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08 Jan 2018 11:24:18
Do we genuinely have interest in Alisson?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - Roma has admitted an approach from one side (not Liverpool) and they know of interest of others - which may well include Liverpool, but certainly includes barcelona.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 12:12:02
Thanks Ed. He looks like a very very good keeper. Hope we’re interested.

{Ed002's Note - I think there is interest and certainly he is well thought of having previously been of interest to the Manchester sides and Juve.}


2.) 08 Jan 2018 12:31:31
Would be a good shout. He’s big, agile and commands his area well. He is keeping Ederson out of the Brazil team so he is no mug.


3.) 08 Jan 2018 13:11:48
ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace.


4.) 08 Jan 2018 12:48:04
What are Barcas plans for ter stegan Ed? Would be difficult to keep 2 first choice keepers happy.

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page Den.}


5.) 08 Jan 2018 13:38:27
Even as a summer target, a good choice.


6.) 08 Jan 2018 14:20:11
If we're going to make a real challenge next year we've got to be in for a quality keeper. I'd add to that a new CB to play with VvD, a creative type midfielder to replace little Phil (you all know the options by now), another midfield pivot to play alongside Keita and another striker - we'd look a little short up top if we had long term injuries. So 5 1st team additions - good enough to go straight in the team.

I'm assuming 1 or 2 of our current keepers will be allowed to find new clubs (Migs and Bogdan? ) + Can (shame - always liked his endeavour) and Sturridge. Possibly Wijnaldum and Ings may also be considered surplus + 1 of Lovren or Matip.

Obviously there may also be others leaving which I assume will help with FFP and getting those 5 new faces in.

Here's hoping. Either way I trust Klopp to do what he can with the tools at his disposal. I just won't understand it if he doesn't prioritise a new keeper. C'mon Jurgen - you played centre half - you must know the significance of a quality, organising, brave keeper? Makes the whole back line better.


7.) 08 Jan 2018 14:27:10
I still think we’ve missed a chance with Ward. Question for the Ed’s, I know it has been said on here that Ward isn’t happy and wants to go somewhere where he will play, but do you know what the view of him at the club is? Do the coaches rate him as a potential EPL keeper? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Well it seems Klopp has apparently told him he will be number one in the future. But I suspect he was fibbing. Typically clubs will use older experienced goalkeepers as third choice and have them giving advice and working with the youth and younger goalkeepers - but that is not how it works at Liverpool.

He is third choice right now and needs to look to move on in the summer.}


8.) 08 Jan 2018 14:31:08
Danny.

‘ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace. ’

Ummm. Liverpool and Coutinho? ;) just joking but your post made me chuckle.


9.) 08 Jan 2018 14:45:47
I think that was the point SGR!


10.) 08 Jan 2018 15:06:58
Thanks Ed002, big shame about him not getting that chance. Out of interest is there a deliberate policy of 3 relatively younger keepers or just how it has worked out?

{Ed002's Note - I think you will find two of Liverpool's four registered PL GKs are around 30.}


11.) 08 Jan 2018 15:32:20
Hope you’re well Ed.

I have heard a rumour from a deep source that Klopp wasn’t fibbing to Ward, but it’s actually the players attitude since arriving back at the club that has cost him a first team place, or at least a shot at it. Not sure how true this is though.

{Ed002's Note - So why would Klopp tell him he will be number one? His attitude probably relates to a very good loan being destroyed by Klopp (who then didn't play him) and the a season long loan being rejected by Klopp (who then didn't play him). Klopp then tells him he is number 3 (so the chance to sit on the bench in the League Cup) and then Klopp tells him he will be number one in the future. There appears to be a trend here.}


12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:39:19
Ward, Bogdan and Mingolet all need to leave for various reasons. Obviously not all at once.

Wish Ward well he will be a top keeper.


13.) 08 Jan 2018 15:53:44
I don't like what Klopp's done with Ward, but he could fix the situation by playing the lad. I mean, it's not like Mignolet or Karius have set the world alight here. Sure, throwing him in at the deep end wouldn't be fair, but he at least deserves a start somewhere.

