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28 Feb 2017 09:10:40
I think Gary Neville summarised our performance well last night when he asked 'where was the energy'.
We all know that we are very likely to concede soft goals and pack the team with midfielders. But when all those midfielders don't put the effort in we end up with a shambolic performance like at Leicester. And Hull. And Sunderland etc.
It's a massive part of our game and if we don't put it in we end up dominating the stats- possession, attempts (usually long range), corners etc. except for the one that really matters.
I hate it when we don't even compete. Hate it!

Rigsby

{Ed002's Note - The energy was left in Spain after Klipperty had the players do another pre-season when they could have had a break.}


1.) 28 Feb 2017 09:53:43
Surely a "pre-season" at this stage of the season should be a doddle because the players should already be at peak fitness.
Why do they need a break?
I agree with the "pre-season" because if you're not playing for 16 days you will lose fitness.
It's different if it's a "winter break" because every team is in the same boat.

{Ed002's Note - So it was a doddle Ron, no one came back with muscle injuries and Liverpool dominated their first game back. I appreciate that Klipperty is someone the Liverpool fans get the Kleenex out for, but he remains a long, long way from being a top class coach.}


2.) 28 Feb 2017 13:27:29
Reminds me of Brendan sending Sterling to Jamaica for a mid week break lol.


3.) 28 Feb 2017 13:59:09
Which means we should have increase energy levels after recovering from this Leicester exertion for Arsenal? That should further reinforced our RobinHood status in bpl as anti flat track bully.


4.) 28 Feb 2017 14:28:56
It can't be argued. Liverpool looked done last night. I wonder what Souhampton done in their 2 weeks off?


 

 

04 Dec 2016 23:40:02
Does anyone else think that Emre Can is too slow? I don't just mean physically. He can't compensate for it like an Alonso or a Jan Molby with his technique, so he ends up taking half a dozen touches when two will do.
Lovren is just too slow.
And how hard can it be to find a half decent goalkeeper?

Rigsby

1.) 05 Dec 2016 01:09:53
So after our second defeat, Can, who was excellent in the game, is now too slow?


2.) 05 Dec 2016 08:40:01
He can be lethargic at times but it's really his mental game that is his weakness, not really any of his physical attributes. If he had the tactical nous of a good midfielder he wouldn't have to be quick, but he doesn't. I would say can is improving going forward but offers very little defensively as he has done pretty much since he's been here. I hope he improves that part of his game otherwise midfield is an area we will definitely have to highlight as a problem area in the summer, I would have summer before this season tbh but manager thought differently.


3.) 05 Dec 2016 18:28:20
No, Hamilton Red, he was too slow before the game; I never mentioned yesterday's game.
He's not a bad player but we play a high tempo game and he lacks pace over the first five or ten yards and takes too long on the ball before getting us going forward.


4.) 05 Dec 2016 19:02:17
I don't think he's slow, but sometimes he does take the momentum out of a counter attack.


 

 

16 Oct 2016 09:15:09
I'd like the views of Eds and other Reds on Gary Neville's comments. He reckons we try and blow teams away early but could struggle later against United's power if we haven't done so on Monday.
He has a point-I do think we can look lightweight and United do have some powerful lads- but what's to stop us addressing that with substitutions?
If we did start to flag, we could bring on the likes of Can, Lucas, Grujic, Origi, Klavan (and move Milner further forward) who haven't been starting and are all six footers or thereabouts.
Your thoughts, please.

Rigsby

1.) 16 Oct 2016 09:57:32
I can't believe I'm going to say this but Neville has a point. The main thing for us Monday night is patience. Yes Liverpool are going to hit them wave after wave but we also have to be patient the longer it takes us to score. Utd have no game changers in the squad we have plenty so I'm quietly confident Red's.
YNWA.


