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11 Jun 2018 17:25:14
When was the last time we produced a decent keeper from our own academy?

niinja123

1.) 11 Jun 2018 17:42:00
I'm 47, been a supporter since I was 8, don't think I can think of one.


2.) 11 Jun 2018 17:51:05
Been a while since a good home town goalkeeper anyway!


3.) 11 Jun 2018 17:51:12
*grown.


4.) 11 Jun 2018 17:58:03
You could say the same about the majority of premier league teams.


5.) 11 Jun 2018 18:00:08
I can remember back as far as Clemence and can't remember any home grown keepers. There was lots of potential but none ever came through the ranks.


6.) 11 Jun 2018 18:00:31
was Gulasci from the academy? If he was then he’s become a competent keeper for a decent bundesliga side.


7.) 11 Jun 2018 18:02:04
I’m 46, supporting since a similar time and I agree with Johnny.

So we ether go half hearted and buy Butland level or go all out for a top keeper and spend £80m.


8.) 11 Jun 2018 18:06:41
Fair point. Although that Irish lad caomhin Kelleher highly regarded. Last keeper from ressies to get a lookin. a tough one mate. Tony warner? A danish keeper in early 90's?


9.) 11 Jun 2018 18:13:09
Tommy Lawrence. the first sweeper Keeper.


10.) 11 Jun 2018 18:36:51
Tommy Lawrence. Loved the guy. He was known as the 'Flying Pig'. Big lad in all senses of the phrase. He was in goal in my first ever Liverpool match attendance in 1962-3 season.


11.) 11 Jun 2018 19:34:42
I remember thinking Anthony warner was going to b a good keeper but sadly never happened.


12.) 11 Jun 2018 19:34:55
Grabara from the u23's is very good! should be made 3rd choice keeper and ay any dead rubber games or be sent out on loan for the season.


13.) 11 Jun 2018 19:44:19
David James was good.


14.) 11 Jun 2018 20:16:13
David James was a clown and was bought from Watford to replace Grobelaar. He was lauded as the next big thing in England.


15.) 11 Jun 2018 20:45:09
Bob bolder was the last homegrown keeper. Him and Bruce grobelaar.

{Ed002's Note - Grobbelaar was hardly HG.}


16.) 11 Jun 2018 21:41:02
Didn’t David James once injure this thumb from playing the PlayStation?


17.) 11 Jun 2018 22:06:51
In fairness, David James was considered the best England goalkeeper for a long time and won over 50 caps. Shows how bad the keepers are in England overall.
Last decent keeper in England was David Seaman in my opinion.


18.) 11 Jun 2018 23:15:05
Stephan Henchoz was good in the fa cup final.


19.) 12 Jun 2018 00:01:19
Bob Boulder came from Sheffield Wed if I can remember right but never got a game for us back in the 80s. He was suppose to be Grobbelars understudy.


20.) 12 Jun 2018 12:11:35
David James cost Liverpool the title more than once, he was terrible, great shot stopper but awful decision maker.


21.) 12 Jun 2018 13:19:29
David James never injured himself playing his PlayStation, he blamed it for destroying his concentration in matches. He maybe had a point but he must have kept playing it anyway.


22.) 13 Jun 2018 01:53:32
Bring Tony warner back.


 

 

 

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30 Nov 2018 15:24:11
What does Shaqiri need to do to get a start?

niinja123

{Ed025's Note - get a skill bypass?.. :)


1.) 30 Nov 2018 17:16:10
What is the point in buying all these players if we don't use them. Start Fabinho Keita n Shaq in midfield give Milner and Wij a rest they look knackered.


2.) 30 Nov 2018 17:44:33
He’s doing it right at the moment, bit of luck he’ll get a start and set the standard for everyone else.


3.) 30 Nov 2018 17:53:49
"What is the point of buying all these players if we don't use them. "

How long have you been following Liverpool?

Our best purchases over the years have tended to be players who we take time to settle in. Into our system, culture and even the country if they come from overseas.

These players have been with us for a few months - that's it.

Are you following their training every day, or talking to them every day to know how and if they have settled in?

Didn't think so.

Use a bit of common sense, !


4.) 30 Nov 2018 18:21:55
What does assuming how long someone has followed Liverpool as an argument point. I’ve followed the reds for 36 years but it doesn’t make me more knowledgable than someone who has followed for 26 years etc. And I guarantee no one on here follows training or talks to the players every day. So again can’t see how that is a point to beat someone for their opinion.


