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05 Jan 2019 23:21:53
hi Ed002, if you are about, do you see Lallana moving on in this window as well? its no secret that he wants to move and he hasn't had much game time this past 1.5 years.

Likewise for Markovic, Ejaria, and Pedro who all seemed surplus to requirements and are unlikely to even be on the bench.

Or would the summer be a more likely time for these 4 players to move on.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of Lallana saying he wants to move - his lack of game time is down to injury. As such moving this window would be vey unlikely I would think. Markovic should be released from his contract. Liverpool has no use for Ejaria either and will look to loan him out again initially I would think.}


1.) 06 Jan 2019 07:43:27
Thanks for the response. Much appreciated.


 

 

01 Jan 2019 00:19:33
it's 2019! and the transfer window has opened! not expecting much to happen but i perceive some things may need to be done pending on outgoings. Nonetheless, here are some thoughts (for the next 2 windows) . Please feel free to share your thoughts!

Goalkeepers
Probable outs: Mignolet, Bogdan, Karius (on loan)
Preference: Would hope that we can secure a solid no.2 that can feature in the cup games and deputise ably when needed. but are there keepers of decent quality that is willing and available to do that?

Centrebacks
Not expecting much to change and am happy to keep things as it is.

Rightback
Probable outs: Clyne, Randall
Preference: In my dream world, Wan-Bissaka. If we can secure him, TAA, Gomez, Fab can cover and I think we'll be quite strong in this area. The down side is TAA would have lesser game time as i think Wan-Bissaka is the better fullback and he'll (TAA) have to wait for his chance in middle of the park.

Leftback
Probable outs: Moreno
Preference: Some names that have been thrown around include Laxalt, Tierney, Chilwell. Personally don't know any good LBs but if we are spending, would prefer someone that can challenge Robertson for a starting spot, otherwise the youth prospects can be given a chance? Would really hope to see Roberston given a rest when possible as he really looks knackered in the last game.

Midfield
Probable outs: Lallana, Milner (if Leeds gets promoted and it appears ever more likely), Pedro, Ejaria, Grujic
Preference: For TAA to be in contention to feature in this position. Rabiot's name has been thrown around and while he's quality, he seems to have fair bit of baggage with him? Would think we need at least one addition in the summer. Not too sure if Allan could return, get a permit and is deemed as suitable for the team (he hasn't featured much this season while on loan though)?

Forwards
Probable outs: Sturridge, Origi, Ings (complete transfer), Ojo
Preference: Will Kent and Wilson have a shot next year? I hope at least Wilson will get a chance. Would hope to add one or two players who can play in any position in the front 3 as cover but who is able, available and willing?

Summary of anticipated key deals:
1) LB
2) RB
3) CM
4) GK
5) Forward.


1.) 01 Jan 2019 01:10:08
I see Moreno staying until the end of the season will be interesting though to see if anyone tries to snap him up on a free in January, I expect he will play against Wolves in the FA Cup. I doubt we will have many banging on our door for Mignolet come January or in the summer so I expect him to be backup for next year. I am not sure about Milner moving on, even back to Leeds if they get promoted, I suspect him to be another one to still be here next season unless Klopp wants otherwise. I suspect maybe 2 or 3 new signings next summer at most. As for January maybe one.


2.) 01 Jan 2019 02:52:58
I think that’s a pretty good summary, but none are urgent and most are about leavers and backups, so likely to wait for the summer. As Ed02 mentioned (and I agree here) there’s really no need to disrupt the dressing room much in Jan unless something special comes along we can’t ignore.

Of all the positions in the summer, I think a backup GK, a backup LB and a backup striker are most crucial (assuming Migs, Moreno and Sturridge leave) and need to see senior players coming in as we don’t have obvious subs in any of those positions. After that, i think we can probably cover fine with Ox coming back into Midfield and Fabinho able to play RB, so I would like us to just give the kids a chance to step up in place of Lallana, Clyne etc. as they’re only likely to get game time in an injury crisis. eg we can give opportunities to Wilson, Herbie Kane, Brewster, Camacho, Adam Lewis.


3.) 01 Jan 2019 09:22:49
I’d say this window most likely to leave for me would be Clyne and/ or Origi. But would say we will probably sell

Moreno, Lallana, Sturridge, and maybe Milner in summer.

In terms of youngsters I think Kent, Ejaria, Ojo, Randall and possibly Solanke will all leave this summer.


