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01 Feb 2020 22:30:40
I don’t know if anyone else has noticed (or cares) but on 1 February, with 73 points and with the 5th placed team (Sheffield United) on 36 points, we only need 3 more points to qualify for next season’s Champions League. Just saying.

Wirral Wonder

1.) 02 Feb 2020 00:27:43
Wowwwwwwwwwww.


2.) 02 Feb 2020 00:38:09
Let’s hope we can’t scrape over the line 😂.


3.) 02 Feb 2020 01:07:26
Crazy ww. We've waited a long time but the boys are making it a goodun for us.


4.) 02 Feb 2020 09:13:44
It's actually insane how we've only dropped 2 points so far this season, it makes my brain melt.
But we do have a tough run at the back end of the season.


5.) 02 Feb 2020 10:17:22
Stinks that Man U can claim to be the only team to rob us of those two points .

{Ed047's Note - you shouldn’t have mucked about for over half the game then


6.) 02 Feb 2020 11:58:46
United will look back on this season as the one when they managed to take 2 points from one of the PLs greatest teams. They might even have the achievement certified and placed in their trophy cabinet.


7.) 02 Feb 2020 12:04:36
If that's all they can claim then that suits me, we're steamrolling our way to the league title and they don't even get a 2 second thought tbh.


 

 

29 Jan 2020 13:07:53
Amid all the media nonsense about Klopp and LFC “disrespecting the FA Cup” how about this - the date and time of the Shrewsbury replay has not been decided yet as the FA themselves cannot agree with the BBC and BT Sport when the game should be played. Bad enough for Liverpool supporters but what about the 8,000 Shrewsbury fans who need to take time off work, make travel arrangements, etc? Just who is “disrespecting the FA Cup” and ignoring the needs of fans here?

Wirral Wonder

1.) 29 Jan 2020 13:22:36
well said WW, but your forgetting its money first and football supporters a very distant second.


2.) 29 Jan 2020 14:29:24
The details of the replay have just been announced - Tuesday 4 February 2020, 1945 kick off. The power of the Liverpool Rumours website, eh?


3.) 29 Jan 2020 17:06:15
Don't see what the issue is TBH. Shrewsbury now have a great chance to progress and get another game at Chelsea. It feels like a winning situation for them really. I'm happy with Klopp's position on this, our priority has to be winning the league after 30 years without it! I know some fans might disagree, it's a free planet and all that.


4.) 29 Jan 2020 18:18:51
Well said wirral. I feel its getting boring but if the actual time of the kick off has only just been decided, I guess there is still room for debate.

I think wirral's comments have just put all the naysayers in their place.

The youth are getting a run out in front of the cameras, like we are always saying they should. And now it's happening, people are against it. Well some.

I'm looking forward to seeing what they can do. And if they're going to stand a chance they will need THEIR coach. If klopp was there it would be fake. I'm glad he has the bottle to break the precedence and push to make this winter break work. We should all be backing him 100% because lfc are in an amazing position. We are so close to winning the league, we don't want a load of muscle injuries now. Mane was a warning and I think it shows the super klopp is 100% absolutely spot on the money. I love him. Honest, trail blazing, serial winner. And he's ours. How effing lucky.


5.) 29 Jan 2020 18:41:37
And we are still in it. We can still win the fa Cup. There's no reason why we can't.

If you had to put a bet on shrewsbury or the U21s who would your money be on? Mine would be on the home team. This is going to give them a taste of first team footy at home in front of a full house. Klopp can't win. Gets slated for not giving the youth game time and gets slated when he does. Joke.


6.) 29 Jan 2020 19:37:36
Robbuesline. It has been announced the BBC and BT Sports are not showing the game, so no cameras.


7.) 29 Jan 2020 23:14:18
There'll be cameras surely. It'll be streamable I think.


 

 

30 Apr 2019 22:17:05
Yesterday a poster on the Rumours page asked about any Liverpool interest in Ziyech of Ajax. Ed002 explained that Liverpool had shown interest a couple of years ago but he comes with baggage and perhaps is not what the club want. I just watched the Spurs v Ajax game and I thought Ziyech was the best attacking player on the pitch. Based only on this match, it seems a pity that we ended our interest - no doubt for good reasons.

Wirral Wonder

1.) 30 Apr 2019 22:44:29
WW I have watched him a few times and today was just a normal game for him, he looks quality. Van de Beek looks quality too IMO.

