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11 Mar 2018 19:47:46
Away from the "we suck - no you suck for saying we suck" daily grind, this is one for ED001. I was speaking to an old friend of my dad's over the weekend, who used to have strong ties with the club. He was telling me an anecdote about Phil Thompson. He said that as a young player, he had such a love for playing the game that, even after he signed professional terms for the club, he used to try and play with the local amateur teams as often as he could, playing with boys he grew up with, and that the club actually had to tell him to stop. I only know Thommo the pundit as he was before my time, but it was nice to hear about his love of football. Can't imagine too many youngsters these days doing that, too much money for youngers see them think of football as their career at an age where they should be playing just cuz they love playing.

He also told me he's good friends with Stevie Mac's dad, and that Macca is a really good lad and has looked after his dad after his mum died etc.

I could have talked to him all weekend, but unfortunately, as it was a big family event we were at, I had to spread myself about and didn't get as much time with him as i would have liked, but it was so cool to chat to someone with real connections to Liverpool of the past.

He's also the reason my dad has a signed '77 European Cup winning team ball, so he was already pretty high in my estimations!

I don't really have a reason for this post, but as I don't know too many Liverpool supporters up here, i wanted to share. So to make it open to everyone, feel free to share your anecdotes about current or past players, or anyone you know with links to the club who you just love listening to. Weekend's done, let's change the subject lads.

Rugby Parker

{Ed001's Note - actually most kids would play more but they are usually banned in the contract they have to sign to get in the youth academy. It usually limits their activities to a ridiculous amount.}


1.) 12 Mar 2018 00:05:11
Thanks for the post - nice to read this kind of stuff rather than the recriminations that come after every defeat.


2.) 12 Mar 2018 05:07:02
Ed001, what are your views on the professional clubs in England limiting the playing time of the youngsters in that way?

It seems like a lot of the world class talents (Messi, Suarez, Ronaldo) all crafted their skill from playing hundreds and hundreds of hours of football in the streets as a kid - surely the English clubs can take a lesson from this or are they fearful that they may get injured while not playing for the club?

Red Sandman.

{Ed001's Note - they are fearful of injuries but it is a huge mistake. The best sportspeople around the world have usually played a large number of sports in their youth which has aided their development. Johan Cruyff and Michael Jordan were both excellent baseball players before giving it up to concentrate on their chosen sport, Steve McManaman was an excellent cross-country runner, Thibaut Courtois was very good at handball and there are many, many others. Kids learn best through play and they can learn so much by taking part in other sports.

Kids get so little time to play outside these days, they are so often playing video games, so much so that Man Utd's academy has had to develop courses in basic things we all used to learn when we were children. Even silly things like how to fall without hurting yourself, we all learnt from falling out of trees or similar, they are now having to give classes in it. Anything they do which does not involve sitting on their backside should be encouraged.

If they are fearful of the environment in which those other sports and games take place, then the academies should organise themselves to provide the outlet for them. The problem is that there is still too little done in English football with regards to personal development and coaching with anything other than old school beliefs. England is always reactionary, that is why it gets behind the times in terms of new developments in the sport and then has to catch up.

There is still a lot of catching up to be done in terms of coaching, there are still not enough coaches around. As Johan Cruyff said, you would see 3 different coaches as a golfer, one player, 3 coaches, but in football you can have 25 players being coached by one man. It is ridiculous. Players are individuals and should have a lot more one-on-one coaching sessions. Cruyff would find the time to do them when he was in management why, with all the money available, do English clubs not do the same?}


 

 

04 Mar 2017 16:48:16
Question for Ed001, if he would have a rough idea.

The reason i started supporting Liverpool as a kid is because, before I was born, my dad was in a serious car accident, just before him and my mum were due to get married. Long story short, his story was featured in newspapers and a liverpool-supporting stranger was so moved by the story that he drove from Liverpool to Kilmarnock with a football signed by the entire 1977 European Cup Winning team. He showed me it when i was about 10, and it was the first bit of football memorabilia I had ever seen, and I was fascinated. From then on, I was red through and through.