5.) 30 Nov 2018 18:32:44
Get off your high horse Zed. You Keep shouting at the TV I'll carry on supporting them from the Kop and in the away end
They're Top players, play them more!


6.) 30 Nov 2018 18:51:01
The reason I asked how long you have supported them for is because that's always been our way.

I'm referencing, for example, Rushie being brought in and hardly playing for a season or two.

That's been less prevalent in the last few years as we've not been at the top, therefore any new player has had to be played from day 1. However, we are (hopefully) building a capable squad and therefore have no need to throw players in as soon as we buy them. See how Robertson has improved since we bought him, and he sat on the sidelines for best part of half a season before claiming his (rightful) place.

If Klopp doesn't think the likes of Keita and Fab in particular are ready to play every single game, then so be it. Our midfield isn't bereft of other options, although I agree we weren't good on Wednesday, by a long way.

I'll ignore the pathetic OOTs vs locals jibe - I thought that whole nonsense had died a death in this day and age. I guess I'm wrong!


7.) 30 Nov 2018 19:10:09
And that's an excellent use of the word prevalent.
And I have no idea what that means other than your a complete Tit mate haha no offence.
Anyway enjoy your Prevelance Zed
Bring on the Toffees (that's Everton) YNWA.


8.) 30 Nov 2018 19:21:54
Zed I can see your point on why you refrenced asking how long to prove your point and it has been done on a few players in the past. But there’s also lots of players who have come in and not had it done to them. Vvd, Mane Allison and Salah just to name recent ones.


9.) 30 Nov 2018 19:23:45
OP, I don't get your question or maybe you are looking for a reaction. I don't recall Ox or Robbo starting games left, right and center when they first arrived and we all know what they have now become with LFC. Also, I may have sleep-walked through the past couple of games BUT I recall that Shaq has started 2 of the last 3 games in all comps so again, either you are looking for a reaction to whind people up or you are just not abreast with the current affairs at LFC.


10.) 30 Nov 2018 19:24:22
As far as i can tell, he used the word correctly. Maybe it's not used often on the kop.


11.) 30 Nov 2018 19:43:33
Prevalent = widespread 😉

Toffees = crap 😂

And the ‘how long you been supporting” was not meant as a jibe. I know a lot of the posters here are in their 20s - MK and Anon Woolback spring to mind - so they won’t remember the glory years when we had the luxury of introducing players over time rather than needing them in immediately.

Someone like VVD was needed immediately, as was Alisson (although GKs tend to be different) . Hopefully, with a more established line up, we can bring players through gradually and thereby ensure they perform better for the length of experience they’ve had in and around the club and training ground.

Although our midfield was ‘toffees’ on Wednesday, rotating between Milner, Hendo, Wiji, with Shaq on mainly as impact sub has treated us well so far in the EPL based on results, so I can see the logic in not rushing in Keita and Fab.

Fab has been getting a few more games recently, and Keita has come off the back of an injury as well.

Bottom line, I totally get the desire to see the newbies on the pitch, especially after such a ‘toffees’ display on Wednesday, but I want to make sure the newbies have the best possible chance of success and if Klopp reckons they’re not ready yet, whether it be fitness, pace of game or acclimatising to our way of play, then he’s the best placed to decide.

Saying all that, I’d love it if he reckoned they were ready enough to play Fab, Milner and Keita on Sunday, as I reckon, once they’re ready, that’s our best midfield until the six is fit again.

{Ed002's Note - Well Van Dyke had a nice long rest before joining as he was on strike after an illegal approach by Liverpool - so remember loyalty to a club means absolutely zero to him. You can make excuses for the likes of Keita but it will never get away from him being a nasty little item who few people like - including all of his ex colleagues in Germany. Other clubs buy players and get on with it. Liverpool, a club always in transition, buy players and they need a lengthy period of transition themselves. The repeated excuses are wearing thin - particularly given the success other managers and coaches have found without years and years of transition.}


12.) 30 Nov 2018 19:43:45
LiverpoolFC8

The reason we are sitting second in the league and unbeaten is because fabinho and keita haven't started every game. There are games this season where if our midfield 3 had had have been fabinho shiqiri and keita we would have been completly overrun.