I like Brandt but want us to get the very best we can and maybe Ziyech is better. Is it Shaq baggage or Balotelli baggage?


2.) 30 Apr 2019 23:12:54
markp08, it’s good that to hear that I am not suffering from a case of ‘MOTD fever’. Ed002 didn’t say what type or weight of baggage Ziyech comes with - anything you can enlighten us about without falling foul of the libel laws Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - It is of no consequence on this page.}


3.) 30 Apr 2019 23:20:34
I don’t think ziyech is special or has the potential to be. Rather Brandt if it’s a choice, as I believe his best years are still ahead of him. Brandt moving central also plays in his favour, as he can bed in as a winger, but also be played as a ten or 8 when he gets up to speed with the league.


4.) 01 May 2019 05:14:39
We already have three good left footed attacking options in Salah Shaqiri and Wilson. Unless we lose two of these, I don’t think we will look for another in Ziyech or Fekir.
Also while he works hard and is a good creator, he doesn’t finish too well IMHO.

{Ed001's Note - I did not see anything in Ziyech. For that matter I am not sure why anyone is that hyped about a single Ajax player. They are a good team but not good individuals. Ten Hag is clearly the reason they are doing so well as not one of those players is outstanding.}


5.) 01 May 2019 07:43:14
De Jong is excellent, also de ligt is the Dutch Jon Terry a real leader, and neres is a real handful for someone quite slight, I think the have a real team ethic but also some real leaders in de ligt an de Jong.


6.) 01 May 2019 09:11:11
Ziyech looked over-awed against Juventus and was more of a hinderence than a help, I thought. I missed the first half of last night as well, when Ajax had the best of it, but he did little to make me think he’s worth considering.

Ajax remind me of Liverpool when Klopp first took over. Getting more out of the players with an in-your-face system and a frantic style, relying on turnovers and capitalising on mistakes. That’s why they’re doing so well this year. They’ve caught other teams cold because they’re not used to dealing with it and haven’t done adequate planning.

Very enjoyable to watch but I’m not sure that anybody is particularly a cut above. For 19 years old, De Ligt is a beast. Van de Beek looks pretty good to me as well, but maybe not top drawer.


7.) 01 May 2019 10:52:03
Spot on, lads. I don't think Ziyech is that special and remember, these are players who have been thriving in a specific system that suits their strengths and hides their weaknesses so I'm always weary of such players.

As for Brandt, Ziyech is not anywhere near his league, ability-wise. Brandt is the real deal and has been touted since his teens to have a promising career. I first watched him in the U20 WC in 2015, then at the Olympics in 2016 and then the years after that and IMO, he IS special. His ability and versatility in the attack (able to play EVERY position bar CF) is something Ziyech simply can't compete with. It's a no brainer as to who to go for should it be btw Ziyech and Brandt.


 

 

18 Mar 2019 12:19:22
Boring international break so how about a little fun to ease our title tension?

Amongst the many things that irritates me about the media is the way it confers the status of ‘Liverpool legend’ on almost anyone who has ever played for the club. Now, I am not setting myself up as THE authority on who should be accorded this most honoured of titles but I am pretty damn sure that Phil Babb is not a ‘Liverpool legend’ as he was recently described on Sky. I have my own eclectic method of deciding who is and who is not for me ‘Liverpool legend’ - for some it is straightforwardly a matter of how their talent and longevity have contributed to the success of the club; for others it is for a one-off event of huge importance; and for others it is because they were completely bonkers. Some have forfeited potential ‘Liverpool legend’ status by their behaviour on or off the pitch or by joining a club I hate. So, for what it is worth, this is a far from comprehensive list of my personal choices of ‘Liverpool legends’ :

Ian Callaghan, Ron Yeats, Ian St John, Gerry Byrne (played almost the entire 1965 FA Cup Final against Leeds with a broken collar bone), Roger Hunt, Alan Waddle (he only ever scored 1 goal for us, the winner against Everton at Goodison in 1973), Steve Heighway, Joey Jones (mad as a box of frogs), Kenny Dalglish, John Barnes, Ian Rush, Robbie Fowler, Jan Molby, Steven Gerrard, Jamie Carragher, Xabi Alonso, Luis Garcia (for the ‘ghost goal’ against Chelsea in the CL semi final), Sami Hyypia, Stephan Henchoz (for playing as a second goalie in the FA Cup Final against Arsenal in 2001 and getting away with 2, possibly 3, handballs) .

