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17 May 2019 19:37:57
Hey ed001 hope all is well. I'm reading Leroy Roseniors book at the moment and one part reminded me so much of a recent player of ours? He's saying how much it infuriates him watching Premier League strikers not able to make the right sort of runs. Couldn't help think of a few seasons back I was at Anfield and Benteke would be starting and being so frustrated how static and uninterested he was. Do you have any thoughts on him from the time?


{Ed001's Note - that is my thoughts, he would be constantly stood around on the edge of the box watching when a cross was put in. I just wanted someone to have a word and tell the lazy **** to get his arse in the box and be on the end of them.}

1.) 17 May 2019 20:19:25
Spot on, Bledd85 and Ed. Benteke is super talented BUT you wouldn't know it with the feckless, lazy way he played for us and has been playing for Palace since he moved there. I remember a game vs West Brom at Anfield where the ball was out wide and Benteke literally stood behind one of their CB's in the box waiting for the cross to come instead of trying to lose his marker and get into position to anticipate and attack the cross.

Ed01, I also remember another game at Palace where Emre Can had the ball and was about to swing one in. He looked up and saw that Benteke was just you guessed it, standing there like a lamp post. Can you believe that Can had to literally point a couple of times to Benteke, motioning him to move his arse into position for the cross? As a former CF at amateur level, I could not believe what I was seeing cos I mean, these are the basics of CF play. It was at that point that I knew it was time to cut bait with him and it has been one of the many great decisions Klopp ever made as LFC manager.

{Ed001's Note - I can believe that, he is still doing it with Palace.}

2.) 17 May 2019 20:48:00
Funnily enough Wolf it was against Palace I really noticed it. We lost 2-1 if i remember correctly and me and my mate couldn't believe how static he was. Professional footballer just stood there in between centre halves not even attempting a run. Was incredible to see.



06 Apr 2019 18:14:37
Question for ed002 if you're able to help please but anyone feel free to answer if you have any suggestions.

First off hope you're well and taking it easy! I am doing a USA road trip next month for our honeymoon and looking for some recommendations if possible? Will be in Chicago for our Newcastle game, St Louis for the Champions league semi final 2nd leg (assuming we get there. ), and finally Pigeon Forge, TN for our final league game. Was hoping you'd have any suggestions for places to watch? Or any recommendations in general not necessarily football related?

Much love and thanks in advance.


{Ed002's Note - Chicago - AJ Hudson’s or The Tilted Kilt. St Louis - Amsterdam Tavern. I cannot help with Tennessee - all I know about Pigeon Ford is that Dollywood (think of McLean and McLean and Dolly) is there.}

1.) 06 Apr 2019 18:33:47
Thanks for the advice ed will look them up. You're right about PF too- we have a cabin up the road from Dollywood. And being the big Parton lovers we are will surely pop in! Also doing Springfield IL, Nashville, Savannah and Orlando if you have any suggestions for here also? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Your best bet is to Google the Liverpool supporters club. I know Savannah reasonably well but not the others.}

2.) 06 Apr 2019 19:13:42
Will do cheers Ed enjoy your weekend.

3.) 06 Apr 2019 20:46:23
Have to win quarter final first mate.

4.) 06 Apr 2019 20:46:14
On the recommendation theme, if I may ed2, have you eaten at Alinea in Chicago? Going stateside in June and thinking of booking if I can get in, wondering if it worth the money.

{Ed002's Note - I am almost certain the amswer is no. I don't go to Chicago unless I have to.}

5.) 06 Apr 2019 20:58:08
If you come to Louisville, KY Molly Malone's in the Highlands is a Liverpool hang out. Pidgeon Forge is a tourist trap. If you end up going there, you have to hike the smokey mountains. Absolutely beautiful but again, the rest is a tourst trap. Just my opinion.