Zed makes some good points. If they were completly ready they would be starting. Im pretty sure klopp didn't sanction 90 million to keep the bench warm. They will get their chances in the next month and hopefully be a bit further down the line tactically come the turn of the year.

But i don't go to away games and i can't spell all that good so ill go sit in the tit corner with Zed.


13.) 30 Nov 2018 19:47:03
But used often in Rugby?

{Ed025's Note - where an egg shaped ball is very prevalent..


14.) 30 Nov 2018 19:48:16
By the way, LiverpoolFC8, “better to remain silent and be thought a fool than speak and remove all doubt”

Wise words, “tit”!

{Ed025's Note - nice reposte zed..


15.) 30 Nov 2018 19:58:20
Haha Cheer up boys it's only a bit of Banter. Nothing but love for all my fellow Reds. Enjoy the game lads!
ILL have a 2nil win Zed what you reckon? Mane is due one.


16.) 30 Nov 2018 20:00:23
Shaq has to play on Sunday, he is the most creative of our midfield or forwards, its actually a no brainer,
Klopp does get his team selection right most of the time,
but not on Wednesday, should have started Gomez and Trent, I knew it would not work, Lovren is best against Prem players,
we should beat Everton, and get 2nd place in our group, but a lot rests on the teams that Klopp selects .


17.) 30 Nov 2018 20:07:45
Banter here too, all too prevalent on these boards! 😂

I already gave my prediction to Ed001 a bit further down - 8-0 with a hat trick each for Salah and Mane and 2 for Bobby. After all we’re only playing the craps, sorry Toffees!

{Ed025's Note - have your attackers score 8 goals this season zed?, oh no i forgot they are suffering from world cup burn out.. :)


18.) 30 Nov 2018 20:21:28
They’re due, my toffee mate!

Be afraid, be very afraid!

By the way, have the toffees got 8 goals yet this season 😉😂.

{Ed025's Note - ritchie has got nearly that himself zed, i fancy he might get us a pen on sunday as well, he does like falling down a bit mate.. :)


19.) 30 Nov 2018 20:24:37
What are you going, Ed025?
I haven’t seen anything of Everton this season myself but my dad reckons you could well get a draw on Sunday.

{Ed025's Note - we are doing quite well and progressing nicely juicer, but a hard game like this may have come a bit early for us mate..


20.) 30 Nov 2018 20:45:41
Ok, 8-1, esp as Richie is in my fantasy team now!

Actually, given he has just come into my fantasy team, that’s a cue for him to go on a goal drought! 😂😂.

{Ed025's Note - thats a lot fairer zed..


21.) 30 Nov 2018 20:03:48
Ed002, I didn’t mention transition, nor do I think we’re in transition now. I’m happy with the squad of players we have, happier than I have been in a long, long time. It makes perfect sense not to change an established, successful team every year, but to introduce changes gradually as the players you already have are at a suitable level.

In my lifetime, the successful teams have done just that - prime example being Man Utd during the 90s and 00s. Obviously, that tends to go hand in hand with having an established manager, other wise you do tend to have years of transition with different managers, with different styles of play, at the helm.

Hopefully Klopp can stay for years to come. That’s my wish, anyway.

{Ed002's Note - Everything is about excuses and extra time needed for new players and you want Klopp who has done nothing to stay for years to come. I don’t get it and neither does anyone else.}


22.) 30 Nov 2018 21:37:26
Nothing is about excuses, and yes I do want Klopp to stay for years to come.

You don’t get it, fair enough.

But I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who feels the same way.

Maybe it’s a Liverpool disease? I’m not looking for a cure 😀.


23.) 30 Nov 2018 21:52:32
Zeddicus, I get it.


24.) 30 Nov 2018 22:17:48
Ignore that mean old duffer, Zeddicus. He knows nothing of what it actually is to be a fan of football or a football team.

He looks at football like someone who could only see the matrix as code on a screen.


25.) 30 Nov 2018 23:42:56
Too right Zed, we all want Klopp to stay for years. we are going in the right direction. Any one who says otherwise is trolling or just looking for an argument.


26.) 30 Nov 2018 22:37:39
Ed002 .
Players do need time to settle and earn their place in the side, that was always the way with Liverpool under Shanks and Paisley.

And why shouldn’t Klopp be given time? Ferguson needed three years to win a trophy and didn’t win a league title until the 92/ 93 season, he joined in 86.I remember going to old Trafford and seeing Fergie out banners back in the late 80’s.