4.) 01 Jan 2019 09:36:17
Excellent summary mate I'm definetly with you on Wan-Bissaka what a singing he would be. I agree Trent's game time would go down but I believe Klopp would rotate them well and start giving Trent chances in midfield in cup games etc and there would be no need to play Gomez at RB again let him focus solely on improving as a CB. I think its more realistic this happens next year though when a midfielder likely leaves (probably Wijnaldum) and Trent will be guaranteed more game time and Wan-Bissaka is more experienced.

GK I would ideally say Butland as he's English and would be decent back up but honestly don't mind who we get.

On CB reluctantly I would say leave it as is at the moment even though I am not Lovren and Matips biggest fans and 3/ 4 injury prone centre backs is not great its worked so far. Ed002 has mentioned we are looking at young CBs that's probably the ideal signing in that position to cover and an eye on the future as well.

At LB I think Adam Lewis has to be promoted I don't see the point in spending money on a replacement at all unless we don't sign a RB then we'd go for a more experienced LB and send Lewis on loan.

For Midfield if Lallana and Milner leave like everyone expects than I think Fabinho/ Henderson/ Keita/ Wijnaldum/ Ox are great options for the 3 spots. What I'm trying to predict is whether Bobby will start playing more permenantly behind the striker, where Fekir would've played if he signed, in that case I wouldn't sign another midfielder but get a lethal striker. If Bobby is moved back up front then I would get someone in like Fekir. What is confusing me is that I think Ed001 stated Shaqiri was a Fekir alternantive so I'm not sure if we sign a 10 or a striker but the big money will be spent on of those I believe.

The forward area I think we need to put faith in Brewster now have him as the backup ST on the bench once Sturridge, Origi, Ings and probably Solanke leave. We will either have Bobby or a new signing as first choice No.9 and probably Salah as second choice then Brewster to begin with. I'd expext Ojo and Kent to leave permenantly or on loan and Wilson/ Woodburn on another loan with good game time.

I think this a very good potential squad next season.

GK
Alisson, BUTLAND, Grabara

RB
TAA, WAN-BISSAKA

CB
Virgil, Gomez, Lovren, Matip, YOUNG CB

LB
Robertson, Lewis

CDM/ CM/ CAM
Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Wijnaldum, NEW 10, Ox

RW/ LW
Salah, Mane, Shaqiri, Camacho

ST
Bobby, Brewster, Duncan

What does everyone think about this squad and whether we go for a new number 10 or a striker? I really think that's the big singing we will make.


5.) 01 Jan 2019 09:36:31
For the Goalkeeping situation I'd look at Burnley at either Pope (less likely due to his break out season last year) or Heaton the older of the two 31 I think. But he has premier-league experience and he maybe even 3rd choice at Burnley. Either of the two and I'd be happy. Mignolet may get a hard time from the fans but he is a better goalkeeper than some give him credit for and he will go to a decent team when he leaves. I personally thought at Sunderland he had a better season than Pickford when both were signed.


6.) 01 Jan 2019 11:14:32
In. Wan bissaka, de ligt, rabiot and fekir.

Out . Mig, Matip, Moreno, clyne, Milner (let him go on a free if Leeds come up), lallana, sturridge, solanke.

I've no worries anymore about our club.

We are now 4? Transfer windows into klopp and every single one has been pretty much on point.

Don't think klopp will ever sign more than 4 players.

The club don't seem to be cutting corners either on there top targets.

I think letting de ligt and wan bissaka go anywhere else when we are at the top of our game would be I'll advised.

De ligt and vvd for starters and then we ligt and Gomez. for what 12 years?

Wan bissaka is going to be the best rb in the league. Trent can take over Milner in the middle.

Fekir is a beast and rabiot is a great cm.

Always strengthen when you are the top.


7.) 01 Jan 2019 13:17:28
Outs

Migs, Moreno, Clyne, Milner, Lallana, Sturridge.

Ins

Butland, Bissaka, Coutinho.

Promote Lewis, H. Wilson and Brewster.


8.) 01 Jan 2019 13:25:32
There is talk of lloyd kelly left back from Bristol city, could b another Gomez lower division quality.


9.) 01 Jan 2019 14:01:07
Kelly looks like a left sided Gomez. Tall strong fast and a good tackler. Would Ward even come back do you think any of the Ed's? Surely being on the bench back at Liverpool is better than being on the bench at Leicester. I know he left because of the talk of Kasper leaving but that never came off. Or would you expect him to push for a move away from the King Power in search of a regular spot somewhere else?

