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08 Jan 2018 11:24:18
Do we genuinely have interest in Alisson?


{Ed002's Note - Roma has admitted an approach from one side (not Liverpool) and they know of interest of others - which may well include Liverpool, but certainly includes barcelona.}

1.) 08 Jan 2018 12:12:02
Thanks Ed. He looks like a very very good keeper. Hope we’re interested.

{Ed002's Note - I think there is interest and certainly he is well thought of having previously been of interest to the Manchester sides and Juve.}

2.) 08 Jan 2018 12:31:31
Would be a good shout. He’s big, agile and commands his area well. He is keeping Ederson out of the Brazil team so he is no mug.

3.) 08 Jan 2018 13:11:48
ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace.

4.) 08 Jan 2018 12:48:04
What are Barcas plans for ter stegan Ed? Would be difficult to keep 2 first choice keepers happy.

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page Den.}

5.) 08 Jan 2018 13:38:27
Even as a summer target, a good choice.

6.) 08 Jan 2018 14:20:11
If we're going to make a real challenge next year we've got to be in for a quality keeper. I'd add to that a new CB to play with VvD, a creative type midfielder to replace little Phil (you all know the options by now), another midfield pivot to play alongside Keita and another striker - we'd look a little short up top if we had long term injuries. So 5 1st team additions - good enough to go straight in the team.

I'm assuming 1 or 2 of our current keepers will be allowed to find new clubs (Migs and Bogdan? ) + Can (shame - always liked his endeavour) and Sturridge. Possibly Wijnaldum and Ings may also be considered surplus + 1 of Lovren or Matip.

Obviously there may also be others leaving which I assume will help with FFP and getting those 5 new faces in.

Here's hoping. Either way I trust Klopp to do what he can with the tools at his disposal. I just won't understand it if he doesn't prioritise a new keeper. C'mon Jurgen - you played centre half - you must know the significance of a quality, organising, brave keeper? Makes the whole back line better.

7.) 08 Jan 2018 14:27:10
I still think we’ve missed a chance with Ward. Question for the Ed’s, I know it has been said on here that Ward isn’t happy and wants to go somewhere where he will play, but do you know what the view of him at the club is? Do the coaches rate him as a potential EPL keeper? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Well it seems Klopp has apparently told him he will be number one in the future. But I suspect he was fibbing. Typically clubs will use older experienced goalkeepers as third choice and have them giving advice and working with the youth and younger goalkeepers - but that is not how it works at Liverpool.

He is third choice right now and needs to look to move on in the summer.}

8.) 08 Jan 2018 14:31:08

‘ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace. ’

Ummm. Liverpool and Coutinho? ;) just joking but your post made me chuckle.

9.) 08 Jan 2018 14:45:47
I think that was the point SGR!

10.) 08 Jan 2018 15:06:58
Thanks Ed002, big shame about him not getting that chance. Out of interest is there a deliberate policy of 3 relatively younger keepers or just how it has worked out?

{Ed002's Note - I think you will find two of Liverpool's four registered PL GKs are around 30.}

11.) 08 Jan 2018 15:32:20
Hope you’re well Ed.

I have heard a rumour from a deep source that Klopp wasn’t fibbing to Ward, but it’s actually the players attitude since arriving back at the club that has cost him a first team place, or at least a shot at it. Not sure how true this is though.

{Ed002's Note - So why would Klopp tell him he will be number one? His attitude probably relates to a very good loan being destroyed by Klopp (who then didn't play him) and the a season long loan being rejected by Klopp (who then didn't play him). Klopp then tells him he is number 3 (so the chance to sit on the bench in the League Cup) and then Klopp tells him he will be number one in the future. There appears to be a trend here.}

12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:39:19
Ward, Bogdan and Mingolet all need to leave for various reasons. Obviously not all at once.

Wish Ward well he will be a top keeper.

13.) 08 Jan 2018 15:53:44
I don't like what Klopp's done with Ward, but he could fix the situation by playing the lad. I mean, it's not like Mignolet or Karius have set the world alight here. Sure, throwing him in at the deep end wouldn't be fair, but he at least deserves a start somewhere.