{Ed002's Note - He deserved to stay in Scotland and then deserved time playing for the first team at Huddersfield. I don't think he will get the chance at Liverpool Amerigo.}


14.) 08 Jan 2018 15:55:14
A fair point well presented Ed. A shame as the boy has definitely played well during his loan spells.

Are you going to promise me a starting position in the charity match and then bench me instead.?

{Ed002's Note - I need to get on to that - I am running around for other reasons for a few days but at the end of the week I will be on to it. Or my PA will.}


15.) 08 Jan 2018 17:11:16
Says something that Mignolet is so far from where you expect an experienced keeper to be that I’d forgotten he is is almost 30 already.


16.) 09 Jan 2018 17:25:20
Was obvious from the start the decision on Ward was a poor one, he could have played a full prem season with huddersfield (and a starting position in prem is a very rare opportunity for a young keeper) .

If he’d performed we could bring him back in the summer as no.1 with a full year of experience and prem tested, as it is we have no idea if he can cope. Feel very sorry for the lad.


 

 

 

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03 Jan 2018 15:06:08
Silly season is in full flight! Whilst Phil is our best player, I don't think he's our most crucial (Firmino) or in-form (Salah) . I like the look of Lemar and wouldn't be against signing him but I do think he's very expensive. I wonder whether Nabil Fekir or Ante Coric would be more Coutinho-esque? Also, a path for Woodburn needs to be considered - he's got the talent.

FlyPelicanFly

1.) 03 Jan 2018 15:45:25
I like Fekir, but i don't want to sign him because i have a very young child who is going to hear his name and pronounce it incorrectly. Aside from that, he'd be a class replacement. Coric is not ready yet.

I'm more than happy with Lemar though. If we had Lemar creating down the left side of midfield, Chambo creating down the right the right side of midfield, Mane-Firmino-Salah up top, and Keita launching attacks from deep and mopping anything loose up, we'll be as good as City going forward. Anything Pep can do, Klopp can do better 😂 If Fernandinho, De Bruyne and Silva works, then I'm confident Keita, Lemar and Chamberlain will work too. As Lemar and Chamberlain are much better defensively than De Bruyne and Silva, and Keita despite being a B2B player like Fernandinho, is a better tackler. Plus Mane, Firmino and Salah are at least as good as Sterling, Jesus and Sane. Maybe better?

Pep has proven this season that the best way to defend is to petrify the opposition into staying in their own half. Teams start games against City already thinking about damage limitation. I say we set up so teams do the same against us.


2.) 03 Jan 2018 16:05:50
I don't disagree there. With the possibility of VVD (and maybe even Akanji) being able to start attacks from deep or carry the ball forward the need for a deep lying playmaker reduces. If we get a keeper that can kick a bit better than the ones we have today we'll also have an option to start attacks from deep that way too. But, I do think that we'd miss that bit of jaw dropping skill that Phil offers. You know that "WTF was that? " thing we see at the moment. I think a Fekir/ Coric could provide that touch of magic over and above a Lemar/ Ox.


3.) 03 Jan 2018 16:21:50
I'd say Lemar has a moment of magic in him to be fair. Some of the goals he scores are unreal.


4.) 04 Jan 2018 15:31:22
Totally agree, Adam. My boy's 5 and I'm not ready for him to be lauding Fekir just yet!

Lemar would be a great signing, and I like the look of that midfield/ front 3. We have players to come in to support too at the moment. I'd love to add Goretzka as an option from midfield, and I hope that Ojo's spell at Fulham means we can use him from the bench as support to Mane and Salah. I've a suspicion that TAA will be spending more time in the middle of the park in the next couple of seasons too.

Another CB (as I expect Joe toe make RB his own), and a GK and we'll be in a good position.

Sessegnon would be a great addition too, as he's more in the Moreno build (attacking) but has a far higher ceiling.