{Ed001's Note - he is hoping to get regular first team football somewhere.}


10.) 01 Jan 2019 14:30:43
I know we probably have never considered him at any point. But a player I feel would fit well up too would be Jamie Vardey. Even though he’s pushing on in age his pace is still very good along with his finishing. He could play anywhere along the top and offer great cover for the front 3. Surely at his age he may not cost too much and would be far better off the bench than Solanke, Origi, Sturridge.
But I feel cover for full backs is our priority especially left back. Moreno can’t defend and the fact that Milner would often be the second choice left back says it all. We have plenty of cover at centre back and in the middle of the park. But let’s trust Klopp many of his signings have been underwhelming, yet turned out to be very good and very popular. Robertson, Ox, Shaqiri, Wijnaldum.


11.) 01 Jan 2019 18:12:55
I agree Ibiza red he would be brilliant for us, he has that pesky nuisance style that would be boss in our pressing style.


12.) 01 Jan 2019 21:17:35
My argument is that many people want us to buy players that could be £50 million plus and I don’t see that happening. Not that I see us going for Vardey or Leicester selling him to us but I think he would be relatively cheap, may be happier to sit on the bench than many players people want us to sign, he’s english, and I genuinely think he’s a good player and would work in our system.
I think our midfield is fine until the summer, and our defence unless we ship out Moreno then we could do with cover for Robertson.
But in general I don’t feel we need to do anything to this squad until the summer.


13.) 01 Jan 2019 23:58:48
Agree with some of the comments. I actually anticipate about 10 - 15 players leaving this summer (Migs, Clyne, Moreno, Lallana, Markovic, Kent, Ojo, Randall, Solanke, Sturridge, Pedro, etc. ) and am hoping some of the promising youngsters can fill these spots.

I'm unsure if Butland would want to come and sit on the bench at 25, thought Heaton seems possible but am unsure if we have any interest. I will be surprised if Nick Pope doesn't replace Joe Hart if they are still in the PL next year. He is way better than JH.

With the kind of football we play, I actually think we need 7 - 8 CMs to last the distance. Last season we had 6 senior CMs and towards the end, we were short on bodies and fitness.

While I'm all for youth, I think its quite a big risk to rely on Brewster and Duncan only as back-ups for striker / centre forward.

As Ed001 regularly laments, if the window is open for 3/ 4 of the seasons, I would have no issue letting the youngsters have a few months to try out. But if they bottle their chance or is shown to be not ready and we have to go 5-6 months with them, that's a very scary thought for any manager.

Keep the comments coming. Be glad to hear from various ones, even if our opinions differ.


14.) 02 Jan 2019 09:59:50
Personally think we don't need to mess around with squad harmony that much.

Gk
Get rid of mings leave Karius out on loan (recall option impcase of emergency) and let the young lads progress.

Full back.
Keep Clynn and start positional training for left back having him in the squad and rotating will be brilliant.

CB
If no on leaves then we don't need to look we have 4 good CB's that most teams would be happy with.

Midfielder.
No change unless there is a creative player out there available.

Wingers.
Look at Jaden Sancho not sure Dortmund will let him go cheap though.

Forward.
If Sturridge and origi are off we should look at Bellotti strong lad has a good instinct for goal decent in the air personally feel he will be a brilliant signing.

We need to be realistic we all want Mbeppe and players of that caliber but do we need loads of big egos all coming in no.


15.) 02 Jan 2019 21:05:06
Ideally a better senior back up keeper, a 2nd LB to challenge Robbie, and a forward who can play up top or out wide, so we can rotate the front 3 with no loss of quality.


16.) 03 Jan 2019 02:21:32
Migs Will leave so we should get a back up keeper I suppose getting Butland will be viable and we were interested in him last summer.
If Clynes and Milner leave we could get Wan Bissaka and start playing A. Arnold more in Middlefield.
If Moreno leaves we can promote A. Lewis as back up for Robertson.
It seems Lallana is leaving so we need a player who can play forward and Middlefield so who can be better than Coutinho who is available.
H. Wilson deserve a chance to be part of the next season.
If Sturridge leaves we still have Origi, Solanke and Brewster but at least one should leave on loan.

Then the team will be like this (4-2-3-1):

Alisson/ Butland
Bissaka/ A. Arnold
Robertson/ A. Lewis
VanDijk/ Matip
Lovren/ Gomez
Henderson/ Fabinho
Keita/ Wijnaldum
Mane/ H. Wilson
Firmino/ Shaqiri
Coutinho/ Chamberlain
Salah/ Origi/ Solanke/ Brewster.