{Ed002's Note - He deserved to stay in Scotland and then deserved time playing for the first team at Huddersfield. I don't think he will get the chance at Liverpool Amerigo.}

14.) 08 Jan 2018 15:55:14
A fair point well presented Ed. A shame as the boy has definitely played well during his loan spells.

Are you going to promise me a starting position in the charity match and then bench me instead.?

{Ed002's Note - I need to get on to that - I am running around for other reasons for a few days but at the end of the week I will be on to it. Or my PA will.}

15.) 08 Jan 2018 17:11:16
Says something that Mignolet is so far from where you expect an experienced keeper to be that I’d forgotten he is is almost 30 already.

16.) 09 Jan 2018 17:25:20
Was obvious from the start the decision on Ward was a poor one, he could have played a full prem season with huddersfield (and a starting position in prem is a very rare opportunity for a young keeper) .

If he’d performed we could bring him back in the summer as no.1 with a full year of experience and prem tested, as it is we have no idea if he can cope. Feel very sorry for the lad.




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06 Feb 2018 12:02:15
It's such a strange feeling to be a Liverpool fan right now. At the start of the season (and probably at the mid-point of the season too) we would have happily taken being 3rd in the EPL above Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal with a third of the season to go and to be in the knockout stages of the ECL. We've added a colossal defender in VVD and have seen the steady improvement of Firmino, Gomez and Trent-Alexander. We have also seen the dynamite impact of Mo Salah and the slight improvement at left back with Robertson and Moreno. However, I think what unnerves me personally is that it seems to take multiple windows to address one problem position whilst poor squad/ recruitment planning leaves us adding more problem positions to deal with. ie we fix one position, and two more positions become a problem. I understand Klopp giving everyone a chance but by the 3rd window he should have addressed GK and CB positions. Our midfield has regressed severely this season with a mix of sales (Phil, Lucas), poor form/ consistency (Emre, Gini) and injuries (Hendo, Lallana, Grujic) and despite Keita incoming in the summer it feels like we still need two more there at least. Add the fact that Mane has been playing below his ability it's pretty incredible that we're in 3rd place! So yeah, I am feeling a bit schizophrenic about LFC at the moment.


1.) 06 Feb 2018 13:32:21
Welcome to football in the real world!
Players come and players go. Players get injured or ill and lose form, some players live up to the expectations, some don't. Players can be deemed good enough until an upgrade suddenly becomes available (ie VvD) .
It's filled with constantly changing variables, that's what makes it exciting.

2.) 06 Feb 2018 14:18:49
Colossal vvd? Ha remind me how many clean sheets does he have? Not hating on vvd he's a good player but I don't think he's going to turn out to be the messiah, bit like klopp.

3.) 06 Feb 2018 14:54:32
I reckon once this coming summer transfer window is complete, we will have a squad capable of challenging for the title.

Keita already done, we will sign another CM as Can is leaving. We are looking at GK's and probably we will get another RB as Clyne's days are looking like coming to an end and another forward.

Finishing top 4 this season, getting as far as possible in the CL will be progress for me.

Next season we will need to see some silverware delivered though.

4.) 06 Feb 2018 15:13:52
maxlfc - like your optimism but the last 4/ 5 windows suggest we won't fix GK, CDM, CM and playmaker positions in a single window. That means we'll be carrying at last one or two of these weaknesses into next season.

dublingunner - colossus means giant, not messiah.

5.) 06 Feb 2018 16:20:58

Our squad is finally taking shape since Klopp took over. Compare it to the squad Klopp took over from Brendan and it is like night and day.

This coming summer the club will spend big again on bringing in the players Klopp wants.

The one thing that makes me confident is that Klopp makes use of the players he signs unlike in many, many, many previous windows where we have seen players arrive with no positive outcome.

This summer is going to be a massive on for LFC to add the missing pieces to the puzzle. Hopefully Klopp is the manager to finally get things right.

