Liverpool banter 2

07 Dec 2025 17:44:27
Had a little more time to sit and think about what happened yesterday, from performance, result and Salah's comments, and honestly, time has made me even more furious with Salah. He knows exactly what it is he is doing, and what the end goal is, and it is not with the view of what is best for the club, it is about what is best for him. I never expected this of Salah, I never even suspected he was like this, but I guess I was wrong.

Salah has only ever spoken to the media when he wants something from the club. Before, it was to get the big bumper contract. Now, he wants to play games, and is willing to oust Slot to do so. Van Dijk, for as poor as he has been, has at least faced the media, time and time again as a senior professional. He's faced the music and the hard questions, voicing his support for the team at every occasion, protecting his teammates in the process. Salah, has never once done this in his career, not even when Trent was facing negativity from Liverpool fans. But, when it comes to him, Salah suddenly finds his voice and speaks out.

Let's be real, Salah has done nothing this season to warrant his game time. Opposition players are literally talking about the space he leaves behind, and exploiting it. If Salah can't provide the goals and assists, then an alternative solution has to be found. Plus, Salah had many opportunities this season, and has been woeful. His first touch, passing and influence has been appalling. If he was just poor in front of goal, that would be one thing, but even his technical attributes have regressed. The physical deterioration was to be expected, at his age and having played Klopp's high press style in his prime, but he can't even beat a man 1 vs 1, whether that be against a title challenging full back, or a relegation expected full back.

This is not the way I thought Salah would depart the club. I thought, at the end of this season, Salah would get a celebration, plaque, etc, and leave Liverpool a legend with a spotless record. Instead, the majority of Liverpool recognise what he is doing, and their opinion of him will sour, not significantly because his effort, performances and success warrant his legendary status, but it is still a bitter pill to swallow for us.

Amazing to think that in 8 years, all of Salah's interviews have been concerning himself. Not the club, not even standing up for a teammate (as would be expected of a senior player) but to further his own agenda. I think he had 5 interviews in that 8 year span, 3 of which were last season concerning his contract. That is both disheartening and disappointing.

{Ed025's Note - spot on MANGO..

07 Dec 2025 18:59:46
Agree 100% with that mango. V disappointed in him but not surprised.

07 Dec 2025 19:20:18
Bang on mate. It’s such a sad ending to a player that is up there with Liverpool’s best. Even sadder that I believe he genuinely loves the club but unfortunately his statement yesterday will tarnish his reputation forever, such a shame 😔.

07 Dec 2025 19:28:42
Salah never defended his teammates before? You’ve got to be kidding, right? Let me tell you something. There was a big Liverpool fan page on Twitter that posted pictures of both Diaz and Nunez with their jersey numbers alongside pictures of Wirtz and Isak, with the caption: “Name a bigger upgrade in footballing history. ”
What did Salah do? He reposted it and said, “How about we celebrate the great signings without disrespecting the PL champions? ” But sure, tell me again how he never speaks up for anyone. I’ll pretend that didn’t happen.

Talking about a new contract? What’s wrong with that? When Trent stayed quiet and didn't say anything about his contract situation, most people were bashing him, saying he should’ve said something instead of staying silent. That he owns fans some clarity. But when Salah says something about his own contract situation, suddenly it’s wrong? Pick a side and stick with it.

Let’s be honest, some people have been waiting ages for the chance to bash him, and now they’re sprinting out of the shadows like it’s Black Friday at Costco.

07 Dec 2025 19:31:25
That is one hell of a rant against our most influential player of the last 5-6 years who is getting shafted by the manager.
Out of form? maybe still not may in the team have scored more than him.


Deserve to be benched probably, but you don't get back to form by sitting on the bench game after game.
I can fully understand why he is fuming.

07 Dec 2025 19:56:01
Slot had the balls to do the right thing even though he knew Mo would do something like this as he has previous. Everyone was shouting for him to be benched but now Slot does it everyone backtracks. Sooner or later VVD will also go. That’s what happens in football and always has. Everyone was calling for a new left back to replace Robbo.

It was done and the kid needs time to fit into the team. Salah has had 20 games to show he deserves a place in the first 11. He couldn’t do it so he’s on the bench. Right decision. He’s also off to AFCON on 15 December so we need to play without him anyway.