2.) 16 Oct 2016 10:05:41
He's right when he says we do try and blow teams away early. That was always a tactic that Shanks and Paisley advocated - try and get a shot on goal early, put your opponents on the back foot. It's a good tactic IMO.

I don't know what he perceives as "United's power"? They have some quick players who, if they come on against tired teams, can have an effect but they are nothing special.

We didn't blow Arsenal away early, we didn't blow Chelsea away early and we didn't blow Swansea away early - we still won those games. We are not one trick ponies.

I have only 2 concerns for this game:
1) Rooney: he is always inspired for games against us and he is currently receiving loads of flack, so he will be hugely up for this game.
2) If we faff about with it in defence we will come a cropper. I would limit the team to 3 touches in our own defensive third of the field before it has to go long.


3.) 16 Oct 2016 10:39:17
Not sure I subscribe to Neville's comments. I expect us to have more of the ball, in turn working United harder. If anything I expect United legs to go as the game wears on. Purely mind games from Neville.


4.) 16 Oct 2016 11:02:21
I think he is absolutely right. If we get our shots away early, dominate the first half, and maybe get a goal or two, 99% of the time those are the games we win.

If the other team frsutrate us and it doesn't seem like our day, we panic, shoot from 35 yards and fail to score.

A physical team like united could then capitalise on this in the last 30 minutes of the game while we are demoralized and have switched off.

I think such a scenario is highly likely, especially when that is exactly what happened to us last year against united.


5.) 16 Oct 2016 11:42:12
On the plus side regarding the defense Skerts is gone. In other words no more stupid needless last gasp tackles which resulted in free kicks on the edge of the box putting us under pressure. Phew!


6.) 16 Oct 2016 12:51:22
Our team looks a lot fitter than uniteds.
The game will be tiring for both sides but we should be fresher in the last 10 mins, maybe even grab a 4th or 5th goal near the end against their tired legs ;)


7.) 16 Oct 2016 13:01:11
I'm sorry but United have no game changers is a poor comment, I know we are rivals but you got to say ibra is, Rooney can be, Mata can be, Pogba can be, rashford can be. They may be playing poorly or not to full potential, but they can all change games in an instance.


8.) 16 Oct 2016 13:22:56
We will blow them away inside 30 mins so I wouldn't worry about it 😎.


9.) 17 Oct 2016 00:03:43
Nevilles comments make no sense. Every team tries to blow away the other team in the first twenty minutes of every game in order to grab a foothold in the game. His own Utd teams used to do that especially at home as you always look to set the tone early. This is why as the away team, you want to weather the storm in the first twenty to half hour and then mount your own phase of pressure. He's not teaching anybody anything in this respect. Also, we are also a far fitter team than before and if the coach and players can manage the tempo of the game effectively, we will still have enough in the tank to push on in the final thirty minutes. The guy is preaching to the choir and has taught me absolutely nothing on this topic.


 

 

19 May 2016 21:58:58
Eds and everyone else, what are your views on Coutinho? For me, has ability but he just doesn't do enough. Last night- and in many big games- the game just passed him by.
Maybe it's the players around him.
I mean the other two number 10's are the same and if Sturridge plays we look light in midfield.
I just can't make my mind up about him.
Cheers.

Rigsby

1.) 19 May 2016 22:56:20
I'm kind of the same. He is still young but he is very one dimensional. Can only go right. he needs to improve but I believe he will.


2.) 19 May 2016 23:11:36
Agreed. 3 CAMS (number 10's) is not the best situation playing in the three roles in the 4-2-3-1 formation. I think it should consist of 1 number 10 and 2 wingers who can be inverted- the Reus type players and even the Milner type who can get up an down, invert and can add industry to midfield if the 2 holders are getting swarmed.


3.) 19 May 2016 23:26:41
I disagree. He is our best player, and has shown on plenty of times his pedigree in big games. Man Utd and Dortmund in the Europa League, Man City, Spurs and Chelsea in the PL, Man City in the League Cup Final, West Ham in the FA Cup replay are all examples of his big game contributions this season alone. This he doesn't perform on the big stage is absolute nonsense IMO, and has evidently been the difference in big games.

