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24 May 2017 13:17:40
So the worst we feared has happened. 2 girls from the school my kids go to were caught in the Manchester attack. One; 14 dead, the other in hospital with multiple injuries. I so feel for the surviving girl, the families and the parents. How sensless. Sorry not Liverpool related I know.


1.) 24 May 2017 14:09:29
It's absaloutly a disgrace these sick people need deporting if they have some sort of link to terrorism whether or not they plan on acting on it need deporting, I am no racist nor do I support something stupid like the edl but why should we share our own country with scumbags like thes who play they fear for there lives in there own country, let them be scared there it saves our own people been scared in there own country. Little kids been put through this ordeal who have no say in politics is shocking and these people don't even deserve oxygen.

2.) 24 May 2017 14:14:04
They had a minutes' silence at the game in Sydney tonight. Great to see the universal support for Manchester.

3.) 24 May 2017 15:03:26
Jamesy you are 100% right mate, these people should get no place to live anywhere in this world. In Islam it says killing one innocent life is equal to killing all humanity. In my view these people should get hanged no matter what.
Don't get me wrong Sharing country you know where these people are coming from. (Syriya, Iraq libiya etc.
Why becuz of these soo called peaceful westrens where they are destroying there countries for greed. People who have lost there families are coming as refuges to take any sort of revenge on innocent people like us.
If america and EU stop there acitivities there i bet there will be hardly any terorist threat in here. its all politics mate. Where all the truth get hidden from us.

4.) 24 May 2017 15:17:24
Jamsey, how do you deport someone who was born in this country, like this suicide bomber was.

5.) 24 May 2017 16:36:21
More no he was on The radar of mi5 he may have been British born but where his parents? This British born jihadi has just ruined 22 families in the name of Allah and all the other senseless killings of innocent people in other suicide bombings why are countries standing for it? Why do we have to stand strong and be scared to go to events fearing for our lives? These kids what have been killed have had no say in politics in this country or will ever have the opportunity too thanks too this bloke of they can't deport then detain them keep them out the way of innocent people because why should people fear going out in there own country and enjoying themselves.

6.) 24 May 2017 16:46:09
in Manchester we saw the worst of humanity but also the best in the locals who helped out in the midst of the carnage.
But maybe some of these angry thoughts should also be directed towards the current UK government who made a right mess of Libya, allowing extremism to take hold over there and also contributed greatly to the refugee crisis, that in turn allowed extremists to flood in from war zones?
maybe the current UK government should also be stopped from selling weapons to the Saudis who are then using them to bomb innocent civilians in Yemen? The same saudis who are known to supply terrorist organisations such as IS?
There is a reason why we are hated so much in certain parts of the world, one little sick f@ck he may have been, but without the support he obviously received in Libya them ideas would probably have stayed in his head.

{Ed025's Note - i dont care what his political or religious views were mikey, there is no excuse for what that bastard did mate..

7.) 24 May 2017 18:19:09
i agree ed. no excuse whatsoever justifies that.
My point is we should be aiming for peace, looking to build bridges and looking at our own governments actions around the world rather than blame the nearest immigrant.

8.) 24 May 2017 18:46:40
Yeah agree there ed025 mate, don't care what the excuse is. It isn't, and will never be good enough. for anyone to do something like that, is unspeakable. And such behavior needs to be eradicated by any HUMANE means necessary.

9.) 24 May 2017 19:19:17
There is no excuse nor explanation for reigning terror on innocent people. That is actually a very cowardly act.

10.) 24 May 2017 19:55:29
Hi Reds. First time poster on these pages, long time reader.

Firstly, it's commendable that people are trying to make sense of this heinous situation. Often, reason flies out of the window in times of such tragic sentiments.

Being a Muslim I can confirm that it is impossible to detect every last psychopath that is roaming our streets. Numerous studies into lives of terrorists have shown that they all had a pre-existing inclination towards violence and crime. When they are exposed to the global humanity crises, and when they perceive an absence of a legitimate outlet for their anger, they turn to hating "the system". These guys are dysfunctional community members who are isolated from other muslims or mosques because muslims shun their extreme tendencies. They are inspired by their anger and guided by tiny and highly fragmented terrorist groups via the web who believe they are at war with the west. In other words, their ideology is inconsequential - they are actually led by their personal psychological failings and an overwhelming anger towards some cause.

I believe the only way to stop them is to firstly address the cause of their anger and then try to reintegrate them into the society. Our government is led by amateurs who keep insisting that these psychos are ideology-driven. We continually refuse to acknowledge their valid grievances. We don't acknowledge the decimation we brought across the whole Muslim world since the Gulf war, and especially since the Afghan war. Worse-still we continue bombing civilians (just the US dropped 26,000 bombs last year, CIA does not share stats on civilian casualties but other sources suggest they are in hundreds of thousands) . We also continue to protect tyrant regimes like Saudis, Egyptians and Israelis. Our primary anti-terror initiative is Prevent which is a joke - all it does is misinforms the masses and turns dysfunctional characters into full-fledged haters of the west. And finally our media keeps printing tosh against muslims which inspires the next generation of terrorists to hating the west even more. All of the above will need to stop if our next generation is to enjoy the same peace that we usually enjoy. People like Blair need to be brought to justice, divisive forces like NewsCorp and other tabloids need to be curtailed. And we need to urgently withdraw from all military and diplomatic operations in the Muslim world.

