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18 Jan 2025 10:24:42
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17 Jan 2025 18:28:47
Hi editors! It seems slot is not fully convinced with Quansah, are we still interested in that left sided center back who can also play as a left back? Or is the focus now just on a natural left back since our two left backs are not good enough anymore? And are we still looking Inacio or Hincapie? I think either one of them in January will significantly increase our chances of winning the title this season.

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{Ed001's Note - it is still the focus. I would expect that the poor form of Robbo will have made it an even higher priority.}

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17 Jan 2025 21:06:07
Yep, if city can identify so many players to improve them in Jan so can we. I’m not buying this Jan is too tough to buy nonsense. Put another few million in front of clubs and you can buy who you want.

I think we should also try and get Douglas Luiz on loan if we can’t solve CM long term. Prem proven, more mobile than Endo and could defs do a job for us if needed.

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17 Jan 2025 23:54:43
Doesn’t Douglas Luiz also come with Alisha Lehmann? If so then FSG should break the bank.

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18 Jan 2025 00:06:41
Douglas Luiz is rubbish though. Juve desperately trying to rid themselves of an over priced mediocre Brazilian midfielder feels like somewhere we’ve been before.

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18 Jan 2025 04:00:18
Brummyred - City haven't 'identified' players; they are reacting to a very poor first half of the season by throwing money at whoever looks half decent and hoping they are successful, as they/ Guardiola always do. The 'greatest ever coach' - what a joke - not even attempting to do what every other coach has to. They are paying their latest acquisition, who has achieved absolutely nothing in the game, almost as much as we pay our best player.
Just remember that Doku, Grealish, Nunes, Savinho and Gvardiol cost them the best part of 400m. yet none have been an overwhelming success.
You can criticize Liverpool and FSG for not being ambitious enough in the transfer market - they absolutely aren't - but arguments go out the window when comparisons with City begin.

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18 Jan 2025 09:02:58
Good post that Lowe1FC. I think Gvardiol has been a great signing for City though. Really good defender and scores plenty of goals too.

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18 Jan 2025 09:08:48
Douglas Luiz isn't the best CM in the world but he is not rubbish, your posts are though. He had 6 goals and 6 assists, and 9 goals and 5 assists in his last 2 PL seasons, more than any of our midfielder for the last 5-6 years!

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17 Jan 2025 18:32:48
I don't think we'll buy anyone in this transfer window and to calm the fans i think the club will announce new contracts for probably VVD and Salah at the end of the window.
They'll be like 'new signings' and it will probably placate a lot of the fans.

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17 Jan 2025 18:57:15
Am not sure that will happen, I think it’s starting to look like all 3 are going I think it will have been sorted by now. I don’t know if there is some plan to replace all 3 well Trent is sorted Bradley does that. I just hope VVD stays above the all others as I think losing a cb like him is nearly impossible to replace as I know because it took for Virgil to come in to replace Hansen.

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17 Jan 2025 18:58:56
Maybe van Dijk, don't think Salah stays, wage structure and all that good sh*t.

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17 Jan 2025 18:49:25
They won’t be like new signings at all, that’s not what transfer windows are for. I reckon all 3 will leave myself. And Diaz will be off in summer.

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17 Jan 2025 19:35:00
Virgil is the most important.
Can you imagine if he had off days like Salah often does? (Yes his stats are crazy and possibly irreplaceable) . If Virgil had those off days we'd lose more than we won.
Trent I'm actually not fussed about. Great if he stays, but if he goes then I wish him all the best.

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17 Jan 2025 21:10:32
Virg will stay, don’t mind the other two going at this point but more gutted that Trent is leaving.

Re Diaz he may want to guy but I can’t see Barcelona wanting him. IMO he could easily end up in Saudi - again great player but not irreplaceable if he does leave. Guess it would leave Gakpo as clear first choice even though I don’t really rate him.

Don’t mind the potential rebuild but hoping we actually get given the funds to make 5/ 6 signings.

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17 Jan 2025 21:41:12
Bradley does what trent does? Are you mental grino, trent is 10 times the footballer Bradley, Bradley may defend a bit better but trent gives us so much more, think Bradley will replace all that is absolutely ridiculous.

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17 Jan 2025 22:08:26
Port red, somewhat agree. Bradley can't pass the ball like Trent, but I think he is a much better defender and can beat a player.

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17 Jan 2025 22:46:57
Bradley is not a much better defender, where does this notion come from? The kid has played a handful of games and has been at fault for a couple of goals already. He plays as a RW for N. Ireland!

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17 Jan 2025 23:18:23
Alright lads. Do we know ball park what trent mo and virg are looking for money wise?

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{Ed025's Note - well Mo is on £350k a week Cumber and i dont think he will be taking a drop mate, VVD is on£180k and i expect he will want a significant rise to stay, TAA earns the same and will want at least parity with VVD whatever he gets rise wise..