He was given huge funds by their chairman at time, Martin Edwards in order to “ knock Liverpool of their perch” . Along with the floatation in 91, they were like the Chelsea and city of todays game.

So let’s not stick with klopp and sack him because it’s the “ trigger happy way” in the modern game. Then
approach who? Mourinho? No thanks.

I’m off to bed.

{Ed002's Note - It certainly didn't take time under Paisley for Liverpool to start achieving, but I get it - the Liverpool way, transition.}


27.) 30 Nov 2018 22:47:43
Ed02 you come across like you really hate Liverpool and their supporters. who do you support may I ask. ? Absolutely love you’re opinion and input. peace out ✌️.

{Ed002's Note - What sort of moron are you? What have I said that is incorrect or hateful?}


28.) 01 Dec 2018 07:31:58
Klopp will need to start winning things if he is going to stay for years and years.

In answer to the original post I’d say “impress in training”. That’s always been vital to Klopp, he places great importance to training.
He may not be starting for tactical reasons. However, I don’t think Shaq should need a lot of time settling in, he’s lived in this country for many years now, the premier league is not new to him. I think he was always bought to be another option for the first team rather than a regular starter.

Keita and Fabinho will be fine 👍.


29.) 01 Dec 2018 07:33:40
Morning ED002.

Paisley inherited a pretty decent group of players to start with, so it’s difficult to compare in that instance.

If you remember Ed002, under Moore’s and Parry ( recent times ) Liverpool were held back massively and especially under the previous two American clowns.

Every team makes mistakes in the transfer market but when you have clubs backed with extreme wealth - City, Chelsea and united for expample, those bad buys could be just swept to one side. We’ve not been given this amount of significant funds in a long long time.

So you say Liverpool a transition team, you’re correct because we’ve not had a sheik or an oil tycoon as owners.

{Ed002's Note -

I remember the situation well, it was you trying to use Paisley as a feeble excuse for the Liverpool players needing a period of transition. Liverpool have not been held back - all of the managers have had money to spend. This constant blaming of the owners is an absolute joke. And now the excuse is everyone else is backe with “extreme wealth”. Pitiful I am afraid.}


30.) 01 Dec 2018 08:06:06
Good to see you up and about this morning!

We were held back Ed002, sorry I totally disagree. Moore’s and Parry thought they could just take liverpool through by standing still, whilst United moved forward under Martin Edwards. They floated on the stock exchange in 91 in order to fund their stadium expansion and invest in the team, the same in 96. Just look at their commercial deals, this didn’t happen over night.

I’ll give you one example regarding transfers, Liverpool’s scouts first identified Cristiano Ronaldo but wouldn’t pay the £12m.

You talk about blaming the owners being a joke ? Gillet and Hicks nearly sent the club into ablivion! I agree, hilarious

As for the other clubs, I’m pointing out the fact and I feel this topic gets under your skin. Chelsea hadn’t won a league title for 50 years before the extreme wealth, the same with City.

You’ve seen enough of my posts to know I really like our current owners .

{Ed002's Note - There are numerous players scouts have seen and clubs have turned down. There are no topics related to Chelsea and Manchester City that get under my skin. I am up and about as I am currently sat on a plane being pushed back from Gate B34 at Heathrow. At least I should have WiFi en route. You need to look at Liverpool subjectively and not constantly look for excuses and blame everyone else.}


31.) 01 Dec 2018 10:34:52
Hope your’re off somewhere nice! Well I’m just back from football with my 4 year old son - won his first football trophy!

After following Liverpool for over 35 years, through the good and the bad times, the one thing I do, is look at my team/ club subjectively, I’ve had to.

All this talk of blame etc is just nonsense.

