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14 May 2018 19:17:09
When it rains it pours! Just read that Ox not only injured his acl but the medial ligament and hamstring too. So we may not see him on the field in 2018 again. Recovery is going to take time and effort. Really empathize for the guy. Was beginning to come onto his own, and carve his own place in the team. 😒 🤞.

ArAy1969

1.) 14 May 2018 20:08:53
Big shame for the lad, was coming into his own as well - hopefully he can make a full recovery.


2.) 14 May 2018 20:12:19
If that's true, everything else will be healed by the time his ACL has healed. It isn't like only 1 thing heals at a time.


3.) 14 May 2018 20:24:10
Don't count on seeing Ox until December 2018.


4.) 14 May 2018 20:53:15
He will be like a new signing for the second part of the season and all being well he will come back big and strong.

He has really impressed both on and off the pitch.

Got a feeling the Ox is going to pick up plenty of trophies with us in the next few seasons.

Let’s get number 6 to give him a boost.


5.) 14 May 2018 21:23:47
A bad blow and an area I get increasingly worried about. With Coutinho gone and Can likely to leave this summer we have a shortage in midfield, we have Keita arriving which eases some of the worry but now Chamberlain isn’t due back until December.

As it is we have.

Henderson (some injury issues) .
Milner.
Wijnaldum.
Can (leaving in summer) .
Chamberlain (out until December) .
Lallana (likely to leave) .

Keita

It seems Ceballos is highly likely which if happens gives us.

Henderson.
Milner.
Keita.
Wijnaldum.
Chamberlain.
Ceballos.

Plus Coutinho still needs replacing which hopefully mean Fekir or Pulisic arrives. Given Chamberlain is out until at least December and the possibility of any of the front three being injured or out of form, should we look to sign Ceballos, Pulisic and Fekir?

Would give us great depth and quality in midfield and attack.


6.) 14 May 2018 21:26:36
Chambo actually sourced 2 tickets for a father and son he met near the end of the season.

class act on and off the pitch!

hope he stays positive through his injury and can get through this!


7.) 14 May 2018 22:44:10
I kept thinking we got lucky with being him injury free compared to his arsenal days and now he's crocked. At least he's got the summer to recover and hopefully he can make it back before the busy christmas period.


8.) 14 May 2018 22:57:46
Hopefully he doesn't lose his pace and explosiveness. Really liked him this season, and offers a good option in the middle or wide. We Definetely need cover out wide, pace and the option to play as a forward or attacking midfielder too. Fekir ticks that box for me.


9.) 14 May 2018 22:42:25
Jonesred I understand your concerns and I’ve just been having a near identical conversation with a mate as he had the same worries. But I personally think that if we sign our targets (Cellabos and AM) along with Keita, then we will have sufficient players to cope with Ox’s injury.

If we use this seasons formation as an example and look at the squad hypothetically with those signings. Hendo, Keita and Fekir start with gigi, Milner and Cellabos in reserve is plenty, even if let’s say we lose hendo and Fekir to injury, we still would have a midfield of Cellabos, Keita and gig/ Milner, and then gives players like Trent and Woodburn the opportunity to play in midfield. Especially if we sign a rightback as the eds have mentioned.

I’d say signing another midfielder on top of all that could end up being more disruptive than productive.
Cheers.


10.) 15 May 2018 01:10:48
Don’t forget about TTA.


11.) 15 May 2018 05:57:23
Terrible shame. Ox had become an automatic starter in the midfield. An explosive player. He was outstanding against City in the CL.

This is clearly a very serious injury to his knee. It is entirely possible he will come back as good as before. Also entirely possible he will never be the same player.

At this point, the club has to plan for life without him. "Back in December2018", "nine months" etc are all just guesses.

So we very much need to bring in another midfielder now, in addition to Keita.


12.) 16 May 2018 15:27:32
No way Lallana leaves this summer - I expect him to make an impact when he gets subbed in in the 65th minute of the CL Final.

That being said, I only think we'll bring in 1 or 2 additional midfielders.

I personally get excited about the potential of a Milner, Keita, Ox midfield, and I don't think it's the end of the world if Lallana starts the season in Ox's spot

Bottom line, I'm not too worried about our midfield depth, even though it looks rough for the CL Final.


13.) 17 May 2018 15:58:50
He is only 24 yo. I remember Mane was injured and got back in 2 months.


 

 

 

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07 Oct 2018 16:14:19
Announced lineup against ManC:

Alisson, Gomez, Lovren, Van Dijk, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Henderson, Mane, Salah, Firmino.

So TAA gets a rest (but on the bench) with Gomez taking his place. And Keita is available on the bench too.

ArAy1969

1.) 07 Oct 2018 16:25:57
Strongest bench at anfield for years!