I have deliberately left out people such as Grobbelaar (was he on the take? ), Souness (that business with the S**), Owen (joined Real Madrid and United), Torres (could have been had he stayed longer), Suarez (for obvious reasons) and Phil Neal (always thought he was a bit of a knob) . Others I have probably just forgotten.

Of the current crop, quite a few have the potential to become ‘Liverpool legends’ if they stay long enough and win things - Bobby, Mo, Sadio, TAA, Robbo, VVD, Alisson, Millie.

Who are your ‘Liverpool legends’?

Wirral Wonder

1.) 18 Mar 2019 12:55:34
Agree with pretty much your whole post except leaving Souness out 3 time EC winner and a serial winner. He rightly apologised for the interview with that lying rag and I accept that . In my view the best midfielder we've had in my lifetime.


2.) 18 Mar 2019 13:25:41
Nice question WW!

I'm a little younger than you, so my legends list is a little shorter!

However, I completely agree with everyone on your list from The King onwards.

I WOULD include Brucie, I don't think he was on the take, and I can't remember a bigger character at Liverpool in all of my time supporting them.

I would also include Reina and Dudek. No, I'm not just a frustrated ex-goalie! Pepe was the best goalie in the league for a good 5 years or more, and also had his eccentricities.

The Dude? Eell just for that one game! And he's very cool!

I would put Rob Jones on the list - absolute Rolls Royce of a player and injury cut short his career so cruelly.

Finally, and for no other reason that he just looked mean and enforced himself on the pitch, I would have Steve McMahon.


3.) 18 Mar 2019 13:26:31
Liddelland, that’s a very good counter argument for Souey. I agree that he is the best midfielder I have seen in my lifetime and probably the best captain and leader, too, and I love him as a pundit. But I did say it is a personal list and some of my choices will appear irrational to others - but that’s the fun part!


4.) 18 Mar 2019 13:44:09
Great discussion! Just for how many yards he stole for THAT free kick I’d give Gary Mac a mention, he had a massive impact on that squad too. Every player in the current squad has an application pending, we’ll find out in May.


5.) 18 Mar 2019 13:46:28
Zeddicus, thanks for the reminder - I am adding Jerzy Dudek to my list of ‘Liverpool legends’ if only for that miraculous double save from Shevchenko in extra time in Istanbul.


6.) 18 Mar 2019 15:14:32
Dudek, Garcia and Henchoz all are only cult heroes rather than legends imo. Decent players who had their moments but did not have the consistency or stature as some of the other figures. Players like Owen and Suarez are definite anti-heroes. Their efforts should be recognised and remembered for the awesome players that they were, but they do not deserve to be up there in the pantheon of legends. Torres and Alonso count imo. Weren’t here for very long but were the very best in the world in their position during their time here.

In my lifetime i would only consider Carragher, Gerrard, Hyypia, Torres, Alonso and maybe Henderson and Kuyt for their consistency and commitment as well. Cult heroes, as in players i remember fondly but not considered legends, Agger, Garcia, Mascherano, Reina, Coutinho, Sissoko, Dudek, Sterling, Riise, Lucas Leiva, Aurelio, Arbeloa, Benayoun and Sturridge (bear in mind my selections are from when i became a proper liverpool fan, 2005 onwards)


7.) 18 Mar 2019 16:41:13
Steve nicol and emlyn Hughes.


8.) 18 Mar 2019 16:48:11
If one off moments make you a cult hero the 96th minute belongs to Divock Origi.

Eric Meijer was a cult hero. Best ball boy Liverpool ever had.

{Ed025's Note - i was calling divok a cult....or something like that.. :)


9.) 18 Mar 2019 17:13:01
Hmasson2, Emlyn was one of the greatest players to ever pull on the Liverpool shirt and I did think long and hard about including him in my legends list. But I have read a number of Liverpool players’ autobiographies in which he does not come across as a very nice guy at all; and after he retired he wrote a newspaper column full of what to me were outrageous political views. I did say my choices are personal and some are irrational.

But respect to you and your opinion - if Emlyn is a Liverpool legend to you and others (as I am sure he is) then that’s cool.


10.) 18 Mar 2019 17:14:27
I'd say the starter list is good but I would have Ray Clemence, Alan Kennedy for his winning goals, Ray Kennedy - pure class and Alan Hansen.


