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10 Sep 2016 22:49:30
Somebody on here earlier said they felt a tonking of Leicester today (was 4-1 mentioned? ) . Who was it as you need to do predictions more often!
10 Sep 2016 23:56:00
I said 6-1, was only joking but it could have been.
10 Sep 2016 22:43:27
bit quiet tonight eh? its amazing how 4 goals against the champs can make you forget we need a lb and a dm. NEXT.
11 Sep 2016 02:59:14
the negative brigade will still come out with something e. g georginio wijnaldum.
10 Sep 2016 22:11:57
Klopp is making almost the same proto type of dortmund.
If i can see, the midfielders are just running engines. hendo, lallana, gini. backed up by quality in attack. he stick with milner because he has good eye for pass and another guy who can around consistently.
This is not a balanced setup. but its clear we need to outscore opposition. 2 goalscoring midfielders running to box helped by 3 attackers, even if we let in 2, we should score many.
Once we loss simple chance just like against spurs, we won't get benefit with this system
Only worry for me is mane is the difference maker with extra pace and quality.
Hopefully klopp picks origi when mane not in team.
11 Sep 2016 10:17:40
Klopp played a 4-2-3-1 while at Dortmund for the majority of the time and I certainly wouldn't consider someone like Gundogan a running machine.
10 Sep 2016 22:37:26
Stamford Bridge Friday night, what do we reckon lads.
10 Sep 2016 23:35:24
Wear a stab vest?
10 Sep 2016 23:50:16
3 points, lots of goals 😎.
11 Sep 2016 00:57:01
Hannibal lector mask?
10 Sep 2016 22:33:13
A great performance against a very well organised team who were deserved winners of the league last year. The movement and creativity off the ball today caused Leicesters midfield and defence all sorts of problems. Wijalndum has his critics but he played a major part today. He looked sharper and his movement off the ball allowed the excellent Lallana to move across the line in front of the back four, linking in the full backs, midfield and forwards. Henderson was superb and if you watch what he does off the ball you can see his commitment to the team. He never hides, always making himself available for the ball. He was the same against Spurs. Firmino had his best game for Liverpool, pure class. Matip is one hell of a signing, what we have been missing, strong in the air and we don't seem to be getting bullied at corners and set pieces at the moment. Apart from when Migs gets involved when he should steer clear. Mane has been exceptional. Thought Sturridge worked well for the team today and a great piece of skill for Manes goal. All in all we made the champions look ordinary today with pace, movement off the ball, moving the ball forwards quickly rather than too many passes across the lines with no penetration. Teamwork brilliant and a superb crowd. Well done boys, carry this forward.
10 Sep 2016 22:22:34
Have to say the Main Stand looks very impressive and the noise inside the ground to day was fantastic at times today.
Outside of the Lucas error ( I sit behind the goal on the Kop so it was a prime view - horrendous ) I thought we looked really good on the ball during certain periods of the game.
The other pleasing aspect was we had options on the bench in Coutinho and Origi, with Can to return along with Lovren.
Next up Chelsea away, tough but we should travel to the capital with confidence. I always look toward to Chelsea away, a few cheeky beers in the White Horse on Parson's Green. 😎.
11 Sep 2016 00:18:15
You're a fan of the sloany pony then Nick?
11 Sep 2016 07:25:32
I am Muscat, our London office is in Peterborough Road, just across the Green! The beer is cracking in there mate - if you like real ales! Plus a great selection of lagers.
10 Sep 2016 22:21:42
quality game today was a beast being in the new main stand (even tho I was in the gods) a special shot out to Adam lallana frm me today. he may do 100 too many cruyff turns pirouette in dangerous areas but the amount of runs he made off the ball that didn't get picked our today was unbelievable. not sure if anyone else at the game or who watched it on TV today seen. mane firmino and matip where spectacular too btw.
11 Sep 2016 02:19:37
Ye Lallana made good effort to be incisive with his runs. In fact all of them. They need to be in that mindset every match, hope it continues! Must say tho, leicester gave us plenty of space to operate, can't wait to see us take on a bus! The way we played today is perfect to destroy that friggin bus!
10 Sep 2016 22:19:23
great start to the season for adam lallana, also that front 3 of sturridge, mane and firmino will cause any teams problems, I would play all 3 vs Chelsea as we need to play to our strengths, they will be our biggest test of our season so far, Leicester's biggest loss was kante, which has been Chelsea's gain our midfield needs to be right for this game, which is why I think the front 3 will be so important, all 3 can give david luiz nightmares with there pace and movement, in the meantime I shall enjoy work next week after being given a hard time by the Leicester fans prior to the match.
10 Sep 2016 21:48:13
Eds or anyone in the know; has Klopp instructed the team to play out from goal kicks etc. Just seems like sometimes it's obviously not appropriate but we continue to do it? Not saying it's a poor idea full stop - but surely it needs to be managed better. I'd like to see Hendo (as skipper) telling Migs to ease up. Proper game management and leadership.
{Ed001's Note - yes, it is the way Klopp wants to play.}
10 Sep 2016 21:59:55
Yes it happened few times today when someone should take initiative and say 'not this time'
10 Sep 2016 22:09:36
Cost us a goal at Burnley and another today. Other times it made me nervous as we ended up looking unnecessarily vulnerable. Got to be addressed in my opinion.
11 Sep 2016 00:59:23
Why should Hendo say anything - Mignolet is potentially the only Liverpool player who can see everything in font of him - he needs to stop being robotic and make his own decisions.
10 Sep 2016 21:26:19
I just dropped my Royal biriyahni and butter chicken on the floor.
But do I care?
Spaghetti bog in the microwave, bottle of german Pinot noir (sainsburys, £7 a bottleVERY good by the way) and 3 points in the bag against the champions after going to arsenal and Spurs . curry would be nice though.
