldn’t he say good luck to the lads tonight or something like that?

Because he wants it all to be about him that's why.

We all love Salah he’s been immense for us but he’s behaving like a petulant child.

10 Dec 2025 17:34:50
Suarez did a lot worse, as did cantona. my point being not to defend Salah, but to point out that other superstars have been handled differently in similar or worse situations. Carragher offered no solutions just an attack.

10 Dec 2025 18:21:00
Why are people still talking about Jamie Carragher? Yesterday’s news is today’s fish and chip wrappers, for those of a certain age.

If he continually annoys you press the volume or off button when he on. Like all the talking heads he’s just trying to boost subscription figures by being provocative.

10 Dec 2025 18:22:49
Carragher was on about again, seen clips of him n Micah Richards ina heated discussion when Richards said he feels a bit sorry for Salah . he thinks because he's a Scouser n played for the club he is still relevant.

he dug out Mo for not coming out to speak about our bad period . he always got something to say . never good, been hanging round with rat boy too long.

10 Dec 2025 18:37:06
Carra went over the top with his comments. As for Salah I stand by understanding his outburst. It’s playing out like it did for quansah Elliot and our most expensive player Nunez. No man management skills at all.

10 Dec 2025 20:45:59
Yes, Scouse John, because Elliott, Nunez and Quansah have been a major loss this season. ( To be fair, I'll give you Quansah, we perhaps could've done with him) .

May I ask, where as this "lack of man management skills" come from? I don't recall anyone questioning it last season. When he benched Quansah he was praised for doing so.

10 Dec 2025 21:09:18
Rome . why will you be singing Slots name . I get we cheer the team but why you also certain he's not going anywhere . have you seen things in the game what make you think yea that's a great manager.

funny how some people word things so they're the ones who think they support their team more . I go the games aswel n plenty are moaning at him n loads want him gone .

10 Dec 2025 22:06:55
You're right on the money there Olired. Love it.

10 Dec 2025 22:11:50
Because, Strom, he's currently the Liverpool manager, that's why I sing his name. That's why those that travelled to Milan were singing his name.

Regards why I don't think he's going anywhere, I've said on here a few times, it's because it's my opinion that the powers that be don't consider there to be a suitable candidate to replace him at this moment in time. I've also said that I've flip flopped on whether he should go or stay as well. After the PSV game I thought it was time for him to go, but I've since changed my mind, again, because I don't see an alternative.

If you want him gone, you're obviously entitled to have that opinion. And if you say there are loads that want him gone that go to games, so be it. When I was there last week at the Sunderland game, no one by me was happy, but I personally didn't hear anyone say they wanted rid. Like you say, there are no doubt those that do want him gone.

I'm sure you'll be at the game on Saturday, so let's see how that turns out. I wouldn't mind betting that his name will be sang.

Regards to supporting the team more, I couldn't care less. I've always considered myself to be fortunate to be able to get tickets and to be able to afford to go. I do, however, consider myself to be more of a supporter than those that say they can't be bothered to watch us on tele because they don't like the way we are playing. I'm sorry if that point of view offends you.

10 Dec 2025 22:17:38
@Rome: I just think it could of been sorted behind closed doors mate, if slot talks to Mo but with Mo’s comment of breakdown in communication hints at that not happening, looking back on last season with Nunez and Elliot they was big part of the team then just dropped ( Nunez after the psg penalty miss it changed) and eventually shown the door maybe Salah is reading the m.

o of slot? As for carra and souness they could take a leaf out of Gerard’s book when commenting on it.

10 Dec 2025 22:48:29
Scouse, I've no time for Carragher either mate. Some of what he said was vindictive, petty and unnecessary.

Regards to Elliott and Nunez, I never rated either of them. Just my opinion. I've said to you before, I'm a miserable git. My wife will testify!

10 Dec 2025 23:34:30
Rome, your point of view didn't offend in the slightest . just that you seen certain that's he's going nowhere because you've mentioned it a few times on here, last year I thought Slot was a breath of fresh air . new ideas n came across really well but that has evaporated very quickly this year, I too think he hasn't gone because there's either no one available or they are waiting for the right man .

but I can't see us closing the gap to the top 4 if he continues to play this absolutely dreadful football, id love to be wrong . but as u say its all about opinions, some want him gone some want him to stay.

11 Dec 2025 00:31:04
How do you have "no doubt" that Mo has tried to have a conversation but has been met by a brick wall?

