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07 Jun 2017 20:34:11
I wasn't even sold on vvd, now I'm gutted we have done what we have. All these reports of we have agreed terms but not a fee. Question though, Could legal action still be taken?

Fencey

{Ed025's Note - possible but unlikely i would say fencey..


1.) 07 Jun 2017 21:31:02
If the EPL have accepted Liverpool's apology then that will be it.

Southampton not going to bother with us now when they have won the battle hands down. Doubt they will allow us to sign players from them again i. e. Fulham/ Dempsey.

Other clubs will be looking at this situation with eyes wide open.

At this point I am expecting a disappointing summer. Clubs not going to bother with our haggling anymore. We have shown our true colours now.

{Ed025's Note - come on max you know better than that mate..


2.) 07 Jun 2017 21:43:28
The fact we've apologised, I think has stopped the PL from taking it further!


3.) 07 Jun 2017 23:36:28
Eds, and please don't shoot me down as i am not making excuses, i just don't understand the severity of all this tapping stuff.

Listening to Steve Nicol today, and i am not saying he is right, and yes the rules are different now. but he was almost suggesting its all a big fuss over nothing and that if agents were not around clubs would and actually do this all the time.

{Ed002's Note - It is a very serious matter. Would you not consider it an issue if Liverpool were banned from signing first team players for a year or two? They are already dealing with one transfer ban, a damaged reputation and clubs who don't want to do business with them - not an issue at all?}


4.) 08 Jun 2017 02:13:28
Ed, why does tapping up law in football exist, when in normal life and normal business, it goes on legally? Just asking, although I think we've been idiots yet again and heads need to roll, as it is law in football.

{Ed001's Note - it is not legal in normal business.}


5.) 08 Jun 2017 06:00:39
Exactly Ed001. I work for a publishing house and under contract am not allowed to speak to another publishing house without permission. If it was done in secret my company would be well miffed with both me and the competitor.

{Ed001's Note - I know a number of people who have been 'tapped up' by other companies with various consequences. It is the same in all walks of life, if you are high enough up the food chain to matter to the company who employs you.}


6.) 08 Jun 2017 13:14:50
Is it down to whether an employee is on a set contract or not, as my wife in the past has been head hunted before a few times, when agents for the new company have contacted her, had the interview and either offered the job or not, without her present (att) company knowing anything about it happening! Do all these head hunters break the law then? Sorry Eds, I know you're all skied under this morning, which I fully appreciate, just wanted to know! I also appreciate it's law in football and if broken, you should take the penalty!

{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the job, as I said it usually comes down to how far up the food chain you are but a head hunter is, in essence, the same as an agent. Clubs/companies can speak to the agent/headhunter, but not the player/employee direct.}


7.) 08 Jun 2017 03:26:50
If English clubs do it all the time, why would only Liverpool get punished though. Other clubs (City was mentioned) did the same things as Liverpool as far as the Stoke youngster goes too. Are Liverpool the only club dumb enough to get caught? I don't get why they're the only ones getting called out on it when it's happening at every club.

{Ed002's Note - English clubs don't "do it all of the time" and Manchester City has also been sanctioned for making an illegal approach to youngsters. Liverpool's behaviour has been terrible for years - far worse than any other club. The embarrassing attempts by some of the fans to deflect this is indeed laughable. In terms of youngsters, what Liverpool did to the kid from from Stoke is certainly the worst ever behaviour I have ever encountered and it should go to court and it should be out in the public domain quite how foul the club is and the damage they have done.}


8.) 09 Jun 2017 13:24:54
These clauses in employment contracts are notoriously difficult to enforce as it can be ruled as being a restriction of trade. I know that I've experienced issues trying to enforce one when an employee has left to go to a competitor. Has a club / player ever tried to challenge it on these grounds?


 

 

16 Apr 2017 14:29:50
Hi eds, you said we have looked at Keita from Rbl, do you think he will be keen to leave

Fencey

{Ed002's Note - I understand from an Arsenal scout that the club will look to make an offer to RBL for Naby Keita in the summer. He has been looked at by Arsenal on several occasions these past two seasons with interest also being shown by PSG and Dortmund with the prior interest of Bayern Munich waning although not ruled out. There has been no interest shown by Liverpool at all according to RBL but I am aware that rumours persist.