Come on redmen!


2.) 07 Oct 2018 16:53:06
makes no sense - Gomez can fill in at right back but it is definitely not a position he is comfortable in, least compared to centre-back. Hope this selection doesn't come back to haunt us.


3.) 07 Oct 2018 18:48:28
To be fair Lovren had a good game today. I still prefer Gomez as CB but you've got to call it as you see it.


4.) 07 Oct 2018 23:03:19
Seano, it was clear for anyone with their eyes open the past few games, to see that TAA needed a blow so why not play Gomez there esp. since he played the whole of last season at RB, right? Oh, did I mention that Lovs and Gomez played a blinder? Klopp has a message for you and it goes, "You're welcome".


 

 

29 Sep 2018 16:45:20
Perfect. Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Gomez, Robertson, Henderson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Mane, Salah and Firmino, announced as the starting line up. Our best against their best. Let's get ready to Rumbbbbblllllllll 💪.

ArAy1969

1.) 29 Sep 2018 20:13:53
Should have been Keita for Hendo/ Gini.


2.) 29 Sep 2018 22:07:27
Agreed Ron I'd of put Keita on instead of Gini personally mate, I think the midfield would've been much stronger with Keita starting ahead of Gini but what do I know? I'll tell you, not a lot! but I was surprised to see Keita on the bench.


3.) 29 Sep 2018 22:35:57
Keita runs at their midfield and turns them round, Hendo/ Gini don’t make as many dribbles forward as Keita.

I thought he pushed them back when he came on and was instrumental in us having so many chances.


4.) 29 Sep 2018 23:12:59
Glad to see this pointed out. Seems Klopp prefers the consistency of gini, milner and hendo but it was evident early we needed more from the mids. Kieta brought that. I miss the Ox honestly, he was always a threat.


5.) 30 Sep 2018 01:30:43
Spot on, Petecolo. I thought Keita would have started BUT Klopp recognized that Milner was gassed and Wiji was tiring as well so he brought on Keita whose energy, pace and drive would take the fight to Chelsea from midfield cos it worked and forced them back.


6.) 30 Sep 2018 18:14:00
yeah I thought hendo should have come off earlier when salah came off to many sideways passes from him today and I know salah was not having a great game but his pace is still a threat.


 

 

11 Sep 2018 15:23:34
Exciting 3 weeks ahead beginning Saturday. Tottenham, PSG, Southampton, Chelsea (twice), Napoli and ManC in succession. We're going to find out what this team is really made of. Not just tactics and ability; we're going to see how effective Klopp's rotation is, which I believe will be a key factor to this season's final results for us.

ArAy1969

1.) 11 Sep 2018 16:04:17
I agree, rotation is key this season, if used effectively we're laughing. I think we'll batter the lot of them mate :) .


2.) 11 Sep 2018 19:50:36
To state the obvious if we do well we will be top still and in a good position in the champions league. If all goes bad could be low as 6th. I am sure you can guess where I think we will be come the end of these games.


3.) 11 Sep 2018 20:00:33
I hope you're right, Mo. The sooner we get Shaqiri and Fabinho up to speed and in sync with the rest of the team, the better it will be in the long term. It may sound odd, but I think the key to our game against Spurs will be if Hendo is starting or not. Excited, and can't wait.


4.) 12 Sep 2018 00:30:37
Lol Walter, I'm sure you'll be proud come the end of the season when you see us lifting that League trophy mate because mark my words, it's going to happen. If it does, sorry what am I thinking? WHEN it does, will you be a positive Walter for a season? lol.

Ra, I agree, I mean we've won the first set of games without some of our reinforcements but as the season progresses with cup games we'll need them extra additions to step in and I have no doubt they will. I also agree regarding Hendo, for me Hendo, Keita and Milner have to start against Spurs. Wijnaldum is one of them for me, I really like him, he is a bloody good player but he isn't consistent enough, therefore he needs benching for now, give him a break then he can work hard for his place again. I do see him playing a big part this season though don't get me wrong.

I'm excited too ra mate! we haven't played the best football this season so far but we've been winning and that's all I'm bothered about, stats etc I aren't interested in, the only stat I'm bothered about is the final score so overall I'm delighted with the squad. Having said all that, I do believe this game against Spurs we'll really step it up and show people what we're capable of! Maybe we've been saving the top performance for this game! I don't just think we'll beat them, I think we'll destroy them,

Hope you are both well Walter and Ra :) take care fellas.


5.) 12 Sep 2018 13:49:38
Thanks Mo. I trust your recovery is progressing well and you're resisting the itch to overdo it. Just take it easy for some time, and you'll be as good as new.