10 Sep 2016 21:20:44
Something strange I saw today, the second half at I think 3-1 the Kop starting singing JURGEN KLOPP NA NA NA NA NA and Klopp went nuts running towards the Kop when the play was in our half, Anny road end, it looked like he was unhappy at the song but I can't see why that would be, maybe I misread what he done and he was joining in with the Kop? Anyone see what happened?
10 Sep 2016 21:34:42
think he said don't sing his name before the game is decided. he probably wants the crowd to cheer for the players and not him, bt i may be wrong.
10 Sep 2016 21:55:51
Following on from my earlier post, just reading the Echo and KLOPP did kick off when the Kop sang his name, he doesn't like it and doesn't want his name singing during games/ before games are won, I think it's s bit strange that, so is it ok to ding players names during games? Don't know what to make of that at all.
10 Sep 2016 22:01:15
Interesting. Like to know what was going on there.
10 Sep 2016 22:02:52
Not sure what's to understand. He doesn't want to be congratulated until the final whistle just in case. Makes sense to me.
10 Sep 2016 22:13:56
Think it's after he celebrated forth goal against Arsenal and he felt it was premature.
10 Sep 2016 22:22:19
It what's the fans to sing the players names he does not like the spotlight.
11 Sep 2016 00:12:50
So mightyreds007, did you see Klopps reaction to the Kop singing his name? I did and it was a very strange reaction whatever the thought behind it, ( which he has now explained ), he was very angry towards the Kop, maybe he should have said something after the Arsenal game or before today and let the fans know he doesn't want them to sing his name during the game. I am a big big fan of KLOPP but I think he made a Rick today the way he went about it.
11 Sep 2016 00:20:40
Reus, yes KLOPP doesn't like the spotlight, he is very shy and reserved isn't he!
11 Sep 2016 00:29:00
It's going to be very difficult for us fans to see such an enthusiastic and dramatic manager getting involved in not only the game but with us the fans and then not sing his name. How manyvtimesxsince he arrived has KLOPP engaged with the crowd and ramped up the atmosphere and now he doesn't want us to reciprocate.
11 Sep 2016 02:25:33
He explained it. What more do you need him to say? Please? And maybe he didn't think of it til the time, who knows? So its one less song to sing, or one more thing to get ya knickers in a twist about. I reks just sing a different song!
11 Sep 2016 02:33:31
I did see his reaction 18and5.
At 2-1 we are/ were a team with a touch of bi-polar. He's our Dr and he will make us better. Dr Klopp doesn't want or need the applaudites just yet.
So what if the Dr gets a little excited. We'll sing for the win and then congratulate the Dr afterwards.
10 Sep 2016 20:48:55
Early days but Sadio Mane has simply been a revelation so far. Before he signed the majority of us were against the signing due to attitude or consistency concerns but boy has he proven us wrong, in fact he's been one of our most dangerous players in all games played so far, maybe he needed the move to a top club to give him become more consistent. With all the talk of genetically enhanced athletes flying around, Mane is the perfect winger, lightening quick, strong as an ox, great dribbler, skillful, good final ball and now seems to have found some consistency, also didn't go missing in any big game (Spurs, Leicester and Arsenal) . Long may it continue.
10 Sep 2016 22:07:00
2 goals and 3 assists in 4 games so far Sadio Mane. An excellent start to his LFC career.
10 Sep 2016 22:59:50
He is our most important player comfortable 😩.
10 Sep 2016 20:45:33
Early days but Matip could be our best bargain signing since Hyypia. He's been a revelation so far and has instantly made our defence more solid. His reading of the game and willingness to play out from the back, even if the passes aren't always accurate is refreshing to see. He also seems to have a lot of strength and a large build as well as being a giant, which will help when dealing with the bigger and stronger strikers in the league.
10 Sep 2016 20:33:31
Apart from the mistake Lucas was absolute quality today and helped nullify the threat of Vardy and Mahrez. Despite his legs having gone, Lucas' positioning and reading of the game is still top notch and he definitely has a future at centre back in the short term.
10 Sep 2016 22:32:33
Sorry mate this was too big a mistake for any sentence starting with 'apart from the mistake'. Not his place in my view.
11 Sep 2016 00:08:28
Fano it's a post on a banter page not an English essay.
11 Sep 2016 02:26:47
Mistakes only fool idiots. Everyone makes em, big and small. This was a big one! But he otherwise was immense.
10 Sep 2016 20:29:49
Well, I thought matip was f###king excellent
Positional sense of a resavior dam.
10 Sep 2016 20:36:25
Couldn't agree more Bod, his distribution from the back was class as well. Will be one of the signings of the season.
10 Sep 2016 20:53:36
I actually thought him and Lucas were solid today as a partnership. Lucas made a horrific error that wasn't helped by Mignolet, but on the whole we pretty much nullified one of the best attacks in the league. They are also both very comfortable on the ball and look to pass it forward which made us much more dangerous.
We were literally 'Mignolet kicking it into touch' or 'Lucas taking a better touch' away from a perfect performance.
I simply cannot be negative after thrashing the champions 4-1! How can anyone be?!
10 Sep 2016 21:12:37
I knew we were getting a steal when we signed him. Great defender and his calm and composure under pressure is almost inborn and uncanny. Great signing by Klopp.
10 Sep 2016 20:19:54
I know it's only 4 games but still didn't quite know what Gini brings to the team. Hopefully he will come good in the end. I have faith in Klopp's judgment. overall a GREAT GREAT win. could and should score more than 4 goals. top it off with Man utd losing. best combo.
10 Sep 2016 20:31:50
No. he played well. intelligent player, the managers man.
10 Sep 2016 20:33:09
He has already created 2 goals in 4 games, from a completely unfamiliar role at this level.