Anyway, I hadn't seen it for years, and just assumed I had either imagined it, or it had been lost or damaged or something, but it turns out it's still safe and sound in my dad's possession, and will be passed to me when he dies. Now, i have NO intention of selling it, ever (for what it means to my dad, and as something i'll pass to my daughter, who i'm raising a red), but i've tried to have a look online to value it, and couldn't really find anything similar. Would you know how much something like that would be worth? It'll always have far more sentimental value than it would ever be worth in £, but I can't help being curious.

Cheers either way Ed.

Rugby Parker

{Ed001's Note - the only way something like that would ever be sold is via auctions. There is a database of auction prices, but you used to have to pay to access it, which would be the best way to get an idea. The best bet would be to speak to an auction house which have sports memorabilia sales, and ask for a valuation. Those kind of things are sold at specialist auctions, as that is how you get the best value for them.}


1.) 04 Mar 2017 17:07:04
Cheers Ed, much appreciated. No point in me looking into it through auction houses, as it'll never leave this family as long as I live and breathe, was just curious as the only things I found online were like replica shirts that were signed years after the event.

Just have to make sure I raise the girls right, and they hold on to it. it's as good a way as any to get later generations to be Liverpool fans!

Thanks again, appreciate you taking the time out to reply.

{Ed001's Note - things like that were very few and far between back then, so it would be worth more than a shirt or similar, I would think. My cousin works at an auction house in Liverpool, he might have an idea. I will ask him for you.}


2.) 04 Mar 2017 17:38:45
If it's easy enough for you Ed, that would be great, but don't go to any trouble. probably better if the kids don't know how much it's worth!

{Ed001's Note - I will text him after the match, if we win, if not it will have to wait a few days as he is a Toffee and I will get nothing but stick if I message him when we have lost.}


3.) 04 Mar 2017 19:54:09
I know the feeling Ed! Ironically my dad is a Toffee too (despite the whole story above! ) . If I ever miss a game for any reason, I know Liverpool have lost if I get a text from him around the final whistle.

But HEY! We won, so go revel in telling your cousin!

And thanks again man, that's well above-and-beyond.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, good to have an excuse to talk to family.}


 

 

01 Oct 2016 16:52:33
Saw James Milner was interviewed after the game, but couldn't hear it. Did they mention what his run of games is at now for Scoring and winning? I know he was a few behind Vassell the last time i heard, but that was before Hull and Today. Anybody any idea?

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1.) 01 Oct 2016 16:59:04
I think it's 3 games in a row.


2.) 01 Oct 2016 18:08:30
I'm sure motd said he's only one or two behind.


3.) 01 Oct 2016 18:11:49
Sorry Gotklopp, didn't mean consecutive games. I'm fairly sure Darius Vassell holds the record for like 60-odd games in a row where he scored and his team won that particular game. Unless I missed one fairly recently where Milner scored and we lost, Milner will now only be a couple of games behind.

Anyone confirm?


4.) 01 Oct 2016 18:31:10
Cheers Fencey, much appreciated. Tried to find it on google, but "James Milner score win" isn't the most elegant of google searches!


5.) 01 Oct 2016 21:00:01
It's 44 games where Milner scores and his team wins.


 

 

20 Aug 2014 13:47:10
Just read the interview with Markovic on ssn website, seems like a very mature head on young shoulders. Really looking forward to seeing him in the team soon.

Rugby Parker

1.) 20 Aug 2014 13:58:16
Yes, He looked very matured in the interview


2.) 20 Aug 2014 14:54:00
Fancy sending him a love letter Harry?


3.) Whose to say Harry hasn't been singing sweet nothings into the lads ear already? lol


 

 

11 May 2014 14:38:30
Just wanna say, whatever happens today, it's been a cracking season, enjoyed the ride, and it's already been a huge success. Thanks to all the eds and regular posters for being the perfect foil for an enjoyable year of football, and let's hope even the most negative of posters can find something to be happy about when the curtain comes down.