11 Dec 2025 10:49:10
Faith, this is where my issues are. There are too many gaps to fill. I agree, we have no way of knowing ifMo reached out to the club and they said nothing. We also have no way of knowing Mo did NOT do this. And to me, it is up to the club to clarify this cos scenarios cannot be true.

I mean if I accused accused you of having no comms. with me on a topic and in actuality you did, wouldn't you come out and set the record straight? Cos if you don't then, people will assume you are guilty of my accusation, no? Just saying, man.

10 Dec 2025 14:56:00
Ed001 What are your views on Slot regarding his man management skills. The way he dismisses likes of Endo, Chiesa and until absolutely needed Gomez. Apparently there has been zero contact with Elliott since his loan. Rio barely gets a minute and obviously what Salah suggested about no relationship.

{Ed001's Note - I am not happy with his man management at all, it seems pretty much non-existent.}

10 Dec 2025 15:23:27
Thinking the same mate tbh. let's hope he doesn't alienate anyone else important.

10 Dec 2025 15:25:40
He is a coach not a manager. He does not exude confidence, makes far too many excuses and is welded to this slow paced vision he has for the game, which is not suited to the prem.

10 Dec 2025 17:05:23
He’s a walking Dutch stereotype. Charisma doesn’t tend to be their strong point from the ones I’ve worked with, good folks but very blunt honestly not much else to them.

10 Dec 2025 16:46:27
Ed, let's also not forget how influential Heitinga was in the DR as the bridge btw the players and Slot cos you said the players like communicating with him better cos Slot seemed distant thru last season.

{Ed001's Note - yes, he is a huge miss, but that is just an excuse as Slot could have brought someone else in to do the same role.}

10 Dec 2025 17:09:21
Doesnt rate the first three so why play them unless necessary? For all intents and purposes Elliotts move to Villa was a permanent one. No one could have foreseen Emery taking the absolute p. outa Harvey and Rio is a kid who has had a lot of top level exposure for his age.

He was getting minutes at the start when we were going well but many a manager would keep a 17 year old on the bench when his job is on the line.

{Ed025's Note - as i see it FM villa dont want to trigger Elliot,s clause where if he plays more than 10 games they are obliged to buy him mate..

10 Dec 2025 19:10:10
Thats exactly what's happening Ed, but like i said no one would have thought Harvey Elliott would not make 10 appearances for Villa in all comps. He must have made twice that for us last year when we were champions.

10 Dec 2025 19:12:41
That’s why his man-management is poor in FM. He refuses to give certain players a chance in the first team, even though the ones currently starting in their positions have been awful all season. Gomez could easily have played instead of Konate but instead we’ve had to watch Konate making mistakes week after week.

Chiesa has practically been saving us all season and he has yet to start any games for us this season bar once in EFL cup. This lack of rotation, poor man-management or stubbornness, whatever you want to call it, has left us sitting 10th in the league. With only Wolves and Burnley having worse run of form than us, and both sitting at 19th and last place in the table.

10 Dec 2025 20:45:38
You want him to mange us, when we're clearly in a mess. And still follow up with players on loan with obligation?

There's plenty to complain about with Slot but I'm sure there is a whole backroom staff to keep in touch not him personally. Also he did say he spoke to him, but not as frequent as you'd like.

I don't think he's going to turn it around mind, but let's not just find things to be mad about that if we weren't in such a bad spell you wouldn't care.

11 Dec 2025 00:31:48
to be fair, Mo said that he did have a relationship with the manager, and then it changed.

10 Dec 2025 14:52:18
Hopefully not tactless, but I was wondering how much Salah would go for when/ if he is sold?

The only reason I ask is because, on the live chat, I made a point that I think Salah would likely go for 30 million, as opposed to the 100+ million Al-Hilal submitted a season or 2 ago. Others disagreed, believing Salah would go for 50 million, one even said closer to 100 million. I just can't see it being anywhere close to 100 million. No chance.

According to Ben Jacobs, the clubs interested are: Al Hilal, NEOM and Al-Quadiash. I know the Saudi project is beginning to wind down, with numerous clubs available for purchase, which the private investment fund no longer wants to bankroll, but even then Salah would be highly sought after.

So, how much do people think Salah will go for?

10 Dec 2025 15:10:59
Hughes will bleed them dry, if there's one thing the silver tongued cunning linguist is good at, its that.

90M.