He needs to improve his defensive work, but for me he is taking far too much criticism. As is Lallana who has now got 2 goals from 4 games, also from a new role.
Whatever way you look at our start to this season we have no played last seasons top 3 and dropped just 2 points against them. Barring one complete off-day vs Burnley we have started exceptionally well!
10 Sep 2016 20:34:53
I would rather we played Stewart in centre midfield as he gives us more steel. Thought Milner had a good game and looked competent, Matip was immense, Lucas played well (not going to mention the goal as it was a hospital pass from the keeper), Sturridge led the line well and Mane and Firmino were unplayable. And the new stand looks amazing. Lots of positives but still the same niggle in midfield. Plus Man United got beaten too so good day all round.
10 Sep 2016 20:37:16
Gini has 2 assists in 4 matches. That being said, I do agree that he doesn't exactly stamp his authority over games.
I'll tell you who he reminds me of: Maxi Rodriguez, especially in his last 18 months here. Barely see him in general play, but then he pops up around the box with a goal or an assist. His goals for Newcastle (nearly all from arriving late in the box) + anything I've heard from Newcastle fans about him seem to back that impression up. Of course Maxi had a good goals/ games ratio for a midfielder in that period, whilst Gini is yet to register for the club.
Personally, it's not a style of player I'd have in my team, but if he can start producing the final product as he settles in, then I'll be quite happy. And I definitely think the tactical set-up Klopp has come up with to utilise him and Lallana in central midfield is working.
10 Sep 2016 21:03:05
He made some good runs today and the ball wasn't delivered to him. He was better today. Still learning his role in the team, let's be patient!
10 Sep 2016 22:28:14
What he gives is a composure with the ball, an attacking threat from midfield, something we missed last year. Yes he hasn't been perfect, but playing midfield in the Premier League is difficult. On more than one occasion he kept his head in the box to provide an assist, unlike other midfielders we have had like Allen, Lucas and even Henderson who lack composure further up the field.
He can take the ball from midfield and drive forward, and I would prefer him making run into the box than Henderson or Can. He has pace, and he is comfortable receiving the ball, he has a good range of passing and plays with his head up. From last year we know he can score goals, and the position he keeps getting into, it won't be long before he scores his first goal.
He has also done his work defensively, especially today where I noticed a few key interceptions and good defensive headers. With his play I see an intelligence and understanding of the game which is important.
It is still too early to judge him, but given the good list of attributes he possesses I think he can be a good player for us.
11 Sep 2016 00:15:31
Gini was excellent today.
10 Sep 2016 23:39:00
You must be watching a different game to me. I thought he was really effective today, generally tidy on the ball always looking to break the lines and pull their defenders about. We haven't had a midfielder for ages who wants to go beyond the strikers.
11 Sep 2016 02:28:39
Gini can be a great player for us. Links play, one touch passes etc and those runs into the box can be deadly. He'll bag a few goals his year then suddenly people will see what he brings.
11 Sep 2016 03:16:42
Gini took the candies from frankly georginio wijnaldum has his best game for liverpool and he is improving every game and frankly still won't leave him alone.
10 Sep 2016 20:19:50
Hamilton red, Fanoblip - we won't be thumping Leicester? I think we let them off lightly.
10 Sep 2016 21:14:52
Lol! Sunshine, I thought of you after the game. Nice one, mate. You're right that we let them off the hook because we should have put ten on them and that wouldn't have been a fluke as we ripped them to bits. Good call before the game tho, my friend.
10 Sep 2016 22:42:11
Fair play. I didn't see it coming. I have to say though without taking anything from our brilliant performance that Leicester were poor. Last year they were so tough to break. Today we cut through them like they were air. Make their miracle season last year even more amazing.
11 Sep 2016 00:00:21
I'm not in any way being smug fella's. I just think we've played some good stuff for little reward at times. Should've beat spurs who are a good side too. I don't know how far we can go this season but I reckon we can push for top 4 in real way. The Europa and champions league tiredness thing will kick in for our rivals and help us a great deal. They midweek European games can make a Sunday fixture away to anyone in the league a tough task. Having said all that, I'm still concerned that we have a shocker in us now and again! Ha ha. Cheers lads - great times ahead for reds I think.
10 Sep 2016 20:16:49
Who said "there's no way we will thrash Leicester"? Well done, you really know your stuff. We played some excellent football, but I really can't praise milner enough today, he was fantastic ( maybe the manager does know what he's doing hey! ) Really liked matip also, big Al, you were spot on about mane total waste of money 😒.
10 Sep 2016 20:43:16
To be fair, the form book was completely against a thrashing. This is the first time Leicester have been beaten by a 3 goal margin since September 26th 2015! That game where they lost 5-2 against Arsenal was incidentally the last time they conceded more than 2 goals in a single game.
But yeah, never doubt Liverpool FC ;)
10 Sep 2016 20:47:03
Now now waro, let's be gracious in victory. 😁.
10 Sep 2016 21:01:32
Waro
Don't twist words. I said we paid a lot of money and his attitude was questionable. Also questioned why we were paying soo much for him when we needed a left back and defensive midfielder I never questioned his ability but applauded it.
Maybe you should use the search engine on that one.
He's turned out a great buy and great player for us. if me questioning the buy and price was unfair then I'll take that .
I think you confused mane with Wijnaldum concerning my opinion and waste of money. Still failing to see what he offers on the pitch.
10 Sep 2016 21:11:02
Yes Milner done well Waro, Mane gives us that extra dimension, PACE, as soon as he went after the ball for the 4th you just knew he could beat Smeichel to the ball, great first and second touch and ball to Firmino who took it well, Firmino played well today, I must admit I did worfy we paid a hefty price for him (according to Ed02 he could end up our record fee with add ons) and although you can see his quality let's just say I think we paid top dollar. Sturridge showed class at times today, what an assist for Mane goal, pure class. Thought Matip done very well but will wait until tougher tests to judge him. Great goal Lallana, sweet strike.
