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18 Jan 2018 11:49:35
Klopp has decided to not let Ben Woodburn go out on loan this window. Sunderland were one of the sides keen on signing him as Coleman is a huge fan.


1.) 18 Jan 2018 12:21:00
Would have loaned him to Sunderland. Would have been really good for him I believe.

2.) 18 Jan 2018 12:35:24
Sunderland is a terrible place for him to go at the minute i think.

3.) 18 Jan 2018 12:38:56
Not sure a championship relegation scrap would have been good for Ben. Especially at a club that can become toxic quite quickly.

4.) 18 Jan 2018 12:46:30
Whilst I agree that a loan is probably still best for him at this stage, I honestly think he can do a lot better than Sunderland. Kent and Grujic have joined Bristol and Cardiff - 2nd and 3rd placed teams in the championship I believe. Woodburn should be looking for similar, not a team that's on its way down. Just my opinion.

5.) 19 Jan 2018 01:01:32
Doubt Woodburn will be going to Sunderland, I seem to recall Coleman and Klopp having exchange about how much Wales should be using him, with Coleman telling Klopp to get lost pretty much, something tells me Klopp remembers that and won't be keen to help him.



16 Jan 2018 09:50:07
Simon Mignolet is conisdering his future after Jurgen Klopp made it clear Karius will now be his no 1 going forward. We all know he would most likely have been sold in the summer, but his recent comments means a January exit could be on the cards. Says he wants to play in the world cup and won't achieve that by being on the bench.


1.) 16 Jan 2018 10:05:11
He won't achieve that playing anywhere lol.

2.) 16 Jan 2018 10:06:28
He won't play in the world cup regardless, he is forever doomed to be a number 2 because he is ''crap''

3.) 16 Jan 2018 10:10:24
I must admit I thought it was very harsh for Klopp to tell him he isn’t number 1 for the remainder of the season, he is hoping for a World Cup spot after all and Karius is not the answer for us, good luck to him but I can’t see many clubs showing much interest.

{Ed002's Note - Klopp has done this on a number of occasions.}

4.) 16 Jan 2018 10:31:22
Jcw it's called being cruel to be kind.

5.) 16 Jan 2018 10:54:34
Ed002 is right. Klopp has flip-flopped with this goalkeeper situation a lot in the last 18 months. Many here believes Karius has done enough to get the spot, and obviously Klopp agrees, even though he declared that Mignolet was No. 1 after watching all 3 fight for the spot in pre-season. Ed002 has always asked us if Klopp lies to his players. That's the question I'm asking myself at this moment too.
Is Karius significantly better than Mignolet? We all have our opinions. Now Karius has the spot, and we'll support him as No. 1 until the end of the season, or until another Bournemouth happens, or whichever comes first!

6.) 16 Jan 2018 10:59:28
Migs thinks he is better than that fella from Chelsea - would love to know what magic pills he takes.

7.) 16 Jan 2018 11:10:26
Neither Karius or Migs have done enough to be able to guarantee themselves no1. Migs has been in this poor form for the last 18 months or so.

I don't think Migs has anyone but himself to blame for not being able to hold down no1 spot as his performances haven't been good enough. That being said I don't blame him for wanting to move on now given the situation. It is very clear to him and karius the club is looking for a new keeper at least in the summer.

Both will be thinking about there future as the club looks to someone else.

8.) 16 Jan 2018 11:16:37
So he told mignolet he would be first choice in the summer. and he has been. And then now he says mignolet won't be first choice for the remainder of the season. how is Klopp lieing to the players? He's being very honest with them - 'you were no1 now your not' is pretty honest if you ask me.
And if they aren't good enough, it doesn't matter what Klopp says to them, the club is more important.

{Ed025's Note - i agree TIA, things change all the time in football, no one should be guaranteed a place no matter how good they are, if a player is out of form they should be dropped and someone else given their chance..

9.) 16 Jan 2018 11:30:42
JCW I think players would prefer it that way? A manager to be open and honest with them.

{Ed002's Note - But not change his mind regualrly.}

10.) 16 Jan 2018 11:35:14
I totally agree with that Editor #25.

11.) 16 Jan 2018 11:59:43
What are the chances he already would leave this winter? Don't get me wrong. It's no wish of mine, and I know the clubs don't line up for his signature, but anyway. Do you think he might already leave this window?

{Ed002's Note - I think it unlikely.}

12.) 16 Jan 2018 12:01:45
Thing is tho, who would buy him. If any1 sensible has been watching how he plays they will see he hasn't been any good.

13.) 16 Jan 2018 12:17:26
Said it for months - Mignolet is a liability and needs to go. Must be on cloud cookoo land if he thinks he has a chance of being Belgiums number 1.

