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30 Jul 2019 22:22:51
Junior Firpo price slashed apparently from the €50 mil quoted to LFC to closer to €25 mil

We probably never even asked about him but good player can play ahead of Robbo aswell as cover.

jkh1983

1.) 31 Jul 2019 05:50:10
Wow season sales is in.


2.) 31 Jul 2019 07:46:08
So we should pay €25m for a player to sit on the bench and get the odd game instead of Robertson? Pointless.


3.) 31 Jul 2019 08:06:02
Tbf, with how prices are these days that is probably within the limits of what you would expect to pay for a back up. Not that i think we should necessarily. Just that its not beyond the realms of possibility just based on the price alone.


4.) 31 Jul 2019 08:37:12
I like Larouci and Milner for LB cover. Firpo doesn't want to sit on the bench.


5.) 31 Jul 2019 09:02:14
Firpo is a very versatile player, so he can cover the wings and CB as well. However, as others have stated, I’d prefer it if the younger lads got an opportunity.


6.) 31 Jul 2019 09:45:10
Agree - let Larouci have a shot to grow into the backup role, and if Robbo is out for the big games Milner can cover in a pinch.


7.) 31 Jul 2019 10:57:42
As I said I don’t expect it johnnyr1970 chill!

As others have said he is more than capable of playing more than one position still if the price was as reported it’s a no brainer in this market.


8.) 31 Jul 2019 11:55:56
He cannot play CD - some believe he might be capable in that position but there is absolutely no evidence to believe this. If he were bought it would be for cover down the left side but we already have sufficient cover that wouldn't upset the applecart. He is quite an attacking player and if we were going to be losing AR then I would expect him to come in but as it is it will not happen.


9.) 31 Jul 2019 12:41:28
I doubt too many players are capable of playing left mid and centre back for us, even as cover!


10.) 31 Jul 2019 13:10:40
He can also cover RB, DM, CM, RW, ST and GK. heard he is also a manager coach.


11.) 31 Jul 2019 14:48:48
We shouldn't be buying cover, we should be buying players to compete for the starting spot.


12.) 31 Jul 2019 16:14:03
@Firmane. Gareth Barry springs to mind. He could play left mid and centre back.


13.) 31 Jul 2019 16:53:41
RedGravy he would be good competition for a place. If as per another post we sold Wilson for 25mil and brought in Firpo that would be good business in my eyes.


14.) 31 Jul 2019 18:22:44
Selling Wilson and buying Firpo as a like for like replacement is false equivalency, given that Wilson is a very attacking player and a goal threat, whereas Firpo presents no goal threat whatsoever. If we were selling Robertson then it would make sense to buy him, but sorry, if you’re suggesting that he’d be adequate back up to Salah or Manè, you’re very much mistaken.


15.) 31 Jul 2019 21:25:28
Wasn't it one of the Eds that said Firpo would not be joining as a back up and would only make sense as a Robertson replacement? That pretty much ended that line of thinking for me. Dropping the price doesn't really change those facts.


16.) 31 Jul 2019 21:36:31
I didn't suggest they where like for like!


17.) 31 Jul 2019 22:08:12
Going to Barcelona would be a backup also. I don’t believe all the suggestions every time a player is linked it would be a replacement for a first team player it’s a squad game has been for a long time we don’t only use 11 players.


18.) 01 Aug 2019 00:52:11
I think the realistic thing to consider is that even if he was available for transfer his own personal choice would prevent Liverpool being a possibility. Andy robbo is mid 20s and has proved that he's one of the best LBs in Europe over last 18 months.

Jodi alba for Barcelona and Marcelo for Madrid have been mainstays for their clubs for the last 5 years at least, Madrid have shown with mendy signing they want to freshen up that role, jorda alba has shown recently he's not so special as a full back.

Firpo is a young Spanish LB who I'm sure wants that Barcelona or Madrid transfer. Why would he sign for Liverpool who have Robertson probably the most nailed on first choice LB for his club in the world and sadio mane also on the left wing.

He's not world class yet by any means but he's young and if he has any desire to become a great player Liverpool would be arguably the worst choice of club for him to join.