{Ed001's Note - I love watching Firmino play.}
10 Sep 2016 21:18:26
Waro, I confess that I didn't think we would thump them but we did and I'm ecstatic . Milner was solid again today but he got a lot of help from Wiji, Lallana and Hendo at different times which was good coaching from Klopp. I knew we had a good one when we got Matip as I've seen him play multiple times with Schalke and at the WC with Cameroon. Mane a waste of money? Whoever said that should behave.
10 Sep 2016 21:49:52
Got to echo Waro's sentiments. Milner was very good at left back. It could easily have been 8 today, we had so many chances. Matip is a proper defender. Mané is a constant threat.
Also want to give praise to Adam Lallana because that was a thumping finish today and that's 2 goals this week. It's not too late for him at LFC and if he adds goals and assists he will be some player.
No excuses today for Klopp 😉.
10 Sep 2016 21:49:40
Everyone said that people struggled to see what Joe Allen brought to the pitch but you all just about cried when he left. Some teams need them kinds of players for balance.
10 Sep 2016 20:03:18
Roberto Firmino is a quality player who at times leave you dumbfounded as he pulls off ridiculous tricks such as that roulette nutmeg. His best attributes are his finishing, work rate, movement and creativity and I feel playing in the false nine role wastes his movement and creativity. As well as this, Firmino also has a rasping long range shot and hits the target 9 times out of 10 from distance, usually scoring or stinging the keeper's palms - when he hits them they stay hit. Playing out wide left with Coutinho in centre mid would allow for more long shots too and give him the number of attempts Coutinho takes from distance and Firmino would score at least triple the amount of goals. Plus it would make room for Sturridge or Origi in the side. Firmino having more freedom and space would only be for the betterment of the team as he showed today, playing off the left and destroying Leicester's defence.
10 Sep 2016 20:16:40
Think he looks better when he's got room in the middle to work. Coutinho can sort of crowd him sometimes. got to find a way to get them both on the pitch.
10 Sep 2016 21:22:40
I think we're a better team without coutinho starting.
Sturridge made great runs creating space for Mane llana etc.
Mingolet still is no use with his feet and draws trouble on the defence.
I feel sorry for Lucas as he done really well otherwise.
10 Sep 2016 19:57:52
Very good performance, very good result, great four goals. There are still a lot of things to work on. I still think we can and should be even more clinical, and us playing from the back makes me nervous every time we have the ball in our half. Not a criticism, actually a reason for optimism if we have still a lot to work on and we come out from the game with 4:1.
Just one personal request to Klopp - don't start Sturridge on the bench next game. I know he didn't score today and should have twice, but he still gets to these positions and will surely score them next time. He also gave a fantastic assist to Firmino's first and great pass to Wijdn' who assisted Lallana. And Firmino and mane gets much more freedom when he is on the pitch.
I admit I was one of the Lallana on the bench guys because everything he did until this week was so non clinical but the clinical penny has dropped somehow.
10 Sep 2016 21:22:47
Studge actually played the way Klopp wants and was pressing and moving them around very effectively. He didn't have to drop deep to pick up the ball. I've always said that if Studge plays the way Klopp wants, he will start because he, Firmino and Mane looked a mighty tasty trio today.
10 Sep 2016 19:48:45
What a great day.
We won. Manchester United did not. There should be more days like this.
Be happy, gentlemen. Celebrate.
10 Sep 2016 19:36:52
Some fantastic performances today but can we all find time to praise hendo.
He was quietly quite brilliant in that deeper role today.
10 Sep 2016 19:57:33
Agree wholeheartedly. He looked very tidy against Spurs and again today. No reason why he won't make that role his own.
10 Sep 2016 20:03:04
How about Lucas for the no-look back pass?
10 Sep 2016 20:15:18
He looked great at times today. Very solid and back to his best.
Long may it continue.
10 Sep 2016 20:18:35
Hendo played some great balls, for mane for the last and sturridge for manes first, he's important to us.
10 Sep 2016 21:23:44
Hendo was simply top class. Nothing else to add.
10 Sep 2016 23:45:49
Not here to be a negative Nelly. Just being constructive. I thought Henderson was pretty awful in the deeper role. I was frustrated as hell watching him. He seems utterly unable to receive the ball and turn in one movement. This was a key cause of our inability to play the ball out from the back. He picks up poor positions to receive the ball and this puts pressure on all our defensive players. Lovely pass from deep for the goal, but it's the simple things that he's bad at. He has poor positional sense there and poor anticipation. No idea when to sit or press, or what positions to take up. Leaves us wide open at times.
He is our weakest link in that role. Disrupts the flow. The game was 'touch and go' with him there. Panicked and manic.
I don't think Hendo is a bad player though. Not at all. Just playing out of position. When Stewart came on to play DM, Hendo was much better. More influential and positive with his passing and advancing with the ball - making good runs (shame about the finish) and having freedom to press the opposition in higher areas. That's the real Henderson imo. He should be competing with Wijnaldum for the LCM position. I hope the penny drops with Klopp regarding this. Perhaps it already has?
The mistake aside. Lucas was immense. What a leader. What a man. Winning the header against the man-mountain Huth, whilst getting elbowed in the head. Warrior. Brilliant positioning, won everything in the air. Read the game superbly. Cut out so many passes. Matched Vardy's pace with his experience. Love that guy. As Jurgen said, "Luke was brilliant. "
Matip great again too. As were a lot of others. A lot of positives. Good stuff overall, but work still to be done.
10 Sep 2016 19:33:59
Ed01 match review please?