6.) 06 Apr 2019 21:18:30
Anyone know how much data it uses to stream on your mobile data? I only have a 2GB data plan so I've never tried it before. However I know one of the networks is currently doing a 100GB per month data package, I think it's BT but I'm not overly sure.

7.) 06 Apr 2019 22:20:03
Only reason we're stopping there really Stone is to visit the Smokeys. going to do a bit of water rafting too. But yeah overall looks very touristy.

Was looking at Alinea but looks very pricey! Think it has two Michelin stars though. But going to meet some friends in Chicago and go to a Cubs game then look for the bar ed mentioned.

8.) 06 Apr 2019 22:39:15
I think it'd use all of the 2GB hsf, I'm not 100% but youtube videos eats the data very quickly so I'd imagine streaming would too, especially a 90 minute game. 100GB though, you'd be able to watch all the games every month no problem on that.

9.) 06 Apr 2019 23:16:32
It’s is pricey isn’t it, that’s why I was hoping ed might have been and could say if it’s worth it or not. Got 3 stars I believe, and been voted America’s best restaurant 4 times, the show offs 😂.

10.) 07 Apr 2019 00:04:17
ok bled, then you’ll love the Smokey mountains. The whole area is beautiful. I’m kind of an outdoorsy type too so you’ll love it.

11.) 07 Apr 2019 05:01:52
I have no idea how it is but, for us mere mortals, we're probably not going to be dining in 3-star michelin restaurants that often. You're doing an American road trip for your honeymoon - if you got the funds why not go? As a one-off it will be something you'll remember for a long time and you'll probably not have many opportunities again. If you got the money I'd go for it. I have no idea about the food but if I was in your shoes i'd give it a go.

12.) 07 Apr 2019 10:48:44
Seano you underestimate me. A young exuberant socialite like myself can always be found in Michelin star restaurants! Nah I hear what you're saying though and we are foodies but I don't think we'd have the time. there's a few other items on the agenda too. Thanks for the input everyone.



01 Nov 2018 16:36:14
Wish me luck lads heading in to the city tomorrow for my stag weekend! Gutted were away would have been nice to soak up the atmosphere. Anybody got any personal recommendations while we're there?


1.) 01 Nov 2018 17:16:17
If you see a terrace house with the front window lit up in red, you’ve found ed025s home. Apart from that not a clue.

{Ed025's Note - i would not even visit a brothel if it had a red light benny, bledd the baltic triangle on the outskirts of the city centre is good mate, loads of boozers not far from town and a visit to peaky blinders there is recommended, matthew st in the city centre is great as well and if you want a late one visit "the grapes" there, have a great time mate..

2.) 01 Nov 2018 23:07:06
Mate go to the Cuban place think it’s called Alma de cuba (rubbish spelling) have to book a table for a meal though alright u won’t get in. from 10 pm onwards the place is full with fit women an hardly any blokes.

3.) 02 Nov 2018 02:36:33
Cheers for the suggestion chaps will definitely give them a look!

4.) 02 Nov 2018 02:51:58
The Grapes haha class shout Ed, they've always got a lot of great beers on and there are a lot of 'characters' that frequent the place. Definitely worth a visit. Alma de Cuba is fine but extortionately priced - if you fancy a cocktail and go there don't expect anything under 10 quid, which means if you're trying to buy a drink for a lucky lady (as well as a drink for yourself) you're going to be paying, if you only order a pint of beer (close to a fiver in there), upwards of 15 quid.

I think it depends what type of places your into mate, are you looking to dance and listen to thumping music? the concert square and nearby would probably be the go? If you're into old skool music and dancing and stuff then Matthew street all the way. Are you looking for a good craic but without the music? Then as Ed said the baltic triangle is decent, you could try a few gaffs on Bold Street too as they're quite classy and have some great food, or you could head near China town to a few roguish bars that definitely play music (I went to see an up and coming 'punk-metal' band there, awful band but it was a good craic) . If your after quality beer (which I often am) then Hardman Street is the go as near and around there are plenty of great pubs with smashing beer. There's also a whisky bar there with a huge selection of quality whiskys - pro-tip: do not go there after you've already had a skinful, you will inevitable waste a tenner or more or an quality, expensive glass of whisky and be too drunk to truly appreciate it.