 

 

26 Nov 2017 20:33:03
I remember a while ago we were linked with Sergi Samper. I think he’s on loan at Las Palmas this season. I know La Liga is not the PL but he’s got great passing range - short and long. With young Allan unlikely to get a work permit and Barcelona wanting Phil I wonder whether there’s an opportunity to get the young deep lying playmaker?

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1.) 26 Nov 2017 20:50:57
If we need any type of midfielder, it should be a DM which will allow Hendo to play the other CM role where his ability and athleticism to press the oppo. will be very useful.


2.) 26 Nov 2017 21:11:55
I do agree we need a DM but I also feel that we need someone that has a bit more passing range than we have. A lot of our mids are runners and pressers which is fine against mid-low end teams but in a top clash you need that ability to turn defence into attack with a pass rather than a dribble. Let the ball do a bit of work too ;)


3.) 27 Nov 2017 05:59:47
Paredes could be a good option to replace Henderson as our deepest midfielder. Likes to play through balls to kick start counter attacks and is a good tackler with aggression.


 

 

05 Oct 2017 09:21:28
Personally I think Klopp is the right man for Liverpool. He's not perfect but then nor is our relatively inexperienced (in footballing terms) senior management team.

Klopp gets us. He recognises the yearning for success. He acknowledges the hysteria that comes with our often misguided expectations. He instantly identified the "doubters" needed to be turned into "believers". He gets us and he does so with a smile, passion and intensity. Which other managers would deal with the constant hysteria? Klopp clearly has a vision on how he wants to win and had his targets in the summer - Keita, VVD, Brandt, Sessegnon - to take us closer to that vision. We couldn't argue with that list really could we? Yes we mucked it up as a club with the press leaks. Yes Klopp had a big role in mucking it up with the tapping up. But he's steadfastly stuck to his vision which is not something we've had in a very long time.

He has made mistakes. The tapping up aside, there is the loyalty shown to Mignolet and Lovren which results-wise has been suicidal. The dropping of Karius last season in reaction to the media pressure (although some of that might have been down to our fans too to be honest) . The weak CB signings in Matip and Klavan and the poor planning around Mane's AFCON absence. But at the same time he hasn't done what other previous managers have done - conduct a massive turnover of staff from summer to summer. We're building slowly. Did we improve last summer? Yes, we added pace in Mane, more variety in midfield with Gini, a promising GK to rival Mignolet and a centre-back that is better than Martin Skrtel. Could we have done better? Yes most definitely. Do we have a better squad than last season? Yes, we have additional pace and width in Salah/ Ox, more strength at full-back in TAA, Robertson and a reborn Moreno. Could we have done better? Yes most, definitely.

Had Phil gone and we got all of our targets this summer - we could be lining up with Karius/ Migs, TAA/ Gomez, Matip/ Gomez, VVD, Sessegnon, Keita/ Lallana, Emre/ Hendo, Lamar, Mane, Firmino, Salah/ Ox. That looks like the start of a formidable team to me.

Lastly don't forget Klopp has taken a very careful approach to dealing with high-profile players that he probably would have preferred to replace. For example, I am pretty sure Klopp didn't plan for Henderson being re-invented into a no6 but he was the club captain and that is not something you can change overnight. Add to that his injuries as well as Emre's injury woes is it any wonder the DM/ no6 position is constantly talked about here? I am also sure that he'd love to sign a no9 but with Sturridge, Ings, Balotelli and Origi on the books has meant that would be difficult too without a big turnover.


#KloppIn.

FlyPelicanFly

1.) 05 Oct 2017 10:22:28
Very good post mate, I am in full agreement with you.


2.) 05 Oct 2017 11:13:19
Fair post FPF.
I have often heard him say "we have 4 strikers/ CBs, so how many can we use? "
He's under pressure to balance the books at times, Balotelli being a prime example.

It's like any business, you go to your boss for money to replace something that's not gone yet and you're told wait until it's kaput!

We can't just stockpile players like certain other clubs.
It has happened with us before on a smaller scale and we couldn't move the unwanted players later, which holds up future incoming transfers.