Unfortunately none of the above will happen. But we should at least give it a go.


11.) 24 May 2017 19:57:57
Andy, I'm sure your kids will be devastated :- (. All the best to your family and to all the families/ friends of victims.

12.) 24 May 2017 20:31:09
The Manchester bomber was from. Manchester. He wasn't an immigrant Jani. This is not the place to debate his motives or the politics however.
It's the easiest thing to talk about immigrants and deportations after something like this.
None of this will bring the victims back or heal the hearts of the families - and this will do nothing to heal the hearts or mend the lives of victims of war in places like Syria and Libya. This is both a senseless slaughter of innocent lives and an attack on our values, values which include multiculturalism and tolerance. As football fans we appreciate diversity. Our Liverpool team features players from Brazil, Belgium (including of Congolese descent? ), Germany (of Turkish descent), England (including of Carribean descent), Cameroon, Croatia and Senegal. We've debated the merits of signing players of North African descent like Mahrez and Salah.
Manchester is a multicultural city, as all UK cities are, we have vibrant Chinese and Pakistani communities. The Curry mile is reknowned. It's part of what makes cities like Manchester and Liverpool vibrant places to live.

13.) 24 May 2017 20:37:55
Hammed, good post, Im with you.

14.) 24 May 2017 20:50:41
Agree, excellent post hammed, more sense and expertise in your post than I have seen in "news" for a long time.

15.) 24 May 2017 23:06:35
Hammed, very good post, but the bottom line, is that this is our country, and any potential bomber or bomb maker, should be removed, or evicted, sent back, our kids should feel safe going to a concert, their parents safe in the knowledge that their children will return home .

16.) 25 May 2017 07:12:55
Redforever, you're a potential bomber, as am i, should we be removed? A police state will not solve this problem.



12 May 2017 09:15:54
We have stuttered of late and seem to be limping towards 4th place.

What do you sll think the major problems are and how would you tackle them?

Confidence? Injuries? Team selection? Attitude? Tactics? Something else?


1.) 12 May 2017 10:03:04
Confidence. At this stage of the season we usually have nothing to play for in the league. We lack players who have "been there and done that" So they will need to rely on Klopp heavily who has off course had some success in Germany. Im just hoping they don't bottle it.

2.) 12 May 2017 10:26:48
I don't see many players lacking confidence. Maybe Origi. I think it's down to a lack of strength in depth. We've been unfortunate with injuries of late and we haven't got enough good players to replace them or to switch things up when it's not working.

Klopp's reluctance to change things on the pitch has come into criticism, but I honestly think he looks at things and thinks, "I have my best players on the pitch". We need more quality throughout the squad.

3.) 12 May 2017 10:43:20
What injuries? We only have henderson and mane missing, any team should be able to beat bottom half sides with a couple of injuries

The way things are going we will not stutter to the 4th but lose out to arsenal as i doubt we will win both our remaniing matches they way we are playing now

Westham have three straight clean sheets at home. its a disastrous end to the season where we were once challenging to the title in dec

Absolutely ashamed that these guys will lose out on top four.

Motivated teams don't play like we did against soton. I love klopp but really don't know what's going on right now.

4.) 12 May 2017 10:47:40
TQ, we have 2 players out at the minute (Henderson and Mane), good players for us but if can't cope with 2 injuries then we may give up now.

5.) 12 May 2017 10:56:18
I think we are suffering from being terminally predictable as without players like Mane and Henderson, and Lallana and Sturridge dropping in and out of the side, there is no-one around to give us any versatility in tactics. We effectively have 14 first team players (including 2 goalkeepers) available for every game and it's not enough.

6.) 12 May 2017 11:28:49
These two games will be a great test to show what we are made of as they are huge pressure games.

We have the talent to win both games but do we have the composure and belief, we will find out! 😁.

7.) 12 May 2017 11:29:02
Rover, I said the problem was a lack of strength in depth. We may have only had a few injuries, but when you lack depth, any injury to a first team player is massive. We've been especially unfortunate because Mané, Henderson and Lallana are key to the way we play.

There are also times when Klopp probably needs to make changes when things aren't clicking but he lacks options from the bench. The Crystal Palace game comes to mind.

8.) 12 May 2017 11:54:25
Its all of the above, injuries lead to a disjointed team and a loss of confidence, which then exposes weaknesses in the team and that the players do mot have the quality or character to get on with it during periods of poor form and injuries.

9.) 12 May 2017 12:48:40
Complacency is our biggest enemy. But we always respond to silly lackluster performances with a good solid professional outing, so I am quite confident we will be fine against west ham.