11.) 18 Mar 2019 17:32:04
Dod, how could I omit Alan Hansen (class personified), Ray Kennedy (a giant of a goal scoring midfielder) and Alan Kennedy (scored the winning goal in 2 European Cup finals)? They join my list. But Clem? Sorry, he left to play for Spurs.

{Ed025's Note - still your best keeper by an absolute country mile WW..


12.) 18 Mar 2019 17:50:34
I won't take your dislike of Ray/ Spurs personally, WW. Aside from Gerrard (and possibly a few others) they all move off to other clubs eventually. But Ray was top class as a keeper and as a person. Go on, make an exception, put him in ;o)


13.) 18 Mar 2019 17:59:10
It's all about opinion, WW, but Neal is a legend. Our most decorated player, so has to be. And if you're having Dudek, who didn't know a thing about that save, you have to have Clem.


14.) 18 Mar 2019 18:17:36
Dod and Rome 1977, I love it that you guys are getting involved in the debate and my list of ‘Liverpool legends’ is flexible. But as I have said a couple of times, it is a personal list and may appear irrational to others. Sorry, no place for Clem or Neal on my list but happy to see him on yours.


15.) 18 Mar 2019 19:33:29
There are many legends of Liverpool but those that I remember in my lifetime are:

Dalglish
Souness
Rush
Fowler
Barnes
Carragher
Alonso
Molby
Neal
Hansen
Grobelaar
Gerrard
Hyypia.


16.) 18 Mar 2019 20:18:05
Ian Callaghan, Tommy Smith, Chris Lawler, Peter Thompson, Toshack, Keegan, Terry McDermott, Jimmy Case, Sammy Lee, Craig Johnston, Jan Molby, Peter Beardsley, John Aldridge, Gary Ablett, Steve Stuanton, Steve Ogrosovic, Steve Finnan, Marcus Babbell, Vladimir Smicer not because they were all world beaters (though some certainly were) but because I haven’t read their names in this thread yet and they were all good Club men or heroes to me that sit alongside all the other great players previously mentioned by the other posters 👍🏻.


17.) 18 Mar 2019 20:42:28
Sean Dundee. What a signing!


18.) 18 Mar 2019 21:10:39
Ex_Reffing-Useless, I’ll take Vladimir Smicer from your list and add him to mine. Anyone who scored a goal and a penalty in the Istanbul final has to be one of my ‘Liverpool legends’. Good shout mate.


19.) 18 Mar 2019 21:28:23
Alll good WW
There are so many to choose from, my favourite was Terry Mc when I was very young. As a fellow Wirralian mate I tried to make a case for Danny Murphy for his Old Trafford winners, but he’s such a knob I can’t justify it 🤷🏻‍♂️.


20.) 18 Mar 2019 21:49:27
Ex_Reffing_Useless, Murphy is one of the ex-Liverpool media knobs who have forfeited any right to be considered for my legends list. Steve Nichol is another. You’ve got me wavering over Terry Mac now. He is another who scored in a European Cup final and he did score the greatest goal I have seen at Anfield, against Spurs in the 7-0 win in 1978. Oh go one, he’s in!


21.) 18 Mar 2019 23:09:42
Great topic Wirral Wonder.
In my opinion I think the fellow reds have covered the legends well. A couple of names on the periphery of 'legend' status that I could not see mentioned were Gary Gillespie and Mark Lawrenson (respectfully putting aside any views on punditry) .


22.) 19 Mar 2019 09:30:33
I'd like to add Ronnie rosenthal into the pot of consideration. Yes yes I know about the miss at villa however, the impact he had when he first joined was fantastic. Perfect hatrick against Charlton on his first start. Maybe not legend status but still a note in our fantastic history. Ronnie whelan another great servant, maybe overlooked as he wasn't the goalscoring box to box player we all love but still a fantastic servant for a long period of time and also had quality in his play, goal in cup final against the mancs if I remember rightly plus the scissor kick he scored for Ireland shows his class. Oh and there was maybe a crazy og against utd too. 😳and he could get his foot in when needed without making a song and dance about being a hard man. Terry mac is another if only for his goal against spurs. Jimmy case another who had quality and Tommy Smith would have tackled a brick wall if it was going to get the reds a win.