I rate Wijnaldum quite highly too, but I must say his inconsistency is a very frustrating thing to watch. Sometimes I wonder if Klopp is at fault for this because Wiji's position is not fixed and he's shunted around the midfield depending on need and Klopp's tactics. But then, isn't this modern football, where players are expected to be adaptable to different situations, tactics and styles? Most players adapt but many don't and we see that when players leave when a new manager is brought in (managers change as often as players it seems nowadays) .

I'm with Ed001 on Walter, LOL. I just can't figure him out, also. He clearly is a Liverpool supporter, but he never thinks we'll win. That's a mindset I've never come across before (supporting but with no belief) . But he's polite and a nice enough guy, so it's cool. Walter, the team is going to make you eat your words by the end of the 38th day of the season 😝.


 

 

06 Sep 2018 13:15:17
Hope you're doing well, Ed001; I had a question for you, if you don't mind. I've been wondering as to why the club let Karius go and kept Mignolet, when in my opinion it should have been the other way around? It seems the better goalkeeper was let go. If you look at their performances, Karius was equal to, if not better, in all areas with the exception of saving penalties. Mignolet has clearly had more klangers in games than Karius, over the years. I accept that Karius's mistakes in the CL Final were colossal, but after all, it was ony one game and, by far, his worst ever for us. Was it a financial decision (we didn't exactly get a windfall profit by letting Karius go)? Or was it for footballing reasons? Did Karius agitate more than Mignolet for a move? I've read Ed002 stating that Karius's position was "no longer tenable" some time back, and was wondering if you could elaborate more, if, of course, you know the reasons. Thanks, in advance.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - because that was the only reasonable offer made.}


1.) 06 Sep 2018 13:24:20
Okay, Ed001, thanks for the reply. I'm kind of surprised that Klopp let "his man go" (he bought Karius), whereas Mignolet (who was already there when Klopp arrived) was kept. There was talk of offers for Mignolet also, but I guess nothing came of those.

{Ed001's Note - nothing of worth for Migs, and Karius needed to leave more desperately.}


2.) 06 Sep 2018 18:01:05
Hi ArAy1969

The way it is getting reported is different.

Klopp comes across very decent in his press conf but at the end of the day he is no different and is very avg when it comes to man management. Goal keeping situation is a very valid example of one.

On another note, good to see Salah up and running after last few weeks.

Cheers.


3.) 06 Sep 2018 18:19:36
Sami, Klopp is average at man-management? Do some research, man cos none of that is true. His man-management is what has led us to this point. His ability to improve players and keep them hungry and on their toes as well as being able coax great performances out of his players (limited ability or not), is one of his hallmarks and calling cards.

You simply cannot achieve all that he has achieved in his career, taking weaker clubs/ players and making them better, stronger and winning things with them (with very low budgets till LFC), without his man-management ability which he is greatly respected for. Now did he do a good job with the GK situation? HECK NO! He, messed up big time. But to say that he is average at man-management cos he messed up once in this case, is myopic and of course, patently false if you take a hard look at his body of work. Again, do some research.


4.) 06 Sep 2018 18:20:27
Inside knowledge samikewell or are you just talking out of your arse?


5.) 06 Sep 2018 19:29:17
Thanks for the reply Sami, but I will have to disagree with you, to put it mildly. I think Jurgen Klopp is the right man for the right job at the right time. The reason I asked the question was to see if there was anything Ed001 knew from behind the scenes which hadn't already been shared through media. And even though Ed001 didn't mention it specifically, it's clear that it was a financial thing and nothing to do with man management. A good enough offer was made for Karius and he was let go. A good enough offer was not made for Mignolet, so he is kept for now.


6.) 06 Sep 2018 19:37:57
The goalkeeping situation is fine. A lot was made of him saying ‘x’ is my number one then changing his mind when that player lost form but isn’t that what we want?
You wouldn’t say ‘Benteke is my striker’ then when he doesn’t score a single open play goal since January just keep playing him would you? Unless you were really stupid!


7.) 06 Sep 2018 21:41:46
Spot on, Bobby. In fact, I read somewhere that Klopp wanted Alisson in the Jan. window but clearly, that would not happen. This was after he made Karius no. 1. He also before that, kept saying Migs was his no. 1, knowing full well that he was useless and that Karius would get the shirt eventually so I see your point there.

ArAy1969, maybe cos Migs is completely useless. After all would you make a suitable offer for Migs as things stand right now? Personally, I would cancel his contract, pay him off and be done with it. Karius was always better than him, IMO and he to some extent proved that last season as he contributed to us currently, having the best defence in the PL since January.


8.) 06 Sep 2018 22:07:23
ArAy karius was never going to accept being 2nd fiddle to Allison.