07 Dec 2025 19:59:57
Self preservation is what this is. You are spot on this is about what's best for himself. I am not backing Slot but Salah is wrong for doing this. He has been at the club for so long, hopefully understands what LFC is all about and still does this. The thing that annoys me most is when he said “i have so much for the club over the years”.

There are far greater people that have served this club that have done a lot for the club, its fans and community too. For all that he has done for the club the fans have adored him as our own, so why go and say things like this.

07 Dec 2025 20:20:08
Amazing how a drop in form totally disunites everyone. Personally speaking I’d be getting rid of Slot and Salah.

07 Dec 2025 20:28:35
I'm with you Mango. The more I think about it the more pi**ed off I'm getting at Mo.

This has CR7 vs Ten Hag vibes, Lukaku vs Chelsea vibes, Vini vs Alonso vibes.

superstar vs coach / manager / club vibes

The club has to come out on top of this, so I see no way back for Mo

FFS - "I'm not bigger than than anyone, but I have earned my position" so, what does that mean? you can just chill on $400k/ week and just expect to start every game? nah, not for me.

Imagine if this was Trent.

I'm the guy who didn't want to extend Mo. so this is easy for me. Congrats Mo, you're arrogance and entitlement has more than likely forced yourself out of the club.

{Ed025's Note - top post Faith..

07 Dec 2025 19:33:47
Very apt profile pic. You are as blind as a bat.

07 Dec 2025 20:46:58
Very apt name.

07 Dec 2025 23:46:54
Beg Tets and WarMachine73 - play nicely please.

07 Dec 2025 23:54:52
Well said Faith, Mo knows exactly what he wanted to say, but it was all me me me, he now knows that he has to leave our great club and play elsewhere,
Maybe that's what he is annoyed with.

07 Dec 2025 17:23:16
League form all over the place, dressing room split, unhappy star bitching to the press, ex-legend potentially coming in as an interim. Oh my god. We're becoming Man Utd!

07 Dec 2025 18:44:59
We have to do it for 12 years before we're them.

07 Dec 2025 19:04:17
"ex-legend potentially coming in as an interim".

And who is this "ex-legend" coming in to save the day in the interim?

07 Dec 2025 19:20:08
Don't even joke Oddsquad.

07 Dec 2025 19:28:40
Oli playing the fool again I see.

07 Dec 2025 17:22:49
Realistically no big name manager is going to want to come in for 6months. I remember Carra said weeks ago klopp and Gerrard waiting in the wings. It seems whoever is the main target now has said no until next season. We are now at a critical stage. Get this entirely wrong and we will head the way of Man Utd.

The captain also needs to come out and sort that dressing room out. I watched the Kelleher podcast with Ben Foster and that was very interesting regarding the coaching and leadership. How great a leader Hendo was and Milner. Something that's missing in that dressing room right now.

07 Dec 2025 18:14:17
Well Klopp would be a very big name manager if he was interested. Might be the perfect man for six months.

Just like Slot was needed to balance Klopp's ultra attacking style last year, we can reverse and have klopp balance Slots style the other direction. The middle land is a really good place.

07 Dec 2025 18:32:50
Virgil's too laid back and Salah's priority is himself. The newer generation don't have as many leaders with the determination required, perhaps with the exception of Szoboszlai. You don't need every player like that but we needed more to take over. Konate, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Jones, Gakpo, Frimpong, Wirtz, Ekitike, Isak all seem like "chill" guys.

07 Dec 2025 19:29:52
Babbity… some garbage take that. I’ll reserve judgement on these world class players until we get another manager in.

07 Dec 2025 21:40:21
Frode, I didn't question their quality or even their professionalism. I just said we have too many players of a certain personality type compared to what we used to have. We have too many laid back types and not enough gritty leaders.

I don't mean laid back as in lazy. I mean it as they aren't going to be rallying the others to dig themselves out of this mess. And we can know this by simple observation.

07 Dec 2025 16:41:46
I have always been a massive fan of salah, like just about everyone else on this site.
But he has absolutely no right to start throwing his toys out if he's not starting or playing. His form has been poor and slot has dropped him. It's really that simple.


As soon as you get players acting like this it causes all sorts of issues I would suspect. Everyone needs to earn their place.
I suspect that the reason konate keeps getting picked is that there are not many options to cover his position.