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18 Jan 2025 00:41:35
It's funny how players can be so hard on Bradley but then state Danns is the second coming.

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18 Jan 2025 04:04:16
We've coped well without Ali, Mo, Trent, etc. What we didn't cope well with was when Virgil was out. Hands down our most important player.

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18 Jan 2025 04:05:57
Ed I know it's a diff world but if Virgil is on what you say then that's borderline criminal. Looking around the league at the likes of Mount, Sterling, Rashford, etc. all on double what you say Virgil is on.

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{Ed025's Note - those figures do not include bonuses RF but i must agree that when you compare him to that lot hes basically on the minimum wage mate, maybe we should start a go fund me page to get him a few bob.. :)

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18 Jan 2025 06:07:11
Also McGoveb, we could be in a situation where we dint sign players for positions that we are lacking in currently. and the 3 contracts are NOT renewed.

Dint want to be pessimistic, but that's the reality.

Questions around our recruitment and contract negotiations are rightly placed at those in charge, whoever that might be wrt Hughes, Ward and Edward's.

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18 Jan 2025 07:00:51
You joining for red side now mate? 😜.

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{Ed025's Note - you know me better than that mate.. :)

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17 Jan 2025 18:01:09
Soo, Macca posted about Nunez and Osimhen, but news now is we've turned our attention to the Sporting striker because of Osimhen's wage demands. let's just say i am not shocked. At all actually. Also doubt we have any chance to sign Gyokeres either, the same guy who probably have had contract offers from Chelsea, Man Utd and others already. Unless he's a huge Liverpool fan that is.

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17 Jan 2025 18:14:37
Sorry as believable as that sounds, could you post the source? Surely we would’ve already been aware of Osimhen’s salary (or at least had a rough idea) before deciding to target him? Flip flopping again like the summer we are 🤦🏽.

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17 Jan 2025 18:55:22
I read it on a website that's based in Dubai, which is pretty reliable, they say he's Chelsea bound and that he's a huge Chelsea fan. Imagine being a huge Chelsea fan and ask them for 400k a week in the summer, but that negotiations with them never stopped. The article goes on to say we never contacted Napoli or his agent and that we are trying to see if Sporting are willing to negotiate Gyokeres's release clause. Now i am not saying this article is gospel or anything but i usually trust their reports based on arabic or african players because their news is straight from the horse's mouth pr. se. F. eks they were the 1st to report Marmoush to City in late November.

I think Nunez stays and we sign nobody. But that's just my pessimistic take because i mean come on, we're owned by Fenway Sports Group, the same group getting booed in official meet and greats with their own fans (red sox) its actually hilarious, you should check it out.

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{Ed001's Note - they are correct about Osimhen being a Chelsea fan.}

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17 Jan 2025 18:52:46
Osimhens wages were 400grand when Chelsea wanted him…. we ain’t paying that.

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17 Jan 2025 19:27:06
I don't think we're getting anyone personally, This whole 3 contract saga is a mess and we wheel out the same narrative every single window, Its high time we actually acted like a big club when it comes to the squad.

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17 Jan 2025 20:33:45
Cant believe anyone seriously believed we’d be seriously in with a shout of Osimhen and Kara whatever he’s called. Our owners are frugal to the point of being parsimonious, no way they’re green lighting any of those without a big sale. Osimhen in particular is a no go due to his wages and outrageous agent demands. It was £500k pw not £400k pw he was asking for. Do you think FSG are sanctioning that? Not while there’s contract disputes ongoing.

Unless we sell Nunez there’s not going to be any forwards coming in and even then I suspect we’d find a way to contrive to mess it up and leave ourselves short, because if any team knows how to self sabotage, it’s us.

I’d also go as far as saying that I reckon next summer will be minimalist as well as the senior management will probably consider that if the squad is good enough to win a title or finish top four then there’s no need to make many changes, if any at all. Don’t say that won’t happen, as it did before.

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17 Jan 2025 21:14:27
ViktorVaughan I think Hughes has been bought in to replicate what he has achieved at Bournmouth, with a slightly higher budget. The Fabinho type signing at around 40m who goes on to be a world class addition is the hope.

I don't doubt that we would buy a Caicedo priced player, should they be available, but so many factors are a barrier to that level of signing, as they should be using Darwin as an example.

IF we had Caicedo now, I feel we would be running away with the league, but he chose CFC and that's that.

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17 Jan 2025 22:07:22
how can you even write that Viktor? You're telling me If Salah, Van Dijk and Trent leave we're not going to replace them? Seriously dude, give it a rest, we signed Szoboszlai, Macca and Gravenberch in one window. You take it to an extreme which makes it very difficult to take you seriously, i honestly thought you were trolling at one point.