19.) 01 Aug 2019 08:05:12
So you are suggesting the player should fear competition? Any player worth there salt should thrive on competition not shy away from it. Alba for the record has a long time left in the game.


 

 

09 Jul 2019 10:37:37
Interesting that Lewis wasnt part of the selection for the training sessions of late, do the Eds know if he will be loaned out for the season to gain some competitive experience? Cheers for the work as always.

jkh1983

{Ed001's Note - that is the idea.}


1.) 09 Jul 2019 12:25:27
have any clubs shown any interest?


2.) 10 Jul 2019 09:49:10
He has now joined up with the senior squad along with 8 other academy players. Really looking forward to seeing some of them in action.


 

 

11 Aug 2017 00:27:10
Move for Luan tonight / tomorrow.

jkh1983

1.) 11 Aug 2017 01:11:18
He's the only player I've ever watched on YouTube who doesn't look very good! Perhaps he'll be a world beater!


2.) 11 Aug 2017 01:40:46
should be looking to improve the back 4 imo. probably the worst of the top 6 clubs maybe more.


3.) 11 Aug 2017 07:40:15
Canada_red I don't think our defence is that bad. There is quality there. Just too many mistakes.
Look at Leicester when they won the league, absolutely solid at the back, individually they aren't Worldies.

How much of the problem is klopp and the way we play leaving us exsposed so often?


4.) 11 Aug 2017 08:04:08
Our defence struggles massively from set pieces, individual errors and rash decision making. The majority of the games we lost last season we dominated and then conceded with the opposition scoring with very limited possession or chances, whilst we huffed and puffed at the other end. This problem stems back before Klopp and personally I think until we change the personnel who have been playing there it will likely continue.


5.) 11 Aug 2017 08:17:28
Ourdefence is shocking at set pieces an a team like man United will expose us this season due to the height in their squad.


6.) 11 Aug 2017 08:41:49
To be honest, I've only seen him on the odd occasion, he looks more suited to Italian league or Spanish league football. Great touch, good football brain but seems slow moving and lazy to me. Might be worth a go if reasonably priced. Has anyone heard anything more concrete on this?


7.) 11 Aug 2017 08:43:23
Whilst I would agree that our system often leaves the defence exposed, some of the individual errors have just been inexcusable. Klopp can't gameplan for mindlessness.


8.) 11 Aug 2017 08:54:22
No question that's been an issue Barrmun and think the team is very aware. towards the latter part of last season we saw Klopp take a far more balanced approach which paid dividends in defence. What it doesn't fully explain however is why we're so poor at defending set pieces, how terrified we are of pace, and how weak we were in the air at times.

Think this year will be better and hopefully Matip stays fit, but still some question to be answered over how quickly Andy settles, whether TAA can grow into a starting role (Clyne is part of the problem IMO) and if we have any injuries at CB how Gomez can step up to provide cover.

That's a lot of reliance on three young players even if very talented. would like to see at least one more top quality defender brought in.


9.) 11 Aug 2017 09:05:16
Agree with ings watched him on you tube and it was lowlights not high lights, can't see how he is the next Ronaldinho more like Ronald Mcdonald.


10.) 11 Aug 2017 09:33:52
Are we in for another Brazilian to appease Coutinho. Anyone know if their childhood friends. After all we've just lost Lucas who was close to him.


11.) 11 Aug 2017 01:20:57
Doesn't he have 3rd party ownership? wouldn't that cause a whole lot of messing around as I think it is against the rules over here. Do the Eds know if the option would be there to buy out the 3rd party owner to? I won't ask about cost because I know you don't like to talk money but it has to be quite expensive.

{Ed002's Note - Yes it would have to be resolved before any transfer to England - Inter has been trying to find a solution.}


12.) 11 Aug 2017 09:52:01
BBC South American football correspondent reckons Luan is very very good footballer. Make of that what you want.


13.) 11 Aug 2017 10:31:03
@mrShankly - Tim Vickery is a highly regarded journalist and I myself have read a number of articles by him. It is not a guarantee that Luan is a good player - but Vickery is definitely somebody whose opinion carries some weight: he is certainly a better writer as well as a more knowledgable journalist than most at the BBC.


14.) 11 Aug 2017 10:48:46
so a BBC correspondent reckons he's a good footballer. Gerrard houllier reckoned bruno cheyrou was a world beater need i say more.


