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08 Jan 2018 09:38:12
Any news on club planning to offer new contract to firmino? I hear he gets 60 odd. Anyone know when the contract is expiring?


1.) 08 Jan 2018 10:15:36
No idea how true it is, but i read he gets a base salary of £68k a week, plus a £45k bonus per goal.

2.) 08 Jan 2018 10:18:12
I mentioned a few months back he wants to stay longer, not sure what’s happening now.

3.) 08 Jan 2018 10:28:39
Coutinho is a player we did not want to lose. Firmino is a player we cannot afford to lose. Keep this one happy at all costs I say.

4.) 08 Jan 2018 10:37:00
Christ! How must they manage on that pittance?

5.) 08 Jan 2018 10:55:34
My favorite player in the squad, even though I tend to swear in front of the TV when he misses some shots :D.

6.) 08 Jan 2018 11:15:31
Why would anyone ask that on the back of the FA investigation this week following the Derby?!?! I hardly think it’s priority number one right now!

7.) 08 Jan 2018 11:25:06
Its priority no. one right now to make sure your important players are tied down to a long term contract and are happy.

The investigation is just a formality. The real investigation should be how holgate did see red for that push.

8.) 08 Jan 2018 11:55:13
Fair enough PakRed. I can’t believe he wasn’t sent off or even get a yellow either, but subject to the outcome the dust would have to settle first before the thorny issue of a contract is approached.

{Ed002's Note - Firmino is contracted until 2020.}

9.) 08 Jan 2018 12:05:01
But in the end, how good is a long term contract. Both Suarez and Coutinho had been handed new improved and extended contracts multiple times. If a player wants out, he will eventually get on, one way or another. The only difference is that we can ask a higher price. I thinkbthe only way to avoid, or limit these enforcements, is to put in a sanctnificant sanction or fine for the player, if he mistreats his contract in a certain aspecs. But what "worldstar" would sign such deal, properly noone. Sometimes I would like football to have a draft system like in the NBA or NFL. Player prices and buyout clauses should be capped and priced by evaluation.

10.) 08 Jan 2018 12:53:20
I think these long terms contracts mean little regarding the player actually staying with the club, however, they do ensure the club gets top dollar when the player goes.

11.) 08 Jan 2018 13:27:05
Mk I think that was misinterpreted when he let mane score rather than tap it in, as he was due a bonus with his next goal!

12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:40:53
We should offer new terms asap for the player 2020 is not that far away.



25 Aug 2016 11:09:45
Reports linking us with Charlie Taylor of Leeds. Is there any truths to this ed?

I read a little bit on him and he's a left back who can also play left wing. Is on the last year of his contract and has handed over a transfer request.


{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach from Liverpool but both West Brom and Middlesbrough have spoken with Leeds about Mr Taylor.}

1.) 26 Aug 2016 16:01:05
LFC are not signing a LB this window. Expect Balo and some of the squad players to move on before end of the window. Perhaps a holding midfielder/ deep lying midfielder is the only possibility of anything coming in.


2.) 28 Aug 2016 02:43:55
I hear that Lucas leiva is a great holding mid. Should be pretty cheap too.



23 Oct 2014 09:00:07
Eds just read on metro that liverpool have lodged a 31.2 million bid for higuain? it doesn't say 'interested in' it says bid lodged, any truth to this?


{Ed002's Note - They are teasing you. No offer has been made. Liverpool might well be one of the interested clubs if he is made available for sale.}

1.) Yes that is a bid odd, although i'm not sure if higuain is such a good idea as you hear that he is a very lazy player.

I think we need a player like lavezzi who can have similar effects as suarez in terms of work rate and inspiring others. I know he is not a very good finisher but people forget that suarez early in his pool career was all huff and puff and not great finishing, so maybe rodgers can help lavezzi with that

2.) JOURNALIST: BR, BR, how do you plan on helping your defense get back to any sort of form.

BR: I'll tell you how sir. MORE STRIKERS!




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10 Feb 2020 09:49:33
Hi Ed,

Is it possible to get a player profile for Steve Macmanaman?

Never saw him play but its said he and fowler carried liverpool through the 90s. Would love to get your view and perspective on him.


{Ed001's Note - I have added him to the list.}

1.) 10 Feb 2020 17:21:19
He was brilliant mcmanaman really exciting scored great goals, but was bit of a flat track bully didn't do it in the big games an if he was a lolly ice there would be none of himself left.

2.) 10 Feb 2020 18:50:00
What are you talking about. didn't do it in the big games? He single handed best bolton wanderers in the league cup final. He was excellent. Real madrid didn't come come knocking for nothing. And I'm sure he scored in champions league final for madrid.
Talking nonsense hailstones.