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17 Jan 2025 22:25:24
Vango, genuinely think that we’re going to have a very quiet time transfer wise. Even if Arnold, Salah and Van Dijk leave, maybe a free transfer or two, but no significant spending. FSG are doing the same with the Red Sox and Penguins. As long as we can just about qualify for the champions league then we won’t do much.

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17 Jan 2025 22:38:09
Honestly I don’t want Osimhen or Gyokeres or that young Greek lad.
Osimhen is MASSIVELY over rated - he’s an average footballer and will be a massive waste for Chelsea.

Gyokeres is just not good enough for the premier league. You need pace or incredible positional sense. He hasn’t got either - average but doing well in a pub league.

The Greek lad is behind Danns for me.

Pay the money for Cunha or keep your powder dry.

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17 Jan 2025 22:40:14
Thing is there’s a number of central midfield Caicedo quality players in the world, and none of them play for us and they will be available - at the right price. Everything has a price.

There’s even more who are slightly below Caicedo level, but still better than what we have, where the same applies.

The owners and board recruit the CEO, they recruit the directors, that’s how it works. If the directors aren’t delivering what they want they’ll be gone.

If at the end of the season we finish second, third or fourth, having bought no one better in the key positions in two windows, and the directors are still in the same positions that’ll tell us they’re doing what’s required of them.

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{Ed001's Note - Caicedo isn't top level. Without Lavia Chelsea struggle, Caicedo is a step below him.}

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17 Jan 2025 22:57:28
Weren’t we after him for a stretch as well Ed…That was pre the observation panel though, which tells us something. You teed that up nicely.

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{Ed001's Note - we certainly tried to sign him.}

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17 Jan 2025 23:16:19
Lavia getting injured again and Chelsea form dipping is no coincidence.

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18 Jan 2025 00:41:32
I like what little I've seen of Lavia. Caceido looks rash to me and that's being polite.

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18 Jan 2025 05:59:56
People really need to check accounts before doing their fsg bashing. We posted our second year of losses in a row, neither year breaks psr but it does take much to do it. This is exactly why we can't just buy whoever we want and need to sell to buy

Next season we should have more money to spend thanks to slot doing well in the champions league.

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18 Jan 2025 06:13:07
Agree with Ron.

We are sitting in a position where we can be champions of England, and even have a great run in the CL.

If we're serious about this, then go get Cunha, or at least Isak.

These are PL proven players who will take us to the next level

But we find ourselves dilly dallying around people like Osimhen. who surely those in charge are aware of his wage demands, so WHY WASTE OUR TIME WITH HIM?

Ideally, imo, either a CB or DM alongside Grav, and then Cunha/ Isak in this window and I think that will get us over the line wrt winning the league.

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18 Jan 2025 07:27:32
Yea just go buy Isak or Cunha mid season, its that easy isn't it.

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18 Jan 2025 08:07:19
It’s been said a lot Nevada so all fans know, and it’s true, that we have been making losses for a few years.
We have some headroom, but we’re not sure as fans quite how much, against PSR rules which would allow us to make a buy or several buys depending on the prices and wages.

We all understand it I think.

The frustration with the ownership is (there’s a perception) that the headroom they require us to operate with against PSR is greater than our competitors. They want a bigger buffer because they’re more risk averse, or prefer to keep that capacity untapped.

We don’t know because we’re not in the board room, but if that’s true it makes it harder for us to compete for new players, or upgrade the contracts of existing players.

The knock on impact means of course it’s harder to compete on the pitch ultimately, unless you have a genius manager and an injury free top 14 squad who can eek out amazing results for full seasons. That’s where Arne and Jurgen come into the picture.

We are well run though in the very commercial sense, no doubt about it.

I personally don’t think it’s all about the owners. I think our headroom has been restricted by poor contractual decisions in recent years like giving high contracts to injury prone players, although hopefully those days are behind us, and a few indifferent buys like Nunez have left us with less room to manoeuvre. Missing Champions League was big as well. All that means is the current transfer and contract approach has to be spot on, we’re not feeling it at the moment.

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17 Jan 2025 15:16:46
Good afternoon Eds.

We are being linked with Angelo Stiller of Stuttgart. Other than he is 23, a defensive midfielder and a full Germany international I know nothing about him. Rumour has it that Stuttgart would be open to him moving this month if an offer of €40M came in for him. I have 2 questions:

1 - Have you heard of any interest from us?
2 - Is he any good because €40M for a full German international sounds reasonable to fill what has become a problem position for us.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry I don't know anything about it.}

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17 Jan 2025 16:42:02
Might get Ben Stiller, but his wages will be too high.