10 Dec 2025 15:14:13
30-40 million I'd say.

10 Dec 2025 16:47:10
We have no leverage here as we are the ones bombing him out so yeah, 40m as @Salah said.

10 Dec 2025 17:02:38
A hundred thousand times what that spitting guy is worth.

10 Dec 2025 16:31:37
The same way Newcastle saddled him for isak Mrbrightside.

10 Dec 2025 16:37:12
I'd snap their hand off, if they offered £40 million plus.

10 Dec 2025 19:08:45
Whatsup I think we can safely say that Newcastle didn’t want to sell Isak so to suggest they ripped us off is laughable.

Hughes was tasked with signing the very best number 9 he could and nobody could argue that’s exactly what he did.

Isak was a dream signing that no one thought was possible but Hughes somehow managed to pull it off. He shouldn’t now get criticised just because Isak hasn’t hit the ground running.

10 Dec 2025 21:30:55
I personally think (and I said so in a post a few days back) that Salah will go for around £60-£70m, and therefore a similar transfer fee that Semenyo would cost us.

I'm basing this on a couple of things, the PR that is going out about Liverpool not being interested in selling which will (hopefully) increase the price for the Saudi clubs who are interested in signing him now.

Mo is also on £20m a year, so for LFC (excluding agents fees etc etc - RIP ED002) they could swap Salah for Semenyo and save at least £10m per year in wages.

10 Dec 2025 14:47:59
There are rumours going around that Alonso could be sacked if Real Madrid lose tonight. Interesting if true. Maybe that's what we've been waiting for?

10 Dec 2025 15:15:13
Like a kid looking at the sky on Xmas eve hoping to see Mr. Clause.

10 Dec 2025 17:06:00
About right, FM.

10 Dec 2025 16:48:27
Salah, cos he is sacked doesn't man he is going to come to us directly. Lots of clubs out there who would take him. Failing at RM is not a death blow to your career for obv. reasons, IMO.

10 Dec 2025 17:03:29
More chance of getting a chewie from Roy.

10 Dec 2025 15:46:07
You would think that a conversation would at least be had, Alonso might want some time out until the end of the season. It might be a now or never for the club to get him if they really wanted him. It doesn't feel to me as Slot is going to be the long term manager here even if results improve.

I am not too concerned about his performance at RM, from what I have heard is that he has tried to instill more professionalism in the club and players and it has not gone down well. Players going above his head to Perez and making life difficult.

10 Dec 2025 13:38:48
Watching the game last night with a couple of mates and Just moving away from the monotony of the Slott in, Slott out or Mo stays or goes for a bit I mentioned how drab the modern day match comms are these days - not just football but the comms on most sports I like .
So for a bit of fun I put down my 3 favourite match comms and moments that I’ve witnessed heard or watched - and yes I’m showing my
age!

1 - Coleman and Banks save against Pele in Mexico 70
2 - Cliff Morgan - Gareth Edwards try for the Ba Bas v the all blacks
3 - Harry Carpentrer - the rumble in the jungle when Ali knocks out Foremsm.

10 Dec 2025 14:10:42
I watched the Gareth Edwards try only the other day. You've come up with 3 classics there, Bristol. "They think it's all over" Kenneth Wilstenholme, has to get a mention, also. Not a massive rugby fan, but Jonny Wilkinson's drop goal, Ian Robertson commentary. I'll come back with a 3rd.

10 Dec 2025 14:36:54
Wolstenholme nearly got in for me Rome with the comms on Brazil’s 4th goal in 70 -Carlos Alberto.

10 Dec 2025 14:43:45
"Mellor, lovely cushioned header, for GERRARD! "

"OHHHH YA BEAUTY! "

"WHAT A HIT SON! "

"WHAT. A. HIT. ".

10 Dec 2025 14:44:05
As I’m Irish, I have to put this one in.
George Hamilton commentary for Dave O’Learys penalty in Italia 90 for RTE.
As O’Leary was about to strike the ball ( a winning penalty would send Ireland to the Quarter-Finals at our very first World Cup finals appearance) George uttered the immortal line ;
“O’Leary vs Timofte…. A nation holds its breath…”.

10 Dec 2025 15:04:43
Little Archie Gemmill waltzing through the Holland defence.

10 Dec 2025 15:05:00
MK -, that was going through my mind as well mate

Colemans comms were iconic though. He was on the Mik for a few of our great games -73 UEFA cup final and the 74 cup final!
“Goals pay the rent and Keegan pays his share”!