{Ed001's Note - I think it can be summed up very well simply by saying a very good team performance. Ok two big mistakes caused the Leicester goal, there were a few misplaced passes, but the movement and workrate was excellent. We made them look like a pub team and absolutely tore them apart.
One more thing, I have to say Milner did particularly well at left back.}
10 Sep 2016 20:10:52
Agree about Milner. My MOTM for keeping last seasons PL player of the year in his pocket, even though they targeted out left side. When was Mahrez this invisible?
10 Sep 2016 20:12:13
yeah milner didn't do anything fancy but showed moreno how it should be done. head and shoulders above clyne who has nothing to his game apparently when on the ball. My brain hurts watching him. Wished we gave someone like flano a chance.
10 Sep 2016 20:28:35
It shouldn't have been a goal as the Leicester player clearly encroaches the box before the ball leaves the area. A clear schoolboy error from the officials.
10 Sep 2016 20:38:50
top performance's today from sturridge, mane, firmino, hendo and lallana, topped of by james "millie" milner credit where its due I thought he was terrific, may I also say lucas did not let his error affect his 2nd half display he showed great maturity but let's be honest he has overcome bigger challenges in his Liverpool career, matip looks like he has played for us all his life, a shrewd signing, let's hope this is the first of many home wins.
10 Sep 2016 21:20:36
I thought Hendo was immense today, mopped up, and was over the pitch, the ball seemed to be just drawn to him, played some really decisive balls forward too, my MOTM.
10 Sep 2016 21:26:02
Spot on, Ed. If someone told you that team won the PL and the other team came 8th, you would rub your eyes and not believe it as Ed said, LC looked like a pub team completely out of its depth.
10 Sep 2016 19:29:24
Firmino and Mane were great today but for me the Man of the Match would go to either Matip or Milner. Both played their role with calm and precision. Matip is looking like a bargain whereas Milner looks more at home in the left-back than anyone has for a few seasons.
10 Sep 2016 19:43:48
I'm usually the first to criticize but mignolet was really good today. He doesn't stop that vardy attempt at 3-1 and we are probably in for a very nervy finish.
10 Sep 2016 19:50:02
Mignolet bleed Liverpool. Give him some credit.
10 Sep 2016 20:11:57
Matip looked like a £40 m defender. Majestic!
10 Sep 2016 20:22:40
his decision making is still awfull, he should have never put lucas in that position, he would rather punch instead of catching the ball, yes he made a good save but I have to agree with Michael owen in regards to vardy always trying to blast the ball home, I have seen nothing regarding mignolet that does not make me pleased we have signed a new goalkeeper.
10 Sep 2016 21:04:54
Lucas's error was his fault and his alone. Blaming migs for that is just ludicrous.
{Ed001's Note - no, the initial error was in playing that ball when Leicester were looking to close it down. Lucas was clearly expecting Migs to do exactly what he did every other time and wait until they all moved forward. Migs made a bad error, that was then compounded by a terrible touch by Lucas and made even worse when Lucas lunged in to attempt to correct his poor touch by just kicking it clear. But the initial error was Migs, he should never have played the pass. The job now is for him to learn from it and wait for the team to push out if the opposition are closing off the short kick out.}
10 Sep 2016 21:27:09
Majest Matip. Hmm, I like the sound of that.
10 Sep 2016 18:05:59
I must say, the new stand looks awesome. Even better with a 2 - nil lead!
10 Sep 2016 21:29:32
It was kind of weird watching the game on TV from much higher than before.
10 Sep 2016 18:49:50
. and a fantastic save by Mignolet.
10 Sep 2016 18:24:31
When the opposition can't score so you gift them a goal #justliverpoolthings.
10 Sep 2016 18:42:43
It should not have been a goal.
10 Sep 2016 20:11:55
Great result.
10 Sep 2016 18:20:02
Get Lallana and Wynaldum off, useless, and as for bleedin Lucas he should never be anywhere near the ground.
10 Sep 2016 18:24:25
Fan of the year award.
10 Sep 2016 18:25:39
Are we not winning 2-1 against the defending Champions having restricted them to just 1 shot on target? 2 if you include the header off the bar. We are dominating possession, making their keeper work far more than ours, but the problem yet again is our keeper who hasn't made a single save!
10 Sep 2016 18:28:34
Behave.
10 Sep 2016 18:33:58
Over-reaction of the year award.
10 Sep 2016 18:36:24
MK - how was Mignolet supposed to cope with Lucas's howler?
{Ed001's Note - by not passing it to him in the first place, which was the first howler. Two big mistakes.}
10 Sep 2016 18:38:17
Just to clarify, I'm not exclusively blaming Mignolet for that goal. Lucas was pressured into making a mistake though and in those situations you need a keeper to react and bail you out of trouble. It's no fault of Mignolets, but top keepers occassionally do special things.
10 Sep 2016 18:44:16
You were saying Alan? 🙄.
10 Sep 2016 18:56:52
And as if we needed if, you are instantly proven to be nothing more than a boo boy as Lallana scores a goal created by Wijnaldum and Liverpool become the first team to put 3 league goals past Leicester in about a year!
10 Sep 2016 19:24:15
What was the score in the end "fan of the year"
10 Sep 2016 19:31:47
And I bet alan50 jumped when lallana scored should using "well done adam" as he fit pumped the air!
10 Sep 2016 19:52:20
Great goal by Lallana, but that's all he done, Wijnaldum done nothing, even Mane had a quiet game by his standards.
10 Sep 2016 20:06:52
Yeah, useless player doing nothing but scoring a great goal. Just as well we don't have more players that score great goals, we'd be in serious trouble then.
Alan, you shot your mouth off way too early. Just accept you messed up and don't try to stand over your knee-jerking. It's not like anyone will remember in 3 days time.