Whether Karius is the answer is yet to be seen. Still adapting, young and yet to have a run. He was well respected in Germany before coming here I recall eds? Good luck to the lad.

14.) 16 Jan 2018 12:38:36
Think its more the players form that changes Klopps mind rather than Klopp messing the player about, its only taken a very long few seasons for Migs to finally get the push, not sure I like how he has thrown his toys out the pram straight away though, like he has been amazing and couldn't surely be dropped.

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps he should stop blurting it out publically?}

15.) 16 Jan 2018 12:57:42
Finally some clarity on the issue. Good for all concerned and most of all the club.
Makes sense to support karius to the end of the season and give him a run of games as he is our champions league keeper. Looks to me like it was the plan all along to make karius no1 in January after easing him in.
Will support the slick German for the rest of the season and hopefully Simon can get a move in January somewhere he is wanted, I’ve slated him on many occasion but he is a red and has done his best even though he’s not up to scratch.
Really heartening to see long standing issues starting to being addressed regardless of how overdue they are.
We’re on the up.

16.) 16 Jan 2018 13:08:36
There are plenty of clubs below LFC’s level who would take Mignolet if they could afford. People do need to understand the difference between being a top level player and crap. There are a lot of levels between the two. Mignolet would have a chance at a berth in a fair few prem and too championship clubs. If they could afford and if he’d want it are a different matter. He isn’t a top keeper but he isn’t total crap either. Since someone above has managed to rip through all bar a few of the keepers in EPL and quite fairly in those cases, that should drop the penny with people that the standard of the likes of Karius and Migs isn’t unique to them, there are plenty around EPL who are similar standard or not much better. Finding the truly noticeably better and signing them is the challenge.

17.) 16 Jan 2018 13:03:01
Ed002 I don't really understand what significant consequence it causes if Klopp blurts it out publicly. At least blurting it out publicly this time forces fans to accept the reality and get behind Karius, rather than witch hunting him until the end of the season in the hope that trust old Mignolet is re-instated.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about - who mentioned a "significant consequence"?}

18.) 16 Jan 2018 13:04:44
Ok well at least that's one gone. All we can do is pray that Klopp doesn't see Karius as our number 1 for next season. Looks like he is going to get the rest of the season but he has none of the qualities needed to be an elite GK and I find it worrying that some one here believe he does. We have plenty of cash now, let's splash out on a world class keeper since we have addressed the most important issues with VVD and Keita.

19.) 16 Jan 2018 13:15:46
Palace want a keeper apparently. Maybe hodgy can do us a favour. He owes us big time! Also think he would suit their style more.

{Ed002's Note - They are already in talks with one goalkeeper and have an option lined up.}

20.) 16 Jan 2018 13:15:54
Ed25, agreed with you and TIA.
If telling someone you are number 1 and then can’t drop him or change the mind is lying, then maybe everybody on the bench and not first 11 should give up.
And if he keep saying that nobody is guaranteed a starting spot, he will also be accused of mis management by some and not not giving players confidence and by others keeping the players in their toes.
Different situation calls for different ways to handle.
And specific to MiG, there was no question he was number 1, uttered or otherwise.
He is as error prone if not more than Louvren and I am sure Louvren get dropped so much more.
He has only himself to blame.
I wish him luck for his advice but he is just not good enough.
If after 5 years, there’s still doubt and has not convince, he probably never will.
Xhaka’s goal to me is the last draw which I probably see at the amateur level only.

Karius, he made some mistakes.
But I rather bet on the unknown.
Even De Gea took many more games (probably 3 times as many) before he begin to prove himself able.
Let’s judge him at end of season.

21.) 16 Jan 2018 13:25:26
Ed002 unless I'm mistaken, you've said a few times that Klopp shouldn't publicly blurt out who is number one goalkeeper. What's the big deal if he does though?

{Ed002's Note - Who has mentioned anything about a "big deal"? Is there something wrong with you?}

22.) 16 Jan 2018 13:21:11
I admire Klopp, he's improved us 10 fold. Had couple of finals, OK didn't win but qualified for CL, through to the last 16 on course to qualify for CL again this season. HOWEVER I don't see his fascination with Karius. He's poor, nervous makes silly mistakes doesn't command like he should and unless he's a legend in training I can't see what he sees in him. Not that Mingolet is much better but for me clear all the keepers we have apart from maybe ward who I understand wants out and sign a good keeper.

23.) 16 Jan 2018 13:33:03
This is exactly the reason for playing Karius in CL, everyone criticised but it was obvious then, that klopp wanted to take a good look and occasions played well. Contrast that with Migs supposedly purpose trip against stoke and limp wrist against arsenal, his time was up. Karius made a mistake and is not the answer for 2019, but Klopp stating your my No.1 will give him confidence and concentrate on overall performance without thinking about being dropped following week.