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{Ed025's Note - you have enough Fockers in your side as it is Roy.. :)

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17 Jan 2025 17:09:18
Brilliant ed25 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

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17 Jan 2025 17:47:29
That reminds me of that Stan Boardman joke Ed. You know, the one about the fockers who were in Messerschmidt's.

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{Ed025's Note - yeah thats Stan at his best VV..

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17 Jan 2025 17:49:25
There was also a soft link to Angelo Stiller in the summer after Zubi backtracked. He's a left-footed midfielder that likes to pass and dictate play a bit like Zubi does. He was a Bayern Academy product and took Endo's place at Stuttgart after we signed him last year.

I have no idea if he's got the physical capacity to replicate his style and impact in the Premier League. Bundesliga midfields are pretty open in the main.

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17 Jan 2025 17:55:26
I’ve watched a bit of Bundesliga (admittedly on tv) and he looks ideal for us.

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17 Jan 2025 19:07:24
You shouldn’t have said that Pelican, soft link, it’s given everyone a new phrase to bash the transfer team with.

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17 Jan 2025 20:13:23
They deserve every bit of bashing, JordanSimon. I’m a proud enabler.

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18 Jan 2025 06:02:05
We have posted two years of losses in a row FPF. We have to be careful how much we spend, without some sales we can't buy unless everyone is fine with a points deduction?

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17 Jan 2025 14:14:30
Hi Ed01, sorry I don’t have a reliable source to confirm this rumour - apparently Trent has verbally agreed a move to Madrid, either now or in July. Can you confirm or is this just from the Madrid press to unsettle Trent and force his hand? Thanks mate.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know mate, but it does sound like nonsense as he could sign a pre-contract to join Madrid now, why bother with a verbal agreement?}

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17 Jan 2025 14:44:54
That’s a very valid point mate! Are you aware if we’re still negotiating a fee with Al Hilal for Nunez?

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17 Jan 2025 09:43:44
Hello eds, good morning.

Are there any legs in the milos kerkes rumours at the moment?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - at the moment? Highly unlikely anything will happen there in January.}

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17 Jan 2025 10:48:06
Hi Ed001 - do you still think we will try and get something done in this window or is it getting to the point of only if we have an outgoing like Nunez or Elliot? Feels like we could do with a midfielder or defender at the very least.

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{Ed001's Note - sales are not needed to bring in new players, just competent recruitment.}

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17 Jan 2025 11:22:50
Ed001 - will anything happen in January do you think?

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{Ed001's Note - I did think Hughes would pull out all the stops to make sure he got someone in, as it would relieve a lot of the pressure off Slot and himself. I am beginning to think nothing will happen now though, because I am now not convinced he is capable of pulling out any stops at this level.}

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17 Jan 2025 11:55:14
Question is. Who recruits the competent recruiters?

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17 Jan 2025 11:56:40
God,
It sounds like a disaster.
Nothing on the contracts either!
Are you aware of him even trying Ed?
Like, have we pushed for anyone?
Any negotiations?

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{Ed001's Note - no, but that doesn't mean there haven't been any as I am not that in the loop these days.}

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17 Jan 2025 12:00:16
Cheers Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome JTR.}

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17 Jan 2025 12:15:44
Unfortunately Ed001 sounds like you were right about Edward’s and Hughes being the wrong men for the jobs they were recruited too. I just hope we have enough to get over the line to win the league this season.

A few weeks back I was convinced that the three would sign contracts, now I fear they might all leave. If they were too, Hughes would have a mammoth task replacing them and also improving the other areas of the squad, ie. MF, CB and LB. The next 12 months will be huge in terms of the direction of the club. We have all seen under Klopp’s reign how crucial player recruitment is to success!

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{Ed001's Note - hopefully I am wrong. If Edwards was doing the recruitment, I would be confident. I am not confident in Ward and Hughes to be any more than assistants.}

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17 Jan 2025 12:37:25
C’mon Edwards save us 😅.

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17 Jan 2025 12:47:40
The same person who selects the best cherry pickers el bob!

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17 Jan 2025 13:15:20
There's only one thing Dick Hughes has been pulling since he arrived at liverpool and its not all the stops.

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17 Jan 2025 12:42:02
Would you ed believe this was part of the reason klopp deciding it was time for new pastures? Not saying the whole reason as I believed him when he said he tired and lost the motivation. But maybe things were being brought in and he didn’t like that. I’m still lost for words how we can be 1 of the biggest and most successful clubs in world football when our spending is limited most transfer windows. Fear slot will be hung out to dry if none of 3 sign contracts, and even if mo and vvd do sign as I think Trent is leaving, a year later they are going to have to replace them anyway.

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{Ed001's Note - I doubt it had anything to do with Klopp's decision.}

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17 Jan 2025 12:44:24
Lol we might go and sign another keeper Ed1 ;) imagine that, everybody would lose their sh*t!