23.) 19 Mar 2019 10:45:36
Ohyoubeauty - Rosenthal, Whelan and Case all good shouts but I have left Tommy Smith off my list for a very good reason (well, it is a very good reason according to my criteria) . Liverpool played Bruges in the final of the 1976 UEFA Cup. We won the 1st leg 3-2 and I went over the Bruges for the 2nd leg. We drew 1-1, winning 4-3 on aggregate. Now, there is a lot going on right now in football about encroaching on the pitch but this was 1976 and at the end of the game it was “All on the pitch lads! ”. I know, I know but that’s how it was then and I was still a teenager. Anyway, the Liverpool fans were celebrating on the pitch with the players and there was no bother at all - until Tommy Smith grabbed me by my shirt front and snarled “Get off the effing pitch, you are spoiling it for us”. Legend status withdrawn and still denied.


24.) 19 Mar 2019 11:16:20
OK I can see and understand your reasoning and I bet you still have nightmares as I'm sure many forwards still do after having a face to face with Tommy Smith. Thank you for your response and little nugget of a memory. Must've been fantastic getting to celebrate so close to the players. I think that's one of the down sides to how the game has gone, the fans and players were closer connected back then, now the only connection is social media and having a shirt with their name on your back, totally NOT the same. I remember my dad telling me about a kick about him and his mates had with shanks outside melwood. Nowadays that would be front page news but back then it was just how it was.


 

 

26 Jan 2019 20:38:40
Ed025, only this morning you stated that there were 3 CBs in every Premier League team (other than Liverpool) who are better than Dejan Lovren. After seeing the shambolic defending from set pieces by Everton in their match at Millwall this evening, it is blatantly obvious to me that Lovren is simply streets ahead of Keane, Mina, Zouma, Jagielka and any other CB on Everton’s books. Agree?

Wirral Wonder

{Ed025's Note - even though dejan is pathetic WW, i cant argue with what you are saying mate..


1.) 27 Jan 2019 07:38:23
Millwall play Karius in goal and you only manage 3 shots on target. Ouch ed25.

{Ed025's Note - tell me about it longthing, i cant even make excuses for that mate..


2.) 27 Jan 2019 08:58:08
That’s why we love yer eds25 win lose or draw your always fair and honest 👌🏻.

{Ed025's Note - cheers mate..


3.) 27 Jan 2019 09:30:33
Agree Longthing. Always humble Ed25 no matter what.


4.) 27 Jan 2019 10:55:14
Ed025 my favourite Ed
Banter yes- balanced viewyes- knowledgeable yes
Unfortunate with who he supports -yes.

{Ed025's Note - after yesterday your spot on agger..


5.) 27 Jan 2019 11:19:15
I listened to a phone in earlier in the week Ed- and done EFC fans were expressing they don’t see a pattern of how you play, or a set structure.
Is this the case?
Looking at the personnel available would be expecting you to be more consistent and higher placed

What’s the story?

{Ed025's Note - its just not working agger, our guys look like they have never played together before and dont understand zonal marking, i dont know what they do in training mate but whatever it is they need to change it..


6.) 27 Jan 2019 12:40:07
Patience running thin Ed025? Or do you want Silva there for the remainder of the season. maybe even another season?

Looking from the outside in, not sure how much he has improved compared to Allardyce.


7.) 27 Jan 2019 15:57:00
Ed25, I thought you were having a laugh when you said that 3 CB's in every PL team are better than Lovren. I propose you start with your own mob cos ALL your CB's are a complete joke. At least that just one team.

IMO, Lovs wil start at Arsenal (their CB's are atrocious), Utd and even Chelsea (Rudiger and Luiz are a calamity) . Again, that is just within the top 6. Did I also mention that Lovs shut down CR7 in the CL final one one one? Yeah, those are facts, bro. I can easily name many others for whom Lovren with the other 14 teams BUT I'll stop here cos I can feel your gritting teeth all the way from here.

{Ed025's Note - he is that bad that he would fit in well at everton brover, we need to have this discussion after the next couple of games mate and see how he acquits himself...provided klopp is desperate enough to pick him that is..


8.) 27 Jan 2019 18:25:22
Ed25, why are we having a discussion on whether Lovs is good enuff or not? He has been here for the past 5 seasons and is STILL here. Skrtel and Sahko who many thought were better than him, got binned at the first opportunity so If he was a "pathetic" as you say he is then what is he again, still doing here? Why did Klopp give him a new deal in 2017? Why did he have the season and WC he had if he was "pathetic"? Could it be cos he is as good as I think he is overall?

There is nothing to discuss here, my friend. You think he is useless. I disagree with using such extreme words to describe a very capable CB who on his day would put ALL of Everton's CB's combined into immediate unemployment. Did I mention he shut down CR7 in the CL, lol?