6.) 06 Feb 2018 16:25:12
FlyP - it will be a different transfer window than the last few. If we get in the top 4 we will make some quality additions. VVD and Keita were last summers deals (or they better be) . So I expect us to try and solve all our remaining issues, starting with the keeper, midfield and maybe 1 defender. I also fully expect many players to leave.

7.) 06 Feb 2018 18:52:41
Dub, in, I did not know VVD plays defence, CDM, and GK by himself so how is he responsible for us not keeping a clean sheet? Also, no one is saying VVD or Klopp is the messiah. We are just happy to have a manager who is making us relevant again, one your own manager can't beat, and a player who will help us get better defensively.

8.) 06 Feb 2018 19:03:22
Max - as I said love your optimism. But I don’t think there’s ever been a transfer window at LFC whereby 3/ 4 problem positions have been resolved in one fell swoop. We may have the money but evidence of our recruitment suggests we go into next season with at least two major weaknesses unresolved. ‭

Mark - as above.

Do you really believe LFC is capable of executing a window that would recruit a no1, no6, no7 and a no8?

9.) 06 Feb 2018 21:02:52
once VVD has a much needed pre - season, he will be brilliant, Kieta will be brilliant, if we can bring in an elite Keeper, he will be brilliant,
you see where I am going with this,
Liverpool will be brilliant next season .

10.) 06 Feb 2018 22:17:55
Keita will be number 8

so a keeper and 2 top outfield players is very possible.

11.) 07 Feb 2018 01:14:29
Should go and sign Doucoure from watford. He is what we need in the middle alongside Kieta.



03 Feb 2018 22:43:19
Petro Canada Lubricant to add to the donuts, face cream and money gram sponsors. Not sure publicly announcing it straight after the a faction of the fanbase is still annoyed by the events of the winter window.




23 Jan 2018 16:38:17
Ed001, is the overcoaching stifling the ability of midfielders to be able to dictate and change the rhythm and tempo in PL games?

Also, was the footbonaut (used at Dortmund) actually a useful training tool or is it indicative that we didn't bother installing one as it's overrated?

Most of our midfielders need two or three touches before it is passed. That seems to be one of our biggest deficiencies when playing against teams who are setup with a low block - which is about half of the teams in the PL right now.


{Ed001's Note - it really depends on the coaching. You could overcoach someone in many ways. The issue is that they are stifled in their decision making into being robotic and not being able to surprise opponents.

One of the keys to the likes of George Best being unstoppable at times was their ability to do the unexpected. That does not mean he could dictate rhythm or tempo, though he could have been coached to do so. What overcoaching would have done in his case would be to remove that unpredictability he possessed.

In general the problem with overcoaching is that players will not change their approach during games on the fly. They will just rigidly keep doing what they are told until they receive new instructions.

The problem stems from youth levels rather than first team football though to be honest. They are often coached by people who are looking to rise through the ranks and so are more interested in results than developing young players. So fear of making mistakes ends up instilled in the players and what you see as a result are players constantly taking the safe option.

As for the footbonaut, like any training tool it is only a tool and as useful as you make it. It is like a wall. Do you just use it as a tool to keep people out of your area or do you play games using a ball and the wall to develop your touch and technique as well with it? It always comes down to the user how useful or otherwise a tool actually is. It is a highly expensive bit of kit, so you would only buy one if it is necessary.

As for the midfield and lots of touches, that is endemic throughout the team and more down to a mental attitude problem. On days when the intensity is high they will look to play the ball first or second touch. On days like yesterday, they will dwell on the ball and take more touches looking for the right pass, rather than just moving it quickly in order to keep the opposition moving until the right pass presents itself.}

1.) 23 Jan 2018 17:45:35
Thanks Ed!

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

2.) 23 Jan 2018 18:38:38
Good question great answer. When Ed001s on form, which is most of the time to be fair, he's like a well lubricated Alan Hansen.

{Ed001's Note - thanks I think.}

3.) 23 Jan 2018 18:59:43
Have you done a match review yet ed001.