3.) 10 Feb 2020 20:06:20
Did he not score in 2 CL finals or am I just making it up?

4.) 10 Feb 2020 21:07:41
I used to stand in the Kop and watch him. Brilliant skills but too often either cut back and slowed attacks down or tried to take on too many players or even the same player twice and lost it. Brilliant and frustrating in equal measures.

5.) 10 Feb 2020 21:08:59
Did he not score in 2 CL finals or am I just making it up?
He scored in the 2000 final and in the semi final of the 2002 campaign . He was great player but Hailstones is not wrong, Macca did go missing in some of the big games . with a bit more consistency he could've been one of the greats . He was as good technically as Ryan Giggs if not better, the difference was, Giggs produced in every game.

6.) 10 Feb 2020 23:10:32
I am talking about for liverpool I watched him every week I loved him, yes he scored in final vs Bolton but we should of won that game and we should of expected him too score or win the game, he never scored against united home or away or everton neither did he put in match winning performances against the big teams too contribute too winning leagues as in big games, compare him too another left winger at that time ryan Giggs an there's only one winner he was a match winner in big games for his club . Mcmanaman was class and great too watch but in the end dropped us like a sack of rubbish for nothing .

7.) 11 Feb 2020 02:37:19
Kind of pointless to argue that a goal or 2 in cup finals suggest a player can't be faulted for often disappointing in many other big moments. I liked his ability as a winger but he never reached that level where he could turn huge games enough with his quality like a number of former Liverpool players have done more regularly.

8.) 11 Feb 2020 18:43:02
I don't think I've seen anyone who could dance past someone like mcmanaman. There was Barnes of course, who could dance past players. But Steve just flew past them. If klopp had that team we'd have been dominant.

{Ed025's Note - very talented player robbie but never done it in an england shirt, then proved what an absolute shitbag he really was by running his contract down so that liverpool got nothing for him and he got the big signing on fee at madrid..

9.) 11 Feb 2020 23:17:02
Players run their contracts down ed025. They're not all rubbish bags mate. Maybe it was the only way Madrid would take him. I don't begrudge a player of his skill moving to a better team. We were at z low in those days. I was gutted at the time, but after so many years, fair play to him. There is life after Liverpool, and we can't hate every player who ever left us. If I did zn arya stark prayer I'd have to get out of bed before I've even fallen asleep

And he scored European Cup winning goals - so yeah, not a big game player at all lol. And I thought him and Anderton where pretty good in euro 96. In those days many players were guilty of not performing for England. Barnes always got that said of him (I thought he was decent tbf) I think there were too many cliques in those days.

{Ed025's Note - im a bit of an idealist i suppose robbie, i think liverpool treated him well and the fans loved him so to run your contract down and for the reds to get nothing for him seems a bit disloyal to me mate..



20 Jan 2020 08:27:08
So i am not going to assume we are winning the title. I will be like the team and take it game by game.

What I want to say is with how great this team is, individually and as a group and the mentality that has been instilled, it would be a shame if we do not win the lot. League, Champion's League and FA cup.

I think the team and the coach understand that and so they do not want standards to drop period.

One bad game or draw won't matter in the league but they do not want to deal with the effect it could carry to other competitions.


1.) 20 Jan 2020 11:19:17
We won’t win the FA Cup Pak purely because we will play a weakened team throughout the competition.
The other 2 are there for the taking though. A third CL final in a row is a massive, massive ask but this team is more than capable.

2.) 20 Jan 2020 16:07:13
When you say it like that BP, 3 finals in a row. It seems statistically difficult. But the first two were made and its about can this Liverpool team make the final this year and I think we have a massive shout. In fact, I think it's hard to bet against us.

3.) 20 Jan 2020 17:04:27
We certainly have a shout Robbie of course we are probably the best team in the competition. Added to that Klopp is still unbeaten in two legged football since he joined us so we should be confident.
I just feel like a spoilt brat after what we’ve done over the last 2 years to still expect more! 😂.

4.) 20 Jan 2020 19:28:17
Beckers I feel we could have a good chance to win the FA Cup depending what klopp wants to prioritise whether it be records or the cup. Shrewsbury away should be easy with a weakened team. But we have players back from injury that will want game time. After that the next round is over a month away by which time we could be 3 or 4 games away from the league. At which point you could start to invest more in the fa cup. As well as CL.

5.) 20 Jan 2020 19:38:54
I do not put a third CL final beyond this lot of Mental Monsters, lads. Not in the least bit. It will be tough, not doubt BUT if any team can esp. with the type of hell Anfield can unleash on visiting teams, it is Klopp's Red Arrows.