07 Dec 2025 17:05:40
Exactly, him and Mane behaved strangely even during Klopp's time. And this time it has been a bit over the top. Didn't like it one bit during Klopp's time and don't like such behaviour even now. But the other side of the coin is that our manager has not been objective about team selection at all. There were many ocassions last year when Salah could have been subbed a little earlier in certain games but chose never to do so.

And this year, there are many others who have performed as bad or even worse, but tend to play always. One conspiracy theory is that it is extremely calculative to drop Salah before an easy run, at least on paper. I am sure they wanted to show how wins have all coincided with Salah being dropped. But now that we have accumulated only 4 out of a possible 9, everything has unravelled!

07 Dec 2025 17:12:52
There is quite clear evidence that CON-ate has been wilfully "throwing games" to further his cause, so much so it has back fired on him thankfully.

There have been options to steer clear of him such as VVD moving to right centre back and Robbo as a new CB till the window, Endo could also play next to VVD till the window, Gomez also when fit another option, a change of formation to three at the back never been tried.

There has to be TWO new CBs in the window, one as cover for injury the new pecking order would then be the two new CBs as first choice VVD as third choice, Robbo, Gomez, Endo till the end of the season. Bajcetic could also come into the picture if fitness levels improve?

Obviously if Giovanni is available this season, then he rivals the two new CBs and VVD becomes the fourth choice and also loses the captaincy for good!

CON-ate Seventh Choice can then f@ck off at Xmas, never to be seen again in a LFC shirt?

07 Dec 2025 17:17:40
If Slot was dropping the likes of Konate, VVD, Macca, Gakpo, Grav, Jones because of poor form, do you still think that Salah would be making a noise?

07 Dec 2025 17:20:34
100%. And reason Gakpo keeps getting picked is zero cover. Can’t stick a 17 year old in a non functioning team when we need experienced players to step up to the plate. Salah has always behaved like this.

But when he’s winning yes the league then it’s fair enough it’s all about him. But when he’s not it’s is beyond pathetic. Everyone on here has been calling for Chiesa to play instead of Salah for weeks.

07 Dec 2025 17:26:08
He kinda does when Gakpo plays week in week out even though he's dirt, Konate who should never be allowed wear the Liverpool shirt again plays week in week out. 90% of the team are out there looking like Sunday leaguers but still getting their places. I'm not saying Salah's performances are worthy of starting every game but put yourself in his shoes and there's absolutely other players who need dropping before Mo. An underperforming Salah is still more dangerous than just about anyone in that team right now.

I don't outright condone anyone kicking up a fuss for being dropped because of bad form but the whole squad has had bad form for months now. that's not an individual performance issue, that's a manager issue.

Whilst Salah's comments were definitely self centred I'm glad somebody has said something to raise issue. Clearly the problems in the dressing room are untenable, and the sooner the club realises this the better. I would have preferred to see Mo raise these issues without making it about himself but even if he did that he would still come under scrutiny for disrespecting the manager and the club so in a situation like this, you just can't win.

07 Dec 2025 18:05:02
The whole team has been poor but he has taken the most criticism because he’s always managed to pull rabbits out of hats. His numbers last year were insane. All this talk about his “legs have gone” is bs. He keeps himself in peak condition. Hence him posting those numbers last season at his age. The team don’t look fit. How is Isak still not match fit? It’s December! How are we still letting 2-0 leads go? The team is not performing. The system is not working. And without Salah on the right we have zero threat from that side.

It was painful watching us last night. We just stumbled to a 2-0 lead. And then threw it away. I don’t agree with Salah’s outburst but I understand. It was the top sports story when he was benched. It must be galling for him seeing all this bs written about him and seeing Carra saying he only spoke when he wanted a new contract. The club is somehow in a mess but it is not Salah’s fault. When you hear about Slot going back to Holland and Dubai every week then who do you think is more committed to the club, Salah or Slot?

07 Dec 2025 18:16:04
Leoni will not be available this season.

07 Dec 2025 19:12:36
Agreed, @flidby. Salah has been benched this season yet, we are still a shambles and still don't win majority of those games so clearly, he is not the sole source of our woes now, is he?

This is why I also understand his outburst cos he feels he is the one having to hold smoke for the other poor performing plays who never get benched, btw) and prolly thinks SLot is scapegoating him by benching him in a bid to hide his own blatant new found incompetence, ego and poor man management. At least, that's how I feel.

07 Dec 2025 19:18:59
Despite all the pelters Gakpo gets, in the PL he's got the same goals, but more assists as Salah this season.