10 Dec 2025 17:04:15
“And that’s why he’s the greatest player in the world! ” Maradona 86 vs. England.

10 Dec 2025 15:37:50
The great Peter O’Sullevan calling home the even greater Red Rum at Aintree in 1977.

10 Dec 2025 15:48:48
No particular moments but commentators Alan Green, Mike Ingham, Peter Jones, Barry Davies ("that's nice, that's McDermott and that's a goal! ") . Ok, one moment.

Murray Walker has to get a mention as does the ever smooth Peter Alliss.

Mike Costello another whilst Reg Gutteridge and Jim Watt made a fine double act.

Modern day commentators are soulless. A recent montage of clips an 5 Live ahead of the recent Chelsea Barcelona game were all Alan Green and all infused with a ferocity and passion of delivery that is sorely lacking today.

10 Dec 2025 16:19:15
George Hamilton, RTE "The Spanish manager is pulling his captain off! ".

{Ed025's Note - i remember one of the commentators saying at the boat race in 1977 "now here is the chairmans wife going to kiss the cox of the winning side".. :)

10 Dec 2025 17:29:40
Can’t remember who the athlete was and I think it was Coleman who uttered the immortal line just before he crossed the winning line.
“He opened up his legs and showed his class”.

10 Dec 2025 18:20:54
Gaga3, it was attributed to Coleman but was in fact Ron Pickering. It was about Juanterana, the Cuban athlete.

10 Dec 2025 19:15:33
Ally McCoist on Konate a couple of years ago ‘whoever plays right back for Liverpool must feel good with the big man inside them’.

10 Dec 2025 19:55:19
Has to be Barry Davies, on BBC1, during the whole of the 1977 European Cup Final but especially his iconic words, following Phil Neal's penalty, to make it 3-1, "With such simplicity, the European Cup surely is won". Still, for me, the greatest night in Liverpool's fine history.

10 Dec 2025 20:27:41
The batsman's Holding the bowlers Willey.
Infamous cricket commentary from West indies Micharl Holding v England's Peter Willey. followed by minutes of commentators hysterics.

10 Dec 2025 21:43:57
Continuing the cricket theme with another Johnners quote:

"He couldn't quite get his leg over" - referring to Ian Botham swivelling to try to hit a ball, stumbling over the wickets and just catching a bail with his thigh.

Let to 3 minutes of just hilarious laughter - including "oh Aggers" - as Johnners and Aggers both peeing themselves with laughter!

I was privileged to hear it live on TMS as I was heading somewhere with my parents in the car.

Some other notable Johnners quotes:

"The bowlers Holding the batsmans Willey" - apparently he didn't actually say it, his son said (when writing his biography) that it was too good a pun to pass over!

"There's Neil Harvey standing at leg slip with his legs wide apart, waiting for a tickle"

Said about Peter Pollock from SA who had broken his ankle "He’s obviously in great pain. It’s especially bad luck as he is here on his honeymoon with his pretty young wife. Still, he’ll probably be all right tomorrow if he sticks it up tonight. "

Would've loved to have met the bloke, and amazing that his proteges - Aggers and Blowers - have had such long careers, with Aggers still going strong!

10 Dec 2025 22:11:10
I seem to remember John Motson during a Euro 96 game saying something like "Here come the German's" followed by the player on the ball surname which just happened to be Kuntz. Bad timing at its best.

10 Dec 2025 22:17:51
RTE legendary football commentator Jimmy MaGee. WC finals 1986. Argentina v England. Maradonna. Second goal as he dances and scores "Different Class ". "DIFFERENT CLASS! ".

11 Dec 2025 07:52:03
Ted Lowe describing Fred Davis’s snooker shot …. “He’s too old to get his leg over these days so he’s using his left hand”.

Murray Walker …” You can cut the air with a cricket stump”

On a serious note, Wolstenholme’s “They think it’s all over …. it is now”. Magnificent timing.

I assume most people, certainly of a certain age, will know about Colemanballs’. If not, google it and see what you get. From a time when sport was a bit more fun.

10 Dec 2025 13:01:14
On Isak lads, a year ago the lad had 7 goals in all comps for Newcastle. Ended the season with 27.Keep the faith the guy is elite.

10 Dec 2025 13:58:10
Playing devils advocate, and based on a stat i saw whereby only 7 / 28 players bought for 80m or more proved to be a success, im calling him as the next Benteke for Liverpool.
Not saying that he won't score some goals, but just don't see him being a raging success at a club that faces the tactics that we do.