24.) 16 Jan 2018 13:42:36
Ed, you're being a bit mean.

I just don't understand your strong objection to Klopp 'blurting it out publicly'

{Ed002's Note - You are making yourself look stupid - what "strong objection" is this? Were you banged on the head repeatedly as a child? If you were it is OK to admit it - most Liverpool supporters were it seems.}

25.) 16 Jan 2018 13:50:57
We've been here before with Karius. He was number one, was appalling so was dropped. Top 4 is so tight at the minute nows not the time to try him again. I'll get behind the kid and hope he does well but got a feeling this is going to be a big fat told you so!

26.) 16 Jan 2018 14:00:03
The problem over the past season and a half is that Klopp has been rotating 2 keepers, giving them chance after chance. I now think he has realised that none of them are up to scratch and he needs a top keeper. If he continues to play Migs then it would be same old same old, but by putting Karius in for league games Klopp is sending a message to the fans. It will be interesting to see who he plays in the champs league.

27.) 16 Jan 2018 14:02:41
"Perhaps he should stop blurting it out publically"

Why are you trying to alienate me ed?

{Ed002's Note - Because for reasons I don't understand you have invented terms like "significant consequence", "big deal" and "strong objection" making yourself look particularly stupid.}

28.) 16 Jan 2018 14:13:03
Ed002 maybe if i word it differently as you won't answer questions unless it's in black and white:
Your quote:
Ed002's Note - Perhaps he should stop blurting it out publically
What people wanna know:
Why have you suggested that Klopp should perhaps stop blurting it out publically?
I don't see the harm in it so long as he has told them beforehand. Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - The reason I would not answer the question is he was trying to put words in moy mouth. Klopp has made an embarrassment of himself and made it difficvult for the goalkeepers by saying who is #1, #2 and #3 for the season, then changing, then changing again and now switching again.}

29.) 16 Jan 2018 14:32:00
Surely you're just trying to wind me up Ed?

{Ed002's Note - No, you have being trying to put words in my mouth and you are looking very stupid.}

30.) 16 Jan 2018 14:42:33
------abuse deleted------and both accounts------------

31.) 16 Jan 2018 14:54:35
I'd rather he change the keeper and make an 'embarrassment of himself' than him be stubborn and not change the keeper when the original no1 hasn't been good enough.
Respect your views either way ED002, but I don't see it as embarrassing if he changes his mind and declares it. happens all the time in life - realise a mistake, change your mind and move forward OR realise a mistake, don't change your mind, be stubborn to save face and stagnate!

32.) 16 Jan 2018 15:16:40
I love thet "embarassment"of a man.

33.) 16 Jan 2018 15:30:25
I have today seen him linked with a move to Napoli for £20m. The price seems a bit high for a GK for a team like Napoli, so I don't think it is one that would happen but it would be a good move for him if it did. Sczescny wasn't great in the prem but has done very well for Roma and Juventus.

34.) 16 Jan 2018 15:28:34
In my mind, I am thinking in this specific case, what is Kloop to say?
I am pretty sure he is not like meeting a reporter and before being asked, state "Yes, Karius is number 1 for now".
Surely, he must have been asked the question "Why Karius? "

If we are not debating his decision to start with Karius, but his response to the question, what is is supposed to say:
1. I wake up this morning and I feel like doing so
2. Just like before, I think Mig is tired and I am resting him (like in Arsenal game) .
3. No specific reason
4. Karius is doing better in training is thus I am choosing him.
and etc.

Whatever his response, there will be criticism.
And whatever his response, he will blurting it out publicly.
I see nothing wrong therefore with what he said.

If we are debating his decision, we should look at Ed25's response, which agree.
Like I said in my earlier post, there will come a point in time (which we supporters are thinking that it has came too late) that Kloop will be writing Mig off.
The point in time is now, as it seemed from Kloop.

No matter how Karius is performing, I do see him staying between the post.
I am surmising that Ward might even get a game in place of Mig between now and end of season.

35.) 16 Jan 2018 15:13:42
"Were you banged on the head repeatedly as a child? If you were it is OK to admit it - most Liverpool supporters were it seems"

What is this for?
Having superior knowledge doesn't give anybody the right to insult millions and millions of people.

I think there was a certain degree of respect for the eds and that's why StableGenius asked those questions they way he asked. That's my surmise.

{Ed002's Note - You provide an excellent demonstration that many the Liverpool fans once known for their sense of humour have turned in to miserable damp patches.}

36.) 16 Jan 2018 16:05:37
Poor Klopp, its like Sophie's choice.