07 Dec 2025 16:23:00
Ed01,

Salah said there are people at the club who don’t want him there…

If that’s true, then this clearly isn’t just about him being benched.

If Hughes or Edwards are actually trying to create a situation where Salah gets scapegoated so they can push him toward a January exit and cover up their questionable summer recruitment, then that would be seriously out of order, brutally manipulative, and a massive sign of disrespect toward Salah.

I mean, Salah said just yesterday that he had a good relationship with Slot, and now suddenly he has no relationship with him at all? It feels like Slot has basically left him out to dry.

I genuinely hope FSG step in, because if this is what’s going on, then Hughes, Edwards, and Slot all need to go.

{Ed001's Note - they are trying to manoeuvre him out, yes.}

07 Dec 2025 17:04:59
As brilliant as Mo is, he is also incredibly self focused.
The best thing he could have done is to bide his time and start scoring again. The real issue is that the team is just not set up for him anymore and he is at peak value, in the context of a 2 year contract.

The Saudi's will be creaming themselves that this opportunity has come early and will spend money on Ebay like the misses after the pub.

07 Dec 2025 17:14:12
Are they scapegoating him? that's not what I’ve seen. On the contrary Slot said last week that Salah is going AFCON so we have to get used to playing without him but he still has a big part to play.

To me this scapegoating rubbish is in Salah’s head as he’s annoyed at being rightfully dropped. He’s just deflecting from the fact that he’s been a bit crap this season.

{Ed025's Note - a bit?..

07 Dec 2025 17:17:16
Salah started and played in the vast majority of games before he was benched 3 games ago. He has been pretty poor for the majority of these games. If it was any other player in such a poor run of form everyone would be asking for them to be benched. I love the man but he has had more than enough opportunities to prove himself this season and hasn't done so. If he'd have made more of a contribution in all the games he played prior to 3 games ago he would still be in the starting line up.

Its not slot who was making him play badly when he had the ball, that was down to himself so not sure how he can complain really. I think because people want Slot out they are happy to side with Salah despite Salahs poor form. Truth is beither Slot or Salah have been good enough this season.

07 Dec 2025 17:37:13
It seems to me that Edwards and Hughes were probably reluctant to give Salah that record deal at his age. It went against the grain of what they usually do. They were probably desperately hoping he would continue his form of last season. For various reasons, the biggest being not receiving the service he used to get from Trent, that has not happened.

So a player on a record deal who is not producing is an embarrassment to them. So it wouldn't surprise me if there was an attempt to force Salah out, as it would cut the clubs losses on the deal. Having said that, Salah was out of order to drop a bomb like that on what looks to be his departure from the club.

07 Dec 2025 17:58:44
He’s never scoring again in this Slot system.

07 Dec 2025 18:20:11
Joyce has put out a hit piece on Mo.

07 Dec 2025 18:00:24
Ed1 why now are they trying to oust Salah? They just gave him a new contract seems very odd?

{Ed001's Note - Slot doesn't want him as part of the team and he doesn't really fit well with the new signings. Plus he would provide extra funds to spend and reduce outgoings by a significant amount as our highest earner. It is just felt that the time is right before his value drops.}

07 Dec 2025 16:19:44
But i thought everyone on here wanted Salah dropped🤔.

07 Dec 2025 16:49:52
I think its more that it doesn’t matter who starts or who is dropped. And thatbis apparent now. The football and results are always the same regardless of who’s on the pitch. Maybe its not necessarily the players but the dreadful tactics. Saying that, konate is a rule onto himself these days. I was a fan but the drop this season has been terrible.

07 Dec 2025 16:54:12
Only you Florian. You’re the only one patrolling the site wanting Slot to stay.

07 Dec 2025 16:54:28
That is exactly what I said yesterday Florian.

07 Dec 2025 17:16:24
F Musiala, I don’t post much here, but I’m a consistent reader. It’s clear from your posts that you’re a huge admirer of Slot, and that’s fine.

See, getting dropped is one thing; getting completely exiled is something else entirely.

Salah literally said he had a meeting with Slot, and Slot didn’t even give him an explanation for why he’s been dropped. Meanwhile, Konate, Gakpo, and Mac Allister have all been worse than Salah this season, yet they start almost every game.

Then the media push this narrative that Salah’s legs have gone or that he should be benched. Do you ever see that same scrutiny for Gakpo, Macca, or above all, Konate?