Que the only positive vibes brigade calling this out, but i'll stick by that 1 of Flo, Eki and Isak will not be deemed a great success at L4, and my call is that its Isak who doesn't make the grade.

Wirtz to be the next Kenny though!

10 Dec 2025 14:20:47
I sneezed watching the match last night and he fell over.

10 Dec 2025 14:56:51
Isak does very little other than score, and yes he is an elite finisher, a good sub to have, but i don't see where he fits in a hard working side.
His stats have been woeful so far, and i can't help but think that the chaos around the move has had a serious knock on effect.

10 Dec 2025 15:06:32
I agree Mr Brightside. I am worried about Isak. Wirtz and Ekitike just look like Liverpool players. They work hard, they're silky smooth and they're still only 22 years old with a lot of years ahead of them. I think they'll both be massive successes for us.

Isak though, I agree fully. I'm just not seeing him as a Liverpool player right now. He's injury prone, lazy, weak, lacking end product etc. Maybe he'll come good next season after a proper pre-season? But right now I have zero expectations for him this season. If he gets to 10 goals I'd be staggered.

I'm gutted with how it's going. I was so excited for him to sign for us. You're right though, our laboured and slow build up, coupled with our refusal to put a cross in early just seems to not suit him at all. The worst part is, if we sell him you just know he'll go do an Iago Aspas and score 150 goals for someone else.

10 Dec 2025 15:22:11
All about opinions lads, me personally am starting to think all 3 will work out. Initially had my doubts on Wirtz. £80 m doesn't get a lot these days Mr Brightside so that stat wouldn't surprise me, the likes of Anthony, Mudryk or Enzo whereas the three we're talking about are top class. Cream can't help rising im afraid.

10 Dec 2025 15:23:02
MK Scouser - id like to know whos vision includes him, is it Eddie and Hughes or Slot.
I wonder how they see this side evolving, with Isak.
If you could blend Nunez and Isak, you'd have a generational striker, and right now, as much as i hate to say it, Nunez work rate brought more to the side than Isak has done.

I hope this changes but Im not convinced.

10 Dec 2025 15:27:44
Isak won the ball back last night did he not? And then had a shot. A bad shot. But wasn't a lazy interception. Also his link up play is good as he has showed many times at Newcastle.

He started the season unfit, got injured and has been in and out of the team. He will be fine once this team has gelled and he is properly match fit after this run of games now.

10 Dec 2025 17:05:54
I think all three will win the Ballon D’or!

10 Dec 2025 17:06:48
Be sound when we get a new manager the fire power in the team will be unlocked again.

10 Dec 2025 16:50:49
Isak doesn't look fully fit year. Also, the way we play is very diff. to the way Newcastle play where teams don't park the bus against them, for the most part. It's a transition esp. when Isak plays in a team that is out of sorts schematically.

10 Dec 2025 16:32:21
This was always my concern with Isak and particularly with the price we paid. He has never been a hard worker or contributed to the team other than goals which is obviously important, but we're playing with 10 men on the pitch and he contributes very little unless the ball is dropped at his feet. What's been more worrying is that he's never even in a position where a ball could drop to his feet so he can have a shot. In the precious few build ups that don't involve 5 minutes of passing between our CBs, Isak has been no where near the box. My concern is he could be the perfect player for slots tactics of creeping the ball forward so slowly it bores the opposition to sleep then Isak pounces with a clinical finish. The problem is 1) it doesn't work cause it turns out the other team wants to score and will actually press us, and 2) it's boring the fans to death!

If Isak was a third of the price and could be an impact sub we throw on at the end of games to try to snatch a victory from a team with a stubborn low block, I could see him making sense. But there's no way you don't expect a British transfer record player not to start. The whole situation just makes no sense. I'd love if Isak proves me wrong and actually starts contributing but he's barely broke a sweat with the effort he's put in and he's not even scoring goals.

What's worrying is he seems to be just another thing management team has gotten wrong this year.

10 Dec 2025 18:15:57
I can see Isak is getting fitter by the game. The lad basically missed pre season but he seems to be getting stronger. As Joe Gomez getting longer game time helps.

We were much better last night! Don't scoff at the result. it was steady and Slot got his tactics spot on. Although he kept having to remind the players to focus, and a very dodgy penalty won us the game. we should have been 1 up Tru Konate goal.
Overall better than most of us expected I'd say.

YNWA.

10 Dec 2025 19:41:01
Isak will be just fine I guarantee it.