I think people fail to remember that at times.
But to counter that, I think our squad is quite thin on quality personally.

1 - We have a big goalkeeper problem.
2 - We have a big Center Back problem.
3 - We have a Full Back problem.
4 - We have a big Defensive minded Midfield problem.
5 - We have a Central Striker problem.

So I hope to see these issues addressed in the next two windows with both ins and outs.

{Ed002's Note - It looks like a big Manager problem you have found there given that Klopp has added to fix all of these problems.}


3.) 05 Oct 2017 11:31:39
Nah, he's fixed quite a few issues for me.
One step at a time, can't keep transitioning every summer over and over again - there's no panic.
He has plenty of time hopefully.

Not bothered about promises made to owners either.
Promises never get fulfilled and I think they're intelligent enough business men to know that it's not likely to happen in the near future unless they're delusional.

I'm only saying what I see and what many others see.
Perhaps he can "fix" the individual players like he seems to have done with Moreno, so not as many purchases/ sales are needed - only time will tell and he should be given it as he did take us up the table last season with a bang average squad.

Nobody will change my mind on the fact that he's a good manager and he deserves a season or two to fix these things!


4.) 05 Oct 2017 12:39:07
He hasn't fixed a lot at all tbh, the keeper situation is a joke, rotating the worst 2 keepers and keeping Ward in the stands is poor, buying a stop gap cb and not getting better cbs in, is poor, not getting a cdm in, poor, getting rid of a better cb than what we have now, poor, not teaching tactics to protect a very vulnerable defence, poor, not having a 20 goal a season cf, poor, we were level with the top clubs last season, they have sorted there issues out we have gone backwards, massively poor.


5.) 05 Oct 2017 13:29:32
Of course he has LR.
So you'd prefer Skrtel?
Brad Jones?
How do you know what he "teaches" in training?
A very uneducated guess is my opinion.
You need to get real buddy!


6.) 05 Oct 2017 16:45:25
Skrtel? was thinking more Sakho
Jones? was thinking more Ward, your about 3 season behind Olrish, Im guessing not a lot of tactical work is being done in training as positionally the cbs and centre mids are all over the place, Henderson especially never holds his central position, he leaves big gaps between Defence and midfield, he isn't disciplined at all, the cbs obviously aren't pulling him back into position and the keeper obviously isn't doing the same with the centre backs, I could martial that back line better than Migs or Karius, real enough for you.


7.) 05 Oct 2017 20:23:44
Great post, OP and OIrish. Lancaster, how do you know what happens and what does not happen in training? Do you have info to share on that front? That is just your opinion which Ed01 has debunked cos he has said repeatedly that the players work on the issues we have every day BUT when the games come, their heads just go and start screwing up. That is information and not opinion that the Ed gave us.

Also, how do you know Ward is better than Karius (we know Migs is crap)? You are aware that Ward is very inexperienced in the PL and like Karius who is learning the game in the PL, Ward will also make mistakes like any young GK will. What happens then? Should he be binned too and hounded off like Karius was as well? Cos you think Ward is better does not mean he is until he proves it and the same goes for Karius. Also, we scored 92 goals last season w/ o a striker so him not getting one is spot on as the system works to create chances and our boys have to improve their finishing. That is it.

You say that we have gone backwards under Klopp. In comparison to when? When Klopp arrived with the mess BR left us in? Last season when we made top four and Klopp got us CL footie by dismantling a Hoff team that Bayern till this day they can't beat? Or did he takes us back cos he lost 2 out of 13 games in all comps. this season? If the defence is your beef then you already lost the the argument as Sakho is a right bell, an average CB now and deserves the misery he will receive at CP with Woy for never apologizing for his atrocities and I'm glad Klopp got shot of him.

I understand what Klopp did and not go for players who won't fix the issues. You accused him of getting a stop gap in Matip at CB. Now you accuse Come on, man. him for NOT getting a stop gap at CB as VVD is who he wanted? So in your eyes, he can't win. See how hypocritical that is? Come on, man.