10 Sep 2016 20:07:52
Watching football must be a really horrible experience for you. Maybe you should just give up?
10 Sep 2016 20:09:21
You didn't watch the game then lad, whole team played well as for Mane pure quality.
10 Sep 2016 21:32:26
Alan, you just embarrassed yourself for the world to see. You will never be taken seriously again after that pathetic r.
10 Sep 2016 16:37:32
Wow, Lucas centre back and Coutinho on bench! Off to ground now.
YNWA.
10 Sep 2016 18:13:00
I think Lucas just showed how comfortable he is at CB. Vardy getting an early xmas gift.
10 Sep 2016 19:33:09
Need to accept the fact that we will make mistakes this season.
10 Sep 2016 18:13:00
I think Lucas just showed how comfortable he is at CB. Vardy getting an early xmas gift.
10 Sep 2016 16:35:24
Coutinho on the bench after the internationals, not really a surprise, but the team looks strong.
I'm not sure of klavan isn't 100% but interesting to see Lucas over him if he is fit.
Would like to see coutinho come in for wijnaldum and play the cm role, think that could a strong side, maybe with can in too. Karius on the bench too, hopefully see him between the sticks soon!
10 Sep 2016 17:37:23
Offensively we look good, but we could lose this one in midfield. Is basically Hendo by himself!
10 Sep 2016 19:43:04
I must admit Hendo did the job!
Lucas played well except for moment of madness. I saw more long, defence splitting passes from Lucas as CB than I saw as a midfielder.
Winaldjum not necessarily weak link, but I wonder if we would be more balanced with Grujic and Hendo pairing until Can returns, and Winaldjum perhaps needing more time to develop into the team.
10 Sep 2016 16:01:57
Hope we win on my birthday today! mum booked me dinner with the mrs for 6pm which I obviously had to change 😉.
10 Sep 2016 16:31:05
We will win today mate, happy birthday 😎.
10 Sep 2016 16:36:35
Happy Birthday ST.
10 Sep 2016 16:37:42
Happy birthday square tomato enjoy .
10 Sep 2016 16:55:57
Happy Birthday ST.
10 Sep 2016 17:12:42
Penblwydd Hapus Square Tom! 🎂.
10 Sep 2016 19:19:05
Thanks guys!
10 Sep 2016 19:49:34
Happy birthday.
10 Sep 2016
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10 Sep 2016 14:28:29
Watched the Manchester derby. Entertaining. Both sides beatablE. united have a brilliant keeper in de gea and city have an incredible dodgy one at their disposal. City will get beaten this season no doubt.
Hopefully a win for us today because we really should be closing in on the Manchester teams Especially united. We have the quailty. Defensively need to be a lot moreover solid.
10 Sep 2016 14:52:00
I was a bit surprised at how poor bravo was at doing the exact thing he was brought in for. He was doing his level best to let them back into the game.
10 Sep 2016 21:36:42
Hart is a dodgy GK. But the "philosopher" as Zlatan calls him, actually succeeded in bringing in and even worse GK than him. Genius, my foot.
{Ed001's Note - I think you are all judging Bravo far too early, he has been excellent in the past.}
10 Sep 2016 11:53:32
Huge day if you are a sports fan, first the old firm derby, Celtic vs Rangers. Shortly followed by the Manchester derby, shortly followed by Liverpool vs Leicester, shortly followed by the kell brook vs GGG fight, shortly followed by ufc 203. I feel sorry for anyone tied down to any arrangements.
10 Sep 2016 14:40:36
Well not a bad start so far.
10 Sep 2016 09:28:14
Morning Eds, I hope this finds you well.
The club is making good progress in terms of commercial and infrastructure elements, but I'm concerned that there seems to be very little positive, progressive or strategic thinking in terms of our transfers - the left back debacle when spending £25m on GW being a recent prime example. No doubt there are people at the club far more intelligent than me so I struggle to get my head around how we can be so backward whilst trying to go forward.
Apart from the huge issues in the way we've gone about our business - pissing people off left right and center - I'd be grateful for your take on our transfer 'strategy', or maybe rather lack of it, and is it something recognised at the club as being an issue going forward.
{Ed002's Note - There was never going to be vast amounts spent this summer and everyone needs to remember that previous overspending and the significant debt all impacted the financial situation. However, the club are well based to move foward but the results need to reflect the commercial success. As for "policy" I am not so sure that it works like that. Many folks have harped on about FSG imposing restrictions on age, trying to use baseball style metrics etc., but it really isn't like that. Klipperty and his kronies identified players they wanted and followed due process with the transfer committee to bring players in. Nothing happened with Chilwell of course and Klipperty has made it clear that he is happy with Morino and Milner at left back - if that goes horribly wrong then he has to be accountable. The big buy (marquee if you like) came in the form of Mane at a decent price. He has also acted to resolve, at least in his view, the defensive issues. The purchase on Wijnaldum, at what I would see as a high price, was an odd choice in my view.}
10 Sep 2016 09:51:04
It's going to take time in my opinion.
I've no problem with any of the signings. Klopp is a new manager who is assembling his squad. I think we can give him a little grace period, he hasn't had a full season yet.
{Ed002's Note - He missed a few games at the start of last season - he has had plenty of time. You need to stop looking for these feeble excuses.}
10 Sep 2016 10:04:18
I agree ron, just under a season and bringing in a handful of new players is no time to judge klopp, it's far to early for that. I didn't want Rodgers (thought it was an awful appointment) but I felt it right that he was given a couple of transfer windows and seasons before I could rate him. Klopp will be just fine, steady progression then he'll get us to were we want to be.
10 Sep 2016 10:10:50
Thanks Ed, appreciate the reply.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
10 Sep 2016 10:31:41
I'm not trying to "excuse" anything ed002.