{Ed002's Note - I am two thirds of the way to Tel Aviv thanks.}


32.) 01 Dec 2018 10:50:48
Ed02, Having read this thread, can you tell us exactly what you would do regarding Klopp if he fails to win a trophy this season.
1 poster did correctly point out that it took Alex Ferguson 6 years before winning the premier league.
Then you have Antonio Conte who won it with Chelsea in his first season. Yet they are both successful managers.
You have correctly stated Klopp has won nothing for years, while us fans state he has overseen enormous improvements at Liverpool.
You are never that complimentary about Klopp, so it would be interesting to read a detailed constructive argument from you as to why you think Klopp is not the long term answer for Liverpool, and who or what Liverpool should turn to, in order to reach the next level. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - The reason I am not often complimentary about Klopp is he is a cheat and a liar. Constant illegal approaches for players by him have cost Liverpool many, many millions of pounds. He lied to the board to get a work permit for Grujic - he also lied to the player. He lied to Solanke - his career has been disrupted. He made massive mistakes and a real mess of the goalkeeping situation. He is arrogant and made an ass of himself as recently as Wednesday - I was in Milan then and many of those present that evening were happily laughing at him. He put Buvac in the situation that he felt he had to resign and now he is struggling to adjust tactically. He might be all pleasant and smiling but his promises at bringing success to Liverpool without spending money went out the window as the club is desparately looking to buy success now. Whilst he has the team playing well on occasion they are not doing it consistently. The fans can see no wrong of course and use the excuses of the team being in transition, Klopp needing time, the players now need a period of transition to settle in, remember Ferguson did not win the league for 6 years, yadda, yadda, yadda. There is constant bleating about how bad the owners are - it just goes on.}


33.) 01 Dec 2018 15:13:10
Safe journey Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks Drogie, safely in the lounge of the hotel awaiting the end of Shabbat - which should be soon. Then the restaurants open. Have a good day.}


34.) 01 Dec 2018 17:13:36
Thanks Edo2, for a very interesting, informative reply. When reading, it does not reflect well on Klopp does it. That is a significant list of misdemeanors. It is true that the fans only see a happy, jolly Klopp in the media.
Clearly not everything is as it seems. That is a long list of mistakes and obviously he has annoyed a lot of people along the way with those antics.
Nobody should ever criticize the owners, they have spent a fortune improving the squad, stadium etc, but no matter what they do, some fans will complain if Liverpool do not spend as much as Man City, PSG etc.

I think you should post your answer regarding Klopp as a new article so it gets more views. You have explained clearly why Klopp is not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy.

{Ed002's Note - It is the situation sadly. He needs to break out of this constant tapping up of players, he needs to stop making promises to players in order to get them to sign. Unfortunately many still see the owners as an issue but you are right, folks will moan about the spending still.}


35.) 01 Dec 2018 19:20:06
Ed02, I have read dozens of articles about Klopp in quality newspapers (not red top tabloids) and decent football magazines (not click bait websites) . Not one of those articles has been remotely as critical about Klopp as you are. Why do you think that is?

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what a "quality newspaper" is in this respect. Where do they contradict what I have said? Have they said he isn't a cheat with his repeated tapping up of players? Have they said he hasn't cost Liverpool millions and millions of punds as a result of this? Wow. Have they said that he did not lie to get Grujic a WP, or point out that Grujic has been playing regularly ever since? Did they say he told the truth when promising first team playing time to Grujic and Solanke? I am slightly confused as to why you would give any sort of credence to the the dozens of articles you have read over what I have said. Perhaps if you could start by explaining where they have contradicted me and give me the details? I am absolutely intrigued about your post. If you can provide the dates of all of these contradictions that would help me - maybe I could get some of these hot shot journalists you are such a fan of to come along to the site to discuss it with me? Or maybe you are just another Johnny Jerkoff looking for feeble excuses to defend the coach from the truth?}


36.) 01 Dec 2018 19:55:57
Ed02, I have not read a single article in which Klopp has been called a liar or a cheat. But I am not necessarily giving credence to all those articles over what you have alleged about Klopp, I am just interested in why you think your characterisation of Klopp is so different from the many football journalists who have written articles about him. Is there something personal behind your attacks on Klopp?

{Ed002's Note - So do you think that making illegal approaches to players contracted to other clubs is not an attempt at cheating? Do you not think that telling lies to the Work Permit board about Grujic and telling lies to players to attract them to the club is lying?}


37.) 01 Dec 2018 23:37:44
Ed’s, was there something in my reply which made it unsuitable for publication? Surely not, after all I didn’t resort to personal abuse such as ‘Johnny Jerkoff’ (not nice) . Or perhaps it has just got lost on the ether? What I wrote was :
Ed02, I have never read a single article in which Klopp was characterised as a liar or a cheat. But I do not necessarily give the football journalists who wrote those articles credence over you. I am simply interested in why there is such a difference between their views of Klopp and yours. Is there something personal behind your attacks on Klopp?