{Ed001's Note - oh gosh no I forgot, I will get cracking on it now.}

4.) 23 Jan 2018 19:02:12
Great response ed001 and I think you are on to something. Using a wall for touch and technique. Maybe if they used the wall it would teach to play with your head up scanning around and spotting the best pass because they have the confidence and awareness of the ball at their feet.

May be old school but at the younger ages could prove useful as they grow and develop.

{Ed001's Note - there are lots of things they do, but mostly it comes down to not telling a kid off for making mistakes. Let them make mistakes and they will learn for themselves that it doesn't work and try something else. It is about giving them confidence to try new things.}

5.) 23 Jan 2018 19:22:21
An excellent post there Ed1. Would love to read your opinion in in a match review.

{Ed001's Note - I am trying to get it done now mate.}

6.) 23 Jan 2018 19:36:11
Nice read that Ed. Can't agree enough. I can think of Hendo and Wij in our midfield who play it too safe.

{Ed001's Note - very much so.}

7.) 23 Jan 2018 20:54:26
Very good advice that Ed. Especially with the youngsters, I will try to use some of it myself.

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

8.) 24 Jan 2018 08:43:20
I remember being coached by an ex pro (since deceased) who moved into coaching at a football summer camp when I was about 14.

It was only 5 days long, I was the best youth player at my club, was about 14 and going through a tough time both at home and at school.

He literally killed my confidence on day 1, constantly screaming at me to do things that were unnatural to me and when I played a great pass at one point, he ran up behind me and said something like "that was an accident wasn't it? "

I'll never forget it, but it made me work so bloody hard in the remaining days and it motivated me to do better and exactly as he told me, so much so that I won player of the camp at the end and even beat him in the vast majority of skill games we had to do.

He respected me by the end, but I believe he over-coached me personally and I never was the same player after really, maybe it was because I discovered girls though :)

It's the worst thing you can do in my opinion as a coach (over-coach a young impressionable player), but what do I know lol?!



03 Jan 2018 15:06:08
Silly season is in full flight! Whilst Phil is our best player, I don't think he's our most crucial (Firmino) or in-form (Salah) . I like the look of Lemar and wouldn't be against signing him but I do think he's very expensive. I wonder whether Nabil Fekir or Ante Coric would be more Coutinho-esque? Also, a path for Woodburn needs to be considered - he's got the talent.


1.) 03 Jan 2018 15:45:25
I like Fekir, but i don't want to sign him because i have a very young child who is going to hear his name and pronounce it incorrectly. Aside from that, he'd be a class replacement. Coric is not ready yet.

I'm more than happy with Lemar though. If we had Lemar creating down the left side of midfield, Chambo creating down the right the right side of midfield, Mane-Firmino-Salah up top, and Keita launching attacks from deep and mopping anything loose up, we'll be as good as City going forward. Anything Pep can do, Klopp can do better 😂 If Fernandinho, De Bruyne and Silva works, then I'm confident Keita, Lemar and Chamberlain will work too. As Lemar and Chamberlain are much better defensively than De Bruyne and Silva, and Keita despite being a B2B player like Fernandinho, is a better tackler. Plus Mane, Firmino and Salah are at least as good as Sterling, Jesus and Sane. Maybe better?

Pep has proven this season that the best way to defend is to petrify the opposition into staying in their own half. Teams start games against City already thinking about damage limitation. I say we set up so teams do the same against us.

2.) 03 Jan 2018 16:05:50
I don't disagree there. With the possibility of VVD (and maybe even Akanji) being able to start attacks from deep or carry the ball forward the need for a deep lying playmaker reduces. If we get a keeper that can kick a bit better than the ones we have today we'll also have an option to start attacks from deep that way too. But, I do think that we'd miss that bit of jaw dropping skill that Phil offers. You know that "WTF was that? " thing we see at the moment. I think a Fekir/ Coric could provide that touch of magic over and above a Lemar/ Ox.

3.) 03 Jan 2018 16:21:50
I'd say Lemar has a moment of magic in him to be fair. Some of the goals he scores are unreal.

