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05 Apr 2019 01:23:34
Hello eds,

I notice often in your replies regarding us getting a new foward in to the club, you say this would likely be at the cost of one of our top front 3 players having left.

Without sounding like im questioning your oppinion or knowlege negatively, and im aware you don't cite potential random replacements.

But what kind of forward could we get in without any first teamers leaving? Im thinking a young rising player willing to be rotated?

Thanks.

Snoots

{Ed002's Note - The problem is that people are asking about the likes of Dybala and Chiesa who would cost something like £90M to provide cover - it simply isn't going to happen without one of the preferred three leaving. Liverpool can't afford it and why would someone like Dybala move to Liverpool to sit on the bench? So Liverpool could look to a versatile player who is not quite so high profile and expensive, they could get the scouts working to find an up and coming player (plucking a Yussuf Poulsen or Krzysztof Piatek out of a lower ranked side), or they could perhaps give an opportunity to the likes of Rhian Brewster and Harry Wilson and integrate them in to the first team squad. Also, it needs to be remembered that adding players to the squad requires space to be made.}


1.) 05 Apr 2019 09:02:56
Suppose its when fans see (rashford, sanchez, martial, lukaku, Lingaard) at Utd, (aguero, sterling, mahrez, sane, jesus) at City, (higuain, pedro, willian, hazard) at Chelsea, (kane, moura, son, All, Eriksen) at Spurs they wonder why a club as big as Liverpool can't have 4 top levels footballers rotating the 3 attacking positiions. With 60 odd games a season surely each of them would get enough game time.

{Ed002's Note - Well, Manchester City have a problem with two of these players moaning about lack of game time; Manchester United have a huge problem with Sanchez and Lukaku is an out and out striker; Higuian is an out and out striker at Chelsea - but Pedro is available so maybe Liverpool could look at him. You are not comapring like for like. Liverpool also have Origi, Sturridge, sent Ings on loan, Brewster, Wilson and no doubt others. It is just yet another opportunity to whine. None of these clubs have spent £100M on players to be used for rotation. Maybe you should look to moving Klopp on if he is not bringing in the players you want?}


2.) 05 Apr 2019 09:41:16
Ed is right here Klopp said a few press conferences ago there won’t move much transfer activity this summer, we have Lallana, ox origi and shaq to cover the flanks plus Brewster is now fit. I only see ya strengthening full back with a couple of younger players and maybe a reserve gk if migs moves on, I could also see both lovren and matip staying for now

Klopps words were it’s about improving the lads we have.


3.) 05 Apr 2019 10:17:58
There is a possibility to drop Bobby into the false 10 role rather than play him as a number 9 and have the return of the fab 4 with a new super number 9 striker being added but then you currently have Shaq, Lallana, Origi, Brewster, Wilson, The OX all filling in as cover. I believe we will get Rabiot in midfield on a so called "free", maybe a new Goalkeeper and a left back or centre back but no new attackers or I hope not as that would indicate someone will leave.

{Ed002's Note - Rabiot is moving elsewhere - it is nothing whatsoever to do with Liverpool.}


4.) 05 Apr 2019 10:29:07
It’s been pretty clear for most of the season that much of what happens with ins will depend on departures.

Moreno leaving makes a lb a priority, obviously the injury record of our cbs / rb area obviously needs thought.

Other than that unless a midfielder leaves where is the space for them to get into a match day squad, we can’t have players on 60k plus a week not even in a match day squad.

I’d like to think Lallana may move on maybe Milner idk would like him to stay one more season but he may want game time more which would perhaps allow a chance for Wilson to impress in pre season if he goes on loan then maybe that allows a new player to join. But we forget there’s a few out on loan to come back too so if anything it seems like departures is more important than ins atm.


5.) 05 Apr 2019 10:29:07
It’s been pretty clear for most of the season that much of what happens with ins will depend on departures.

Moreno leaving makes a lb a priority, obviously the injury record of our cbs / rb area obviously needs thought.