Salah has clearly been cornered.

And this whole idea that Slot has "credit in the bank" is only because of the record-breaking season Salah produced last year. Without that, Slot would already be in Ibiza for a few months now.

07 Dec 2025 17:20:06
Everyone also wants Konate, Macca, Gakpo, Grav, VVD dropped. because let's be honest, they haven't exactly been anything close to what they were last year.

And anyway. Salah was dropped, and what's changed?

07 Dec 2025 17:31:08
Aoe, id agree on the dreadful tactics, by the time our team saunters into the opposition half after 20 plus passes between centre backs the low block is set, doesn't matter what team it is, and then when Mo or Gapko get the ball they're faced with 2 defenders and our full backs have moved inside the already cluttered centre, there's nothing on but another pass backwards or a suicidal attempt at beating 2 men as they are both cut in on to their favored foot merchants, rinse and repeat.

Tactics are fundamentaly flawed.

This does not excuse Salahs outburst, but it must be so frustrating as a elite player being hamstrung by such a useless tactical plan.

07 Dec 2025 17:36:41
Florian, you are right, pretty much everyone on here wanted Salah dropped, me included. He had been lousy up till when he was. And, before anyone says, he wasn't the only one.

07 Dec 2025 17:49:01
Salah's persistent non performances has got him dropped and deservedly so, no LFC player has ever been selected on his past reputation and never will be, that's why this club is the most successful english club in history, by not resting on its laurels/ standing still?

For example Mac Allister said last season that Romero was the best centre half in the world, this was absolutely ridiculed by many on this banter site and above, looks like a very good call to me then and NOW, as I was the only poster (and ed025) who fully backed Mac Allisters views, the reason being quite simple Mac Allister was seeing the deterioration of VVD in training/ playing matches, he is also being picked presently and frequently solely on his past reputation just like Salah has been!

As you can see quite clearly from the current league table, past reputations get you nothing in football, it's healthy competition in every position that makes you better not worse!

Congratulations ed025 for currently being the best football team on merseyside and quite deservedly so, that could very well continue to the end of the season, as we only play players who did well last season but not this season!

{Ed025's Note - and long may it continue Bond.. :)

07 Dec 2025 18:00:07
Shankly who wants Salah out? Anyone with a brain knows it’s Slot’s tactics killing our squad. Salah goes from being the best in the league to his legs have gone and he’s rubbish in the space of a few months. Yeah that’s Slot.

07 Dec 2025 17:04:23
Frode, that’s Sir Postalot’s agenda, regardless of the debate being had.

07 Dec 2025 18:22:23
Salah hasn't, or hadn't, been completely exiled.
He's been on the bench.
All the speculation about what has been said, what has not been said, who is going, who is not going and who is coming in is more entertaining than the football though 😂.

07 Dec 2025 18:35:33
Salah getting dropped = Totally fair and justified
Other players playing ass and not getting dropped = questionable and understandably getting scrutiny. How Gakpo keeps playing when he's utterly ineffectual must be quite frustrating. Especially for players like isak/ etikite, salah and wirtz

Also Slot clearly is doing a terrible job so he can also go. Its not one or the other.

07 Dec 2025 19:31:25
Dean W… I’ll reserve judgement on world class talent until another manager comes in.

07 Dec 2025 20:10:16
My question was about Salah not slot Frode. Just think its hilarious the stick Salah was getting on here all season. But because its Slot dropping him he's an alltime legend again all of a sudden. hypocritical just a touch.

07 Dec 2025 16:17:59
Long time reader but first time poster. Lifelong supporter and been going to Anfield since Shankly's days so I have seen plenty of good and some bad during the years.
There have been some poor players and teams in that time but the current squad is the most underperforming in terms of player quality. The players have to take some responsibility for performances and results but they appear to be hampered by the manager's tactics and methods and his unwillingness to make effective changes in an attempt to improve things.
We spent £450m on quality players in the summer with apparently little to no idea how to integrate them. These players have not become poor overnight and clearly we are not playing to their strengths.
The team lacks structure and direction and apparently motivation. The players do not seem fit or strong enough and they play at such a slow pace with little intensity making it easier for the opposition.