He will want to see what his options are before deciding.}


1.) 16 Apr 2017 15:49:22
Thanks ed, seems unlikely with the names mentioned and the fact Rbl have champions league, he may want to stay.


 

 

16 Jul 2016 12:27:04
Reports saying Klopp is willing to wait for next season to sign chilwell. Guess we'll have to pay a tribunal fee anyway, I would rather we pay the extra and have him for this season too.

Fencey

{Ed002's Note - It would open up the interest of another EPL side in him again.}


1.) 16 Jul 2016 13:31:05
Ed, I think that other epl side may be arsenal. Feel free to correct mw if i'm wrong.

{Ed002's Note - There is no secret about their interest which was dropped when Liverpool were expected to sign him.}


2.) 18 Jul 2016 13:06:28
Sorry to ask is answered but can't find it - is the wait til next season because of injury or money or both?

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool don't want to pay the money.}


 

 

30 May 2016 23:32:37
Rumours that Sturridge is going to be left out of the England squad. While I'll be gutted for him, from a liverpool point of view it won't be the worst thing. I think he needs to stay active to keep his muscles working but a few weeks off; whilst not injured, will do him good.

Fencey

1.) 31 May 2016 03:34:01
How could he have progressed when his LFC career has been blighted by injuries? Your post is quite harsh on the boy.


2.) 31 May 2016 08:02:26
Did I say he hasn't progressed?


3.) 31 May 2016 08:04:17
Which post? What was harsh?


4.) 31 May 2016 08:33:50
I think redohio was replying to the post above about yesil.


5.) 31 May 2016 13:53:53
His progression harsh or otherwise is not to be singled out via these kind of comments.


 

 

30 May 2016 23:32:37
Rumours that Sturridge is going to be left out of the England squad. While I'll be gutted for him, from a liverpool point of view it won't be the worst thing. I think he needs to stay active to keep his muscles working but a few weeks off; whilst not injured, will do him good.

Fencey

1.) 31 May 2016 03:35:15
Not too bothered really. We'll have him locked and loaded for the new season.


 

 

 

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18 Jul 2017 22:28:20
If klopp was told we would break the bank for Keita or vvd but could only get one, who would it be?
For me Keita, purely because I believe he can be special - I don't think vvd will be, although we could probably use a CB more than a CM! Tough one!

Fencey

1.) 18 Jul 2017 22:46:49
He'd have to go for NK but who know's.


2.) 18 Jul 2017 22:47:30
We should get both! We decided to go through the cheap options for LB and pushed a youngster to play at RB, if the club couldn't afford 3 first team players then that's it! I am ready to sacrifice Lallana!


3.) 18 Jul 2017 22:51:39
A really tough call!

i would go for Kieta.
There is still a number of intelligent/ decent CB's in the
Market. But Kieta's skill set is rare!


4.) 18 Jul 2017 23:01:15
VVD for me. I think improving the defence is more pressing.


5.) 18 Jul 2017 23:03:03
Agreed, Keita. Give Gomez a go, don't go splashing out 70 mil on a CB before giving Gomez a chance who could himself become a 70 mil player in a few years.


6.) 18 Jul 2017 23:29:35
For me it would be keita, even though we need a cb more. This is because if we miss out on keita this year everyone and their dog will want him for under 50 mil next year whereas I believe we have more chance of getting VVD next year out of the 2.


7.) 18 Jul 2017 23:30:53
It all depends on who you trust more; Lovren or Henderson. Personally I'd rather see Henderson in the midfield than Lovren in the defence.


8.) 18 Jul 2017 23:44:39
Hendersons place is not under threat.


 

 

08 Jul 2017 12:34:03
Genuinely can't wait for the transfer window to close and see what some of these posters are going to say who have been saying 'Keita will happen' or 'vvd is done' all summer!

Fencey

1.) 08 Jul 2017 13:47:14
They won't say anything mate.


2.) 08 Jul 2017 13:49:46
They might be saying 'Told you so', Fencey.


3.) 08 Jul 2017 14:28:07
In macca's defence, he said vvd was done, and it was according to his sources. Then of course it all went wrong. Hard to have a go at the lad about that.


4.) 08 Jul 2017 16:07:31
Just to clarify, not aimed at macca, I appreciate his input! A lot of posters giving it the big one by copying Twitter posts!