37.) 16 Jan 2018 16:46:50
Editor #2 is not wrong when he speaks about him and the GK situation. Klopp has fiddled about far too much with the goalkeepers and it is a bit embarrassing when you look at the way he's handled the whole situation. 'I'll buy Karius for number one spot' then it's 'ok I'll remove him from number one spot' followed by ' We'll rotate them! ' and finally ' Ok Karius can have the number one spot again' its been all over the place and it shouldn't of been handled like it has been, it should've been much simpler. You watch, Bogdan will be playing in a few weeks.

38.) 16 Jan 2018 16:51:50
Surely all keepers make mistakes. Some more than others. I have no real experience to base what I'm about to say on but I think it's the most difficult or least forgiving position in the game. People are quick to criticize but for a young lad he has lots to his game that in my opinion bode well for his future, nobody is perfect even the best make mistakes it's just when they do it usually results in an opportunity for the opposition rather than a goal. Nothing is to be gained by criticising every mistakes a player makes, especially a young player still learning his trade. I know I've made lots of mistakes in my life and if I received the level of abuse for every one then I'd imagine I would have a much harder time progressing than if shown some encouragement. A team is only as strong as it's weakest link but some links might seem weak now but will definitely be stronger each and every day that passes. If you can't support the team in the lows then don't bother celebrating the highs. I'm from Ireland but you'll never walk alone actually means something to me and that's that we support our players, all our players.

39.) 16 Jan 2018 16:30:45
Ed 02, what do you mean "very stupid"?

{Ed002's Note - I mean more than just plain "stupid" and less than "DF".}

40.) 16 Jan 2018 17:33:54
Migs had a poor first half of the season last year. But was very good in the second half and hid improved form was a huge influence on us making champions league. Bit again he has had a poor first half of the season. I would now give up on him.

41.) 16 Jan 2018 17:57:34
When reading a lot of these posts, I usually just look out for the eds replies. Especially ed02.
When reading his posts, it is usually followed by a sharp intake of breath as I'm not sure whether he is being serious or a WUM, it is then usually followed up with a giggle as I then read people losing their sh*t at ed02 responses and the DF's that have absolutely no sense of humour whatsoever.
Keep it up eds.

42.) 16 Jan 2018 14:09:26
Uggers. where is klopps obsession with Karius?! As far as I can recall, he played him 10 times and then dropped him for a whole season, then made him no2 start of the season and migs has failed to cement it so now he's allowing karius a chance? Surely you can see how this is a win win for everyone and in fact clever management? Karius either proves himself able, or he doesn't and Klopp then signs a top top keeper in the summer. So either way, Liverpool benefit.

43.) 16 Jan 2018 19:08:02
The De Gea comparisons are futile. De Gea was a young kid with a good reputation playing for Atletico Madrid. Lots of people had heard of him, hence the big fee United had to pay. He struggled when he came, mainly with physicality as he was roughed up at corners and set pieces. Once he bulked up he was fine.

How many of the Karius disciples on here had actually heard of him before we signed him? How many had seen him play? What has he done when he has been selected to warrant such faith? On Sunday, one save to make and he let it in.

If Klopp hadn’t signed him and he wasn’t German he wouldn’t be getting a sniff of a place.

I hope he proves me wrong but I won’t hold my breath.

44.) 16 Jan 2018 19:55:47
.................moronic post deleted from some ignorant dumb fuck who gets himself a new name and abuses and editor - this is why the Liverpool fans get the reputation that they do 0 the vegetables like you...........

45.) 16 Jan 2018 21:29:49
Lol roasted.



02 Jan 2018 13:35:00
Hi Eds,

Seen a lot of talk about Lemar still being on the radar especially if Coutinho is sold. I haven't seen him much this season but do you reckon Monaco will still be looking at £90m for him? How's his form been?
Fee seems a bit excessive but I am sure there will be people with better judgement around this transfer.


{Ed002's Note - Monaco are not looking to sell Thomas Lemar in January and have made it clear to a couple of interested sides - although they would no doubt think again should an obscene offer be made. I expect it will be different in the summer.}

1.) 02 Jan 2018 14:12:59
Ed002 - that quashes my take on wonderdogsparky. Wrongly assumed the reference to Percy was a gentle nod to the 1963 album A Look At Monaco by Percy Faith. Which obviously meant Lemar was the new room mate. You big tease :)

2.) 02 Jan 2018 14:50:02
That quashes my hopes of landing Lemar as replacement also Matthino.

3.) 02 Jan 2018 15:35:23
Why you lads dismissing our chances? They'd reconsider if someone offered a ridiculous amount. If Coutinho is off, I'm sure we'll be prepared to break the bank to sign a replacement.