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11 Jul 2018 13:45:31
I think we just have to wait and see guys. I'm not overly impressed with his career to date, but if he becomes a Liverpool player, he'll have my full support until he proves that support is unwarranted.

Don't think it's a financially risky deal (assuming a decent resale value if things don't work out), I can't see the club taking the risk if they think he's doomed to failure, and there is a player in there no doubt. It could turn out badly, but since nobody has ever seen "Shaqiri the Liverpool player" play, I don't see the point in getting upset about this transfer.

He'll prove one set of fans wrong one way or another, and for the sake of LFC, I hope it's the ones who don't want him.

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20 Jun 2018 13:31:08
I'd imagine Lazio may see him as a Milinkovic-Savic replacement, being of a similar position and build. I reckon he'll have a really good career, just not at Liverpool for whatever reason. Good luck to him.

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16 Jun 2018 22:16:25
I love the bluebird!

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06 Jun 2018 13:27:14
Couldn't have put it better myself Ron, I echo your sentiments.

The only reason I can possibly see for anyone getting annoyed about this (and I mean posters; it's fairly obvious why Macca and Ed002 would get annoyed about it! ) is if someone reads a rumour on here, rushes out and tells all his mates, puts bets on, gets a shirt with a name on the back printed on it, and then it doesn't come off and they look like an idiot. but to be honest, if that is what you do, you look like an idiot whether they sign or not.

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27 Jul 2017 17:59:48
People are losing their minds here. I love coutinho, but 120m would be more than a fair price for him. That would buy 3 players, admittedly the coutinho replacement wouldn't be quite as good, but the other 2 could displace players that aren't quite up to it. A great cd, a right back more suited than clyne, and a slight downgrade on coutinho would improve the team overall, and that's all i care about.

I'd hate to see him go, i really would, but we'd all move on and come through the other side a more complete team if it happened.

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19 Jul 2018 15:55:33
Win some, lose some Macca, never disappointing to hear from you.

Just looking at the replies to this thread though, you can see why Ed002 gets the rage sometimes. he can literally state fact and get abuse for it, and yet Macca admitting he got one wrong gets a round of "you're number 1!"'s.

I wish we could all just be thankful that we have such knowledgeable people willing to spend the time to try and keep us informed when there's news to be told (that goes for all the Eds, Macca, and any poster who's ever genuinely posted knowledge that others aren't privy to) .

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19 Jul 2018 15:39:34
If he parries a shot into the danger area that a lesser keeper wouldn't even get to, that's got to be a good thing. I'd rather give the defenders a chance to clear it than definitely concede. Not saying that'll be the case with ALL the youtube saves you may have seen (lets face it, we've ALL youtubed him), but I would suggest that some of his parries save certain goals, so i'll take that.

He's most definitely the best goalkeeper we could have signed for our style of play. Not saying he's the greatest in the world, but of the handful better than him, some would never sign (De Gea, Courtois), and some play in a completely different style of team to us (Oblak) .

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19 Jul 2018 12:55:50
I can't claim to know one way or another for sure, but I would assume that the "payment structure" will have nothing to do with actually not paying X amount if he gets injured. I would be surprised if such a deal is in any way commonplace. why would the selling club ever agree to it? "We'll agree to give you X, but if he gets injured after leaving your club, we'll give you X-Y, deal? ", "No. give us X and then he's your problem".

My guess is that, if the medical results have anything to do with the decision to change payment terms, it would more likely be a case of "we'd much prefer to space out payments, and we'll try and use previous injury as a reason to get you to agree to it".

Could be totally wrong, but I just don't see many selling clubs ever going for a deal where you could potentially lose money by an ex player getting injured at his new club.

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18 Jul 2018 13:40:47
I'll never have anything but respect and admiration for Lucas, he's up there with Dirk Kuyt as unsung Liverpool legends of recent times.

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14 Jul 2018 23:08:40
Awesome to hear, hope he continues to improve.

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