15.) 11 Aug 2017 11:13:26
I told a number of people how average Luan is and got mocked. funny how all of a sudden people are thinking the same. He is not good enough for our squad full stop. Kent, solanke, lallana sturridge are all brilliant back ups and better players. I don't believe for a second that klopp is interested in Luan. In more positive news I am absolutely delighted with FSG's statement on coutinho. They deserve some praise after so many 'fans' have called for their head on here.


16.) 11 Aug 2017 12:35:05
Luan is average, at best.


17.) 11 Aug 2017 13:15:59
So Redsteve, Josh and BingoRed how much have you seen of Luan? Have you watched him regularly over the course of a season (or seasons in Vickery's case)? Or have you browsed a few youtube videos and drawn conclusions from them? Tim Vickery is based in Brazil and a regular commentator on the Brazilian league, it's players, etc etc but your opinions somehow carry more weight? I have no idea about the quality of Luan but I know whose opinion I value more on the player.


 

 

31 Jan 2017 00:41:55
Sakho to Palace.

jkh1983

1.) 31 Jan 2017 01:04:46
Unless they are not willing to pay the £20m and maybe Sakho might have to take a pay cut.


2.) 31 Jan 2017 19:38:18
Big Fat Sam will hate to give Liverpool anything moneywise so i reckon he'll hol out till late for the loan option.


3.) 31 Jan 2017 22:49:44
£2m loan fee until end of season and Palace will pay all of his wages, as reported on BT Sport a few minutes ago.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 10:33:18
Looks like Sevilla are out of the Sakho running, most likely saints will have the main offering to him now interest wise, will he view the saints as a big enough option considering his views on the likes of West Ham?

Cheers

jkh1983

1.) 13 Jan 2017 15:26:13
Where ever he goes will be a big step down. Only way from the top is down 😊


2.) 14 Jan 2017 04:14:03
Southampton is a very credible and well run club - maybe not a CL side but not far off. West Ham is in a mess.


 

 

 

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08 Aug 2019 12:20:51
Not long now Eds and you can get a bit of peace lol.

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06 Aug 2019 17:22:42
Taiwo Awoniyi has joined Mainz for the season.

jkh1983

1.) 06 Aug 2019 18:07:29
That's fourteen permanent departures and nine loan moves so far this summer. Harry Wilson should be announced to-morrow, Ryan Kent may well join Leeds Utd on Thursday or Friday (permanent) .


I suspect that there will be a number of loans to overseas clubs up to the end of August.


2.) 06 Aug 2019 18:13:48
Hopefully at Mainz Awoniyi will get decent playing time and get some Nigeria call-ups. His association with Liverpool will come to nothing otherwise.


3.) 06 Aug 2019 18:32:56
It was surprising given his form that he wasn’t called up, and also surprising its taken this long to announce.

Haven’t seen him in any photos at Melwood where has he been for 4 months!


 

 

21 Jul 2019 00:45:12
Will be interesting to see how much edwards gets out of palace for clyne.

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21 Sep 2017 10:49:09
Hope everyone is well. Stayed away for a while to let the transfer window postings to die off hopefully have now.

I personally believe Moreno has really stepped up his game still has a way to go to improve his defensive game but it is much much better than it has been. In terms of what he offers going forward there is no doubts on that front the boy can play. Anyone who still finds time to slag the player off is obviously media led and not really watching the player perform.

In terms of the defence TAA had his first wobble last match which is to be expected of such a young player and will learn more from his bad games than he will his good. Still don't miss clyne.

Personally I would start Gomez and matip as first choice cbs for the next 10 games together now see how it goes let them form a partnership.

Think everyone in front of the defence has been top notch so far and the results will come if we can organise the back line we will be a real force.

PS anyone seen ed25 recently sure he thought his lot where going to be something special this season. never mind Ed normal service resumed.

jkh1983

1.) 21 Sep 2017 12:04:31
what r u talking about? did u by mistake wrote this in the second week of Pl when we defeated arsenal.


2.) 21 Sep 2017 12:37:36
I thought it was a great post jkh and i agree with you on nearly every point. I don't think the midfield has been great though. Hendo, Gini and Can have all struggled but i feel as though it is because they're too similar. They needed Lallana or Coutinho alongside them.