8.) 06 Oct 2017 08:10:50
What are you on about Bingo, they train for all situations, they train for tactical reason to know positions, they don't just kick a ball around and do some doggys, how have we not gone backwards when City and United especially saw there weaknesses and spent money on improving the position, Ward has looked more than confident compared to the others, had a very good season at Huddersfield and deserves more than a couple of cup games, Sakho would at least enjoy a tackle or challenge, Matip is a rake who could be blown over, FSG have the money or ambition required to get in what we need, the scouting team obviously aren't doing there jobs in finding more than VVD out there, Sakho isn't as good a defender as the others, come off, get your head out the clouds, I have faith in Klopp but he isn't addressing obvious problems, the team can't defend as a unit, Moreno has come from nowhere, Migs hasn't been top level since he came, what's going on with Robertson? Is a big threat in games, then doesn't play, Klopp is rotating too much and its affecting players.


9.) 06 Oct 2017 08:56:06
Lancaster,
Ward hasn't hardly played for us and you were talking about Klopp's supposed lack of improvement in personnel over the last 2 years mate which was why I brought up Jones and Skrtel who both only left about 18 months ago.
Jones was number 2 mate, now it's Karius currently - yes Karius is an upgrade.
Did you watch Skrtel last night?
Good og that wasn't it mate?!
Get real pal!


10.) 06 Oct 2017 09:01:46
Sakho as you well know had a problem attitude wise - do you want insubordination within the group to spread?

Did you see his commitment to our club when he celebrated Palace beating us while on loan with them last season?
You think that is acceptable?

Who would you bring in then?
Please shoot away?
Players who are actually purchasable, not Varane or Gimenez or other FIFA 18 players please?

And before you say Van Dijk, Southampton NEVER said they'd sell him to us, we never even had a bid accepted and that was never a forgone conclusion, so please feel free to fire away fella - I wait with genuine interest on this one.


11.) 06 Oct 2017 09:16:49
Why are you not marshaling that defense then?
Too old?
Why have you not got your coaching badges instead, most top coaches never played at the top?
You sound like an absolute tactical expert mate.
You should cruise through your trials or coaching exams with all the knowledge you possess.

You have all the answers but none of the reasoning behind them and quite honestly it's pitiful that you're whining so much about things like Ward being in the stands - I guarantee you have seen him play less than the coaches at LFC, so they'd have better assessments of the lad than us.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like him to be given a chance soon too, but only if he's good enough - same with Harry Wilson who I have wanted to be given a chance for about two years but I'm not whining about it.


12.) 06 Oct 2017 12:01:47
What are you mentioning Skrtel for? I haven't mentioned him once, you brought him up, don't have Fifa 18 yet cheers but ill check out your suggestions, Cahill at Chelsea would improve us, he is a leader, him alongside VVD would be a very interesting partnership, I have seen plenty of Ward to know he deserves a chance, Karius is no2 but that wasn't the plan for him though was it? Id go for Butland over anyone, Robertson isn't playing why?

The problems at the back come from no communication, or should the players not be expected to talk in a game as they do play 3 games a week bless them and get paid poorly so why should they be expected to talk on a pitch, the gk let's his defenders know what's going on around them, the cbs should be talking to the full backs and midfield constantly letting them know what's happening and pulling them into positions, its not difficult if you have a half decent grasp of tactics and aren't just a brown nose.

my main point was United and City have seen there weaknesses and done something, we haven't, we aren't in a transition period at all, it takes nearly 2 years to fix a team and see the weaknesses, I don't think so, im happy with Klopp just think more problems should have been addressed than have been, you tell me what should be done then if you can come off your high horse for minute, I enjoy others opinions when they aren't being a plum about it.