Lemar and Brandt are still front runners in my opinion, with perhaps Draxler and Meyer as outside bets. Who knows though. There may be a completely new player in the frame since the last Sharkopod took place.

If Coutinho leaves though, I'm sure he'll be replaced. So don't get too down! The main fear is that we accept Rafinha as his replacement in a swap deal!

4.) 02 Jan 2018 15:51:58
Not dismissing it MK mate just going on what Monaco have said and what ed has explained above. They won't sell in Jan mate.

5.) 02 Jan 2018 16:09:17
I can't see that happening in regards to Rafinha MK, surely? It's concerning to say the least now you've said it. This month is going to be long until we know what's happening anyway, wish it'd all get sorted and we can flog Coutinho now get it over and done with. Surely Barcelona want the deal to happen ASAP, what are we waiting for, get it done!

6.) 02 Jan 2018 16:24:15
Let's hope not mate, but Rafinha is an attacking midfielder who can also play comfortably on either wing. So it is a concern for me that Klopp likes him. It may be seen as a quick Coutinho replacement who also won't be cup tied for the CL as he hasn't even played for Barcelona once this season.

Barca want rid and Klopp likes him. If Rafinha signs, i guess I'll shut up and support him until he gives me reason not to! I really don't think he's the right option though. Recent rumours suggest it could be a genuine option though! I have no idea what is wrong with Rafinha though. I cannot find any record of him even being on the bench this season.

7.) 03 Jan 2018 01:19:19
Why is insigne or forsberg not in consideration?



29 Aug 2017 07:37:50
Hi Eds,

Sakho, Flannagan, Kent, Wilson, Markovic, Allan and Origi could all be leaving us either on loan/ permanent basis.

Do you have any updates on their potential destinations/ fees?


{Ed001's Note - Sakho looks likely to replace Jonny Evans at WBA on a permanent move. Flanno looks set to stay right now, though offers will be listened to. Kent looks set to stay, though it really depends as a good loan offer for him would be accepted. Wilson might well leave on a permanent to Celtic, though I am not sure if that was just their backup plan if Roberts didn't return. Markovic is available but so far no takers, though Watford and Hull are both interested, both wanted loans while we want a sale. Allan I have no idea about, without a work permit we are unable to do anything with him so will probably just have to offload him. Origi is probably going to leave on loan.}

1.) 29 Aug 2017 09:20:58
Just out of curiosity ................

{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page, this is the Liverpool page.}

2.) 29 Aug 2017 09:56:30
Cheers. Should be a busy next couple of days.

3.) 29 Aug 2017 10:01:23
Apologies my mistake, Sakho is going to Palace, I meant to say WBA want him to replace Evans if a deal can't be done with Palace. I really am sorry, it was early and that was a silly mistake not to read back through and check. Thankfully Ed002 pointed it out to me.

4.) 29 Aug 2017 10:23:13
Real pity about Wilson, was interested to see what he could bring to the senior team.

5.) 29 Aug 2017 11:25:16
One more strike and your out Ed😁.

{Ed001's Note - hey, I am not Coutinho, I don't do strikes!}

6.) 29 Aug 2017 13:06:08
I think Wilson and celtic are a very good fit. I'm amazed that none of the newly promoted clubs have taken Kent for a season. The lad ripped that bayern Munich defence apart in pre season. I'd be very happy for Kent to stay but also think the experience of playing regularly, in front of big crowds, at say Brighton, would be invaluble. I Think he would do well at Bournemouth personally. Are liverpool still asking £25.000.000+ for Markovic? If so that is ridiculous. I do believe, however, that Markovic has a future in the premier league. He was pretty good for hull. Crystal palace could do with the technical skill of him as they don't have enough skillful players to join their midfield to attack. If I were de boer I'd take Kent and markovic.

7.) 29 Aug 2017 13:16:55
Nice one Ed.

{Ed001's Note - cheers.}

8.) 29 Aug 2017 17:35:28
£22m with £3m in add ons for sakho from palace rejected, our price being £30m, just have a feeling if Evans goes and potentially chadli with Leicester and Swansea both interested that WBA will just come in and pay the asking price.

9.) 29 Aug 2017 17:41:59
Some real shames there - Wilson should be making it as a first team player for us, and so should Kent really.

{Ed025's Note - not good enough really hjikle..

10.) 29 Aug 2017 19:39:19
Third mystery player is pepe reina.



02 Aug 2017 11:27:36
Hi Eds, do you think we'll reconsider our asking prices for the players who are up for sale? No one seems to be willing to match the 12m for Moreno/ Markovic and 30m for Sakho and I just can't see them being sold at those prices.
Moreno seems to be doing his best to get back into the team but the other two are certainly as good as gone.