Other than that unless a midfielder leaves where is the space for them to get into a match day squad, we can’t have players on 60k plus a week not even in a match day squad.

I’d like to think Lallana may move on maybe Milner idk would like him to stay one more season but he may want game time more which would perhaps allow a chance for Wilson to impress in pre season if he goes on loan then maybe that allows a new player to join. But we forget there’s a few out on loan to come back too so if anything it seems like departures is more important than ins atm.


6.) 05 Apr 2019 10:43:20
Firminos worst form this season was playing at number 10 Carlos, he’s much better as a 9.


7.) 05 Apr 2019 11:13:22
Who said anything about £100m players, is it too much to have four players of EQUAL quality to cover the three attacking positions over a long season? The likes of Firmino, Mané and Salah may all be worth over £100m but the club have shown with these three there capable of getting players in for a fraction of their true worth.

{Ed002's Note - If you could be bothered to read the posts the players being craved are the likes of Dybala and Insigne. You need to find something else to whine embarrassingly about.}


8.) 05 Apr 2019 12:24:31
Looking at our overall squads I can see departures, sales or loans being

Mignolet - wants game time
Studge - out of contract
Ings - deal agreed with saints
Moreno - out of contract
Clyne- wants game time
Bogdan - out of contract
Ejaria - a few issues
Ojo - not developed as hoped
Chirivella - out of contract
Awoniyi - work permit issues
Kent - pre season will decide
Wilson - pre season will decide
Grujic - pre season will decide
Woodburn - possible loan
Randall - not developed as hoped
Allan - work permit issues
Shaqiri - may want more game time
Lallana - may want to move south
Milner - may want a Leeds return
Origi - one year left on contract but I believe he may stay.
Camacho - pre season to decide

Obviously all of these would depend on the offers being made to Liverpool and finding replacements for the first teamers. Randall and such like would not create holes in the squad and so would require no replacement as the next wave of youth players would fill the void.
From the sounds of klopps press conferences I do think he has high hopes for players such as Wilson, brewster and possibly Grujic for next season hence his reluctance in spending a large sum again. This is purely my own thoughts and no rumours or intelligence to back it up.


9.) 05 Apr 2019 12:29:14
So sell ox then? Lallanas getting back to his best, Naby and Keita rarely get a look in then there’s our youngsters Wilson, Brewster, Camacho, Jones, glatzel and Duncan. Origi is playing well too. I’d be surprised if we sign more than 3 players this summer.


10.) 05 Apr 2019 12:56:27
I think 3 aswell. cover for leftback who can also cover other positions, a creative midfielder nd an attacker who can play both out wide and central. The likes of Sessegnon, Havertz or Eriksen and pepe would be a great summer.


11.) 05 Apr 2019 13:19:33
Havertz or Eriksen? that Messi fella would be pretty solid as well.

Players like Shaqiri are about what Liverpool can bring in as backup's and even then sometimes players are priced out of a move. Clubs don't want to sell and Liverpool don't have the financial means to bring in half the players talked about, nor would those players want to move. These are players who are barely rotated, what's the appeal of becoming a rotation option? even if they get 20-30 odd games.


12.) 05 Apr 2019 13:37:51
The reality is that we been really spoiled on how well our buys turned out, to certain extent all our front 3 where purchased at what (in todays market ) can be seen as fair. Are we ever going to get similar quality as Salah for 39mil in todays market without assuring game time? Baring in mind Mo was not exactly the player we fans wanted but none the less he is our own today. I could be wrong but had we had our way we would probably have Brant or hyped flavor of season player who would feel by he must play week in week out based on his last name alone. I think what the eds are trying to say and i could be wrong is that even if the money was available would a Ronaldo even come our way looking at our front three and not be scared that he might actually not play without 1 of them leaving. such is how goood our players are! I honestly can't see a better winger than Mane at what he does (no 1). Than the matter of team spirit, imagine selling Salah for Lorenzo who we have no idea will turn out but without contrdicting my early stance, why risk the unknown if you really have the best? Such a risk might not only provoke others to consider thier options but again lead to another transition period. We all saw how long Bobby took to kick on would Dybala not delay us when we so close. The team will try get the right cover for our team but it might not be in the high profile player we all think it is.