It is awful to watch.
Really thought that Klopp was the modern day Shankly and Slot the new Paisley and expected us to dominate for the next few years. Complete error of judgement in respect of Slot who appears to have no idea what needs to be done to address the slide.
Slot has to go now to give us a better chance of qualifying for the Champions League next season which really should be the minimum requirement with this squad of players. Otherwise the financial implications may cause additional problems.
Hoping the board will act quickly and swiftly and appoint a manager that will get the best out of these players, play some attractive football and turn us fans into believers again!
Fingers (everything) crossed!

07 Dec 2025 16:46:17
Stevie G might have problems with HMRC if he returns to the UK.

Interim manager:

If Joechim Lowe can be pursueded to come out of retirement for a few months until the summer, is my preference.

James Milner on the coaching staff.

Slot, Von Bronkhorst, Hughes and Edwards gone. ASAP.

I wonder if anyone from FSG reads these posts. 🤔🤔?

{Ed001's Note - there are no HMRC problems.}

07 Dec 2025 17:07:40
I am similar to you, KK, in terms of time watching and attending the games.

Like you, I saw an analogy with Shanks and Sir Bob but I guess that it's not to be. Incredibly disappointed at what has happened and can't really fathom why. Contrary to what some have posted, I don't think that Slot just struck lucky in winning the League. There have been many occasions when a manager has inherited a top team and failed to win anything, so Slot does deserve respect and credit for what was achieved last season. Anything else is just disrespectful, imho.

I don't think that it's healthy that his family has remained in the Netherlands and think it likely that this has played its part, although it's unlikely to be the only reason. In my opinion, there is no truer statement that "Behind every good man is an even better woman".

I think that Slot is gone but will always wish him well and welcome him back as a legend for what he achieved.

In terms of future mangers, all are risky, as was Slot and Klopp but the the same could have been and was said for Shanks, Sir Bob, KK and look at how things turned out :) .

There are some great names being banded around and I am sure that whoever comes in will do their best. Unlikely as it seems, I would love to see Carlo Ancelotti here. I think that he was the alternative to Klopp, all those years ago but may be wrong on that. An amazing manager and a great individual, by all accounts. Obviously, he won't be available until after the World Cup but definitely my first choice, even given his age.

In the interim? I am not keen on Gerrard but wonder whether Thiago Alacantra could be an option? Very mixed feelings, at the moment, as I hate to see the club changing managers, especially after such a relatively short time but unfortunately, like most on here, I just can't see things improving under Arne, so change is needed.

07 Dec 2025 17:43:13
Why this clamour to get Hughes and Edwards out? Pretty much everyone on here was singing their praises 3 months ago. I doubt if anyone on here knows what they actually do. Quite frankly, I don't care. I pay money to watch those on the pitch and Hughes and Edwards helped deliver over 400 million of players in the summer, who we were all mostly happy with.

What's gone wrong since will inevitably rest with the manager, but I very much doubt Hughes and Edwards will be going anywhere.

07 Dec 2025 17:51:22
Thanks Ed001.

If no silly tax demands from HMRC, then Stevie G definitely on the coaching staff.
Perhaps even interim coach/ manager.?

I like the idea of Klopp becoming the replacement for Edwards/ Hughes.

07 Dec 2025 19:18:55
"Why this clamour to get Hughes and Edwards out".

Rome obv., both gentlemen were the ones who forced these tactics (that the players said they don't like, btw) on Slot.

Seriously, the defence of Slot is becoming embarrassing at this point.

07 Dec 2025 20:00:46
Stevie G has already said that he would manage Liverpool for nothing so HMRC can have as much of that as they want.

07 Dec 2025 15:29:33
If it is indeed true that Hughes is the one that wants Salah gone, then I am worried that our rot will get much worse than it gets better.

Pure guesswork, but Hughes could be telling Slot that he (Slot) has his (Hughes) backing to drop Salah, and even though the results and performance remains s**t, he will not remove Slot from his position.

How did we get ourselves into this utter mess when we should be pushing on after winning the league last season?

FSG might need to do a full reset on the football structure, removing Edwards, Hughes and Slot if the situation worsens, otherwise once the bad culture gets engrained, it will be tough and take a long time to turn around.

07 Dec 2025 15:56:30
Sorry if I’ve missed something.

Where has the narrative come from that Hughes is the instigator in getting rid of Salah.

I genuinely can’t believe a title winning manager would allow himself to be dictated to by a director of football on who he can and can’t play.