I'm quite happy with our progress. 🙂.
{Ed002's Note - I find it strange that coaches and managers come and go at other clubs, but Liverpool always need a couple of years of transition each time they change - whislt others just get on with it.}
10 Sep 2016 10:57:14
I have to disagree Ed002. Klopp didn't inherit a good team/ squad due to a long history of mistakes and mismanagement. Therefore it was always going to take some time for him to achieve some success. However, he has now had the opportunity to mould his own team and should be held fully accountable for results this season. However, I do worry that he made the wrong call in not bringing in a left back but hope to be proved wrong.
{Ed002's Note - Another excuse - you see the trend? Not long enough...., team not good enough...., need more transfer windows and a longer transition.}
10 Sep 2016 11:35:01
GW and leftback seem to be the bone of contention and like Ron, I am willing to trust the coach. I read an article this morning about weeding out to make room for the youngsters. This to me is a strategy.
{Ed002's Note - Klipperty moved a lot of the Liverpool youngsters on - Ibe and Smith were sold, Markovic and Wisdom loaned because a buyer couldn't be found, Yesil released at the end of his contract, Flanagan and Ward loaned. Klearly Klopp he doesn't like the youngsters at the club.}
10 Sep 2016 11:42:49
I agree with ed002 and in normal circunstances i would be happy if we made steady progression, say top 5 and a trophy but this season with no european football i think is the perfect chance to get into the top 4.
{Ed002's Note - I struggle to be convinced that there is any benefit to not being in Europe in respect of the league. With perhaps only a couple of exceptions the Premier League will have been won by a team playing in Europe. Someone might wish to figure out how many times top four positions have been occupied by teams not playing in one European competition or another. I suspect that folks liking for "statistics" will actually get a kick in the shins with it likely being "harder" to get in to the four }
10 Sep 2016 11:44:46
I disagree, i think this season is exactly the time to judge Klopp. Two transfer windows with millions spent, no euro football, plus time to implement his philosophy and get used to a new league and culture. If Klopps team doesn't produce this season, i don't know what excuses are going to be relevant.
IMO we are about to find out if Klopp is as good as we all hope he is.
10 Sep 2016 11:49:22
To be fair, klopp had 50+ games last season which is a full season no matter how you put it. The real excuse is that he had that season without his own preseason and summer transfers that weren't his targets. Now he has had that, so progression is simply the least we expect now. He has definitely made mistakes but he has also improved us on the pitch offensively. This season will certainly set the tone, no one should jump to any conclusions yet, it is far too early, but again he shouldn't be able to evade criticism just because of his name or personality.
10 Sep 2016 12:08:54
But Ed, statistically, three out of the top four teams have not won the Premier League in every season. It seems to be a reoccurring pattern.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, but they still qualify for the Champiopns League whilst Liverpool don't.}
10 Sep 2016 12:21:41
That is a fair point ed002.
10 Sep 2016 13:37:56
Who did he buy in the first of the two transfer windows your talking about annie? Can't let facts get in the way of a good moan can we girl!
10 Sep 2016 13:25:08
I support Klopp fully, but Ed002 is bang on the money, even Klopp has acknowledged that this is his squad and that he's had ample time (eg preseason training, transfer windows) . I believe that Klopp will help us achieve what we all want, but there can be no excuses now if he fails to do so.
10 Sep 2016 15:13:26
Klopp took us to two cup finals last year. Yes we lost em both maybe he is crap? The squad not being good enough I put down to us not finishing higher up the league. This season is 3 games old I haven't heard him make any excuses he has made no promises other than we will try our hardest see where it gets us? I'm happy with Jurgen he may turn out to be the wrong man but he IS the right man at present. End of the season judge him/ us lot of you going to be choking on your words.
10 Sep 2016 15:20:47
KMan - you are not being "fair"
"50+ games" does not make a full season. A full season means you play a full league fixture list - basic stuff.
10 Sep 2016 15:42:37
You would have to agree that 50+ games should be enough to get the team playing how you want and sort any issues Ron? Not to mention a pre season? This is his team, his words. No excuses.
{Ed001's Note - I don't care if they are his words, no manager should be judged on one season or Roberto Martinez would be a top class manager. It is stupidity to suggest this is his team, because it is not. Until he has had a few seasons to get rid of the dross left by Bodgers, it is not his team. How any Liverpool fan can suggest otherwise is beyond me. Do you not remember what a mess Klopp inherited? Just get behind Klopp for the season.}
10 Sep 2016 14:52:34
Klopp agrees with you Ed. ""Certainly at the moment we shouldn't look for excuses and say things like 'I need another year' or things like that
"We will try everything 100 per cent and see what happens. We built this team only to be successful, not one where we say we will have to wait. "
source: Skysports, 30/ 07/ 16.
10 Sep 2016 16:22:05
But its not Liverpool fans ed001. If it stupidity then it lays on Klopps shoulders. I didn't say it, Klopp did. Also this is not Klopps first season for me. As for the dross, i agree to a certain extent but i can only see Clyne, Moreno and Lallana from the team maybe not being good enough, although Klopp seems to like Lallana when he could quite easily bench him for someone else. I am behind Klopp but i don't think i should change my opinion for the harmony of this forum. If that was the case Hodgson would have got his 3 seasons to make it "his" team and every player signed would get 3 seasons to see if they are good enough. You need to see progress to keep believing, that's my viewpoint although i'm more than happy to accept it might not be everyones. Cheers.
{Ed001's Note - so you didn't see progress last season over the absolute shambles Klopp inherited? If you didn't then you need help.}
10 Sep 2016 16:39:44
Im not sure what you don't understand, Waro. He has had two transfer windows. He has spent millions. Ill write it in capital letters if it might help your comprehension, kid.