 

 

25 Jun 2017 15:55:51
I actually think the Ox is a good player for klopp, and if imagine plays like lallana in the middle. This will be useful in the games where we can press high, think it'll work In Europe and he big games. Not sure he's got quality to push for a starting berth in the games where we struggle though, but, if we have mane or Salah out or need a rest, we don't have pace out wide. I'd welcome him.

Fencey

1.) 25 Jun 2017 21:09:56
Well Fencey, I cannot imagine him playing like Lallana cos in reality which is where we all live in, he not fit to lace Lallana's boots nor does he have any of the raw skill and technical ability that Lallana possesses hence, I would not want him here as he is not good enough and has not shown that he can be in the past 4 seasons at Arenal. Now if Klopp wants to work with him in spite of his obvious faults, I will defer to Klopp on that but it does not mean that the Ox is suddenly a good player cos frankly, he is not.


2.) 25 Jun 2017 22:40:25
What about playing Lallana where Lallana plays? Besides even if you were correct what would Ox do with the ball once he won it? He has no intelligence with the ball. £25-£30m is an utter joke and only a deal at £8m would be a good purchase. That would be as a squad filler.


 

 

22 Jun 2017 21:08:56
Attacking side looks sorted, hope sturridge stays.
Id like to see sturridge start in games we should be winning still, with a firmino coutinho in behind. We have good rotation too, with lallana can wijnaldum all pushing for the place next to hendo for me. Kind of feel like I'd rather sign another winger than another cm though, so we can rotate mane and Salah a bit without losing one out wide - I really prefer coutinho cm.

Fencey

1.) 22 Jun 2017 21:13:49
Yeah, I'd definitely take another winger, any chance we could sign martins too?


2.) 22 Jun 2017 21:23:39
Ojo, Ejaria for cover.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 21:49:51
I don't see the need for another winger now. We have cover in Ojo, Milner and Llanna that can play on the wing. We need to sort the LB position firstly replacing Moreno.

Baz.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 22:08:49
Steph-Take it you have never seen Ejara play?


5.) 22 Jun 2017 22:37:39
Ojo must be thinking about his options with Salah coming through. will the young boys play FA and league Cup.


6.) 22 Jun 2017 22:46:39
I think ox is the player klopp has identified as that extra bit of more senior cover for the wings. And he can play attacking mid too. Someone like that is likely to be our last signing though as it's more important to get cb and lb sorted. Ojo, Woodburn and then cout, lallana, origi and Bobby can play as the wider attackers if rotation really needed.


7.) 22 Jun 2017 23:30:43
Ojo going out on loan to Newcastle.


8.) 23 Jun 2017 05:27:57
I think Salah is enough for our attacking options this summer. CB, LB and RB needs to get sorted first.
Spurs showing serious interest in Periera, hope we hijack that deal coz I think he is quality and an upgrade on Walker.


 

 

16 Jun 2017 17:30:24
Quick question, when spelling is put in brackets after a player name, is that done by eds after correction or the poster?

Fencey

1.) 16 Jun 2017 21:50:36
Let me see Lallana (Llama)


 

 

 

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21 Jul 2017 20:41:37
If he is training alone, they will have to review the situation and see if they think once the window closes he is worth keeping and will play. No matter how well of you are, if he won't, then you'd rather 60 million in the bank than an disruptive player. Genuinely believe Liverpool may go and offer 30 million now though - wouldn't put it past us.

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21 Jul 2017 16:59:14
Seems very odd they would plan a date to end interest!

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21 Jul 2017 10:11:01
I like the way £5 million is shunned as "nothing"

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20 Jul 2017 20:36:43
If this is serious, didn't ed002 say that VVD was in Austria, never mind the fact klopp is in Hong Kong.

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19 Jul 2017 20:40:03
Can't settle in Germany, too much of a risk surely?

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22 Jul 2017 17:41:34
Isn't van dijk 6'4 ;)

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21 Jul 2017 13:06:54
Would coutinho be influenced by whether or not neymar leaves?

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21 Jul 2017 13:10:20
Sarah who?

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20 Jul 2017 22:10:00
Very confused by this whole post.

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20 Jul 2017 10:38:17
5% of £70 million is 3.5 million - no matter how rich you are, its hard to say no to!

Fencey