{Ed0333's Note - lots of unreal variables there mate


 

 

 

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07 Jan 2019 02:51:15
Aloha everyone! Match day! can't wait for it. looking forward to a good game.

While we are at it, just wanted to hear from various ones, which was the most complete performance you've ever seen a Liverpool team (past and present) dish out? A that we were utterly dominant, faultless and played the opponent off the park because of how good we were.

{Ed001's Note - 5-0 v Nottingham Forest. Never saw it at the time, but I got a video one birthday of the game and we destroyed them.}


1.) 07 Jan 2019 07:10:59
Agree with Ed001. At the time Forest were 2nd in the league and FA cup semi finalists, so our biggest competition that season. Sir Tom Finney said it was the finest exhibition of football he had seen (Or something like that) . The shame of it was that the game wasn't televised so until the season review came out on video, the only people to witness it were the 40 odd thousand in Anfield.


2.) 07 Jan 2019 07:38:40
That entire season was unbelievable.
QPR home - Barnes, Coventry away when about 10,000 reds landed en masse and Barnes and Beardsley showed us what was in store, Newcastle away - Nicol hat trick, Arsenal home, Everton home. the list goes on.
Honestly everyone was singing about winning the league by November.
Our kid always talks about the Molby double v Utd, I missed the game, don’t know what the * I was doing lol.


3.) 07 Jan 2019 09:21:57
Beating Madrid 4-0 with Torres scoring first. Or maybe beating Porto last season.


4.) 07 Jan 2019 10:55:26
7-0 against Spurs in 1978 with Terry Mac's header. still my favourite Anfield goal. If you haven't seen it, get on you tube.


5.) 07 Jan 2019 10:55:42
Hi ed was that the video with all the goals from that season on it too? Got it meself as a kid, what a game that was, what a team.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, I used to get them every year. I remember the 9-0 win over Palace me ma had to send away for the video and I watched that game until the tape wore out.}


6.) 07 Jan 2019 11:59:55
Liverpool 9 Crystal Palace 0 1989. They used to use it as the video/ game for up and coming coaches to learn from at St Georges Park.

What a performance.


7.) 07 Jan 2019 12:02:58
the 5-0 over Forest and 7-0 over Spurs were all before my time though I've seen it on video now.

Really amazing performances. It wasnt that Forest was bad that they lost 5-0, they actually played a pretty good game. But they were totally battered by a superior team on that day.

The Terry Mac goal was crazy, the game was already done with by then, yet he charged up the field on a counter to put that in after the cross from Heighway. Have heard many a Spurs fan say the best thing they heard that day was the final whistle.


8.) 07 Jan 2019 12:12:20
4-0 against Real Madrid under Rafa or the 3-0 against Man City last season.


9.) 07 Jan 2019 14:28:12
MK. i remembered the 4-0 against RM. couldn't believe what I was seeing.

3-0 against City last season was amazing too. Genuinely believe that if Salah was on for the whole game, it might have been 5-0 by the end of the night.

On another note, i just watched our goal against City in the recent game (i rarely watch any highlights after a loss as it pains me too much) and my word, from back to front, wing to wing, we really made City look ordinary.


10.) 07 Jan 2019 14:41:10
Or, in recent times; the 7 0 win over Watford last season. I think it was 7 0, Wolves may have got one or two? But it was an amazing performance. Our new striker, Salah, blowing us away when some of us even doubted the signing.

I haven't seen us as in control of games as we have been this season. Not for a long, long time.

Also, smashing Porto 5 0 last season. Completely battered them. The fab four, and then the three musketeers.

I wouldn't mind it if pipco came back. I can imagine Barcelona being a collection of big egos, rather than a team of 20 players, all backing each other up. His family are scousers, I bet they want to come home. We used to just give him the ball but now I think we have a much much stronger team and he could easily fit in. We need a midfielder who can score, regularly. Milly gets the odd penalty and gini sometimes turns up at the edge of the box.

I'd love to see Keita getting a good run in the team. He has goals in him, no doubt.


11.) 07 Jan 2019 14:59:36
The palace game was going to be my shout.


12.) 07 Jan 2019 19:11:29
I still have the VHS for the 87-88 season Liverpool - The Mighty Reds.

