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15 Aug 2017 21:26:23
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07 Aug 2017 08:26:07
Ed1 you say you like klopp style of play etc but say you don't like his behaviour in transfers but I Can't get my head round why this is all klopp fault. Lfc have done this for years predating both manager and owners so who exactly is it that persists with this starting point for transfer negotiations? Yes klopp hasn't been gray this seasons transfers but Surely FSG have been here long enough and are involved enough to sort this mess out and appoint people who know football and can negotiate smarter and without crossing lines. As you say ed1 we are lfc and that is a major attraction so why do we resort to behaviour like this? Bafflingly we have not learnt from our past!

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{Ed001's Note - I do not care what happened before, that is no excuse for him to continually act the way he has. I fail to see that you have any point other than to deflect from Klopp's failings. I like Klopp but he has caused us a lot of problems in transfer dealings. That needs to be addressed by him, as well as the club. No point saying that is the way it has been done for years, each season is a chance to start anew.}


1.) 07 Aug 2017 08:47:07
My point is that as the club has done it for years major change in mentality / staff / both needs to happen I can't work out why we haven't learnt and why smart business people like fsg have not got a handle on it or is just that they publically say it's embarrassing and privately advocate it in which case they should be shamed too.

{Ed001's Note - and my point is that Klopp has also done so and not learnt, so this is not just down to the club so he cannot be excused.}


2.) 07 Aug 2017 08:50:04
One of the most dangerous sentences I know: we have always done it that way.


3.) 07 Aug 2017 08:50:15
Has he been told by the owners to cop himself on?

{Ed001's Note - the owners brought in a new man to make changes.}


4.) 07 Aug 2017 09:24:48
I'm a fan of Klopp but he is not bullet proof like most fans make out. The guy makes mistakes and is not above being questioned or criticised. The other day a pundit described him as a top class manager but not world class. As world class managers win things most seasons. Klopp has shown ambition by coming to us and not a bigger club, but he is paid 7 mill a year to bring us success. Our side under Klopp are absolutely scintillating going forward but defensively we are still weak and we are still yet to come up with a plan b of beating teams who park the bus.


5.) 07 Aug 2017 09:28:11
When? I have never said l klopp isn't to blame and again the point I am making is that it is lfc (that includes managers owners and employees) to blame so don't bash one element especially when publicalky lfc have not restored any faith other than an embarrassing apology.
Klopp behaviour terrible
Lfc transfer dealings in general and for quite some time disgusting
International business men at the helm of the club disgracefully shambolic
Lfc reputation in the gutter
l.

{Ed002's Note - Why do people want to bring up this same thing over and over again? Move on.}


6.) 07 Aug 2017 09:59:16
OP, stop defending the indefensible. If everyone has been jumping off a cliff, does that mean that you should do it too? I love Klopp too and would not trade him for anyone BUT he is solely to blame for his own actions in the TW with the whole tapping up crap and this needs to be addressed, period. Enough with the illogical deflections cos it is now becoming very tiring.


7.) 07 Aug 2017 09:59:52
Presumably because fans would like to understand why since 2012 Dempsey if not before we have made these mistakes and not learnt. It would be nice for this not to be an issue but it is. For the first time in years we've been linked to a top player who has publicly chosen us ahead of other teams right up there in the mix and our behaviour has all but stopped this (little if no chance of happening now) spoke to carra back on 7th June when it was all but a done deal and he said whilst it'd be great he thought something wasn't right and to . The following day it all collapsed. Of all the lfc connected people I spoke to that day only ha and Tommo suggested it wouldn't happen.
If lfc clean up there act maybe it wouldn't be a discussion point but they do so that's why and I think like most things in football we'll never find out if or how it's dealt with but as the game of football fans want to understand what's happening at their clubs.

It'll be lovely if it's sorted and we can just discuss pros and cons of ins and out but while this shambles continues every window you'll still get people asking if you know anything re how it's being addressed.

Great work by all the eds but as this is a transfer issue don't expect not to be asked about it when it keeps happening and we can't see how it will change.


8.) 07 Aug 2017 10:13:55
Klopp is a good coach and I'm happy he's at our club, but I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of his mouth. He says things to appease the fans when in reality Klopp does what Klopp wants. If you have actually listened to everything that has been said by him since he arrived he has contradicted himself so many times.


9.) 07 Aug 2017 10:26:37
Woluwe. If that is the case sack him. If you read the thread i am not defending anyone I was trying to see if the eds knew why is being done about it. they are all responsible to some extent ( is your boss not responsible for you) I just find it difficult to understand the extent of the issue and what is planned to resolve it. Who is the guy brought in to change things when did he come in and if it was or this saga I think it hasn't worked.

There are loads of threads whacking klop and that's fair his behaviour is terrible and not in line with lfc o was brought up on.


 

 

 

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18 Aug 2017 16:16:44
Why if a) they want to keep the player or b) they think this under values the player?

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11 Aug 2017 22:31:32
He wants to leave and we are dealing with a very similar situation for an incoming player. Poss fsg setting a president i. e. U can't keep a player against his wishes when he wants to play for a specific team? Heard hoping lol.

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04 Aug 2017 15:14:45
I agree with ed2 re tapping up but why is klopp getting such a whack. We have been doing this for years (Fulham debacle anyone) my point being that personnel has changed but the tactics haven't or the leaks leading to our behaviour being so open would be my worry. We keep losing out because of the way we play the transfer market but why does our tact not change when staff is overhauled and where does the responsibility lie? If I were the owners that is what I would want answering but again this predates them too!

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18 Aug 2017 16:33:10
Replacement for Evans possibly.

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18 Aug 2017 16:24:03
To fill in for Evans probably.

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15 Aug 2017 21:37:29
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15 Aug 2017 21:27:41
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07 Aug 2017 10:26:37
Woluwe. If that is the case sack him. If you read the thread i am not defending anyone I was trying to see if the eds knew why is being done about it. they are all responsible to some extent ( is your boss not responsible for you) I just find it difficult to understand the extent of the issue and what is planned to resolve it. Who is the guy brought in to change things when did he come in and if it was or this saga I think it hasn't worked.

There are loads of threads whacking klop and that's fair his behaviour is terrible and not in line with lfc o was brought up on.

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