13.) 06 Oct 2017 12:10:46
Bingo, you only get experience through playing, he has done more than enough to get a chance and have a run of games, that could be said of Gomez and TTA aswell, should they not get a chance because Klavan or Clyne are older and have played more? Migs clearly isn't a top 6 keeper and Karius is really struggling so try something different, regards training, so they don't have the mentalilty to be footballers if they can't retain something that is drilled into them day in day out, they clearly aren't upto the top league football (i. e a title challenge), we should be targeting leaders or players who aren't afraid to get stuck in, Robertson likes a good tackle yet isn't getting game time over a guy who we wanted out for more than a year, how is that progression? He wants to replace Matip and Lovren with just VVD then? Gomez is clearly not a full back, he likes a tackle so get him in the centre and let him learn and make mistakes, is there not moret han VVD out there, the scouts aren't doing there jobs then no? We have gone backwards compared to the others, they addressed there problems and are stronger, are we?


14.) 06 Oct 2017 16:30:45
Because you said Klopp hasn't improved the squad since he came in in October 2015.

You're definitely a FIFA-head then, are you going to "rage - quit" next if you get verbally battered?

When has Cahill ever been linked to LFC since Klopp took over, realistically I'm talking?
He's Chelsea's club captain no?
Chelsea, who are the champions no?

Did you not read what I said about Van Dijk?
We never even had a bid accepted for him, in fact we never even placed a bid - what don't you get about those facts?

He may never even come to us now if Southampton feel aggrieved about our behaviour still, which they are more than entitled to do.
So maybe you're talking about Chelsea's defensive line up from January?

You've watched Ward in how many matches approximately?
I have seen him play since the youths with us and have never seen anything spectacular, not a damn thing! I must be honest - he's okay, but unspectacular usually, certainly not as good as you seem to think from your "watched plenty of" assessment.
But that's fine, maybe he's better than Mignolet and Karius, that's up to the coaches really, not us!

Is he even Wales' no. 1?
Nope, Wayne Hennessey is?
Drink that in, Wayne Hennessey, Crystal Palace's sometime no.1.
Why don't we just sign him?

Butland isn't a bad shout from what I have seen of him (10 matches maybe), I will give you that, but to buy him, we have to off-load somebody first - the current three we have might not be in demand so we cannot sell right now, meaning we also can't justify buying a 4th squad keeper, sorry 5th squad keeper because we also have the Hungarian lad! We're not Man City who can just spend about £60m in 12 months on 2 goalkeepers are we?

Every signing we make must be low risk because we haven't the same clout financially as them, Robertson is a prime example - he was low risk, if you're so privy to what's happening within the club, surely you'd know why he's not playing every single match. You suggested earlier you knew what was happening in training did you not?

How is the players not communicating with each other anything to do with your 'we haven't improved' comments?
Klopp is now responsible for people's characters/ confidence or lack there of?
Lovren for example, 6 foot 3 and used to command the back 4 of Southampton with Fonte, that hasn't happened more or less since he joined?
Maybe it's because the fans like you berate him every single time he makes a mistake?

I have made my opinion very clear on these pages for about the last month now, not repeating myself for someone with no respect like you.
I won't stoop to your ways with name-calling though because you're losing an argument.

You still have absolutely no idea what you're talking about within the club or who we can get in personnel-wise. You're just throwing out random names like Cahill and VVD.

You must watch a lot of matches between your in depth assessments on Cahill, VVD, Butland, Ward et al.
All that time you could be marshaling our defence as seen as you think it's so easy, or studying for your coaching badges yourself.

Football Manager is out soon I believe, you can live out your transfer fantasies on there mate.
The rest of us will live in the real world.
It doesn't do the name calling thing though from memory, so back you go to FIFA maybe?!