{Ed002's Note - I answered your comment as soon as I saw it. And yes you are being a complete jerk.}


38.) 02 Dec 2018 09:21:30
Ed02, thanks for the reply and apologies for my impatience. I will set your views of Klopp alongside those of others who are also much better informed than me before reaching a conclusion as to his character. Enjoy your stay in Israel, one of my favorite countries in the world.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks WW, at least the weather here in Israel is pleasant today.}


39.) 03 Dec 2018 13:22:10
I understand and agree with some of Ed2's points. But you also have to look at the positives. Klopp has got us playing more consistently in the league. This is out best start for god knows how many years. He has had to fold on the financial aspect of buying players but he doesn't decide the fees. The two European finals he has got us two have been lost due to individual errors, kariius and moreno. Both players have now been replaced 1 in particular at great cost. So far appears to be a great investment.

We have since buvac left began with a more measured and unfortunately less exciting approach however I believe this is 100% more sustainable over an entire season and could ultimately lead to more success. I think it's too soon to put this solely down to his departure, as I'm not sure what lead to it He seems to have a good rapport with the players.

In regards to solanke and grujic fully agree that this was a mistake and one he should learn from. Tapping up players is totally unacceptable and meant we had to issue an embarrassing apology in 1 case. This should have meant the club have give him a very stern warning. The goalkeeping situation was messy and has now been resolved.

All in all klopp is far from perfect but he has improved us year on year and as long as the fans have hope that he can bring success I for do, he will stay. We are currently competing against one of the best teams in the premier League era and aren't far off, 1 game away from qualification to he last 16 for the seconds consecutive year from a really tough group. There have been bad moments but I'm hoping he has learnt from his mistakes and we can bring a trophy back.


 

 

21 Nov 2018 17:46:30
i will be really disappointed if we don't sign atleast 4 players.

niinja123

1.) 21 Nov 2018 18:17:56
We need to get rid of Glen Johnson.


2.) 21 Nov 2018 18:55:53
Why not 8 players, OP?


3.) 21 Nov 2018 20:17:15
8 is too much of a change in one window.


4.) 21 Nov 2018 20:24:07
I'd be disappointed if we don't get rid of atleast 4. Imo that's what the next 2 windows will be all about, getting rid of the lads who are sat there doing bugger all. I'm not saying we aren't going to sign anybody, I'm sure we'll sign a couple but the most important thing is getting rid of the players like Clyne, Migs, Grujic etc.


5.) 22 Nov 2018 07:18:55
When I read this post I thought "I must have had a really long nap and woke up at the end of December. " It's still November lads, what are you talking about?


6.) 22 Nov 2018 12:44:25
Ninja be prepared to be very disappointed.


 

 

12 Nov 2018 15:22:43
Next game Watford away,

Shaqiri starts, Yes or No?
Discuss.

niinja123

1.) 12 Nov 2018 15:49:27
More than Shaqiri, I would like to see the 4-2-3-1. Although they may be doing well thus far, Watford is still a mid table team for me, and will be on the defensive. I am intrigued by a Hendo-Fabinho-Keita midfield however, and would like to see it at some point during the season (preferably against lesser opponents) . Have Hendo and Fabinho in the double 6 roles, and place Keita a step above them and give him some freedom to show what he can really do in this side.


2.) 12 Nov 2018 17:06:10
ArAy1969, i would not sleep on Watford if I were you. Those guys are pretty good and their midfield is quite physical. They do a play an attacking style BUT believe me, they are not to be messed with. We need to approach games with a determination that knows no bounds. We respect the oppo., remain humble and go earn the right to compete and win. Just my opinion.


3.) 12 Nov 2018 17:48:36
Evening gents I wouldn't start with Shaq, I think the front 3 are couple of games away from clicking. Watford will give us a sterner test in midfield than Fulham, so hopefully Hendo is back.
I would like us to break the bank and buy a top striker to give the guys up front some competition though.

{Ed025's Note - its 12 games in janmo, if they dont start clicking soon the season will be over mate..


4.) 12 Nov 2018 18:03:10
I’d play same team as Fulham game except I’d replace win and Fabinho. Keita and Henderson / Milner. Presuming they come back from international with clean bill of health.

{Ed002's Note - So not the same team then?}


5.) 12 Nov 2018 18:13:53
I'd start Shaqiri, Watford have been solid but that's exactly why I'd prefer the added creativity.