13.) 05 Apr 2019 14:10:07
Ores dad I agree whole heartedly agree with your points and to add another train of thought, we all want Liverpool to get the best players but then we also want to see youth coming through. Klopp has to balance the desires of the youth players with true potential against the needs of the squad but I believe he does genuinely want to develop the players already there old and young above continually buying for the sake of it.


14.) 05 Apr 2019 17:00:44
Fully agree there Ohyoubeauty, to Klopps credit you have to look at what his done with majority of our player, Milly came in ass only a hard work who demand to play CM but look at him now, playing the best footie of his life, we knew Gini as a bit everything but mainly a late runner in the box to score goals but we all know when he really turns up he really turns up. Trent and Jo have improved under his watch. i don't think we need huge sums as our only stream of getting the best of the best. Look now and then a Virgil and Allison are needed but let's keep an open mind.


15.) 05 Apr 2019 17:19:04
Agree with you there eamon and sorry Naby but I completely disagree. We have enough cover in midfield and attack and any of those players you mentioned would need some sort of playing time.


16.) 05 Apr 2019 17:40:16
Eriksen walks into our midfield, With him and Fabinho it would be one of the rest to play with them.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..


17.) 05 Apr 2019 17:41:51
All three would get playing time, or should we just sign no one and not freshen up the squad at all.


18.) 05 Apr 2019 17:47:33
Enough with the talk about extreme outlandish options (Dybala, Insigne, even Werner) to play within a rotating front 3. That will never happen. I would like to see the team pursue Bergwijn or Brandt, or maybe even Lozano. I feel like one could be added to the group, and along with AOC and Shaqiri, and perhaps even Brewster, we'd have the proper depth to consistently line up in a 4-2-3-1 throughout the year.


19.) 05 Apr 2019 18:08:22
I think if another top attacker is brought in Shaquiri may want to move on.


20.) 05 Apr 2019 18:55:25
Ziyech would be great!


21.) 05 Apr 2019 20:56:22
Brandt.


22.) 06 Apr 2019 06:29:41
ed2, is richarlison one of those in the dybala bracket?

looking forward to seeing how we improve the squad. I'm tired of seeing our squad get built up to a certain point to then just recycle our best players.

{Ed002's Note - With the owners and Klopp intent on buying success Richarlison would be a £60M to £80M sub or a replacement for Mane.}


23.) 06 Apr 2019 15:43:18
Little Naby, my issue with Eriksen wasn't that he wouldn't play. Its that we couldn't afford him and that in his case Spurs would never sell to a rival, need to be semi realistic when throwing names out, this isn't football manager.

{Ed002's Note - Eriksen will not be moving to Liverpool.}


24.) 06 Apr 2019 22:42:39
Eriksen may not be moving to Liverpool Eamonsf but my point is that with a year left on his contract he is not going to be sold for anything like his real value so it is realistic and also if Eriksen DID want to join us Spurs wouldn't want it but again, with one year left and if the player wanted it Spurs would have little choice so you see its nothing like football manager. I see Ed002 says he won't be moving to Liverpool so its probably a nothing argument anyway.


25.) 07 Apr 2019 02:18:54
It’s pretty funny how Rashford and Lingard are used as examples of good squad depth. Rashford was a teenage kid who grabbed his chance which came about through injury. Lingard forced his way in from the youth teams.
We have to use our best young players otherwise why pay their wages?
Give Brewster some game time, use Origi more often. Let
Wilson play with the first team. Buying expensive replacements doesn’t always work out.


26.) 07 Apr 2019 08:21:21
ron, they're also awesome!


 

 

 

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08 Jan 2019 22:33:27
Trying to not come across as a bit thick here, bit where do i find the sharkopods? I don't see any buttons on site linking to them.