That point aside, great assessment in my opinion. I'd do exactly what you said regarding the defence.


3.) 21 Sep 2017 13:30:57
Spot on, JKH BUT three midfield needs some work tho. They need to havde defined roles for each player cos Lallana is out and that is messing things up right now cos the other 3 are too similar so Can can hold and either Wiji can be the B2B with Cou in the no. 10. The roles should be defined that way so every man knows his job. Defensively, We need a partnership for a sustained period, regardless of who it is so we can get some rhythm going cos the constant changing does not help with communication and rhythm cos each time, it seems the one CB does not know what the other CB will do. See Burnley goal.


4.) 21 Sep 2017 14:27:49
Sorry jkh, I'm not sure which games you've been watching, but our midfield has been anything but top notch - especially defensively. They're far too unorganized and our defence way too often pays for price for that.

Agree about Moreno though, and I too believe it is time to form a stone solid partnership at the back four and especially between our centre backs - whether it be Gomez/ Matip, Lovren/ Matip or Lovren/ Gomez. Something in that manner definitely needs to happen soon.


5.) 22 Sep 2017 11:55:54
Yeah agree the mid 3 lacks a little balance but this I put down to not having Coutinho or Lallana to call upon at the start of the season.

Crazy Horse if you can look past the result and what I was saying for the players/ roles that have performed you may have understood the post.


 

 

23 Aug 2017 20:40:18
Moreno is slowly turning the time keep going lad and you will convert more and more on the way.

jkh1983

1.) 23 Aug 2017 20:49:28
I think we should all get off his back, he'll be a player As he gets older.


2.) 23 Aug 2017 20:51:47
Exactly too many blinded fans listen to the media and don't actually watch a player perform.


 

 

 

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25 Oct 2019 19:10:05
Great deal for the club another masterstroke from the owners and their staff. Running well on and off the field.

Enables Liverpool have better buying power.

Nothing wrong with enthusiasm don't let anyone dampen it.

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30 Sep 2019 21:43:21
I just don’t agree that every time a front player is linked it’s automatically suggested it’s a replacement. There is plenty of football for a four option and plenty of clubs that play a front 3 that have 4 or more options.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool also have Origi, Brewster and others who are in exactly the same boat.}


 

 

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30 Sep 2019 12:45:32
To rotate and play regular like the midfield 3 do? We must play 60plus games during a season.

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30 Sep 2019 12:36:05
Ed can you explain why it would be in place of one of the front three and not as a rotation/ competition of them? Its a big highlight that is often referred to what if we lose one of our front three to long term injury. Im not suggeting we but a player simply for injury cover however there is plenty of football to be played every year to accomdate a fourth top player to rotate into those positions. Origi is a good impact sub but not a starter and Brewster is only a kid still and has a lot of learning to do before he challenges the front three to start weekly.

It doesn't stack up that we can't have this without having to lose one of these players. If you compare central midfield for instant we have more than three players there that are all first team worthy.

Keita
Hendo
Ox
Milner
Gini
Fabinho
Shaq

All these for three positions so why not more options for the front line in the shape of a proven top level player.

jkh1983

{Ed002's Note - Why would any of those players move to sit on the bench to provide cover?}


 

 

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07 Aug 2019 14:23:09
Why is this on the Liverpool Page?

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08 Aug 2019 14:38:50
Should all just go on a massive blow out but id be afraid you would all fall asleep haha.

Good window for your side Ed25 some good movements there I still think you have an issue at CB however and Pickford needs to improve this year but the middle and front looks on the up! A good run for the Europa League would be a good season of improvement id say.

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01 Aug 2019 20:28:11
Max move on from this idea we can't have a squad how many centre mids do we have and how many start? competition is not bad!

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16 Jul 2019 15:21:36
According to reports he is only there for pre season due to the lack of goalkeepers available.

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09 Jul 2019 16:36:52
Both have extended windows compared to the UK though and I could see coutinho being part of a deal for Neymar!

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09 Jul 2019 16:34:38
im sure there are restrictions on young players from Brazil i think they have to be 18 plus to move.

Could be wrong.

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