15.) 09 Oct 2017 08:32:15
Do you even read your posts or mine? Where do I say we haven't improved? My point was we have fallen behind our rivals from being level with them last season, we know where we are weak and it hasn't improved, you said name someone who could be realistic, Cahill could be a realistic target, just because he is Chelsea captain makes him untouchable? Hennessey plays for Wales because he plays regular, I seen enough of Ward to know he deserves a few games, Migs and Karius deserve to keep him out? They make the defence uneasy which is clear. You listed 5/ 6 problems so you are in the same bracket as me not being happy with what's being done? Lovren has improved since joining? He gets berated because he is average and actually isn't a top level defender who gets pulled all over the pitch and is quite rash, he like Migs has had enough time, If you think communication on the pitch isn't important then you clearly haven't played football yourself, we need leaders, talkers, organisers. I wasn't looking or an argument, I gave an honest opinion that didn't match yours so you didn't like it and started your name calling, 'Fifa 18' and football manager have nothing to do with my comments, you argued using childish comments so got it back, I think our midfield is the weakest in the 'top 6' too, that's my opinion, you want to try and change my mind you won't but ill listen to why you think they are, I have no idea how the club is being run but its clear we don't have the money to compete so we need investment, how is VVD a random name? Its has been explained many times by the Eds what went on with him and every signing we make needs to be low risk? That is great ambition shown there, I know players watch dvds of opponents, work on set piece scenarios and ball movement etc, its a big business its not a Sunday league show up a couple nights a week do some stretching, smash the ball at a keeper then play a game of 5 a side, its a lot more than that and yes I watch enough and have played football to know a little more than what fifa and Football manager offers.

{Ed001's Note - Cahill is not just unrealistic but not what we need, he is far too slow for the way we play and would be just an upgraded Klavan. Yes he puts his body on the line, but that is all he has, even the Chelsea fans do not rate him.}


16.) 09 Oct 2017 09:09:11
Cheers Ed, was just thinking of his leadership and body on the line that we don't get from Matip, Lovren can do that but isn't for me a defender who is going to ever push us on imo, what's your opinion on if we would go for Butland? We don't need a 4/ 5th keeper in the squad we need a No.1.

{Ed001's Note - I do agree we need a leader, but Cahill is not the answer. That is the problem, there are so few top class defenders around that we would end up swapping Lovren and Matip for someone who would just give us different problems, rather than fixing things.

I like Butland a lot as a keeper, but his injuries worry me. However I think we could well have the answer in the squad in Ward, personally. I do not understand what Klopp is playing at messing around with the keepers like this. It is the most important single position on the pitch, it needs to be one player playing every game possible. Mignolet is not the answer, so sit him on the bench and find out whether Ward or Karius is!}


17.) 09 Oct 2017 10:27:26
Ward has a calmer influence if you get what I mean, he seems to have a calming composure that doesn't feed through the back line like Panick, which Migs an Karius has spread through, I played as a keeper and being rotated never happened and it certainly would have affected my performance and confidence, the defence need to know what's happening around them and a vocal keeper can make a big difference, we seem to lose track of runners a fair bit and a simple shout of 'follow him' or 'pass him on' let's players around the pitch know what's happening, how many times have we lost the ball in midfield and its been the crowd who have all shouted 'man on' and the players have been caught out?


 

 

13 Aug 2017 10:46:24
Things are feeling a bit dysfunctional at the club right now. Phil's transfer request and the apparent breakdown in relationship with Klopp has just added fuel to the flames of the poorly executed transfer window. Who is to blame? Well, yes of course Klopp has overstepped the mark but there's no point lynching him alone when this is a collective failure at the football club. We keep blaming Edwards, FSG and Klopp but the accountability has to also include Mike Gordon who is heading up the club.

On the transfer side of things, I am torn. On the positive side I feel the identification of positions and players is much better that previous summers where we would go out of our way to buy players we didn't need and ignore problem positions and a history of moving onto plan B and Cs far too quickly. If what I read here is correct we wanted Solanke, Sessegnon, Mendy, Brandt, Keita and Van Dijk. Hypothetically speaking, if we had nailed these deals then we'd be ready for a title assault and we'd all be feeling bullish about our chances. However, on the negative side, we just do deals very poorly and often embarass ourselves. The strategy of long drawn out transfer sagas through the lens of tabloid press is awful and not becoming of a club of Liverpool's stature. What is with this ivory transfer tower nonsense? Why don't we just talk to other clubs?