07 Dec 2025 15:56:55
Kaisuke, you've just made a whole scenario up there purely based on nothing but guess work, as you've admitted yourself.

07 Dec 2025 16:05:48
I will say I’m frustrated by Mo’s comments, though I do think he has a right to be upset.

The things he said only divide the team and the fan base, at its core it’s selfish of him. More than ever this team needs to stick together, not be more divisive. Soccer, more than any other sport in my opinion, is about the collective.

The way he did what he did goes against that very principle; yes Salah has been unreal, imo best player the club has ever had, but it doesn’t give him permission to put himself above everyone else in the teams darkest hour. His words were honest but take that honesty to the manager, owners, and leadership at the club. It’s wasted filling headlines and social media posts and only hurts the team more.

Very frustrated with Mo this morning.

{Ed025's Note - good post TKE, but Salah is nowhere near the best player you have ever had mate...imo..

07 Dec 2025 16:50:15
I doubt it runs that deep, the managers day to day decisions are not supervised by the hierarchy. Slot doesn't need the support of anybody to drop players. A managers decisions generally aren't questioned unless something really out of the ordinary occurs.

I think, if anything, it's Slot's position that's being questioned. For a title winning squad to fall apart in such a short space of time doesn't point to individual performances, it points to the manager. Personally, I believe the club has been looking at alternatives for a number of week, it just unfortunate that nobodys really available. Anybody who would fit the bill would have to be coaxed out of their current role and negotiations would take quite some time.

Gerrard should have been brought in weeks ago in my opinion, it's been evident Slot lost the dressing room since the very start of the season. I know a lot of fans, myself included, have been questioning countless decisions made by Slot back as early as February. If half-wits like me can see fatal tactical errors, then what do the players see? And more importantly, how do they feel about it?!

Unfortunately, I don't see the club valuing Gerrard's ability to ignite drive and passion along with the credibility and respect he has in the dressing room, above his tactical shortcomings or lacklustre CV.

07 Dec 2025 16:55:24
Ed01 JK implied that Hughes is a key instigator in wanting Salah out.

07 Dec 2025 17:48:35
Ed025, like you say, Salah isn't the best player we've ever had. Kenny, Barnes, Gerrard, to name 3, are all better. None of those sulked when things didn't go their way either.

{Ed025's Note - Kenny stands out by a mile for me Rome..

07 Dec 2025 18:36:54
On his salary, with his current output then yeah i can understand wanting management to get rid, his salary is probably worth 2 normal players.

07 Dec 2025 15:25:55
Now other managers pointing out how easy we were got at. For god sake sack the man.

07 Dec 2025 15:14:29
I’m not a fan of Amy player airing our laundry in public but I completely get where Salah is coming from. Salah had the option of leaving in the summer and getting potentially a massive signing on bonus wherever he would go but was clearly sold a dream and an Idea with him playing a central part otherwise he would have left. Now we have Slot publicly dropping Salah for 3 consecutive games knowing full well the stir it would make! Before the game yesterday the media were already talking about Salah and his legs been gone etc so of course he is going to speak! Salah hasn’t been great but he is not been utilised correctly and we’re not playing to his/ our strengths.

Slot is fully to blame for where we are at, he has turned ‘world class players’ into nobodies. Players haven’t downed tools or lack fitness and all these other excuses I’ve heard, we are just set up terribly! Like him or not Carragher clocked it in the community shield and asked Slot directly about being run through and Slot smugly dismissed it, roll on 4 months and exactly what Carragher said has come to fruition. Let’s all pray for a swift sacking!

{Ed025's Note - so are you saying that even if he is not performing and has been terrible that his place should be guaranteed Dow-ney?, maybe they should offer him more money seeing as he lost out on a signing on fee mate...or we could start a go-fund-me page for him?..

07 Dec 2025 16:10:34
I just think the general consensus is that Salah is being made the scape goat, how KONATE remains on the team sheet starting line up to me is baffling. Bar far the worst player in the starting 11 and refusing to sign a contract as he felt he would have his pick of teams at the end of it, there are a few others as well that really should be dropped. To make an example of Salah when he still has plenty to offer for me is the reason for the outburst.

Know one really knows what’s going on but I think it’s becoming more clear Slot has lost control and his arrogance is not benefitting him, he may seem to think Hughes backs him hence the power going to his head but eve blind arrogance can’t keep you safe forever.