The way these two fellas are doing business (or lack of) we'll go and sign another keeper and give Diaz a new contract - the player who wants out, instead of one to the three lads who want to stay.

Mind boggling!

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{Ed001's Note - it would at least give us something to laugh about if we signed up a bunch of keepers!}

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17 Jan 2025 12:48:33
Ed 01.I unfortunately tend to agree with Man of Todd and your reply. so. just in your opinion. would you see, or could it happen, that Edwards would step in to get things completed if he saw or thought that things were going tits up so to speak? . I know it would perhaps be embarrassing or make the other positions untenable, but for the good of the club and all that? .

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{Ed001's Note - I very much doubt he would do that. I just can't see it happening at all.}

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17 Jan 2025 13:18:52
I’ve never really bought into the Edwards cult stuff. I just think pre-Ljinders Intensity™ Jurgen was one of the best managers of all time

Most of Edwards signings (Mane, Coutinho, Gini) completely failed with they left the club

Others became great players once Klopp changed their position (Gini, Bobby) and quite a few got ridiculously overpaid contracts to the point where they became impossible to sell (Divock as much as I still love him, Nat Phillips)

Also worth mentioning the dithering after we won the champions league and in 2021 where we only signed Ibou is a big reason why we had to do such an extensive rebuild in the first place

Just my 2 pence anyway. Every chance I’m way off the mark so feel free to shoot me down if that’s the case.

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17 Jan 2025 13:23:11
What was the point in giving hughes a job. He’s done nothing of any real importance since he joined and we could have saved them money and let the tea lady’s do what he has done which is zero. Talk about stealing a living!

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17 Jan 2025 13:58:58
I dunno Ed, Ward and Hughes as assistants is far too much responsibility. I don’t think I’d trust them licking the stamps in the post room, as they’d be spending too much of their time eating crayons.

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17 Jan 2025 14:04:48
One thing we don't seem to be taking into account is how much possible Saudi interest in VVD and Salah could be distorting their contract requirements.

For Trent I think it's a simple case of achieving all his personal and team goals already at Liverpool and when you're at that stage it's hard to resist the lure of new less labour intensive league where defending will be easier, the fixtures will be less congested and the weather will be significantly better.

Question for all - if VVD and Salah had asked for 500k per week would people still want the contracts renewed?

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17 Jan 2025 14:15:55
I’m not convinced the lack of recruitment is down to Richard Hughes (irrespective of whether or not he’s good enough) . More likely he’s been told there’s not much to spend. Maybe he feels he’s having to do his job with a lot of restrictions.

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{Ed001's Note - then he should not have signed a keeper we didn't need and there would be some in the pot.}

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17 Jan 2025 14:23:04
Viktor I think they’ve got Chiesa licking the stamps, that’s why he’s ill every every week.

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17 Jan 2025 14:37:53
Fair point Ed01. FSG seem willing to buy ‘assets’ - players whose value is likely to increase - hence the purchase of the goalkeeper (he was available for a reasonable fee at the time) . They’re clearly not too keen to spend where that’s not the case - the lack of contract renewals being an obvious example!

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17 Jan 2025 15:11:17
I can’t see FSG not backing them they don’t really get involved in day to day running and transfers also we have seen in the past that money is spent when needed maybe not as much as people would like but that’s our model and we work with what we generate.

I’m sure money is there but where it is spent is down to the internal hierarchy and not FSG.

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17 Jan 2025 15:12:13
The only time they will be worried is in a few years when we can’t qualify for the CL. We are closer to Leicester in terms of contracts and recruitment than RM or City.

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{Ed025's Note - closer to Leicester Mark?, come on mate give your head a wobble will you mate..

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17 Jan 2025 14:58:00
Ed, do you believe there is a lot of restrictions on how much we can spend etc? It doesn't seem that way though.

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, other than trying not to spend beyond our means, there is little to restrict us.}

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17 Jan 2025 16:42:05
I think people forget that we have actually spent money, the club is run to be self sustainable and has to fall within PSR, I would also suspect that big salaries to Virg, Salah and Trent can do a lot to our spend limits. If there could be a criticism it might be where we spent the money and not what we have actually spent.

People are looking at Arsenal and Chelsea and wondering why we don’t spend like them but Chelsea are constantly fighting against PSR and selling their own assets like hotels and woman football team in order to remain compliant, whereas Arsenal can’t buy what they need a proper striker because they are too close to PSR and need to move people on 1st. I have full faith if we find the right player we will do the business, we were ready to get zubimendi and worked hard in the deal but he pulled out, we went in for Lavia and Caicedo but were rejected that isint a spend issue that’s finding the right player who fits the bill and is available.

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{Ed025's Note - spot on for me mate..

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17 Jan 2025 17:48:52
Nevada, can you please stop pretending you're in the know? Its so cringe.