{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want to sell and will need to listen to any offers. They turned dow Stoke for Sakho expecting them to up their offer and they went elsewhere.}

1.) 02 Aug 2017 18:25:58
After last night performance I would like us to keep moreno. He looked a different player from the guy who let seville walk through him. After europa league final moreno took a lot of stick and quite right (hugging ex teammates in tunnel! ) After that final he was very wobbly and I think that was coz the lad had taken the loss very hard and was carrying it's weight on his shoulders. Before the final he wasn't that bad and actually had some very good games. Last night he reminded me of a young John arne risse. He was awesome. It was like a new signing. Now he knows he has to fight for his place I think we will see him improve a lot, he is a young lad, getting better. After last night's performance 10 mil would be an absolute bargain for some. Don't think we could get 20 mil for him but that's what I would value him at. At least. Kent and TAA were brilliant and hope they get chances this season. taa is thought of as future midfielder and he should have stamped his claim on a place by season after next.

Can't understand why markovic and sahko haven't been snapped up yet. Both very good player who, for whatever reason, can't get a game for liverpool. Thought they both showed their class on loan last season. Some of the results palace got were crazy. Beating chelsea etc sahko did a lot towards those wins.

2.) 02 Aug 2017 18:37:22
You would keep him based on a pre-season friendly against a clearly unfit opposition? Mental.
He's not been good enough the whole time he's been here, he needs to be shipped out.

3.) 02 Aug 2017 18:41:38
Wouldn't it be better to judge him over last seasons league performances rather than a preseason friendly?

4.) 02 Aug 2017 18:47:45
Fickle city.

5.) 02 Aug 2017 18:48:06
That's very subjective. he's been inconsistent, but had some brilliant games too. Unfortunately for him inconsistency is punished more at left back than other positions.

6.) 02 Aug 2017 18:52:43
I'm with Superred on Moreno. He looks a different player. Who cares if it's pre-season? It's what the manager uses to assess players, so why not the fans. His delivery from the left was top notch and not too bad in defence either. I'd rather keep him than accept 10m for him.

7.) 02 Aug 2017 18:56:55
Out of Markovic, Sahko and Moreno it does seem Moreno gets way more playing time so Klopp does regard him higher than the other two.

8.) 02 Aug 2017 19:21:27
Judge him on his most recent performances. Good to see reds fans playing down last night's win. The must be unfit for us to beat them. Or they weren't trying. Could it just be the case that klopp has moulded a very good side who where just too good for Munich. They have won that little pre season tournament for the last six years or something. They wanted to win and had a whole squad to choose from. Can't all be unfit with season start days away.

If moreno can play at that level consistently then we should keep him. Consistency is something that can be taught. It's a psychological thing. If anything he is a good option from the bench if we are losing or just need a goal.

9.) 02 Aug 2017 20:48:05
Moreno is our 3rd best left back. behind a cm.

10.) 02 Aug 2017 21:19:47
He can't play at that level consistently that's the point superred, your making out as if we beat Munich in a champs league final, we beat them in a friendly that's little more than a fitness test, the result is completely irrelevant, Munich were really slow and sluggish, moreno had a great game because his fitness was up and he's a quick player anyway playing against a team that looked like it was playing in treacle.
I like the lad, I've met him a few times and I appreciate he tries his best but he's not good enough.

11.) 02 Aug 2017 22:46:46
Superred, you can't sell him for £10m, yet you want to ask for £20m min?

12.) 03 Aug 2017 00:39:45
Keep Moreno. why, friends with Phil. A happy Phil stays :)

13.) 03 Aug 2017 02:18:23
Moreno does have a heck of a left boot but Robertson has done well in his time on the pitch and our first choice has been injured for a chunk of preseason. Still think selling Moreno for less than a profit is bad business as he has improved since he got here and is still pretty young. It may be worth to him to move on if he feels he is third choice.

14.) 03 Aug 2017 07:09:30
Milner is caught out continuously at LB. No one says a word about it. Commentators just shut off their brains and talk about how reliable he is.

If Moreno put in the same performances as Milner last year he'd have been slaughtered.

15.) 03 Aug 2017 08:01:55
In this inflated transfer market let's see how many teams come in for him and how much they're prepared to pay.

16.) 03 Aug 2017 09:26:17
Moreno is a difficult one because what he showed against Bayern is exactly what we've been missing. My worry as others have said is can he do it consistently? Also when we are under pressure is he reliable enough defensively. History would suggest not.

17.) 03 Aug 2017 09:43:06
One game does not maketh a left back!

18.) 03 Aug 2017 12:42:10
Could it be that Klopp sees Milner as a CM next year? Seen as we've missed out on keita, so then have Robertson and Moreno battling for LB? Just a thought which could be true.

