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13 Nov 2018 01:21:48
much has been said and this topic and it will probably ring on till the end of the season.

but let's put some things in perspective.


1. we are only 2 points behind city.

2. we have yet to lose a game.

3. we've beaten everyone outside of the supposed top 6.

4. we have the joint-top defence in the league! can you believe it? (until last season we still needed to out-score opponents due to our leaky defence! )

5. in spite not firing on all cylinders, our attack is among the top 5 in the league.

6. yes, we should have won the game against arsenal and still be level on points w City. but just as possible, we could have lost the game against Chelsea (until Studge's wonder strike) and against City (fortunately they missed the penalty), that would set us 6 pts behind City if all other results remained the same.

we are in a very strong position. let's see where we are at after X'mas, in Apr, and of course, at the end of the season.


1.) 13 Nov 2018 05:32:02
We have been winning and we have some mighty luck shining on us too. Perfect for the title.


 

 

12 Oct 2018 14:52:03
it's really getting tiresome now. there's a video circulating around to say how other players ignored passing the ball to Henderson because they don't trust him. With others now jumping on him to say he had a bad game, side and back passes only and even some who blamed him for causing our attack to lose fluidity!

I mean, what must the man do to be appreciated? He had a great game and helped to keep our midfield ticking against some really class players. It seems like many fans really don't get what it takes to play in central midfield. They prefer Gini, who hides from the ball, than Hendo who offers himself for the ball. They are claiming Fabinho, who is still adjusting, will take his place any time.

Henderson is a very good midfielder. He is energetic (but had to restrain himself due to the role he plays), disciplined, good positioning (this is most obvious when Gini places in his place as we don't seem to retain, recover and recycle the ball as well), tactically aware, responsible, technically sound, can play a quick and accurate forward ball, and leads by example. There isn't many CMs out there better than him. I guess he, sadly, belongs to the group where his presence is really felt only when he's not there.


1.) 12 Oct 2018 17:10:45
Great post sgynwa

Unfortunately there seems to be some people who'll never accept Hendo no matter how well he plays.
He's a worthy Captain and great role model on and off the pitch. unlike some former players I could mention!


2.) 12 Oct 2018 18:13:02
There can be no solid foundation or basis for anything like this. Henderson is regularly one of the top, if not the top, passers in the league every year, isn't he? And to make a pass, you need to receive a pass first, right? So if players are not passing him the ball then it can only be in practice, because I don't see that during matches. The stats speak louder than words, in this case. And if he's passing the ball sideways or back then that's what the team tactics are dictating, if he is playing DM and is being pressured.

Nothing but agitation by agitators doing what they do best: agitate.


3.) 12 Oct 2018 19:11:32
Every match Hendo is at the heart of the midfield. Collect and pass, collect and pass. He ticks like a metronome. Anyone who thinks he does nothing except sideways and back isn’t actually watching. Presumably too busy concocting some tripe for instagram/ Facebook or whatever this weeks fad is.


4.) 12 Oct 2018 19:14:08
As always ra, great post mate.


5.) 12 Oct 2018 20:53:26
Great posts thru out the thread, lads. Hendo is BOSS, end of story. He has the respect of his team mates, his coaches and the manager. Hendo is brave, selfless, gives his all for the team, cares about his team mates and will put his body on the line for the shirt. To me, those are the people and things that matter to any fan and that much is clear. Don't care what anyone else thinks, really.


6.) 12 Oct 2018 21:02:18
Thanks Salah. Sorry I read about your other troubles. I hope you overcome those too, as you have many others. And just as a side note. A hat trick right about now (our next game) would do beautifully for team (and your own) spirit. Keep the faith. 💪👍.


7.) 12 Oct 2018 21:51:40
Cheers ra, things will improve, I have no doubts :) . Hope life is treating you well mate.


8.) 13 Oct 2018 07:48:35
Sgynwa cracking post that mate and can see you’re a big fan of Hendo’s with your passion to defend him. Pity you had to throw Wijnaldum under the bus though to contradict your support for 1 player.