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17 Jan 2025 18:02:25
I would also add to Downey's post that we haven't yet jumped on the bandwagon of ridiculously long contracts to stretch out costs. Hopefully we won't either as I think is a very shortsighted approach.

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17 Jan 2025 18:39:51
Why have city done that with Haaland, they’ve closed that PSR loophole haven’t they. We don’t look for loopholes so we wouldn’t be doing it, rightly btw.

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17 Jan 2025 19:21:42
I agree, and without dipping to far into financials. I believe we currently spend approximately 63% of income on wages. I think for the 2025/ 26 season new FFP rules will be a max of 70% of income can be spent on wages, which means we need to be careful what we spend. So as much as giving new improved contract to VVD Mo and Trent seem no brainiers any increase to wages will have an impact on what we can give to players like Konate Bradley etc when them renewals come up, and limit what we can offer new signings coming in, so contracts and signings are not as straightforward as we think, as whilst other clubs are in a worse position I would expect any new contracts negotiations to be lengthy and new signings extensively scrutinised. if you think of it in relation to the fact we can only spend another 7% of income on signings and new contracts, its at least should be considered with fans expectations of what we can, can’t or should spend…. its more complicated then we think.

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17 Jan 2025 21:47:03
Did we pay up front for the keeper, or was it deferred until he arrives I wonder.

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17 Jan 2025 21:52:28
If Chelsea and utd etc are not failing psr then there I'd not a hope were anywhere near it. We've spent absolute buttons compared to them last 2 or 3 years. We definitely could do with fresh legs in January. I think still being involved in 4 comps will be our undoing.

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17 Jan 2025 22:43:00
Liverpool don't spend 63% on wages. All our accounts and finances are available and public knowledge if you have the time and understanding to read them. The most we ever spent on wages (whole club not only players) was 58% and since then Fabinho, Milner, Henderson, Keita, Chamberlain and Firmino have all left and been replaced by players who earn a lot less.

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17 Jan 2025 23:35:34
Fair enough @Fiskesprett II’m happy to concede I don’t have the time to plough through the finances I wouldn’t admit it if I did tbh, but I do have the understanding sadly its my job. My point is, if its 50% for arguments sake and there's a 20% margin to remain compliant, which is a hell of a lot of money, but in football terms, a few players renewing contracts on top end wages, and a few on lower wages that on renewal will increase considerably if we want to retain them, and with any new quality signings coming in that margin will quickly shrink, as much as I want new signings and new contracts for key players, my point was just in football money terms its not as simple or as much money as some believe, not defending or damming the situation…. yet.

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16 Jan 2025 20:17:45
Im still utterly baffled at why we put out the interest in Kvaratskhelia at all if we had no intention of going after him, seems like he's PSG bound without any approach by us that we know of. Eds or Macca, do you know anything about this? What happened there?

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16 Jan 2025 20:32:03
He has a questionable entourage of people. I imagine that's perhaps why we swerved him.

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16 Jan 2025 20:40:39
Why do u guys talk about transfers as if anyone is a consideration
There are no hijacks unless lfc are in the receiving end
The ex Napoli player was never considered

No signings this window u know this.

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16 Jan 2025 20:51:17
There seems to be a lot of tactical leaking/ bidding with FSG and Edwards. They knew Caicedo was not going to come North, for example.
Kvaradonna is available at a very reasonable price and wage. Surely any elite side should be in for generational talents, or are we fully bought into the Austerity model going forward?

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16 Jan 2025 21:15:26
Questionable entourage eh? Alright then.

What is his entourage going to do? Sell crack at halftime in the Kop or Streak through the games? Maybe they are gangsters and will start making some of our players fix matches! oh i know, they'll blackmail Slot into picking the line-ups for their fantasy teams!

As I understand the Napoli owner is a complete TWiT and Kvaradona was on 39 000 euros a week. A sum extremely low for a player of his quality.

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16 Jan 2025 21:21:39
Why do you believe we were definitely interested in him? And why do you believe that interest requires a bid?

Furthermore, he has fully agreed terms with PSG and his medical is booked. It was always the case he was going to PSG.

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16 Jan 2025 21:26:53
I found out about his questionable entourage, he has 74 agents and they like to bring swords to negotiations.

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16 Jan 2025 21:37:40
We have two high quality left wingers, and PSR to think about. It would be daft to spend money on the position we absolutely need the least in our team, no matter who the player is.

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16 Jan 2025 21:41:29
Definitely austerity Vango, it’s the Norbert Colon model (anyone familiar with Viz will know who that is)

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16 Jan 2025 21:46:12
When I say questionable entourage I mean he has a management team and agent who are very difficult to deal with and create problems where they don't exist.

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16 Jan 2025 22:18:31
We are like Everton in the 90s linked with everyone but nothing ever comes of it.