19.) 03 Aug 2017 13:03:29
Sakhos not fit I thought? If he can't pass a medical who's going to buy him. A load of two faced people on here. This page use to be full of how great he was, I always said he looked like Bambi on ice and a mistake waiting to happen. Where all you sakho lovers now apparently he's not worth what we want?

20.) 03 Aug 2017 13:08:09
Whilst I'm on the sakho rant, as the window shortens and clubs need players and they can't get other options bids will get made. If he's not fit and klopp won't play him it's hard to put him in the window.

21.) 03 Aug 2017 13:26:07
On the subject of Moreno, this seems a problem with our coaching to me, the lad has everything, pace, good feet, a good shot, set pieces and cross, and good attitude. He's rash and can get out of position but that is down to coaching and getting experience. hell probably end up in Milan with suso who we let go and shouldn't have.

22.) 03 Aug 2017 15:04:19
For Moreno, I think it's too little, too late. Consistently good in training but poor on the field is not something a competent manager would overlook. He played exceptionally well the other night, and he'll make a good purchase for someone if he continues on this trajectory.

23.) 03 Aug 2017 17:38:41
Ok I appreciate it was only one game and it was a friendly. Munich can't of been that unfit though can they? Season starts in a couple of days. He was good though wasn't he. He didn't look the donkey we all say he is. After the seville final I wrote him off. After ONE game. I dunno. When I wrote that post I was still buzzing from the win and now after tough athletic madrid game i've had time to think. Okay defencively he is suspect but I think that can be changed. You say Munich were running through treacle and again I say they had a whole squad to choose from and unlimited subs. We're they any less fit than us? I thought it was more a case of them pushing wing backs too far forward trying to force the issue and us not falling for it and, yes, moreno pace. His left foot is sweet and he does that quick intricate passing well. For our counter attacking game I think he works well. Not so sure about games when we are favourite and have a lot of possession. Don't think we should take ten for him. At that price we could sell him easily, just wait til window is nearly closed and teams have injuries or poor form, he will be sold easily. With a fairly thin squad though I think it is worth keeping him. At least one more year. You can say he is 3rd choice lb behind a cm but he started our toughest pre season game didn't he?

24.) 03 Aug 2017 19:06:20
Completely agree Superred.




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15 Jan 2018 01:15:55
I know its easier to say this after a victory against the league leaders but I think sometimes we get too caught up about the players we don't have rather than ones we do. We've lost Coutinho, VVD was out, Keita is joining this window and we've still put in one of the best performances we've seen at Anfield in a while. We are unbeaten in our last18 and have outscored City during that period, whilst only Chelsea have conceded fewer. We are 3rd in the league on goal difference. Think we need to start having a bit more confidence in the team.


1.) 15 Jan 2018 02:01:24
Keita is not joining this window.
Yes, the team overall is having a good season but adding more quality will not go amiss. We are not nailed on for a top4 finish and very fine margins will decide which club misses out. Its a risk I think Klopp should not be taking.

2.) 15 Jan 2018 04:10:50
Well said jimmy, we all know we can improve the team- every team on the planet can be improved but all I hear is the entire defence is rubbish, as is our goal keeper and entire midfield. We came 4th last year and look like we will improve on that. We are very close to challenging for the title and we know the club is looking at high caliber targets ( though it may not be until summer) I don’t thInk our players are half as bad as some make them out to be. Onwards and upwards.

3.) 15 Jan 2018 17:24:18
And you saw the moment Can was sub out, Citeh was all over us. Is this called confidence?



11 Jan 2018 11:43:40
Hey Eds,

Do you reckon Shalke will entertain the possibility of selling Goretzka this window for a high fee considering they seem destined to lose him in the summer on a free? Is there a reason the clubs interested in him haven't made an offer in a an attempt to beat the competiion or is his heart just set on Bayern which is why?


{Ed002's Note - It doesn't really work like that. Clubs spoken with the player and no one has persuaded him to jump ip now giving up a lot of money in the summer. Schalke cannot simply sel.}



29 Aug 2017 07:32:23
Hey Reds, I'm sure we are all super excited about the signing of Keita and the potential arrivals of VVD and Lemar. However, we should spare a thought for those who will be leaving us.
The country of Liverpool will miss you Sakho you big beautiful bastard.


1.) 29 Aug 2017 07:43:09
Sakho is not a bastard but brainless idiot. The real bastard is Coutinho. refuse to play for club that feed his mouth but fit to play for his country.

2.) 29 Aug 2017 07:58:32
Coutinho faking a back injury. Get him out of our club I hope his career nosedives like Torres.