Just because he didn't spend in January, doesn't mean he didn't have an opportunity to. My point remains that Klopp has no reasons why this season shouldn't be a success.
{Ed001's Note - and who would he have bought in January when he was still assessing the squad due to all the injuries? Some people need to get real. There is no magic wand, it takes time.}
10 Sep 2016 16:42:51
I seen us finish 8th ed? Maybe i do need help! Do you know any good shrinks?
{Ed001's Note - seen us finish 8th with a reserve side for most of the last few games as we concentrated on the cups. You do need help. I really wonder about some of you, already on the back of a new manager in his first season. Shanks would have been sacked, Paisley wouldn't have got anywhere with you lot. It is ridiculous.}
10 Sep 2016 16:53:30
Steven Caulker, Ed? Grujic?
{Ed001's Note - learn to read, Caulker was a loan because there was no one to buy. A bad loan on the advice of one of the coaching staff, but at least the damage was mitigated by it being a loan. Not sure what he has to do with buys though? Grujic is for the future, I fail to see the relevance in even mentioning him.}
10 Sep 2016 17:13:53
Whether this season or not is enough to "judge" klopp, i don't know. But i wonder to what end? To say he isn't good enough or he hasn't done enough? Then what? Curtains and start afsin?
10 Sep 2016 17:36:22
The discussion was about Klopp spending millions over two transfer windows. Caulker and Grujic contributed to that sum.
10 Sep 2016 20:03:00
Wtf we are 4 games into the season and we want the man gone because were not top of the league. Jeez, just chill and support the team.
He was working with low confidence players last season and got us to two cup finals. The team has been improved, maybe not the marquee signings most wanted but they are here now. I am guilty of questioning our ambition on that but they have undoubtedly made us stronger. So rather than spend the season picking holes and carping everytime a player miss kicks the ball try enjoying the ride.
Todays game was marvelous, yes we made mistakes but we could have won that 6-1 if not for sloppy finishing. We have improved and i will choose to look to the positives for now.
11 Sep 2016 19:07:30
Ed001 bang on as usual.
10 Sep 2016 05:03:00
Hey does anybody know which channel i should look for if I'm using the mobitv app? To watch the epl . especially pool games .
Thanks!
10 Sep 2016 03:22:44
I recall seeing a post asking about the difference between Yossi Benayoun and Coutinho, so I'd like to give my viewpoint quickly. The main difference is that Coutinho is already better than Yossi in most aspects but has only just scratched the surface of his ability and could become world class one day, whilst Yossi was in his prime whilst with us. Coutinho already has better passing, technique, creativity, long shots, agility, balance and dribbling than Yossi, he also has shown an ability to take a mean free kick. However where Yossi trumps Coutinho is in his David Silva like off the ball movement and game intelligence, although he wasn't at that level in terms of ability, he always knew where to be and would often pop up to score an important goal. He also was better than Coutinho at finishing and was very composed when he did get a chance. Although he sometimes could go missing he stepped up in big games, one that comes to mind is Real Madrid away when he scored that header. I would compare Benayoun to a les consistent, more slender, agile an silkier carrier of the ball Firmino, with both sharing a high level of football intelligence. I always thought Yossi was very underrated.
10 Sep 2016 02:35:49
I don't know about you guys but I'm most looking forward to seeing Matip play tomorrow, it will be interesting to see how he handles the pace of Vardy and God-willing he will build on his display against Spurs which was top notch and prove to be a top class centre back. Quite a few seasons have passed since we last had a reliable, dependable centre back, Jamie Carragher, Sami Hyypia and Daniel Agger come to mind as the last of their kind that we've had. The Skrtel years mark a dark period of time for Liverpool centre backs and hopefully Matip will change this.
10 Sep 2016 07:51:38
At the same time let's not rip him a new one if he struggles with pace just like klavan did. After the Arsenal game he was being touted as a great signing, but after burnley people were back to "he's only good enough for back up". I haven't made my mind up about him yet as its way too early say (klavan that is) .
Back into matip, I have high hopes but I'm just hoping some of the more bi polar fans don't turn on him if it doesn't go well today. Even vidic was made to look like a Sunday league player by torres.
10 Sep 2016 08:38:03
I think he'll cope admirably because he can read the game.
10 Sep 2016 11:48:31
And it is in his reading of the game that I appreciate especially his willingness to go forward.
10 Sep 2016 01:58:04
I recognise that Klopp might no have been 100% honest with the media but it's interesting that he said Sakho was only being sent out on loan to build up match fitness and fitness in general. This in direct conflict with the media tale that Jurgen Klopp was trying to get Sakho evicted from his home and told him he'd never wear Liverpool Red again due to his behaviour (slight exaggeration) . It just affirms the fact that the media know next to nothing about what is said, done or goes on behind the scenes.
10 Sep 2016 07:57:13
You'd be amazed at how many people believe what they read in the papers, despite the fact they know it's liable to be utter garbage. They still swallow it whole.
10 Sep 2016 10:10:28
The Eds told us that lfc were very keen to sell sakho, and it is a reasonable assumption that bad behaviour was a significant factor in them deciding to do that.
The media definitely twist and exaggerate stories, but there can be little doubt that there was a very serious falling out between klopp and sakho.
One can only hope that there is no residual bad atmosphere between them.
09 Sep 2016 22:58:57
Just seen the new look stand and stadium and all I can say is wow, looks absolutely stunning and far more modern, massive step in the direction. A massive well done to FSG who saw the need for progress and managed to do this without moving from our sacred home where so many legends have been through. We were already famous for our atmosphere, just imagine what we could do with roughly 8000 more people than before.
10 Sep 2016 03:31:34
well if it's 8000 quiet people then that'll just add to the graveyard atmosphere if late!? kidding lol, looking forward to it!