I agree he can still improve and be consistent, but he has shown that he has improved every season he has been here, and I think Klopp can make him go another level.


4.) 19 May 2016 23:50:20
He seems a great lad and there is no doubting he has a great talent, but we don't see that talent demonstrated as often as we need to.
To be fair wide forwards are often accused of drifting out of games, when it is more down to the ball not reaching their area very much- but
If we seriously want to challenge for a CL place, we need a left sided forward who will be a constant thorn in the side of the opposition. We need a player with a great touch, good finishing, energy, vision, good pace, a non stop battling attitude and clever fast one touch attacking play.
He has all those things (except perhaps the fighting attitude), but we just don't see them often enough.
He needs to pick up his game and soon, or I think Klopp will be trying out other players in his position, and he may end up losing his automatic starting place, as crazy as that might sound.
I would rather sacrifice some of that magic touch for more consistency and a stronger presence throughout a game.
Last night was not the first game where his contribution has been minimal- there have been a dozen games like that this season.


5.) 19 May 2016 23:54:53
I agree with both replies. I don't like playing all three of them; they all want to play centrally.
I'd have sacrificed one of them and stiffened the midfield up. Or just played one of them, gone two up top and still have the extra midfielder. We have no real wide players so why ask attacking midfielders to fill in there? I'd sooner have another striker and ask them to drift out wide. At least Sturridge and Origi offer more pace and power if not ideally suited to the role.


6.) 20 May 2016 04:44:43
Are there people having a pop at Phil?! Oh my God!


7.) 20 May 2016 06:07:24
He is a magnificent player who gets no help from others around him most of the games except Firmino. The players behind him are useless at best. We look upto him week in week out and that's a pressure on the lad.
3 years and over £300 mill spend and still the most critical player in the squad. He is having the same issues as Sanchez at Arsenal. Too much pressure and expectations.


 

 

25 Oct 2015 19:54:07
Pass the ball! A lot of them want too much time, too many touches and to shoot themselves.
Everything is too slow but that's down to the players and not the tactics.
Rodgers had a few years at the club and the only way he could give us any width was by playing wing backs.
It's really frustrating to watch and it must be for Klopp, too.

Rigsby

1.) 25 Oct 2015 20:03:41
Too many centre midfielders on the pitch. Lucas Can Milner Lallana Coutinho. They all play through the middle and it's slow boring and predictable. We need some exciting FAST talented players.


2.) 25 Oct 2015 20:28:39
Milner is rubbish. Lucas and can looked good but not enough options when going forward. Lallana started playing ok in second half when he had an option. We have been packed out with loads of number 10s and missing some fast attacking wingers. Markavic! Just want January to hurry along now. Please 😁.


3.) 25 Oct 2015 21:35:50
You can thank the former manager for collecting so many CM options with no idea of what or where to play them.


 

 

 

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He's a one hit wonder and 'Rock Me Amadeus' was rubbish, anyway.

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19 Aug 2017 09:49:19
Ed001 has clearly never seen Mignolet's kicking!

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{Ed001's Note - I have, that is the problem, they are not scared of him because every time he tries to kick someone's arse he misses....}


 

 

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05 Feb 2017 09:50:08
Perhaps we could play rush goalie.
I mean, defence doesn't really matter, does it? We play with two midfielders in the back four anyway.
And push our midfielders up top, so not only can we not stop conceding we can't score either.
It makes for lots of unthreatening possession football though.
Great! Haha.

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31 Jan 2017 23:30:48
Can did not have a good game.
He looks lost to me.

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31 Jan 2017 23:30:48
Can did not have a good game.
He looks lost to me.

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31 Jan 2017 23:30:48
Can did not have a good game.
He looks lost to me.

Rigsby