If he makes a mistake (like no other player in history has ever made a mistake) in the next two games should he play, it won't change my opinion. Why? Mistakes happen. Carra made tonnes of mistakes in his LFC career (led the PL all time in own goals) BUT you don't see me calling him pathetic, do you? BTW, Your CB's are just dreadful to the point that Zouma who I love as a CB, is getting worse under Silva. Take care mate.

{Ed025's Note - zouma is our best CB mate and hes not even ours..


9.) 28 Jan 2019 07:20:21
Lovren is not useless, he’s just unreliable.
Matip is useless 🤝.


 

 

 

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12 Feb 2020 07:34:59
Red Sandman, thanks for the support.

Ed025, I have to concede this one to you. I still think there are some players in the modern game who are not motivated exclusively or primarily by money but you are probably right that for the majority the money comes first, second and last.

Wirral Wonder

{Ed025's Note - it really does im afraid mate..


 

 

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11 Feb 2020 19:21:59
Posters, help! Please come to my assistance and demonstrate to Ed025 that modern footballers are not all the greedy, money-grabbing, selfish so-and-sos he would have us believe. Or am I hopelessly naive?

Oh, and Ed025 - didn’t your very own Binman turn down an approach from Ferguson before he signed Schmeichel to stay with the Blues?

Wirral Wonder

{Ed025's Note - again a different era WW, its all about the money now mate and i wish i could say different..but i cant..


 

 

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11 Feb 2020 18:28:56
Ed025, such cynicism in one so young! I will give you 3 examples off the top of my head to challenge your view :

Matt Le Tissier - could have had his pick of the big teams, earned more money, been more famous, won more trophies but stayed with Southampton throughout his career.

Alan Shearer - when he left Blackburn, was wanted by Manchester United where he would have earned more money and won more trophies but signed for his boyhood club Newcastle United instead.

Steven Gerrard - could definitely have signed for Chelsea and probably a number of other top clubs, earned more money and won the PL trophy but stayed with Liverpool.

Other posters will have lots of other examples.

Wirral Wonder

{Ed025's Note - le tissier was from a different era WW so we can dismiss him, shearer followed the cash to go to blackburn and at newcastle was still one of the highest paid players in the league, gerrard tried to leave for the cash but buckled under the pressure of threats to him and his family...but good try mate.. :)


 

 

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11 Feb 2020 17:14:40
What none of us know is what footballing ambitions or dreams any player has. They may include winning as many trophies as possible; playing for one or more of the world’s most famous clubs; playing different types of football in different leagues; sampling the different cultures in several continents or countries; having a settled long-term base to raise a family; staying with his hometown club for his full career; earning as much money as possible in what is a relatively short career; or a mix of these. We should simply enjoy the great players that come to our great club and wish them all the best if and when they move on.

Wirral Wonder

{Ed025's Note - only one of those has any credibility WW ....its the money mate and anyone who claims different...is lying through their teeth..


 

 

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10 Feb 2020 10:04:20
Lizardon, can I suggest that you go to the Liverpool FC website and read an article entitled “Behind the badge: 18 months inside the LFC goalkeeping department”? You will see that in training and through his appearances in the U23s and in the 1st team, Caoimhin Kelleher has earned the trust of John Achterberg, goalkeeping coach; his assistant Jack Robinson; and Jurgen Klopp.

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25 Sep 2020 19:31:20
Do posters really think these vile trolls are Liverpool fans, fickle or otherwise? Social media is full of the incontinent outpourings of twisted, puerile minds and any reasonable and sensible person should avoid it.

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21 Sep 2020 08:52:23
I remember many of the posters on this site saying exactly the same things about Gini Wijnaldum. I prefer to leave the judgement on how much a player contributes to a Liverpool performance to Klopp and his coaching team.

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20 Sep 2020 20:01:42
Liverpool have now stooped to bringing on ineligible players at half time to win a match. Disgraceful.

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20 Sep 2020 13:12:44
No place for the captain then?

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21 Feb 2020 14:00:23
Ed002, thanks for the reply. I was not suggesting for a moment that Klopp is lying, I believe him to be an honest, genuine guy. I was asking you the question because you had stated in an earlier reply that “he certainly would not have written it himself”.

Wirral Wonder

{Ed002's Note - If he did write it, it would be unusual. Do you think the Beatles signed all of those autographs sent back to fans writing in?}