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16 Jan 2025 22:19:28
Maybe they don’t think he’s the right player for us, that may be for many reasons. One might be that he wants to play for another club. It is allowed.

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17 Jan 2025 00:08:08
The initial reports which said the club were ‘monitoring’ the players situation wasn’t code for us having made a bid and are fully confident that the players will sign for us. Any any given time I would expect / hope that the club are monitoring multiple players in various positions and at a range of points in their potential careers. The idea that, in this case, there was an expectation that he would sign, basically because spectators regard him as a good player, wasn’t correct. Not the first time and not the last I suspect.

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17 Jan 2025 01:41:05
who put it out there?

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17 Jan 2025 03:18:39
I don’t remember anyone from the club saying we are interested in him so why get flustered by rumours? We are linked with dozens of players every window but it doesn’t mean we failed to obtain them if they don't sign for us.

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17 Jan 2025 06:54:00
I don't get this idea that 'we are putting out' information on players we're interested in. None of this information has any credible source. Football rumours are mostly just clickbait.

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17 Jan 2025 08:09:26
I think we’re struggling in the market to pay what’s needed. Let’s be honest buying anything is easy, provided there’s a willing seller and you can pay the price.

We’ve been told a few times we have some PSR headroom so it’s not necessarily all to do with that, but we’re probably just not willing or able to pay enough.

Most things will be just clickbait, but there probably is the odd time a story is encouraged or released that link us with players so it appears we’re open for business.

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17 Jan 2025 08:15:27
Hey guys, STOP. Kvaratskhelia is 60% maradona or 80% Messi. Players like this don't come by easy. We should go all out to get him.

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17 Jan 2025 08:34:26
We didn't sign Maradona or Messi either.
Did the club ever make it public that it was seriously interested in signing KK?

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17 Jan 2025 08:37:37
I think we are all in love with the idea of signing him. Brilliant player who I would love at the club. He’s got bags of potential and still very young. Plus a percentage of us thought we’ve bought the Georgian Keeper so could be legs in it.

I think if we haven’t moved by now when he intimated he wanted to leave Napoli last week then we are not going for him. If he is going for the reported 70-80 million then PSG have got a great deal to be fair.

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17 Jan 2025 09:13:14
Thanks for the info Nevada, keep it coming.

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17 Jan 2025 09:24:00
@Jordan, why do you think there is a specific financial limit for a player we might want to sign ? Also why do you think we would only be interested in ultra expensive players. I think the idea of the right player at the right price still stands. We were prepared to say a massive amount for Caicedo but he wanted to go somewhere, we were prepared to pay a mid-range amount for Zubimendi who said he wanted to join us but then changed his mind and we were prepared to play a small amount for Chiesa primarily because of concerns over his previous injury. Like I say, the right player at the right price but no cap n what the price might be for a world class player.

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17 Jan 2025 10:17:06
The club never said they were interested in him, a random journo did (and even then was unbelievably non committal about it) . People need to stop thinking that just because a journo says something that it has to come from inside the club - this is nonsense and sports journals are basically paid to speculate. Every day we are linked to players that the club would never have any interest in signing.

Also it would make no sense to sign him. The last thing we need is a LW and he is not this 'generational talent' that people keep talking about. His stats are mediocre in an average league. If he was as good as you seem to think he is the Arsenal, Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, Beyern, Inter, Real Madrid and Barcelona would all be trying to sign him. There is obviously a reason why nobody is battling PSG for his signature.

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17 Jan 2025 10:41:11
Kvara is so overrated, should stay in Italy where he looks like a good player.

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17 Jan 2025 10:56:42
We can’t get our world class players to even sign contracts to stay. Never mind signing world class players to add to the squad. We are a hand to mouth club that doesn’t bring in enough commercial revenue.

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17 Jan 2025 10:57:17
Kvaradona for the price and the wages that he’s asking to go to psg is a bargain, especially if he’s a player we’ve always wanted to bring in but couldn’t because he simply wasn’t available. I understand that nobody ‘official’ said that we were definitely interested in bringing him in, but ornstein writing an entire piece about how we would be interested if he came on the market shortly before conte came out and confirmed he was leaving was as good as an official source, clearly the club briefed him and said he could put his cred on the line reporting that. So why we didn’t move to compete for his signature is kind of a mystery to me, why did ornstein, Joyce and lynch have to come out to say the same thing if we weren’t going to do anything?

I hate all the whiney groany posts on this page lately and don’t want to add to them, it’s like people are itching to vent their negativity all over this site at any given opportunity, but I think this short lived saga was pretty befuddling to say the least.