If not Shaqiri, Keita would be my first choice to replace him.


6.) 12 Nov 2018 18:03:43
Fair comment Ed025 but we don't seem to be doing that bad considering we've not really played consistently well yet this season. The problem is if the front 3 are fit they play in form or not. Shaq is a good addition but he's not good enough yet to keep them out of the side. Sturridge isn't going to put pressure on either.

{Ed025's Note - doing very well i would say janmo, the one thing i will say is the team does not seem as sharp as last season and the play seems a lot slower..


7.) 12 Nov 2018 19:37:34
Shaq should play in midfield. He can unlock a defence and is genuine goal threat, better than the others for me he should start.


8.) 12 Nov 2018 19:48:03
I think he has done more than enough, to start matches now. Has the potential to be purchase of the season concidering the costs of getting him.


9.) 12 Nov 2018 21:09:09
I definitely wouldn’t start with Shaqiri at Watford. Too robust and tight, they carry a threat up front. But a great substitute to bring on with 30 to go maybe.
I have a feeling the starting midfield could be Henderson, Milner and Gini.
Keita A’s first midfield change.

If we’re chasing a goal, then obviously Shaqiri will get a run out.
Been impressed with him though, good attitude and team ethic so far.
Very good technique too. Better centrally for me.


10.) 12 Nov 2018 21:16:35
Point well taken Brover. In my defence I will only say that I don't watch every Watford game, aside from the off game here or there in a season. However, my choice of the 4-2-3-1 coincides with your intention of showing determination and aggresion, which I fully agree with. It's our most offensive setup to start off games, and also the one where our approach/ pace seems a tiny tad quicker. And with our record of surprise draws and defeats against lower table teams in recent years (of which I have seen every game) I am the last person to not take every EPL team seriously.

I also think that it's this formation that could drive the whole team to regain some of the "form" we seem to have lost. Ed025 is absolutely right. We're 12 games into the season. If not now then when?


11.) 12 Nov 2018 21:40:15
Third of the season gone so it is time to kick on. Shaqiri has to start he is the one player (atm) who can unlock defences from deep. He deserves his place ahead of Firmino who needs a kick up the arse. Salah and Mane up front with Shaqiri playing behind them.


 

 

27 Oct 2018 19:04:03
how does lallana start ahead of shaq is beyond my understanding.

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1.) 27 Oct 2018 19:14:51
It’s called rotation mate.


2.) 27 Oct 2018 19:39:02
I thought lallana did okay today, he has also been at this club for years whereas shaq has been here for a few months. They are different players but I really think there is room for them both.

Also you don't have to start your best players every game. I think shaq is very effective against a tired opposition. He has been great so far though, he looks a different person, let alone player. He suits a Liverpool shirt.

For me, atm, he would start in my best Liverpool 11

Alisson
Taa
Gomez
Vvd
Robbo

Gini
Kieta
Shaqiri

Mane
Firmino
Salah

That said, shaq has performed better with fabinho behind him.


3.) 27 Oct 2018 19:47:58
I mean. If you actually listened to the manager, you would know why. He explained why shaq was on the bench today in his post match.
But sure, let’s bitch and moan after our most dominate performance of the season 👍🏻.


4.) 27 Oct 2018 20:31:58
It pains me to write it but I think the team may have developed to the point where Lallana has been left behind. He seems to need too many touches and slows things down unnecessarily. I hope I’m wrong and he is just finding his way back after such a long time out because I really like him as an attacking midfielder.
Fabinho and Wijnaldum in tandem were immense again today. Klopp has a real headache selecting his midfielders from the riches on offer - those two, Hendo, Milliie, Shaq, Keita, Lallana, The Ox (when fit) .
By the way, the referee was awful today. To their credit, Cardiff didn’t kick lumps off us or waste time as I predicted in an earlier post today but they did manhandle Mo to an extraordinary degree and the referee refused to penalise them. The worst example was in the first half when he refused Mo a blatant penalty when he was hauled down in the box. Incompetent or something more sinister? I wonder.


5.) 27 Oct 2018 20:34:52
I agree. He was taken off after 60 mins on Wednesday after arguably a man of the match performance. He should have been rewarded with starting today. And what a difference he made when he came on! He could absolutely fill the Coutinho hole. He’s strong, direct and quick. Lallana is just too slow. He won’t lose the ball but he’ll do at least one Cruyff turn every time it comes to him. I feel sorry for him as injuries have really hampered his time here. And now with Fabinho, Keita, Milner, Wijnaldum, Shaqiri and Henderson, he’s 7th choice. And that’s not including the Ox. I’d be surprised if he stays much longer at the vlib.