9.) 13 Oct 2018 10:12:28
Sgynwa, spot on about Hendo but you are another one who is quick to jump on the anti-Wijnaldum bandwagon with the tiresome and totally inaccurate ‘hides from the ball’ jibe. Criticism of a performance when deserved is one thing but this continual damning of a player as not good enough is pathetic. The managers of Liverpool FC and The Netherlands - who might just know a thing or two about football - don’t have a problem with Wijnaldum so why do you and so many other so-called Liverpool supporters? Just get behind the lad for pities sake.


10.) 13 Oct 2018 11:26:21
Just do not get the abuse and criticism that Henderson receives. Due to my location I no longer get to see the games live anymore. However even on the TV coverage it appears to me that Henderson is always in a position to offer options to players with the ball. He tracks down runners, makes challenges to influence the game (Cavani in the first two mins of the PSG game springs to mind) , always gives his all and will stick up for his team mates. Perhaps I am wrong and the game has moved on and these attributes are no longer required in a player.


11.) 13 Oct 2018 17:13:42
Anyone that knows me on this site will know that I have always been a massive supporter of Hendo but for some reason that I will never know the lad has a element of doubters, as to why I will never bloody know. Now lad's I have said it time and time again GET OFF HIS BACK please. The lad would run through a brick wall for the club etc, etc so give it a rest for those of you who doubt his value to the team/ club. Because if you really do doubt him well all I can can say is that YOU HAVEN'T A CLUE!


 

 

19 Sep 2018 12:39:06
6 in 6. Whao! Hope this keeps going!

just 3 observations on my end.

1) Milner - he seems to be the best midfielder in the team now! when he 1st joined and even up till last season, he looked uncomfortable as an CM. His passing was off, running into space was not purposeful, dropping too deep when defending, and perhaps running around too much when pressing. But this season, his passing has been solid, positioning much better and his overall decision making seems to be great. At times, he has restrained his chasing about and pointed to other players to do the pressing / closing down and I thought it helped to keep the team shape better. I don't know how he does it, but he is proving me very wrong as I thought he might never make it as a CM in our team.

2) Salah, since mid / end last season he has been squaring up against the defenders with his back facing them. It seems more and more prevalent as teams close out the spaces for him to run at them and also as he takes up positions to be able to spin around them. I do think that once it clicks for him, quick 1-2s, give and gos, or just salah spinning around defenders will be us yet another potent attacking dimension.

3) Mane - he is gliding pass players with ease again!


 

 

26 Aug 2018 14:41:52
1st up, welcome back Salah.

next, wanted to get some inputs from Ed 001.

people have been clamoring about Gini's performance last night, citing his passing stats and all. personally, i thought he did very average to be honest. and his passing stats are so fantastic cause he always choose the safest option (the no. of times he passed back and sideways was way more than Hendo but no one seems to pick that up) .

in contrast, after Hendo came on, i see that we had greater control and authority in the middle. Hendo simply reads the game better, positions himself better and has a better passing range and accuracy. the only reason his stats isn't supposedly as good is because at times he takes risks when a pass forward is on.

am i biased against Gini, clamoring Hendo too much or not understanding the game? Cause i really cannot see how or why Gini is considered the superior player or had a better performance yesterday.

{Ed001's Note - I agree with you to a degree, but, putting aside pointless stats like passing %age, he broke forward well only to play the ball back away from the danger. He broke up play defensively well and then played the safe ball, which is what you want him to do. Then there was his ball juggling, which he got away with as he had a heavy touch at the end and would have given the ball away if he hadn't been given a very kind decision. He was just ok for me, I was actually thinking it was between him and Keita to go off for Hendo as I thought Gini was wandering out of position far too much for my liking.}


1.) 26 Aug 2018 18:41:42
You are not the only one, I decided not to reply to a post further down because there is no need for anything negative to be said right now I feel. But since you mentioned it he definitely is just not quite good enough sadly, because he is a genuine whole-hearted player. I will be perfectly happy for him to rise up and prove me wrong of course. Hope the positive patrol don't crucify us.

Also I know its been mentioned a lot but Salah, the post you made was beautiful and honestly left me speechless. Hope you and the family are all well and YNWA.