I would be sad to see Salah go he’s been a great servant but of his time has come because his outburst then I for one don’t blame him speaking out, he probably feels he has nothing left to lose, and wants his reasons to be known. Reading his interview in full and digesting it, I feel this is nothing new and while he may come across as self entitled people need to remember he’s always had a selfish streak which is why he’s won so much and done so well. Every top sports star has a streak of selfishness in them.

Salah will always be a bonfied legend even if he’s being forced out, just such a waste of a talent to sign him for 2 years then 6 months later try force him out as being one of the “issues” when clearly it’s the tactics of the coach who is blind to criticism that’s making world class players look average overnight.

Hughes needs to grow some balls and man up and stop playing with the power he thinks he has too, he for me is allowing this mess to manifest, strong leadership is required but it appears we have rubber men in charge.

07 Dec 2025 16:14:09
Don’t think I said anywhere that any players position should be guaranteed? My point is the player is coming out saying that promises have been made and I want to know what promises? He is also saying he is being thrown under the bus and that the manager no longer talks to him? This doesn’t sound like good management at all! My fear here is that we are/ were being slick in the summer and disingenuous with a player who has been loyal to the club and a modern legend.

In terms of performance Salah hasn’t been great but neither has Konate, Virg, Wirtz, Macca, Isak, Kerkez, Gakpo…. have any of these been dropped for 3 consecutive games and ironically at a time when Salah actually started to look the sharpest he has all season.

07 Dec 2025 16:00:01
Ed025, I've asked my family to not buy me any presents this Xmas, but to donate what they would've spent, to Mo Salah and his family, at this difficult time.

{Ed025's Note - you are a good man Rome, charitastic donation there mate.. :)

07 Dec 2025 16:07:10
I really didn’t like Salah comments about not needing to fight for his place… promises broken but that was based on actually performing! First time properly dropped and he wants to leave!
Now, he may look at gakpo but perhaps he defends more? can't back the player over the manger, sets terrible president. But Slots may well need to go aswell.

07 Dec 2025 16:15:51
Could he have privately dropped him?

07 Dec 2025 16:39:53
I just think it’s so unfortunate that Salah’s Liverpool career is ending this way, because he was a wonderful player for so many years.

But To paraphrase Ed002, all footballers are transient employees and We don’t know what’s gone on behind the scenes.

He probably does feel hard done by to a degree. Understandable maybe when there are a couple of other players selected week in, week out who have been shockingly poor.

What one of us hasn’t said something borne out of frustration in the heat of the moment.

I don’t think anybody is going to come out well from this. Salah, Hughes or Slot.

Before we sharpen the knives for him, just remember how good he was up until this season.

07 Dec 2025 17:38:47
A fella on obscene money, gets dropped for a few games and feels the need to talk to the press about it, even though his form hasn't been anywhere near as close to what we'd expect of them?

This is going to get very messy, how did we get to this point, after those amazing scenes last May? Ali on top of the crossbar in front of the Kop, seems like a long time ago now.

07 Dec 2025 14:51:50
Not that I think it would be a good idea before anyone says so…. But, how is Robert Page thought of internally? Current under 21’s manager I believe.

07 Dec 2025 15:06:54
Hopefully your not trolling.
He passed away mate.

07 Dec 2025 15:19:10
Joey are you getting confused with Matt Beard?

Robert page hasn’t passed mate.

07 Dec 2025 15:22:43
JoeyTheRed3, you're mixing him up with Matt Beard, who sadly passed in September.

07 Dec 2025 16:08:38
Ah,
Embarrassing on my behalf.
My apologies!

07 Dec 2025 16:04:07
Joey the red has had a mare hahaha google is your mate hahahah!

07 Dec 2025 17:47:52
Wasn't he in Led Zeppelin?

07 Dec 2025 14:08:30
To the Eds, is Klopp coming back a possibility or just definitely not going to happen?

{Ed025's Note - we really dont know mate..

07 Dec 2025 14:51:58
I think after last night's bombshell, it's even less likely.

07 Dec 2025 17:00:50
Would you leave a dream job where you get paid 10+ mil a year to work from your beautiful new paradise home in sunny Mallorca to move back to a dreary, damp, wet and windy city on a 6 month contract, try and rescue a tragically underperforming club who are under the greatest amount of scrutiny they've ever seen?

07 Dec 2025 19:22:16
And why would Klopp come back, exactly with the club in such turmoil?