{Ed025's Note - betamax was still available the last time you won the league bobby.. :)


 

 

05 Jan 2019 23:21:19
So it seems the dust has settled more. Personally, I really disliked the result but wasn't at all disappointed with the performance or tactics for most parts.

On the match:
It was an entertaining match that either side that could have gone on to win. A draw would probably have been a fair result, but it wasnt to be.

On team selection:
Klopp went for the tried and tested formation and players that worked well against city previously. While it seems we have rushed Milner back (he wasnt great but I didn't think he was awful either), Pep did the same for Silva which was hardly in the 2game. It seems so much was at stake that both managers turned to their trusted players.

While Fab did well when he came on, I think many people also forgot that he did looked edgy at the start of the Arsenal game. So we wouldn't have known how he would have been if he had started. I for one, in a 4-3-3, in a big game, would have gone for Hendo as well. Honestly, I think he had a decent game too.

Would a 4-2-3-1 have worked better? Maybe. But as Ed001 pointed out, the players were holding back, so regardless of formation, it might not have made such a big difference. Afterall, we conceded our 2nd goal in this formation which was supposed to give us greater protection while not compromising attacking impetus.

On luck:
Let's remind ourselves that we have had good luck in this season so far. Mahrez missed a late penalty at Anfield which would have surely seen the game end 1-0 in favor of City. We scored a 96min winner against Everton in the most unlikely of circumstances. Sturridge hit a wonder strike at Chelsea to make it 1-1 just as we looked to have ran out of ideas.

We were.


1.) 06 Jan 2019 07:15:58
Well said - tactically it was really close and could have been a draw but for the width of a post, however I would have loved to see Fabinho and Gini at the base of midfield in more of a 4-2-3-1, allowing Firmino to drop a little deeper and take Fernandinho out of the game a bit more. Maybe that could have ended with us losing 3-0 though, so who knows?

City played well and deserved their win, but we've had a good season (yes with lucky breaks, but so have all other sides) and for me that's largely on the back of our defence being so frugal. Our defence and front three hasn't changed on the back of one away loss to the best side the PL has seen in a long time, so let's go put together another unbeaten run and see whether City can cling to our coat tails!


2.) 06 Jan 2019 18:20:28
Brilliant post, Sgynwa. Best post about the game I have read all weekend. Maybe Milner should not have started that game cos he just came back from injury and the level of intensity in that game was not for a guy with no rhythm. Also, I fully agree with you that many were spouting off that Fab should have started. Maybe Klopp decided against it cos we saw how vulnerable he was when pressed at Arsenal and believe me, the Arsenal press was child's play compared to City unleashed upon us esp. in the first half which despite all of that. we handled pretty well, IMO. Would Fab have handled that the same way Hendo and Wiji did? We will never know.

I was against going all gong ho and starting Shaq as well cos it was not up to us to take he game to City cos had we done that and STILL lost, I bet you the same people howling now, would be howling still, saying why did we not try to contain them. I mean, there is a reason why a manager gets the big bucks and the rest of us sit at home and watch games so I don't deal with all that hindsight nonsense anymore.

As I have said before, any winner from that game deserved to win it due to the type of game it was. It was a barn-stormer of a game where you could literally both managers tactics working and how they were canceling each other out. Breathtaking stuff. One game at a time and we will see what happens. Up Da Pool!


 

 

31 Dec 2018 09:04:20
Hi everyone, so much has happened in 2018. Really appreciate the Eds and posters of this site. Often we don't agree, but appreciate everyone's inputs as we talk about the sport and club we love so much.

It has been one heck of a ride in 2018 with the amazing CL journey, bar the final. A dominant display in the PL this season and raising our hopes for no. 19 at last. It's a good time to be a Red.

Riding into the new year, while my missus is asking me what i'm looking forward to in 2019, I dare not tell her, that the top 3 things are all Liverpool related!

1) Match against Man City
Yes, it's going to be a titanic clash and I'm quietly confident we can beat them. Both teams will be up for it but if we learned anything in Dec, Liverpool have the confidence, momentum, a very strong defence, and now a very good midfield and an attack that has clicked again. At the same time, we've also seen the vulnerability of Man City's backline exposed time and again with some midtable teams taking points from them, and others giving them a scare. All in all, there is no reason why we can't win if we play to our ability.

Already, Pep is playing some mind games (I perceive) by claiming that we are probably the best team in the world right now, and this match will decide the title (although it's only Jan) . But I trust Klopp and the leaders within the team to have sound minds to keep the team focused only on our own game plan.