There are some strip joints dotted around the centre of town but, having only been to a couple a long time ago, I found them incredibly expensive and not at all fun just awkward and somewhat depressing.

You could also try Bongo's Bingo (around baltic triangle ways) as well - I've never been but it has been reported to me that it is a ton of fun. Make of that what you will.

Alternatively, make your way to Old Swan (my neck of the woods in Liverpool though I now live in Taiwan) and treat yourself to some pints under 2 quid and some everyday theater. My enduring memory from the last time I was home was a mother and daughter and baby coming in, clearly sky high on cocaine, at about 12 midday (I was there watching the World cup - not an alcoholic I promise), chatting the bartenders ear off, sitting down, getting up 5 minutes later to inform the barman that her friend had 's*** herself', then arguing with the barman after her refused to serve her anymore drinks (wise choice), then trying to steal another punters drinks on the way out, then doing the shouty crackhead thing upon leaving like all this was the barman's fault. Good times all round mate!

5.) 02 Nov 2018 10:36:52
Depends on what floats your boat.
The Baltic Triangle is full of Hipster-esque venues, but there's probably more variety in a small area for you there. The Baltic Fleet pub is also there and is great. (though Liverpool city centre isn't that big really) .
If real ale is your thing, there are plenty of very good alehouses but the best is the Ship and Mitre on Dale St.
Mathew Street for the tourists - Flanagan's Apple Irish pub (not a rubbish, manufactured Irish pub) is in Mathew St.

Hardman St has plenty of bars on too and some decent food places.
Just wander around and you'll find somewhere.



31 Oct 2018 01:30:21
Watched a cracking show on Sky earlier chaps with Fowler watching some and discussing some of his highlights alongside Gary Neville. Said a few interesting things such as he much preferred scoring tap ins and got a greater sense of satisfaction from them as opposed to his worldys such as his volley against Villa. He said any mediocre player on his day can pull one out of the bag and hit a beauty but when he scored the poachers efforts he felt like he was doing his job for the team.

He also made a good point about managers he played for that I never really thought about. Said that the likes of Shearer and Owen had teams built around them and their strengths at club and international level. But he never really got that. I suppose Mcmanaman and then Owen and later on Gerrard were the ones the team was centred around during his time. Real shame because I worshipped him when I was a kid and was really nice to see some moments I forgot. Worth a look if you get a chance!


1.) 31 Oct 2018 06:06:48
My all time favourite player.

2.) 31 Oct 2018 07:15:06
He’s the reason I support Liverpool, idolised him growing up and then when he left I had a choice, follow the player of the club and as they say the rest is history.

Favourite moment will always be the celebration along the touch line to though.

3.) 31 Oct 2018 07:59:55
He's an absolute legend, what a player, what a man, what a legend! My boy wasn't around when Fowler was playing but the other day he was watching youtube videos of him lol he's red through and through, I was so happy to see it. Many youngsters now won't know who the legends of the game are! luckily my lad knows all about Fowler (he had no choice tbh) .

Thanks for the recommendation Bledd, will have to try and find it mate.

4.) 31 Oct 2018 08:21:10
My fav player growing up. Absolute cracking player and seems to come across great in interviews too.

5.) 31 Oct 2018 09:35:38
Went to an agent with him and mcateer at the end of last year. Really interesting and hilarious stories which I wouldn’t repeat on the forum. Incredibly nice guy.

6.) 31 Oct 2018 14:44:11
No surprises that Walter’s all time favourite player is Gary Neville 😬.

7.) 31 Oct 2018 19:35:17
Fowler was a magnificent player, hands down.