3.) 29 Aug 2017 09:17:53
He's only doing what Masche did before he left for wait for it, Barca. How convenient?

4.) 29 Aug 2017 09:22:02
Sod him if we get lemar no one will b assed trust me he a gem, look how fluent we look without pootinho we will b just fine.



27 Jul 2017 16:50:47
Hi Eds,

Do you expect us to lower our asking prices for some of our players? I know the market is crazy and we are trying to secure the best deals but Palace have baulked at £30m for Sakho, Napoli won't pay £12m for Moreno and most recently Fiorentina are saying £16m for Markovic is too much.

I'm sure these players will end up leaving but Im struggling to see who's going to pay the prices we're asking for.


{Ed002's Note - That is the purpose of negotiation.}



25 Jan 2016 10:03:54
If we can't get a deal for Teixeira, I hope we go for the next best player in the Ukranian league and that is Yarmolenko.

I dunno how he's still at Kiev but I am sure he won't be costing 38m. He's been brilliant for a while now and if not of their stubborn owner he'd be long gone.

We don't have a goal scoring winger and he'd be exactlly that. Not only that but he's got great ball skills and a good eye for a pass. He's also done enough at CL and international levels to show he can do it at the highest stage.

What do you guys think?


1.) 25 Jan 2016 10:14:10
If teixeria doesn't happen then we should steer clear of any players in the Ukrainian league, and doing business with any of their clubs. Every time we do it seems they want to hold us and other English clubs to ransom.

2.) 25 Jan 2016 10:14:48
We have enough players. Too many in fact.

What is this obsession with buying more?

Quality not quantity.

3.) 25 Jan 2016 10:21:36
Oddly enough, having too many (which we do I agree) shouldn't try and stop us buying another one if we can find someone who can do a job for us now and can contribute to our building a good team over the next few years.

4.) 25 Jan 2016 11:07:54
You say quality not quantity which I agree with, so we should by 1 or 2 quality players each window. We should trim the squad of average players. Brendan bought way too many average players in the last 2yrs.

5.) 25 Jan 2016 11:55:49
if the opportunity to improve our first team is there and the money is justifiable I've got nothing against adding to the squad. I just don't think Teixeira fit's either of those criteria.

The price quoted is higher than any of the other stars they've sold and he's behind both Firmino and Couts in Brazil's pecking order. I think if we go for him we'll be back here in two years talking about the money we wasted on him whilst pining after a new starlet.

6.) 25 Jan 2016 14:51:55
You can't judge being in the Brazil squad as a be all and end all. their squads are always a tad strange and I'm sure I've heard that their process for picking any squad is a bit outside the norm and certainly not based on form.




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27 Feb 2018 07:07:52
Jorginho links come from Paul Joyce who is pretty reliable concerning Liverpool stuff so I wouldn't really call it media guff.




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18 Jan 2018 12:46:30
Whilst I agree that a loan is probably still best for him at this stage, I honestly think he can do a lot better than Sunderland. Kent and Grujic have joined Bristol and Cardiff - 2nd and 3rd placed teams in the championship I believe. Woodburn should be looking for similar, not a team that's on its way down. Just my opinion.




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16 Jan 2018 15:30:25
I have today seen him linked with a move to Napoli for £20m. The price seems a bit high for a GK for a team like Napoli, so I don't think it is one that would happen but it would be a good move for him if it did. Sczescny wasn't great in the prem but has done very well for Roma and Juventus.




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12 Jan 2018 18:17:56
Couldn't have picked a better side for him to join. They are doing very well in the Championship and Lee has his team playing some great attacking football. I'm sure he'll get plenty more game time than he did at Freiburg as well. Lot more games in the championship and they are still in the cups.




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11 Jan 2018 11:34:47
I think its an attacking player. Thought it was Pulisic but the way people keep saying top top player hard to get leads me to believe it might be someone better like Asensio, who were linked with before Madrid recalled him and he blew up. His hype seems to have calmed a bit but I doubt Madrid will even consider selling him, especially not now.





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25 Jan 2016 09:57:15
28m won't cut it. They're asking for 38m. I don't see how they'll drop it that low considering they literally have no reasons to sell the player.

Owner is rich, he is their best player, could easily move for that amount in the summer if he keeps up performances.




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07 Aug 2015 09:08:20
Think Vigoroux to Swindon was more or less confirmed as well.




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25 Jul 2015 10:33:41
We'll play 60 odd games next season. There'll be more than enough games to go round for everyone. I expect the personnel to change depending on the opponent, injuries and player fitness. It's a good problem to have.




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22 Jul 2015 08:50:12
If wishes were horses, we'd have both.




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21 Jul 2015 18:29:07
Think he's gone to Bayer Leverkusen