As for the FA Cup, play the kids and let them gain experience cos like it or not, Klopp intends to fast-track the good ones to the fist team.

6.) 21 Jan 2020 00:58:02
If we take care of Shrewsbury and get another nice draw then suddenly we're in the latter rounds of the cup, by which time I expect us to be closing in on the league. Fa cup is weekend matches not an extra midweek fixture distraction, we can play stronger teams in this situation if we have a healthy squad.

Regarding champions league I see us as the favourites and much stronger than our previous 2 campaigns because right now the big teams like Barca, Madrid, Bayern, juve or city are all showing vulnerability this season and we are the only top team currently at peak of our powers and especially strong over 2 legs. Even the next tier of quality with likes of spurs, Chelsea, Atletico Madrid, Dortmund etc aren't enjoying consistency or form. I think we couldn't have a better chance to assert our dominance and create history if we just continue to stay as focused as we've been to date.
Remember last season we fought a title battle to the death while going for Europe too. Hopefully league comfort may let us have the chance to shift focus to cup plans in coming months.



12 Dec 2019 10:09:37
Eds do you think we need covering at full back in winter window? preferably someone who can play both side or if not then a left back.

Or do you think Klopp is thinking of youth to fill in if needed? i felt that way in the beginning of the season but i have yet to see any youth team players in match day squad and getting some minutes.


{Ed001's Note - well if we haven't needed to go to the youth yet then that suggests we have enough.}



15 Nov 2019 09:36:43
Since we are going through yet another horrible intl break thought i'd ask a couple of interesting questions from the forum here.

So if you could rewatch one match live without recollection of the final result which one would you want to relive?

I can't chose between the Barcelona comeback in the semi final 18/ 19 and the Final against Milan 05.

Barca 4 nil maybe edges it since its so fresh.


1.) 15 Nov 2019 10:03:38
2005 final no question!

2.) 15 Nov 2019 13:56:59
The game against Milan in 2005 was the worse game to watch apart from those 6 minutes. I know the result is was counts and we won the Champs League but it was just painful holding on and that first half.

I’m choosing the Barcelona game last year because it was 90 minutes of joy. As soon as the first goal went in we were always going to get the result.

3.) 15 Nov 2019 15:34:54
Istanbul. Mainly because I drove there with 3 friends and the entire experience was just incredible - to be able to relive that would be phenomenal.

4.) 15 Nov 2019 18:34:39
Got to be BARCELONA for me, this generations ST. ETIENNE.
If any of the EDDS r around,
What do you make of the statement that the club have put out about the CARABAO CUP. if you purchase a ticket to go to VILLA you will not get a loyalty creditation for future league cup games, because the club think it’s not fair on the supporters who are going the CLUB WORLD CUP and would lose a creditation. THIS ABSOLUTELY STINKS, if fans are taking the time and effort to go to support the team the least they deserve is a creditation, why don’t they give creditation to CWC and EFL CUP. this is a closed shop how do we get on the first rung of the ladder.

{Ed002's Note - It will be to support those folks who had already purchased tickets for the CWC in Qatar that would not get credit for attending the League Cup game. I would not worry sbout it.}

5.) 15 Nov 2019 18:45:41
Barcelona 4-0 UNBELIEVABLE.

6.) 15 Nov 2019 21:18:02
Istanbul without question, best night of my life!

7.) 15 Nov 2019 21:46:31
Clearly the Barcelona game, even though I watched the Istanbul game live (on tv) . We were bigger underdogs at Anfield and almost no one gave us a chance of overturning the deficit from the first leg, let alone have a clean sheet by the end. Winning against Barca, despite not having Firmino and Salah, was like playing Istanbul without Gerrard and Alonso. That Milan team at Istanbul was full of "Galacticos", but I believe we were weaker at Anfield, and the odds for a loss were greater. And yet we played them completely off the park.

8.) 15 Nov 2019 21:39:03
I am worried about it ED002,how do u break in to this CLOSED SHOP, I’m trying to break in and when the opportunity arises to build up your loyalty creditation, the club denies it u. it absolutely STINKS.

{Ed002's Note - The club took a decision to honour those who booked early to head to the CWC - at is at a trivial expense of some folk who are looking to attend the Aston Villa game. It is not a closed shop at all. The club would have grief if it went the other way. The fans need to demand the club be less successful to go back to the days when problems like this did not occur. It also appears you may want to buy a new keyboard as the caps lock key is getting stuck on.}

9.) 16 Nov 2019 18:54:37
Sorry aray, bigger underdogs against barca? Fully expected us to score 4 past them they aren't the team they were, the clean sheet part seemed hard to imagine before the game, but that ac Milan team sheet gave me nightmares before 2005, I enjoyed the Barcelona game much more because we dominated in long spells but in instanbul, with the gulf in quality between the 2 sides, I still find it unbelievable the boys pulled it off.