2) The title race (and maybe more)
Even if we were to win against City, we still need to take one game at a time, because no matter how dominant we were in any single match, the league is won via a series of consistent performances and results. In the same tune, even if we were to lose, I would say, fred not. Sure, it would be a psychological blow to us, it will test our resolve to bounce back, but within the larger context of the title hunt, it only means we have a smaller cushion. In 2014, we won the epic match 3-2 against City at Anfield, City won the title. In 2009, we spanked Utd 4-1 at Old Trafford, Utd lifted the Pl trophy. Such big matches matter for a variety of reasons, but they are worth 3 points still. Let us not blown things out of proportion should the worse happen, because champions are the ones who collected most points in a season, not the team with the most dominant performance in a match.

Oh, and given that we are sill in the FA cup and CL, who's to say we can't win the treble this year? One can always dream.

3) Transfers
The window will open shortly, though we shouldn't expect too much to happen in Jan. But i'm still excited to see the kind of business we'll do in Jan and again in the summer. Will probably have it out in detail in another post and invite fellow Eds and posters for comments.

All in all, exciting times ahead! have a great end to 2018 and an even better 2019!


1.) 31 Dec 2018 10:41:39
The way I look at is that up until 4 - 5 games ago we weren't playing that brilliant, grinding out results and we were still only just behind city.

We have stepped up a level recently but I still think that there is more to come.


2.) 31 Dec 2018 23:34:18
This match is more than 3 points to me. In larger context, yes its just another match having 3 points. At present it will just widen the gap between our rivals. Already we have 9 point cushion against spurs. Think of 10 point cushion against City. Still 17 games to play after City. We will draw here and there. Its nice to have cushion.


 

 

30 Dec 2018 01:48:06
What a 2018 it has been! One game at a time, but we are in a commanding position now and the team is not showing any signs of slowing down.

Some brief thoughts about the match:
Was just talking about drop kicks the other day and Alisson had gone on to produce one of the best ever. Pace on the ball, accuracy, effectiveness. One for the collector's item Ed001? (oh, and seeing how Leno struggled all night with playing out from the back made me appreciate the calmness and distribution of Alisson even more)

Mane was a live wire and caused them endless troubles. Having him like that against City will send shivers down their back line.

What else can we say about Firmino? His touches, passes, flicks, runs were just amazing. Well deserved hat-trick - great penalty, great solo goal and of course, the customary no look goal.

While we absolutely smashed the gunners, I thought we looked a bit open until Hendo came on to really control the midfield. (I always feel we are more compact and have greater control in the middle when he plays. Much as he is criticized for always passing backwards and sideways, which is a myth in any case, knowing when and how to play those passes goes a long way in maintaining possession and control)

Slight concern for me was our fullbacks, especially on the right as it seems the particular move that led to their goal is a weakness of ours - we conceded a similar goal aginst Utd. Also thought Lovern was sucked to the ball a few times and could have done better positionally on a few occasions. And of course, at one point, Fab looked slightly overwhelmed by the occasion in the first half.

Then again, we must have done something right defensively as Auba didn't even have a sniff all night.

Nonetheless, I trust that we'll be up for it on Thursday and will be much more solid than last night. On to the Ethihad to start a great 2019!

P. S. Looking forward to the post match review of Ed001 if you are able to squeeze any time out at all. If not, have a great end of the year and let's keep fingers crossed that come May 2019, you'll be doing a review about our title winning season.

{Ed001's Note - it was a brilliant pass from Allison. As for the full backs, surely it was Robertson who was the problem of the two? He barely made a pass to a red shirt in the first half and put us under pressure a few times. Mane had to cover a few times for him, though he did get a bit carried away with it at one point!

As for the match review, I doubt I will get the chance, we are pretty much only home to watch us play at the moment.}


1.) 30 Dec 2018 07:08:19
Agreed on the Robertson point, though it starts to feel slightly narcissistic when the team are playing so well as a whole and after a 5-1 thumping to complete an unbelievable December?
It’s just a pleasure to watch this team play and see some of the things that they produce.

It would be ironic too if this turned out to be ‘our year’ when Gerrard left the club to go up to Scotland (great win for Rangers yesterday too, what an atmosphere at Ibrox) .
On the subject of title talk, I’m not sure where I stand on it - the brash, confident Shankly-like approach or the quiet wolf in carpet slippers of Paisley.
Probably the latter, though I understand the virtues of the former too.
Great times to be a Liverpool fan again though, that’s the main thing.