Snoots

{Ed025's Note - you can access them via the main page...or just type sharkopod into google and it will take you there mate..


1.) 09 Jan 2019 08:22:36
Or you can try YouTube.


 

 

01 Oct 2018 08:58:37
Also salah would have scored if it wasnt for rudiger clearing off the line, it was heading for the back of the net.

Snoots

1.) 01 Oct 2018 13:00:31
Snoots, that's a bit like saying he would have scored if he hadn't missed.


 

 

29 Sep 2018 18:29:03
Long time lurker, 3rd attempt at a worthy post! Just read an article on the irish times "mohamad salah os not a truly great winger" i agree with the article, in that salah is more a striker that starts his plays coming in from wide areas. Rather than him being a touchline hugging winger. My point being is i don't feel he is as effective this season playing from a central role up front as oposed to out wide like last season, do others feel this too? I would like to hear your opinions guys.

Snoots

1.) 29 Sep 2018 18:41:59
At this moment in time I'd agree. Hopefully he can get back to his best.


2.) 29 Sep 2018 19:10:45
I get the system we have requires our front 3 to float around and swap which does work great, iv just noticed this season he is playing long periods centraly in games. He doesn't have the skillset and strenght for hold up play against large defenders for me.
I don't know if klopp feels this change will help him with second season sydrome or being double marked while wide, but its not worling.


3.) 29 Sep 2018 19:46:08
Think klopp is trying to make it harder for the other teams to guess our play. Maybe salah will improve when 100% fit I don't think he's there yet.


4.) 29 Sep 2018 21:41:45
You are becoming less negative Walter 😁.


5.) 29 Sep 2018 22:05:19
Are we slowly changing you to be more positive Walter? ;) .


6.) 30 Sep 2018 01:28:14
OP if you knew how Salah was being used effectively at Roma, you would know that he was NEVER a winger. He was a striker, hovering in and around Edin Dzeko who was the target man. This is where he scored the near 20 goals in all comps. that he did while at the same time, serving as a foil for Dzeko who was Serie A leading scorer with 32 goals. Even Dzeko said he missed Salah cos he took a lot of pressure of him. So I don't know where you got this idea that Salah cannot play thru the middle whereas that is where he scored most of his goals last season. Also, him being strong enough to hold off bigger defenders, is really not true per se, IMO. Salah is deceptively strong and is able to hold off defenders, even bigger ones like Otamendi, Ogbonna, Alderweireld and Westergaard (of Saints who is 6ft 6') . I think tho, it is something he can improve on, IMO.


 

 

01 Jun 2018 21:33:10
In regards to the discussion of flares, it was only a week or two ago a group of fans set fire to thier own clubs stand with flares by accident. can't remember what league it was maybe belgium or dutch.

Snoots

1.) 02 Jun 2018 08:47:09
I don't get why 1 they get passed through security and secondly why grown men want to play with them. I personally think every club in the world should lifetime ban any idiot with a flare.


 

 

28 May 2018 23:27:44
Hi edds, is there a reason my posts aren't being put up? Iv been a long time lurker for several years here and have decided to sign up and post just recently, thanks.

Snoots

{Ed0333's Note - no one likes lurkers Snoots your routinely shunned by society.


 

 

 

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07 Jun 2018 12:40:25
Whether the sherdan shaqiri rumour is true or not i feel for the price in todays market he's a potential bargain.
He has everything in his locker skill and ability wise, he just need guidance to stay focused and apply himself.
Pretty much what klopp has done with the OX and lots of people didn't want him signing.

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07 Nov 2018 09:38:43
It would be ingeresting to see how many games liverpools regular front 3 and man citys regular front 3 have played over last 12 months, our guys look a shaddow of their selves last year.

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29 Sep 2018 19:10:45
I get the system we have requires our front 3 to float around and swap which does work great, iv just noticed this season he is playing long periods centraly in games. He doesn't have the skillset and strenght for hold up play against large defenders for me.
I don't know if klopp feels this change will help him with second season sydrome or being double marked while wide, but its not worling.

Snoots