4.) 04 Jan 2018 15:31:22
Totally agree, Adam. My boy's 5 and I'm not ready for him to be lauding Fekir just yet!

Lemar would be a great signing, and I like the look of that midfield/ front 3. We have players to come in to support too at the moment. I'd love to add Goretzka as an option from midfield, and I hope that Ojo's spell at Fulham means we can use him from the bench as support to Mane and Salah. I've a suspicion that TAA will be spending more time in the middle of the park in the next couple of seasons too.

Another CB (as I expect Joe toe make RB his own), and a GK and we'll be in a good position.

Sessegnon would be a great addition too, as he's more in the Moreno build (attacking) but has a far higher ceiling.



26 Nov 2017 20:33:03
I remember a while ago we were linked with Sergi Samper. I think he’s on loan at Las Palmas this season. I know La Liga is not the PL but he’s got great passing range - short and long. With young Allan unlikely to get a work permit and Barcelona wanting Phil I wonder whether there’s an opportunity to get the young deep lying playmaker?


1.) 26 Nov 2017 20:50:57
If we need any type of midfielder, it should be a DM which will allow Hendo to play the other CM role where his ability and athleticism to press the oppo. will be very useful.

2.) 26 Nov 2017 21:11:55
I do agree we need a DM but I also feel that we need someone that has a bit more passing range than we have. A lot of our mids are runners and pressers which is fine against mid-low end teams but in a top clash you need that ability to turn defence into attack with a pass rather than a dribble. Let the ball do a bit of work too ;)

3.) 27 Nov 2017 05:59:47
Paredes could be a good option to replace Henderson as our deepest midfielder. Likes to play through balls to kick start counter attacks and is a good tackler with aggression.




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02 Mar 2018 12:08:13
I’d get both Torreira and Jorginho! Do it!




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25 Feb 2018 10:43:10
I’d love to see a Torreira Jorginho Keita midfield! Perfect mixture of tenacity, technique, energy and passion. Torreira and Jorginho would give us the Xabi-Mascher combo with Keita able to maraud like Stevie.




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24 Feb 2018 21:55:14
Now we’re talking! Hope so.




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08 Jan 2018 13:38:27
Even as a summer target, a good choice.




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08 Jan 2018 12:12:02
Thanks Ed. He looks like a very very good keeper. Hope we’re interested.


{Ed002's Note - I think there is interest and certainly he is well thought of having previously been of interest to the Manchester sides and Juve.}




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19 Feb 2018 14:03:55
Whilst Torreira doesn’t match Doucoure or Dendoncker in height he’s a snarly and tough little chap who loves a tackle and pretty useful passer. Has a bit of Mascherano Medel Veratti about him.


{Ed001's Note - I have not seen him play.}



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19 Feb 2018 13:45:49
It does appear that Sessegnon is evolving into a pretty formidable wide attacker ala Bale.




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19 Feb 2018 13:41:13
Thanks Ed. Doucoure has really hit the ground running in the PL. I don't know much about his mentality or game intelligence but his ability is there for all to see. Must admit I don't know much about Fredericks apart from he's a former Spurs academy player so will keep an eye out. Thanks again!


{Ed001's Note - Fredericks is very attacking.}



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19 Feb 2018 12:37:31
Spot on Ed001. I know you're a fan of Ndidi and Mendy at Leicester but are there any others you think are viable and a good fit. I like the look of Jorginho, Torreira and Dendoncker but I don't think we've shown any interest in them either. And at right bac apart from Pereira, are there any others we're looking at?


{Ed001's Note - Jorginho is one I particularly like but I think we would be better with the more combative type, such as Doucoure. There have been a few right backs looked at, though most are unlikely to be options this summer, Fredericks of Fulham could well be possible, he is of interest.}



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18 Feb 2018 13:13:25
I’d be shocked if Hendo is our first choice no6 next season, club captain or not. His body is failing him and that position is absolutely vital in a 433. We need to de-risk that position.

I’ll extend that concern to Lallana too. He’s been injured for at least half of his LFC career.

Time to improve the reliability and robustness of the squad.