10.) 12 May 2017 13:10:15
It's a mixture Of everything. Over reliance on a core group of players, injuries, stale tactics, loss of form and A lack of confidence.

11.) 12 May 2017 13:57:03
My belief is that the main issue here is belief under the pressure the players are feeling now. Slowness to adapt to changing game circumstances both by JK and by the players isn't helping either, but the pressure is inducing nervousness and stifling things.
I suspect most of the team are kicking themselves that cl qualification isn't already done and dusted.
Missing Sadio and Jordan can't help; but I want to tell the players I still believe.

12.) 12 May 2017 14:38:36
I think there are numerous reasons. Lack of squad depth in terms of quality. Once you get away from the first team regulars the quality is pretty thin. Lack of flair and players with true inginuity, once Mane and his pace is removed all our attackers look ordinary, all need space to work. Klopp's unwillingness to adapt to the players he has, expecting them to play the same game instead of finding a formula that works with the players he has at his disposal. Klopp's indecision on substitutions I think is another. These then follow with a lack of confidence because of poor results and performances due to these mistakes.

13.) 12 May 2017 16:07:18
No leaders on the pitch doesn't help.

14.) 12 May 2017 18:33:09
We'll be alright. We've been in worse situations and come out smelling of roses.



01 Oct 2016 14:31:08
Finding a way to win games when you don't play well is the stuff of which title contenders are made.


1.) 01 Oct 2016 14:50:41
very good for condidence this win, coming from behind and not playing well too.

push on reds!

2.) 01 Oct 2016 14:51:47
4 nil I said, i was way off today well done swans in the first half, good 3 points for us well done reds.

3.) 01 Oct 2016 15:15:27
I also said 4 nil but i'm happy 3 points will do me.

4.) 01 Oct 2016 15:15:27
I also said 4 nil but i'm happy 3 points will do me.

5.) 01 Oct 2016 15:29:21
We can't rely on pens for 3 points.
Created enough today without converting which is convening for me. another day etc
Not moaning but!

6.) 01 Oct 2016 15:31:21
we don't do clean sheets, I expected a tight game, 1st half we could have been dead and buried, then having got the lead we give them a goalden chance right at the end to grab a point, happy with the 3pts but we have to tighten up at the back, also looks like Swansea will have a new manager next time they play.

7.) 01 Oct 2016 18:22:35
Spot on, KK. We need clean sheets badly because some of the defending to day was dreadful.



19 Sep 2016 19:14:56
Roberto Firminho! What a taste in hats.




11 Sep 2016 19:49:58
Am feeling that belief in Klopp's approach is justified today. I feel Chelski will offer a stern test though. Bring it on!
Pleased to see Lallana and Milner do well yesterday, paying back the trust Klopp has shown in them.


1.) 11 Sep 2016 22:58:16
I agree Chelsea will prove to be a real test not only because they're well organised with some real quality going forward but because of the antics they employ. Watched the game today and the way they deliberately wind players up and go down far too easily is frustrating. Just hope the lads don't allow themselves to loose concentration or get angry cause any sort of descent could result in a sending off. That Costa could be the key to winning or loosing cause he will either get someone sent off or get sent off himself. Hendo and Lucas will have to be mindful that even the slightest contact will result in them hitting the deck and rolling round like they've been hit with a brick.




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29 May 2017 08:54:43
Whether one's opinion is that Ojo has a long term future at the club or not, a loan to another prem side where he has a good chance of playing is a good move for him at this stage in his development. At least we're not stifling his development.


{Ed002's Note - Newncastle are looking for a permanent move but a loan to buy may suit them and Liverpool.}



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26 May 2017 09:09:16
Believe Navas will be looking to return to Spain so probably not interested. Would be a squad player blocking progress of e. g. Ojo. Would rather keep Markovic.


{Ed001's Note - we would have to be mad to sign Navas, terrible player.}



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24 May 2017 23:15:30
Spot on fuser. That said it was ill concieved and disrespectful to e competition.




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13 May 2017 10:41:20
How come 3rd party ownership is acceptble in some leagues but not others? Are FIFA trying to get a consistent approach?




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09 May 2017 12:01:25
Sale or loan? Loan could be good to gain 1st team experience.





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28 May 2017 13:28:41
Seriously, even in the Scottish league, going a whole domestic season unbeaten is some achievement.




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28 May 2017 12:47:09
Getting past the CL group stages.




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27 May 2017 10:11:20
Whatever happened off the pitch he always seemed to give his all once he put his boots on. Teammates seemed to get on with him - I don't think he was difficult in the dressing room.
The insurmountable problem is the way he treated the club, especially after the support the club gave him.




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27 May 2017 09:40:52
Good luck with the business - it's a hard road but a rewarding one if it works out.
I think that JK is looking for players who will not only improve the 1st 11 but also buy into the work ethic and team culture.




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27 May 2017 00:17:16
I'd sign a player like Dier if available, but swap? No way.