8.) 01 Nov 2018 07:29:30
I haven't seen him in his glory days but from the enormous amount of respect and awe of his natural talent from you guys especially Ed001 who will just time travel to that period through the memories felt I missed something. But this is a new one. Team not around him but still got lots of admirers means that's some talent. Some will ask me to check highlights but those can make anyone worldie.

9.) 01 Nov 2018 16:45:02
He genuinely was stg. I work with an Arsenal fan who was only saying the other day he was one of his favourite players. Best thing about him was he didn't look like he should be that good! Never lightning fast but so technically good and clever. That's why despite the trophies Houllier won it always leaves a sour taste the way he got rid of Fowler.



07 Oct 2018 18:13:00
Ed001 hope you're well matey. Watching the City game and was wondering- do you think our lack of zip and pressing is an intentional ploy? Obviously we've had quite a challenging month fixture wise so do you think we've been conserving slightly to get through the month?


{Ed001's Note - yes mate, it is a change of style to conserve energy for a long season as the sports science said the player levels dropped in the run in last season.}

1.) 07 Oct 2018 18:55:51
Are you overall happy with the result Ed mate? I must say I am, I thought we'd win but when I think about the recent set of games I'll take a draw no problem. Time for winning ways again though against Huddersfield, god help them!

{Ed001's Note - I think your namesake, my mate, is a Jonah, so no. Since he has been coming round to watch you play we haven't won. I have told him he will be banned if we don't start winning. It is all his fault I reckon.}

2.) 07 Oct 2018 19:03:06
Chelsea away, Tottenham away and city at home and joint top, I'll take that.

3.) 07 Oct 2018 19:04:14
Thought as much it's a long old season and we don't want to burn out! Cheers ed have a good one.

{Ed001's Note - exactly, and a bunch of the players never had a proper pre-season either with the World Cup.}

4.) 07 Oct 2018 19:23:18
Well we have to blame somebody ed mate, so yeah I agree he has to be the one to blame, ban him immediately! lol.

Just as a side note I need to mention Hendo today, what a performance by the lad, if he carries on playing like that he'll prove a hell of a lot of doubters wrong. Absolute class performance and best player on the pitch imo.

{Ed001's Note - Hendo did do well but you will never convince the doubters.}

5.) 07 Oct 2018 19:35:34
I think Hendo is an easy target salah, cos he isn’t a star name when thing goes wrong he takes all the stick. He always seems crucial against city.

6.) 07 Oct 2018 19:56:54
Think we are missing the Ox attacking midfielder linking with the front 3
Could shaquiri fit into that role he sems to have a good work rate.
Can we affors to go more attacking given that the defence and goalie looks much more solid.

7.) 07 Oct 2018 20:07:06
Hendo had a good game, especially towards the end, made some fantastic tackles and interceptions!
Show’s how far we’ve come when City set up the way they did today.

We now look solid at the back, just can’t wakt until we really click into gear.

8.) 07 Oct 2018 20:08:28
I take the points but not the front three. Time to shed the usual excuses “ we haven’t clicked yet” “ not got into the second gear”. Sorry but get used to it guys! That front ain’t going to blast teams of anymore. Need to find goals elsewhere. If kieta isn’t pumping the balloon then we need Shaqiri! Why did we sign him?

9.) 07 Oct 2018 20:54:12
I agree, maybe Shaqiri should have replaced either Salah or Mané. The front three won’t blast teams away like last season because both Mané and Salah thrive on space in behind the back line, teams, like city did to today, will look to nullify this. We struggled last season to break down teams that “park the bus “ so it’s nothing knew!

I think we’ve been playing bang average but ( apart from the Napoli game ) we are creating chances. Just not converting them.

Do we need more creativity from midfield? Yes, I just hope Keita and I’m sure he will, help in this area. We have an industrious midfield that enables the front three to attack in confidence, especially as the defence is so much more assured.

One thing is for sure, we need more goals from Midfeld.