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17 Jan 2025 11:05:46
Shipley, have you actually seen him play? He was probably Napoli’s best player in his first year in European football (winning the scudetto too) coming from nowhere, and has been playing the same level despite Napoli going through a major self inflicted crisis since then. He’s only 23 and still can be coached to add even more aspects to his game but he is already probably the most unplayable wide player in the world, you just give him the ball and he drives you up the field. It’s okay to convince yourself that he’s maybe not what we need, but don’t make stuff up about how he’s overrated and nothing special. He is a very special player, Napoli fans wouldn’t baptise just anybody the next coming of Diego armando.

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17 Jan 2025 11:43:23
I am surprised how naïve some of you are about how elaborate and patterned LFC's press briefing strategy is before, during and after transfer windows. You are all dancing to Edwards tune.

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17 Jan 2025 12:07:52
WDW we don’t know where the lines are drawn around transfers, and how a decision is made in our recruitment team about what the right price is for any given player. The Bournemouth left back may be worth £40m to them as a seller, but £30m to us as a buyer when we assess his market value. If we don’t feel we can bridge that gap, either because we can’t afford to, or we don’t think it reflects value, we don’t buy.

When there are areas of a team that can be improved, and when there are players out there who are better than what we have and available at a price, we then need to make a judgement call don’t we.

I’m not saying we’re not trying to buy, or that we haven’t identified who we want that would improve on what we have, I’m saying I suspect we’re struggling a bit in the market to secure what we want and need.

We’re not unique in that. I can imagine at the moment because no clubs were called in for PSR for example there’s less imperative for sales, clubs that we previously or would typically do business with the likes of Bournemouth, Forest, Brighton, Wolves for various reasons don’t need or want to sell talent. And also all of the same applies in reverse to the ones we want to offload.

The Saudi market is changing, the foreign clubs are looking for free contract players a lot of the time (or lower value transfer fees), so it’s all quite restricted and tight.

I don’t think we’re only interested in expensive players, much of the business we do is mid market, and youth. We hardly do any ultra expensive stuff.

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17 Jan 2025 12:20:37
@burger Yeah. I've seen him play a lot and for me it would be a complete waste of resources. He plays in a position that is arguably our strongest position whilst we have numerous other positions that desperately need strengthening. He is a good player but definitely not a generational talent. If Diaz had left and we picked him up as a replacement I would have no problem with it but he should not be anywhere near the top of our priorities list right now.
Signing a midfielder to take there strain off Gravenberch and a left-back to solidify our back line would benefit the club ten times more than he would.

And for the record claiming he is "the most unplayable wide player in the world" is making stuff up. I was stating facts. In his best ever season he registered 22 goal involvements - not bad, but Salah had that by Christmas this season. This season he currently has 8 goals involvements in the league. That is the same as Gakpo and 2 less than Diaz and in a far weaker league.

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17 Jan 2025 12:59:30
In fairness hasn’t Diaz been looking to go for 12 months? If so we should be in at the price etc. the right targets do t always come up at the right time. If Diaz goes or even Salah or both in the summer, then he’s needed. We did this when we signed other players knowing we were losing or looking to upgrade a position.

I agree we need cm an lb too but the targets may not be available in this window. I’m hoping Endo is utilised more in second half of season.

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17 Jan 2025 13:39:07
That line seems to be used by Liverpool more than any other club. “The right targets at the right price aren’t available in this window “.

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17 Jan 2025 14:07:43
You're welcome @6 gold stars. I share what I know when I have it.

On the subject of talent anyone saying he isn't talented enough needs to lay of huffing paint.

I watch a fair amount of Italian football and he'd have no problem in the premier league. He's far more physically capable than his small frame appears. Take time to adjust to premier League tempo for sure like all players but he would make it here no doubt.

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17 Jan 2025 15:40:56
Let's face it news outlets spread spurious rumours that are basically c**p.

Having articles about Kerkez, TAA accepting Real Madrid, Diaz telling the club he wants to go Barcelona (when only his Dad said that) gets us all reading and believing.

If the players read these it gets to them, it must do!

We know Marca are Real influenced, and Turki Al Alshikh posting an image of Mo in an Al Hilal kit is just stupid. They start a cascade of untruth.

Until we do sign someone I would take those rumours spread by pure idiots as spurious. They all jump on the band wagon as they did with Zubimendi going to Arsenal because some clown at the Mail said so. According to Spanish papers that was NOT the case.

One thing that small lower league clubs do that we don't is keep the fans informed of the clubs plans. They do not mention names but they do say what sort of players they have their eyes on.

Why not have a spokesperson come out and say we are working on the contract renewals, or we are looking at improving or not?

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17 Jan 2025 20:57:28
Roys agree lots of things are made up to drive traffic to websites etc, agents and clubs release a lot of stuff as well . Some of it’s deliberately false, and there’s loads of game playing. Some of its to manage the fans, some of its to apply a bit of pressure here and there, occasionally some of it’s true.

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