6.) 27 Oct 2018 21:06:47
Lallana needs minutes to bring his sharpness back. It will be beneficial for us in the long run to have another starting caliber player fit and available.


7.) 27 Oct 2018 21:43:02
Wirral, regrettably I have to agree with you. I wish it weren’t the case.


8.) 27 Oct 2018 23:46:42
Spot on, Stone and Wirral. The team Lallana thrived in in 16/ 17 no longer exists. This team has left that team behind and has developed nicely W/ O Lallana being part of its metamorphosis. Therefore, he is playing catch-up and is massively lagging behind. Will he come up to speed? I don't know cos every week, this team gets better and better and if that keeps happening, Lallana will NEVER catch hence, will be of no use to us.


9.) 28 Oct 2018 00:43:12
Two things

How good has Salah been without milner running around the pitch playing in the void Salah would - Milner wasnt there last year and salah started banging them in

Also lallana is fancy footwork no end product, id play others that can't get game time, but we all know its politics and he wants to put lallana for sale in the jan window but it should not be at the expense of dropping points

basically lallana and milner should not be in the first time.


10.) 28 Oct 2018 01:48:54
Yeah agreed rb, good observation.


11.) 28 Oct 2018 03:57:12
Lallana is basically too slow, both in terms of actual speed and in terms of speed of thought, and just doesn't suit our style. If we were looking for a player who can operate in the CAM/ LM/ RM position as a back-up we may as well recall Harry Wilson as he has looked good for Derby, has a lot of energy about his play, and is certainly no worse than Lallana at this point in time.

Have to say as well, as I have criticised Gini when he hasn't performed, that he is probably playing as consistently well as I have ever seen at the moment. Fair play to the lad and long may it continue.


12.) 28 Oct 2018 08:59:26
Lallana hasn’t had chance to prove himself.

Let’s judge him once he’s match fit and had a dozen games.


13.) 28 Oct 2018 10:11:14
Agreed, Ron. Let's see what happens. he may end up surprising me the same way Ox, Robbo and Shaq is currently doing and long (re: Shaq) may it continue.


14.) 28 Oct 2018 19:40:52
I think Lallana will fill a gap in the squad whilst Ox is out of action. He’s not a regular starter, just like Shaq is not a regular starter, but they are both decent coming off the bench. Both techinically gifted, both can hold on to the ball to slow the pace of the game down. Shaq is gifted on set pieces too.
Klopp has got a good squad together and he’s using it very well so far 🤝.


 

 

19 Aug 2018 14:33:31
Watching citeh right now, how good is David Silva?

#GOAT.

niinja123

1.) 19 Aug 2018 14:51:36
Not quite Liverpool related, but fair enough. Silva is a genius, but the greatest of all time? At what? Maybe Manchester City’s greatest ever player, but that’s it.


2.) 19 Aug 2018 15:07:08
One of the greatest premier league footballers!


3.) 19 Aug 2018 15:18:31
Seeing as there is a man city thread, can anyone shed light on Sane? I thought he would be a mainstay in the side with him not going to the world cup? Or is it just pep switching his options. Just seems weird he hasn't started either game.


4.) 19 Aug 2018 15:43:14
My word City are breathtaking. Even when up by 3 or 4 goals they are relentless going forward. They just don't seem to take their foot off the gas.

Not many teams can beat them. We have the energy and pace to press and counterattack them but who else can? United beat them by defending deep and nicking goals off set pieces/ crosses. Hard to see how and where else they'll drop points this season.

I'm still confident in our squad and believe we can give it a good go.


5.) 19 Aug 2018 19:39:33
Great player, not in the top 20 greatest ever players though.


6.) 19 Aug 2018 20:59:39
Ron, not even in the top 30. Great little player tho, no question.


 

 

 

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Eamonsf, yes you are correct i had no clue about him before I saw him in the world cup.
Also, his wc performances were crap for a RB, somehow he and france survived the belgian onslaught.

Hence, the analysis that he is overrated based on what I saw in wc.

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My midfield would be Shaq, milner, gini.
Shaq is the missing link between the midfield and the front 3.

with Keita coming on as a sub.

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