{Ed001's Note - it does feel harsh but Paisley would have wanted to point out where it went wrong, just as much as where it went right, and that is why he was so good. The moment you stop looking at where to improve is the moment you start to stagnate. In football you never stand still, you either improve or you find yourself overtaken by others who do.}


2.) 30 Dec 2018 07:27:49
True enough Ed001.
On the subject of which, would you get any transfers in during January or appraise after outgoings?
If Clyne were sold, I’d love a big FO signing like Antonio but that would be in the realms of Augustus Gloop-like indulgence. It is Christmas though 😁.

{Ed001's Note - just replace outs I think, where needed.}


3.) 30 Dec 2018 07:30:02
I think Klopp is handling it all very well. Keeping us grounded and not letting the team get ahead of themselves.


4.) 30 Dec 2018 09:36:41
It seems Hendo plays better with Fabinho playing next to or behind him. Definitely more offense oriented.


5.) 30 Dec 2018 10:57:40
Match review:

Liverpool: 10.
Arsenal: 2.

MoM: Firmino

Klopp: 10.
Emery: 1.


6.) 30 Dec 2018 17:44:34
I played a couple seasons as a keeper and found i had greater distance out of a drop kick. Something about the kinetic energy you can generate as the ball bounces. Lol any physicits out there? Also that pass from Allison was beautiful, tho if you have got the dropkick down that oass ian't that hard to execute as the natural swing is always going to be left to right. We used to love taking drop kicks at rugby posts from the right sideline and practicing slicing 'em in. Good fun

Also about the goals we've conceded. I swear maybe 3, incl the arsenal one, came as part of either a defender or midfielder diving in and missing. That then leads to the opposition running on our box. That area of our game can be exposed either by us being rash or up against technical teams.


 

 

27 Dec 2018 01:37:26
Get in lads! what a performance and result!

There's so much to cheer about:

1) Our defence is so mean, even right at the death, Alisson didn't want to get beaten and the defenders were racing back to the goal line to cover (something that didn't happen previously) . I bet the other teams are now wondering will they ever get a goal against us.

2) The front 3 is clicking. Some of the interplay between them is unbelievable. Getting into the groove at this stage of the season is wonderful.


3) Our midfield was an area of weakness last season. Industrious but seemed to lack creativity and personnel. This season we are well stocked with different type of players that can help us play the way we want to. Personally, I like the 2 '6's arrangement. Feels that is makes us defensively stronger while also enabling an extra body in attack when needed.

I was particularly impressed with Hendo - what an amazing performance. My favorite moments though were when he asked the ref 'for what? ' on 2 occasions when he was deemed to have foul when clearly he has won those 50-50 challenges. Aside from that, he broke up play, drove the team forward and what a pass to TAA to set up the 3rd goal.

During the X'mas season i kept quiet when people reminded us time and again that Liverpool has led during X'mas on 3 occasions, and failed to win each time. While that is true, Man City has NEVER defended a league title. So one of this trend has to be busted and I'm backing us to go all the way.

Milner has already done his part in ensuring the favor of the trends stays with us earlier this month: whenever Cork scored, his team had never lost. Same goes for Milner. I was dreading a draw with Burnley when both scored. But we won.

So yea, we are going to win it this time!


1.) 27 Dec 2018 09:55:07
Or the spurs are actually going to win something :-/ Robbie savage callrd them out of the race after 2 losses, and since he said hand city the title they have been pants.


2.) 27 Dec 2018 13:49:01
Spurs look set to win the silver medal. They will also win the finished-above-the-arse medal. Poch is doing a fine job.


 

 

 

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06 Jan 2019 07:43:27
Thanks for the response. Much appreciated.


 

 

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01 Jan 2019 23:58:48
Agree with some of the comments. I actually anticipate about 10 - 15 players leaving this summer (Migs, Clyne, Moreno, Lallana, Markovic, Kent, Ojo, Randall, Solanke, Sturridge, Pedro, etc. ) and am hoping some of the promising youngsters can fill these spots.

I'm unsure if Butland would want to come and sit on the bench at 25, thought Heaton seems possible but am unsure if we have any interest. I will be surprised if Nick Pope doesn't replace Joe Hart if they are still in the PL next year. He is way better than JH.

With the kind of football we play, I actually think we need 7 - 8 CMs to last the distance. Last season we had 6 senior CMs and towards the end, we were short on bodies and fitness.

While I'm all for youth, I think its quite a big risk to rely on Brewster and Duncan only as back-ups for striker / centre forward.