2.) 26 Aug 2018 19:48:50
Thank you very much lads much appreciated :) .


3.) 26 Aug 2018 23:17:02
Ed do you not think Gini could be great as a ‘get the ball back’ type midfielder, who also has some talent? He seems to win it with ease at time, I feel he could be the next Milner say - basically 7/ 10 in every department, if he fine tuned a few things.

{Ed001's Note - if he had any aggression in his play he could play any role. However he has none, that is why he vanishes in away games when he is needed to win the ball back more often.}


 

 

26 May 2018 02:25:10
Salah, given that Hendo is not on this site, can you gently remind him to ensure none of our lads touch the trophy during the walk-in. Amongst the many other great things he has already done as captain, this will rank amongst the top!

And as I was saying in another post, Kimmich got 2 goals playing against Marcelo. Surely, 4 from you isn't too much to ask? One tap in, one left foot top corner stunner, one lob over the on rushing keeper and another slotting pass him after a lightening counter attack.

Given that we are going for a 5-0 win, perhaps the other goal could be assisted by Mane, scored by no-look Firmino, capped off with kung-fu kick celebrations.

And here's to a tight compact defensive display that sees RM having no shots on target, no dubious refeering decisions. Let's just settle for a boring James Milner 5-0 win and an unfancied Hendo lifting big ears tonight.

YNWA.


1.) 26 May 2018 07:46:36
sgynwa, for you mate, I'll have a word with Hendo :)

4 goals, is that all you want from me? mate I'm up against Marcelo and Navas, I'm going for the 5! I'm a record breaker and intend on breaking more tonight ;) . Lol whatever you are doing tonight sgynwa, hope you have a great time mate!


 

 

 

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28 Oct 2018 02:38:18
personally thinks the priority positions for the next couple of windows, if things remain the same, would be

1) back-up GK (Migs really isn't up to scratch even as a no. 2)
2) LB for competition (Chilwell? but will he come? )
3) RB (assuming Clyne leaves and TAA is to be tried out in CM. not the most urgent as we currently have 4 players that can play in that role and some youngsters too)


 

 

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29 Jul 2018 13:23:05
year 2005: After watching Alonso I know for sure he will not be effective in our midfield I thibk he is way too slow .

Yes he reminds me of pirlo who is also slow but he's always been effective

But for this Liverpool team I thibk a makelele style player would have been better.

Note: My opinion is that Alonso was part of the last great midfield we had in recent time. oh and yes, he was really slow.


 

 

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01 May 2018 02:56:45
1. Haa. Ed001 comment on Big Sam and Pardew had me laughing (because it's so true) . While we hope that competence, aptitude, ability and decency are key qualities in determining our career opportunities and ceiling, it isn't always the case. There are other things like contacts and relationships, supposed relevant experiences, limited options of those available, once-off / previous but dated successes that people still clamor about, reputation, etc. That is how some incompetent or semi-competent people continue to hold big jobs while others are still waiting for their chance.

2. Being marginalized is never a good feeling, especially when your role and functions are being redefined so drastically. I just wonder if this is a case of Klopp adapting (as Ed002 often said he is a stubborn man) while Buvac not doing so / or agreeing to it. But to have the fall-out made public now is indeed, very bad timing.

3. Be it reconciliation or replacement, it is imperative to find the right man. Many a great manager had lost their way after their able partner moved on (cue Brian Clough) and I certainly hope this isn't the case for Klopp for the sake of LFC.

{Ed001's Note - I don't believe it is only about him feeling marginalised as such. More that they have fought in the past but Buvac has always swiftly resolved their differences because they are friends and Klopp needed him. Now Klopp has others he no longer needs Buvac in the same way so Buvac is not under the same pressure to resolve it to help him out.

When your best friend or a close family member needs your help, even though s/he is being a little bitch about everything and you end up bickering constantly, you do tend to just put it aside to help her/him. But the moment s/he stops needing your help and s/he acts like a little bitch, you just say sod em and leave them to it. While I am not saying Klopp is acting like a little bitch, I am just pointing out that the motivation to resolve their differences is lessened when there is no longer that need for your presence.}


 

 

 

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08 Nov 2018 18:14:32
Just some thoughts for the match.