He made it absolutely clear when we bought Allison, he wasn't happy at all and even had a dig at klopp.


9.) 06 Sep 2018 22:26:10
FLMAO @ Kramer 😂😂

I agree with BRover 👏.


 

 

09 Aug 2018 16:44:51
I've just read about Klopp's treatment of Can before he left and I must say it has to be applauded. Klopp has declared that he knew for months that Can was leaving (as did almost everyone else) . And he didn't like the fact that LFC would not be able to make some money by signing him to a new contract and selling him after that (as was done with Suarez and Coutinho) . But in his professionalism, he continued to pick him whenever Can was able to play on the field (UCL Final included) . We've all seen how other managers freeze players out during contract disputes (Aldeweireld comes to mind recently) and how they're banished to the U23's or whatever. Klopp's even handed conduct in this situation has to be recognized and applauded.

ArAy1969

1.) 09 Aug 2018 17:34:18
I certainly get what you’re saying, but in a champions league final picking anything but your best available players is counter-productive.

I always liked Can and he seemed to keep putting the effort in too!


2.) 09 Aug 2018 18:10:23
The thing is Can was professional all the time.
He didn’t refuse to train he didn’t coast through games.
He behaved like a pro and Klopp treated him like a pro.

Too many footballers refuse to train, turn up late, “miss a flight”, carry on knock, blame their wife as an excuse to get a move. They deserve to be isolated and sidelined.


3.) 09 Aug 2018 19:50:43
Absolutely right Ron. And then even after leaving, neither Can nor Klopp have had one negative word to say about each other. Another positive. Simply because very often both players and/ or managers decide to get bitter and show it, once the player is gone.


 

 

 

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26 Sep 2018 17:53:00
You reap what you sow, eh Ed001?

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - I wish someone would reap some of these crappy click bait articles that get put out based on these kind of comments!!}


 

 

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31 Aug 2018 23:36:51
Even Anderlecht is off. On our books again until January.

ArAy1969

{Ed002's Note - Maybe not.}


 

 

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19 Aug 2018 20:30:56
Thanks for clarifying Ed001 👍.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - you are very welcome, I think the club have officially confirmed it with an announcement on the website. However they have not mentioned how long the deal was for.}


 

 

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19 Aug 2018 15:06:05
Exactly, EpicPotato. I'm aware. I was just trying to see if the flying part to Germany today, could be true, and that could possibly happen only if an extension has been signed.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - it is correct, he has signed a new deal and then gone out on loan.}


 

 

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19 Aug 2018 13:43:19
It's all over the digital media and I hope it's true. The last item I read said he was already on his way to Germany. I wonder if anybody can confirm he has definitely signed his contract extension?

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21 Oct 2018 14:18:21
If it's a Cup Final, then I would play Gomez, Lovren, VVD and Robertson. Sacrifice some offense for defensive solidity. Milner, Henderson and Wijnaldum in midfield (bring on Shaqiri and Sturridge in the second half if we are drawn or behind) . The front 3 is obvious. Just really need to win something now.

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21 Oct 2018 13:05:22
Klopp said it best in his post match press conference. It's that last pass that is so low in quality amongst the front 3, that is causing the problems for them. A question of timing and confidence. It's probably a matter of time when they start clicking with each other as they did last year. When the last pass does go right (Shaqiri to Salah last night) then we see the results.

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19 Oct 2018 17:52:19
Sure, Ed001. We've seen examples of small scrawny kids (Messi, Zico and Zola come to mind) who developped enough technical skills to be able to overcome their physical "disadvantages".

Do you think Keita is too small for the EPL? Seen him get pushed around and off the ball, a bit.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - no I don't. He is a similar physique to Kante, small but wiry. Even so, if you are not prepared to face the physicality present, it can take time to adjust. I think he will be fine, once he does adjust.}


 

 

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19 Oct 2018 15:58:47
Thanks Ed001 👍.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - very welcome. It is, imo, probably why Woodburn has had to develop such good technical skills and tight control. He has always been small and slight, so can be knocked about and needs the ability to keep hold of the ball while being knocked all over the place. It should help him in the future.}


 

 

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19 Oct 2018 15:11:32
I think it was you Ed001 who said something similar to this and best describes the Solanke situation. While playing with the second teams and/ or U18's or U23's, he was physically intimidating and imposing and could therefore be effective. But at the highest level, everyone is physically at a similar or superiror level and he is consequently having the adaptation problems.

Since we are on the subject of physical presence and development, Ed001, do you think Woodburn is having similar problems? Is his growth affecting his ability to play football with the same effectiveness as when he first played games for the first team as a 17 year old? Just wondering.

ArAy1969

{Ed001's Note - yes it was me about Solanke but I don't see the same issue with Woodburn who was always small.}