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19 Jul 2018 04:34:24
I TRULY can't wait for the season to start. I think I say that every year but the impact last summer's signings have made, make me really can't wait to see what these new recruits can do. Roll on August.




31 Aug 2017 01:27:05
It amazes me how people don't seem to believe that with application and determination a footballer's game can improve significantly. Add a talented coaching staff, a supportive club and fanbase, and it's more than possible for AOC to be surprise us all. Stranger things have happened IMO.

I believe he's young enough to improve and will be eager to prove, if only to himself, that he made the right decision.
Moreno has moved from woeful to not so bad and might still improve further.


1.) 31 Aug 2017 03:25:28
De Bruyne, Coutinho, Lukaku, all moved on from previous clubs as they weren't hitting the heights expected of them. Sometimes it takes the right club and coaches to bring out the best in a player.

2.) 31 Aug 2017 04:23:22
KDB and Coutinho has Brains something AOX doesn't possess! No other differences mate!

3.) 31 Aug 2017 05:08:42
Please correct me if im wrong, Harry, but im pretty certain that Coutinho Lukaku and KDB had the same pieces of anatomy in their skulls when they were at Inter and Chelsea. Regardless of their perceived intelligence, they had trouble establishing themselves until they moved clubs.

4.) 31 Aug 2017 05:21:40
I am sorry but it playing time that lead to KDB and Coutinho's exit from Chelsea and inter! Nothing to do with ability!

{Ed001's Note - except that they couldn't get playing time because the clubs felt they were not good enough at that stage in their careers. That would be everything to do with ability.}

5.) 31 Aug 2017 07:28:29
Ox has never really had a long run in a position to learn it. Whether through injury or more recently through Wenger changing his position every week. My mate (Arsenal fan) said he had a couple of games at cm where he played well and looked like the only player really trying and they thought this would become his position and then for some reason next game he'd be left out or playing wing back instead. the boy has talent Wenger just doesn't know what he's doing these days.



31 May 2014 00:22:36
Really hoping we get Lallana. He was the only one who seemed capable of unlocking Peru's defense. He was positive and looks like he would fit right into BR's philosophy.

Apparently we've made a 'final bid' of 25 mil. Hoping Southampton will accept and he can go to Brazil with his future more or less sorted.


1.) 31 May 2014 02:09:30
One for the eds or reds.

I don't now the ins & outs of the FFP guidelines. I do however agree these restriction are needed to preserve the integrity of the greatest sport in the world.

Am not a football expert but I do understand brokering deals (not football related) and have to apply my trade within a framework set by regulators.

So let's say we buy lallana for £25m. The personal terms are a 5 year contract on £100k a week . that's £26m (for ease of calculation I have ignored all other fees and taxes). Total cost £51m

Now if we were to buy for £25m but agree to pay Lallana £50k per week (that's a £13m saving) but with a clause stating that we give Lallana a 50% share of his sell on fee. So if we sold him for £25m in 3 years he would get £12.5m. In this situation the player is £500k down. If sold for more lallana is better off.

The latter would surely be better for the club. The club will have a lower wage bill, reduces risk and liability on accounts and less likely to fall foul of FFP.

Am I being thick (apologies in advance)

{Ed007's Note - Without going into too much detail, why would Lallana agree to it when he could just move to another team and get a deal that suits him rather than get messed about with trying to help a club meet FFP. I was going to leave your post for Ed002 but I don't think her answer would be as courteous as mine. The menopause is proving to be tough time for her and her nightime sweats and flatulence are proving tough for me.... YUK!!! Why else am I here at half 3 in the morning, our bedroom smells of boiled eggs and hot cabbage!!!!}

2.) 31 May 2014 10:31:36
REALLY. Ed002 has been really courteous with me of late. I have been really impressed with her.
Although the other day she did call a poster, 'some kind of person', which almost had me choking on my cornflakes.

The flatulence your welcome too.agreed "YUK"


3.) 31 May 2014 10:59:43
Hi Bexit, I agree with ed001. No reason for lallana to accept something like that. I also think that your post is an example of why Ed002 hates discussing the finances so much, you've explained your idea very clearly but I'm sorry I don't think it makes much sense.

4.) Thanks for the replies. duly noted. The point I was trying to put across is the concept of lower wage plus % of sell on fee. The finer details would be thrashed out through negotiation of contracts through solicitors and other personnel (not sure who exactly is involved). I would hope that during negotiations a specialist in taxation and wealth management are on hand to aid solicitor.

FFP is for the great of the sport. Clubs will have to adapt so in turn the players have too it's how change works in all walks of business. It just takes a bit of time to adjust too. Instead of wait and see what others do and then follow
the herd why not try it first.

In my opinion it would be worth doing on smaller deals say players up to £5m. If this concept works then do it with a 10m buy and so on.

{Ed001's Note - the players won't adjust that quickly. They will just wait out their contracts more often to get themselves a better deal.}



30 May 2014 07:17:20
Really can't believe what I've been reading about Lambert.
We started the season with 4 senior out and out strikers. Borini was loaned out and Aspas didn't score a league goal and never threatened to break into the starting 11.
So what if Lambert is 32? If I'm not mistaken he's the first player to make the England squad from outside last season's top 6 clubs, (before his Southampton team mates).
He's on his way to Brazil on merit. The stats tell the story of what he's capable of and he's been fantastic.