1st goal - I thought both Lallana and VVD were culpability. Lallana was there to block the run but he allowed the striker a free run and didn’t even try to stop him. VVD for not attacking the ball and reacting to it when it’s too late.

2nd goal - yes Milner had a couple of loose passes in the match, this instance being one. But I thought he wasn’t helped by Gini who was constantly hiding. If he had just taken 2 steps nearer to Milner, he would be better placed to receive the ball. And he did have plenty of time to recover but he didn’t even try to tackle! He was weak and was shrugged off way too easily. Then with 2 CBs facing ONE striker, Matip should have gone forward to close down the player, but he didn’t.

Salah - I personally thought Salah played decently. He was able to turn with the ball, run with it and take on players without losing it. He even created space to shoot! Something which he hasn’t quite been able to do much this season.

Disappointed but we still have 2 games and are in total control about qualification.

P.S. People used to criticise Lucas for giving away free kicks in dangerous positions but that’s his role in preventing attackers have a free run or shot. I think a player like him is missed more than a no. 10 at the moment.


 

 

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08 Nov 2018 10:41:10
Agree w coco. Shame isn’t it. At one time, his pace, movement, quick feet and lethal finishing was a joy to watch. Just having him on the team sheet have you assurance that there’ll be goals or at the very least, threat to the opposition defence. He still has goals in him but will never be the player that he was again sadly.

Seems like he has to reinvent himself to become a starter at a big club again.


 

 

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06 Nov 2018 05:55:32
With the comments of OP, sometimes I wonder if Ed025 is a bigger Liverpool fan than those who attest to be so. He fancies our team, believes in our team, enjoys watching our team and has High regard for what we are doing and where we are headed. Heck, he even has to praise our team to our supporters!

I don’t know if we are going to win anything but I so desperately hope we do. But it’s Nov and we are still in the title race (which usually ends by end of Oct for us), still in CL (and is looking to qualify from tough group) and haven’t even started playing in the FA cup! What more do we want? Be 30 pts ahead in the table and have a place in the finals booked already? On TOP of that, 5 new quality signings that are already lined up for next season just waiting for 1 Jul for the transfer to be official?


 

 

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06 Nov 2018 02:01:10
only 7-0 by kick off? you are understating Ed001. you better have the trophy ready to be paraded after the 1st game of the season.

there is no doubt Liverpool has progressed significantly under Klopp.

Yes, we've not won anything under him, and I'm as desperate as anyone to win something, esp. the PL title.

But just look at the past 3.5 years:

Been to finals? checked.

Amazing European nights? checked.

Becoming regulars in the top 4? checked.

Being a team to be reckoned with in the league and in Europe? checked.

Having an attack that is a joy to watch? checked.

Having a defence that is no longer leaking goals such that we win each game 5-3? checked.

Having a team and squad that can actually compete? checked.

Having players that other big clubs are eyeing instead of players that will join a Championship side after leaving us? checked.

Being linked with quality players with ambitions? checked.

Dishing out football that people enjoy and not having fans leave at the 80th min after conceding because it all feels hopeless? checked.

And there's so much more.

I hope we win a few trophies this year, I really do. But what more do people want at this stage other than to be in the mix in the title race and to stay in the other competitions and hopefully be in the finals?

{Ed001's Note - again I agree with you.}


 

 

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06 Nov 2018 01:51:21
i've never understood friendlies or now the UEFA Nations League (as if a name change will really change anything meaningfully) .

friendlies happen in the middle of the season, where players are in their peak conditions, so why do they need these matches? they'll play together for 1 - 2 matches to get 'acquainted' then it'll be weeks or months before the next time they play together again, so what effect can there be? and that is not including injuries, loss of form that might mean the squad is different the next time round. just stick to getting together for training then competitive matches that actually mean something. wouldn't that be better for the fans, TV, players, clubs?

The only time i see friendlies as essential are when one is playing for charity, testimonial, or a couple of warm up matches before major competitions (the real deal, not friendlies spread across 2 years before the tournament itself), the rest are quite pointless.

{Ed001's Note - spot on mate.}