As Ed001 regularly laments, if the window is open for 3/ 4 of the seasons, I would have no issue letting the youngsters have a few months to try out. But if they bottle their chance or is shown to be not ready and we have to go 5-6 months with them, that's a very scary thought for any manager.

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31 Dec 2018 23:57:07
Lloyd Kelly is still very young, 20yo i believe. He is tall, a very good athlete though need to bulk up. Has good technical ability but needs to work on reading of the game and his defensive skills as he tends to use his physical attributes more at the moment. Currently he plays at LB though he is expected to play in CB in 4-5 years time (a bit like how Gomez has progressed you can say) .

Seemed to be highly rated in Bristol and at England U21 level.


 

 

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23 Dec 2018 11:16:37
Haa, i do mean chubby, esp Maguire. seems to just have put on a bit of weight though i can't tell ifs its muscles or fats.

but clubby works fine too in this context.

as for Coady, i asked the same qns as grino some time back. he does look decent, especially with his long passes that Wolves have put into good effect. but he does seem a little suspect defensively. he was culpable for Salah's opener. still, he was one we groomed and i do hope that he will have a good career and who knows, in his late 20s, might become a decent squad player for us?

{Ed001's Note - the opener was Boly at fault, as he was a number of times and Coady had to cover. He was also there to cover Bennett a couple of times. However he does need to be deep enough to spot the danger and come across, when he is up higher he just does not seem to read the game at all well. His passing is excellent though.}


 

 

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23 Dec 2018 05:13:39
isit just me or does Tarkowski and Maguire look a bit chubby? would have neither anyway was our current 4 CBs seem adequate enough.

{Ed001's Note - was that a typo and you meant clubby as in club-footed?}


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2019 01:28:25
and so if Derby starts losing games, because their tactics have now been thoroughly exposed, will Bielsa be charged with another leak of some sort?

he hasn't done anything wrong here in his presentation to the press, except that he is behaving like the top student who shared all his notes and if anyone is smart enough to read it, they'll become smarter as well, except the sulky student who wished to be top but doesn't quite put in enough effort and is now angry that the top student is behaving in an 'unfair' manner.


 

 

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17 Jan 2019 01:15:43
i'm really hoping no stupid rules emerge from this incident. i mean, rather than trying to learn from someone that is thoroughly meticulous in preparation that can actually help to improve English football, are we seriously going to invent some new rules / laws in the name of fairplay to kill off innovation, good practices that can actually help English teams to get better?

Lampard has been half decent for Derby, but he ought to hold his hands up that he hasn't worked quite hard enough to get the better of Biesla on the pitch. If only he learned and say 'hey, i'm going start doing that too, i'm going to be even more thorough in my analysis of opposition, preparations, etc', perhaps he might turn out to be a good manager later on.


 

 

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14 Jan 2019 14:02:52
Ed025, i'm sure he was. i remember seeing some old video whereby interviews were conducted in the city of Liverpool about the departure of Rush to Juve and a man said 'thank God! '. to which the interviewer wisely guessed he was an Evertonian.

wonder what will you do to get someone like a Graeme Sharp, Alan Ball and Southall in the current team?

{Ed025's Note - personally....dig maggie thatcher up and make love to her live on granada reports.. :)


 

 

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My Ed025. So who was the biggest Monster in your nightmares? Ian rush? I believe he had a knack of scoring against Everton, especially in finals.

But I concur with the comments above. Your nightmares just might be returning for an extended period.

{Ed025's Note - rushie was a pain in the neck to us sg, he was a freak (in the best possible sense) who started the defending from the front concept, he had this awful knack of scoring as well...especially against us mate..


 

 

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14 Jan 2019 01:27:10
Thank for the read. Quality as always.

I think for Hendo this will never go away, no matter how well he plays. Playing sideway and backward pass to keep the ball moving, the game going is not as easy as many people claim (have a poor first touch, a poor pass, the wrong pass or pass to the wrong player and the opposition is all over you), and that’s not the only thing he brings to the team. He closes down, tracks back, presses, passes FORWARD, organises, stand up to bullies against his teammates, questions questionable referring decisions, etc

I’m just waiting for the moment Hendo lifts the PL trophy in May. He’s come so close as a captain to lift trophies on 3 occasions, I hope to God (and Fowler) that this time round he’ll get to do it as captain.

{Ed0333's Note - I reckon when Hendo lifts the Premier League trophy he’ll pass it sideways to a team mate..