Even if he only has a couple good seasons left in him there are a few things we know for sure. He loves the club and will give his all and he understands where he'll be in the pecking order.
We had a good season and I'm sure nobody will hold Aspas responsible for us not winning the league. Is he a better backup striker than Rickie Lambert? YOU DECIDE.


1.) If Gerrard gets injured/needs a rest we've got the best penalty taker around. He's a scouser, a fan, and I happen to believe he's a much better player than some say on here.



10 Sep 2013 23:54:51
How good as Jordan Henderson become? It really is a pleasing as a fan to see your club's players develop before your eyes. Remember Lucas? Now he's a fixture in the first team and didn't we miss him when he got injured at Chelsea?
Now for the question. Which other players can you think of who overcame a disappointing initial period at the club to become really good? {Ed001's Note - easy - Ian Rush, he even cost Twentyman his job, due to the pressure heaped on him when Rush was thought to be a flop!}


1.) Gareth bale

2.) Sorry read it as 'a club'

3.) The obvious name other then Jordan Henderson, is Lucas Levia in recent times. Great midfielder and does such an important job. When he's injured the team genuinely miss him. He had a hard time in his first few seasons, featuring from the bench and struggling to find his feet consistently when called upon, but once Xabi and later Mascherano left Lucas really stepped up and has become a lynch pin in the Liverpool team.

4.) As good as hendo has become I personally think bales transformation over 3-4 seasons is astonishing! Went from being traded as part of a deal for downing to the worlds most expensive player. Regardless of what you think he went from being a useless LB to one of the best attackers in the world

5.) Jan Molby struggled early on in his Liverpool career. But he did have to fill Souness' boots and that was an unenviable task. To be fair, the whole team struggled to adapt to his loss so it might be a bit harsh on big Jan.
I almost enjoyed the early part of that first season without Souness because of the unpredictability.
We dropped a lot of points, early on. Rigsby.

6.) 11 Sep 2013 14:14:37
best change I ever seen was jamie carragher I feared the worse after that utd game with two own goals and then he became a player that was used to fill in caps by houllier, but when rafa took over in 2004 and moved him permanently to the centre half position for about 5 years he was easily in the top 5 defenders in europe.although I would put a lot of that down to his retirement from international football.




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29 Jul 2018 17:15:14
Redrebel would like a step by step guide in changing usernames. Heads up, I think he said his new username might be Redfaced.




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18 Jul 2018 13:34:18
This is a stupid thread.




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18 Jul 2018 04:21:20
I think if you are in the squad and NOT fighting for no. 1 in your position you ought to be elsewhere.




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13 Jul 2018 05:37:54
4 years really is a long time. Maybe its because then it was Bayern and now its Stoke?




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18 Jan 2018 15:52:14
Have read all the comments and there are points to argue for both sides. I think ultimately another Jan signing might be more down to what happens with Sturridge than with the sale of Coutinho.
Last month at some points Klopp was benching (resting) TWO of the front four, which seemed to imply that he thought we had more than adequate cover. Maybe he sees the return of Lallana as something like a new signing?

Tbh, our goalkeeping situation is more of a worry than buying a replacement for Coutinho, especially if none of the club's 'true targets' are available. The Keita, and to a lesser extent, van Dijk transfers do give us an insight into the manager's thinking. It's more about who he wants than who is available, and he seems willing to go the extra mile (to Blackpool) to get these specific players in.

I think if Sturridge leaves we might get a squad player in (sort of a 'Klavan til we get van Dijk' type thing)? Other than that I think that's it.





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03 Aug 2018 17:09:38
Loved the post and totally agree with the expectations but you should have left out 'potential starters in any EPL team'. I know you said 'potential' but its the 'any' I can't agree with.




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03 Aug 2018 17:04:03
Mane to outscore Bobby

Spurs to miss out on top 4

Cardiff straight back down, joined by Huddersfield and Bournemouth

Wolves to finish between 10th to 12th.

Don't want to predict how we'll do cause my bias is sure to kick in but I'll go with an improvement on last season's 4th place and at least semifinal of the FA cup.

Oh, and Chelsea the team to replace Spurs in the top 4.




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03 Aug 2018 16:53:09
Can't say that I see the big deal. A transfer isn't the only way a team can lose an important player. If a player has a season ending injury in sept what then? The team just has to soldier on with what's available until the next window. The decision was made with clubs knowing that it would mean players could leave and not be replaced. The important thing is that clubs have some measure of control over who leaves.




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21 Jul 2018 19:14:44
SGRed, I'm not going into the comparisons but the constantly hoping for top 4 part really strikes a chord. How many seasons have we hoped to just make the CL? Now, any TV pundit that dares leave us out of their top 4 predictions are going to get some really dirty looks, and not just from Liverpool fans.
I know there are no guarantees, but I don't see anybody saying 'hope we make the top 4' which says a lot about what we expect from the upcoming season.




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21 Jul 2018 19:01:24
Obviously, the biggest inhibiting factor in moving players on is the club's asking price. Second could well be the players' wage demands. I hope its just that they love the club and want to fight for their places, but who knows. It must be exciting to be part of that group, can't imagine anyone who has a shot at playing regularly wanting to leave (yes Phil i'm looking at you) .

Seriously though, I know there must be genuine interest in some of our fringe players and I would just like to see them fit and playing, even if, sadly, not with us.