10.) 07 Oct 2018 20:13:14
Hendo did have a good game today. But why can’t people say he has a bad game when he has a bad game. The rest of the team get it. He’s not being picked on. If he plays well then fans say he plays well. When he plays poor then the people who say it aren’t proper fans apparently.

11.) 07 Oct 2018 20:48:15
I’m not sure why Harry takes pleasure in finding faults with the team but it’s pretty irritating. The system has clearly changed this season, we are not pressing as hard and the front 3 are getting less chances in front of goal we are however more solid at the back because teams aren’t beating the press (because it’s selective and less often now) . It’s obvious that Klopp has shifted tack we won’t be as entertaining as last year but also we won’t finish 20 points behind city.

12.) 07 Oct 2018 20:57:30
Either Keita or Shaqiri need to be starting and with Milners injury they may get a chance. We do need the Ox that is for sure. Mane has been woeful the past few games yet it is Salah getting all the stick.

The international break is much needed imo because we look spent after this run of games. Everyone in that napoli match was dead on their feet, and Ed001 is spot on with his analysis that we are trying to conserve energy during recent matches. Under the circumstances i’ll take a win and two draws from the Chelsea, Spurs and City games. I do think our lack of intensity today was planned and we did go out to win the game in the second half, but both teams cancelled eachother out. With Huddersfield and Cardiff coming up in quick succession we have to return to top form because their managers will be looking for a reaction after their recent games and we really need to improve our goal difference.

13.) 07 Oct 2018 22:13:10
I am not taking any pressure here. Just pointing out facts and areas for concern and improvement. It’s up to you to understand it. Liverpool and Chelsea are the closest to challenge city and we did even come close to beating them today. We were extremely lucky to get a draw today.

I don’t think it is the system that is stopping us from scoring. Pressing should always be our “Motto”. End of! we are counter pressing team who relies heavily on full backs to offer width and our front three are wide inside forwards. That much is clear and I don’t think there is any need to change this as we have now “Strength in depth”.

You don’t win football matches without scoring goals and it doesn’t matter what system you play you got to score one more than the other.

This whole changing tactics remind of Brebdan post Suarez. And he got dog abused for changing tactics which worked brilliant in his second season. From high pressing to possession.

We don’t create much simply coz we don’t create much! Hardly anything to do with system. You got to be creative to creat chances.

I don’t know what you mean by “ industrial midfield “. We have a “ Workman midfield” less creative than the likes of Silva and KDB. Which is exactly why we rely so much on Mane ( Now dropping deeper ) and Firmino.

Go watch and that pass from Silva to set up Mahrez in the blink of an eye. That was so quick it took our entire midfield out from the game. We got to release the ball Quicker and transition needs to be faster!

14.) 07 Oct 2018 21:16:20
We simply need to drop one CM for an attacker. Why are we playing with 3 Workman, less creative CM’s at home against any opposition? City plays with only one out and out Center midfielder and the other two are purest form of playmakers!
Most of our CM’s are now converted holding midfielders. Play Shaqiri in the middle!

15.) 07 Oct 2018 23:00:03
Harry? Talking facts? I must have drank my lunch, lol. As long as Klopp is not signing the players, playing the style or picking the lineup that HE wants, it's all doom and gloom and finding faults with this or that. Like he just said what City do in midfield, meaning why can't we play the way City does. See what I mean? Clearly it has not occurred to him that we DID play with Shaq in the no. 10 vs Saints and we afforded too much space and Klopp had to fix it at half time BUT he conveniently forgets that fact.

The fact of the matter is that we have changed our way of playing, as Ed said. Klopp has become more pragmatic cos last season, if we did not play well, we would NOT win. To win, we had to blitz teams. That for anyone with a functioning brain, means that such a style is UNSUSTAINABLE for a whole season if you want to be in the title hunt in the run-in. That is what Klopp is doing. In today's game, the main thing is NOT to lose it if you cannot win it. We got lucky with the missed penalty and we move on BUT we still need to improve and I'm sure Klopp does not need to be told that by anyone.