10.) 17 Nov 2019 14:04:19
The Barcelona 4-0 game, for sure.



12 Nov 2019 10:37:12
Is henderson evolving? he basically been playing Rm / Rw in some game and we've had a goal and assist in the past three games.

It just shows what competition of places can do. Ox was scoring so hendo has to step up and im glad he is because he is.

Gini has score, Fab has scored, Millner has scored, Lallana has scored, everyones chipping in.


1.) 12 Nov 2019 12:28:11
Hendos always had a great whipped cross in from the right hand side IMO, much like Gini has always had the ability to score get into the box and score goals, I think the big difference is Klopp is now letting them go forward more with Fabinho looking increasingly capable capable of controlling the rest of midfield on his own.

2.) 12 Nov 2019 14:42:02
Spot on, SGRed. Hendo played several seasons at Sunderland and his first season at LFC as a wide right midfielder. I In the 13/ 14 season, Hendo did most of his damage again on the right in a 4-4-2 diamond as well. It was Klopp who made him a no. 6 cos he was the best player available to play that role at the time. It was later on last season that Klopp put him back on the right of midfield and well, we know the rest. he is not evolving, IMO.

IMO, Hendo is just back to his natural position. Like they say, it's like riding a bike. You cannot un-learn what you are naturally good at. You can only be a bit rusty at it.

{Ed001's Note - he did not play wide right only at Sunderland, he mostly played central. He is naturally a central midfielder who got asked to play wide because he has excellent technique to deliver crosses.}

3.) 12 Nov 2019 19:21:23
Ah, thanks a lot for the tip, Ed01. I just mentioned that cos that is where I predominantly saw him play at Sunderland between to 2009 to 2011 before he moved to us. I do remember a game he played with Sunderland where he was brilliant at the Etihad vs City, scoring a brilliant goal and offering a great right wing cross for Kenwyne Jones to score.

{Ed001's Note - he was moved around, but only because they were short of quality and needed to put him out of position. Bit like Trent getting into the team at right back or Rashford getting into the team at centre forward when neither played there in the youth teams.}




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12 Dec 2019 10:49:23
Probably loaned back to Salzburg for the rest of the season.




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21 Oct 2018 13:07:50
Maybe against the smaller more stubborn teams we need to play shaqiri in stead of third misfielder.

We will click, there were moments in the past 2 and a half season with klopp where we would not click as an attacking team and lost or drew games. I think we were 9th after that second int break last season.

This season the defense is supporting when we aren't scoring 3-4 goals. The goals will come im not worried.




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09 Apr 2018 07:25:05
Xabi its probably best to judge him once he has a consistent run of games under his belt. I think he can be good for us if he gets game time.

The real question is who do you prefer is the squad striker, origi or Ings? its looking like wolfsburg will not retain his services next season.




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02 Apr 2018 12:50:40
We need to get ideally a CB a GK and CDM this summer. Worst case we need to get a CB and CDM.




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28 Mar 2018 10:17:48
Origi would be marketable for teams outside the top 3 leagues, francce or portugal?

Sad about sturridge and all that potential. he's on 120 too apparently and no one will be willing to pay that.

He could also end up pulling a van persie and be injury free next two years and bang the goals in.





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17 Feb 2020 09:11:00
Why should we not get the 2014 title if they are stripped of it? they got it by cheating. They paid transfer fees for players that played that season by cheating while FSG stayed within rules.

Its only fair we get the title, rules are explained to everyone.

Fernandinho 40 million euros
Navas 20 million euros
Negredo 24 million euros

Just to name a few.

They would probably not win the title if they were not able to get those players any a few before them.


{Ed001's Note - they might not have but they also might well have won it. Unless it is match fixing that has been found, I don't see why titles should be stripped.}



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17 Feb 2020 05:57:10
Chelsea managers to win the prem are Mourinho, Ancheloti and Conte.




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10 Feb 2020 10:15:58
Did we move heaven and earth to get Kenny when he returned from his sabbatical? Considering he went on to win the premier league with blackburn and all.




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10 Feb 2020 09:51:05
Love Hendo. But Steve's my hero. Has to be him.




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06 Feb 2020 10:18:15
I love Salah and if he wants to leave to pursue his dream then I support that too and will remain a fan.

But i don't think he's going anywhere next year purely as the people who can buy him don't have the money.

Madrid is stacked they have so many players, they just got hazard

Barcelona will get Neymar and that will be there big money buying

Will Salah want to go to PSG?

Bayern will not spend so much plus they want Sane and Kai Havertz.