16.) 07 Oct 2018 23:42:00
What’s this? I’ve just got back from the game and thought I’d check in. Business as usual, Harry is moaning about the team again.
I thought today it was more City changing their usual way of playing because Pep didn’t want to take another hiding. That’s the least percentage of possession they’ve had since he took charge.
It very nearly worked for them but they wouldn’t have deserved it had the penalty gone in. Both teams cancelled each other out due to their tactics.
8 games gone, Chelsea, Spurs away and City at home played, unbeaten and joint top. I’ll take that.

17.) 07 Oct 2018 23:45:30
Salah, Mane and Firmino looked great against West Ham.
Then the club reported Salah to the police and they haven’t looked anywhere near as sharp since.

Could be coincidence but Salah’s form, the movement and understanding of the front 3 have just disappeared since that incident.

18.) 08 Oct 2018 03:26:14
Ya can tle a scytrgun approach and break it down as much as ya want to. We beat City last year and looked easily their equal yet finished miles behind em in the league.

19.) 08 Oct 2018 09:02:33
Ron, I really do enjoy your posts but your last one is clutching on straws mate.

20.) 08 Oct 2018 09:15:02
Too many people looking for reasons and answers to our recent front 3 conundrum and flatness of our midlfield. Sometimes in sports it just doesn't happen and Liverpool are going through that spell. We've arguably played the hardest fixtures (league and CL) and we are still sitting pretty on the top or nearer the top in both. It's scary to think that our front 3 haven't clicked yet and that for me keeps me optimistic about the title race.

21.) 08 Oct 2018 14:17:59
I'm good with that analysis there, Para. Ron, that post is a bit of a head-scratcher to be fair.

22.) 08 Oct 2018 15:21:46
Hmmm a think too much is getting made out of nothing here, we have had a run of games that wasn't the easiest and have come out of it in not to bad shape imo.
One thing a will say is that we now have a squad and klopp needs to trust in them a little more than he is. Like Napoli thru week ad of not played 2 of our front 3 and used sturridge and shaq to make sure they were as healthy as poss today.
Still up to now our season is in pritty good knick onwards and upwards a few easier so called games on the way let's get behind the red men YNWA.

23.) 08 Oct 2018 15:22:24
Did we even had a shot on target in the last two games! Is this the new way of playing? Sorry i don’t know guys! I don’t know what a few are going to credit Huddersfield if we don’t win that one!

24.) 08 Oct 2018 15:27:13

Playing Shaqiri leaves space? Why would it matter? We play with 2 holding mid anyways in Hendo and Wiji! What’s the need of another CM? Could you explain?
Could you tell me what would have happened had we signed Fekir instead of Shaqiri assuming the front three are all picked?
Playing pragmatic football to win the title in the long run? We ll need to wait and see in May!
If we were scoring goals nobody would be uttering a word about “Pragmatic football” now lol.

25.) 08 Oct 2018 17:01:26
Head scratcher? Clutching at straws?

At the end of the day, the front 3 looked great against West Ham and haven’t played with the same movement and understanding since. It’s a fact that the phone incident was after the West Ham match.

I think Salah is feeling unappreciated. I don’t think he’s right, I think the club acted correctly, but I think it may have hurt Salah.

26.) 08 Oct 2018 19:34:49
Under-appreciated? There was a young fan who ran on the field just to give him a hug. The guy is mobbed everywhere he goes and he is under-appreciated? Just wow. While you're at it, do you have any info on this or did this come from the fever swamps of the LFC conspiracy theorists? Like I said, Still a headscratcher, bro.

27.) 09 Oct 2018 07:17:24
Unappreciated by the club (who reported him to the police), not the fans (who have him a hug)

{Ed001's Note - the club were legally obligated to report him Ron. It was nothing to do with appreciation.}

28.) 09 Oct 2018 19:16:58
Thanks, Ed. The club had to do it and I'm sure Salah understands that cos he is that intelligent.




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25 May 2019 15:30:25
My sentiments too bhayne. Looks decent the times I've seen him and is a grafter which Klopp likes. Case of snobbery me thinks.




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24 May 2019 16:31:51
Gotta ask why would it be nonsense?




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12 Apr 2019 13:41:37
Thought Hazard was all set for Dortmund? Also he doesn't play for Leverkusen does he?




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21 Oct 2018 13:11:42
Bang on ed. Nothing sums it up more than when Firmino came on yesterday- we broke and he had Salah right and Shaqiri in a better position to the left. Last season you'd put your house on him finding the right pass but yesterday he just kind of rolled it to the opposition.

I think our attack needs Firmino to play well more than the others and he seems to he struggling lately. But we know his quality and I'm sure he'll play his way in to form.


{Ed0333's Note - as I say mate I’m hopeful they’ll get the telepathic incisive passing back. One things for sure it really can’t get any worse. And when it does well start beating teams comfortably. I think the ball needs to be played quicker/slicker from midfield to the ‘Fab 3’ for some unknown reason we seem to be a bit pedestrian in that department this season and our performances reflect it. Another thing that is certain Adam Lalana is not the answer. Give me all the stick you want but I’m not a fan and he’s not even worthy of a place on the bench. I’d rather have Curtis Jones.



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30 Sep 2018 07:48:03
Think he needs a stretch on the sidelines to be honest. Similar to what Klopp is doing with Keita and Fabinho- ease him back gently. I do vaguely remember mind he was a bit off the boil at the start of last season because people were criticising his finishing so I think he will come out of it.





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19 Aug 2019 10:46:37
My favourite Sanches moment was when he passed to the advertising hoarding. Another example of Swansea's poor business we were discussing the other week ed.




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17 Aug 2019 21:51:54
To be fair ed025 you wouldn't have thought it was very likely the first time! Lightning can strike twice.


{Ed025's Note - it certainly can bledd, who would have thought that after karius you would employ another butterfingered waste of space.. :)



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13 Aug 2019 10:44:47
Cheers ed I can see the benefit were Inter to loan a youngster out to a Serie B club. Like you said the smaller club gets a promising young player and Inter would be getting a player developed and hopefully fulfilling their potential.

What I don't get is Perisic being loaned to Bayern. Is there really any more development for an established 30 year old? Likewise James Rodriguez. Is it simply a case of wanting them off the wage bill but nobody being able to afford their transfer fees and wages outright?

Many thanks for the response.


{Ed001's Note - it is a loan to buy move so gives Bayern, who are having a complete rebuild, an extra year to gather funds and ensure they can stay within FFP regulations.}



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13 Aug 2019 10:40:32
JK you'd make a cracking politician mate! Give a brilliant answer to a question that wasn't asked 😂.




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13 Aug 2019 10:08:53
Sad to see Ed that one man's mismanagement can affect a club so much. They're quite local to me so it was nice to see them rebuild after their difficulties and get to the big time with a good brand of football. Same with Southampton but they seem to have wised up after a few bad decisions and got a good manager there.

I also meant to ask what is the attraction with these long term loans between big clubs. I've seen a few go through and wondered what the benefits to both sides were to a 2 season loan over a straight up transfer?


{Ed001's Note - Southampton have had the sense to go back to their plan thankfully. They should be ok in the long term.

The benefits for the loaning club are they can basically farm the player's development out to someone else, while earning money from him. At the end of the time, they have an asset they can sell on or a player who should be ready for the first team.

For the loanee club, they get a player they would probably never be able to get otherwise. However it is a very short term way for them to work and I personally think loans should only be used in emergency cases. If you are having to do it every season, then you need to look at how you run your club. The fact that pretty much every lower league club has to pad out their squad with loans from the higher levels tells me the game is in a mess.}