Finally, I saw that Gary Medel and Pepe have signed for Besiktas this summer. Have we missed a trick there? They would walk into our team and add that winning mentality and whether you like it or not, a bit of nastiness/ snide! Sadly we don't make these kind of inspired signings anymore.

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1.) 13 Aug 2017 11:43:09
Well written post.


 

 

17 Jul 2017 11:25:20
With the possibility of Keita coming in, Emre signing a new deal and Grujic looking to get more game time I wonder if Spurs could be interested in Adam Lallana again? Would the club entertain such interest?

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1.) 17 Jul 2017 11:38:27
I wondered that too, although Lallana was one of our best players last season, for a lot of it anyway!

I'd like to get our significant incomings tied up soon and then sit back to watch the outgoings, as long as Couts is not one of them!


2.) 17 Jul 2017 11:30:05
I would drive him there! £40 mill and Thank you so much!


3.) 17 Jul 2017 11:31:15
Hope not. Remember how much we missed Lallana when he was injured on England duty? I'd sell emre can before Lallana any day.


4.) 17 Jul 2017 12:19:54
I feel a good offer for Lallana at his age may well be considered carefully (if Keita does come in) . His stock is really high right now off the back of a pretty good season. Whilst he is an excellent player in the big games he is often part of the problem with his dawdling and pirouettes when we're facing a "low block". Perhaps if we had not signed Gini and Grujic last summer this wouldn't even be a consideration!

Or maybe everything is being readied for some big Coutinho bids!


5.) 17 Jul 2017 12:49:09
I'd get rid of Henderson before lallana, injury has hampered him its only a matter of time before he is replaced as captain of the team.


6.) 17 Jul 2017 13:13:44
I find it really interesting how different people perceive different players. For me Henderson is up there with Coutinho as our best player, for others he's surplas. Some rate Can as the future of the club, I see him as someone who'll never command a first team place.

As for Lallana to me is clear that Klopp sees him as an integral part of his team but you guys think he's not needed. It's funny how we can all watch the same thing and come away with totally different conclusions.


7.) 17 Jul 2017 18:23:41
Thats true putney, I personally don't rate lallana either but would pick him over Henderson who is average at best, I'm not sure what he has done to be held in such high regard rather than having good endurance.


 

 

 

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08 Jan 2018 13:38:27
Even as a summer target, a good choice.

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08 Jan 2018 12:12:02
Thanks Ed. He looks like a very very good keeper. Hope we’re interested.

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{Ed002's Note - I think there is interest and certainly he is well thought of having previously been of interest to the Manchester sides and Juve.}


 

 

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08 Nov 2017 10:42:40
Would love to see us make an attempt to get Gimenez from Atletico. Do we have any more information on his contract situation at Madrid? I think adding that little bit of South American snide/ street smart would really make a difference to our attitude to defending.

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{Ed002's Note - His contract has not been agreed and clubs are speaking to Atletico. He is not one of the centre backs Liverpool has enquired after and I would put him out of your mind.}


 

 

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08 Nov 2017 10:38:43
With Emre likely to be joining Juventus and Coutinho to Barcelona you would think Goretzka would be a high priority option to replace one of them. But hey, logic is not our best suit when it comes to the transfer market.

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03 Jan 2018 16:05:50
I don't disagree there. With the possibility of VVD (and maybe even Akanji) being able to start attacks from deep or carry the ball forward the need for a deep lying playmaker reduces. If we get a keeper that can kick a bit better than the ones we have today we'll also have an option to start attacks from deep that way too. But, I do think that we'd miss that bit of jaw dropping skill that Phil offers. You know that "WTF was that? " thing we see at the moment. I think a Fekir/ Coric could provide that touch of magic over and above a Lemar/ Ox.

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26 Nov 2017 21:11:55
I do agree we need a DM but I also feel that we need someone that has a bit more passing range than we have. A lot of our mids are runners and pressers which is fine against mid-low end teams but in a top clash you need that ability to turn defence into attack with a pass rather than a dribble. Let the ball do a bit of work too ;)

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Mr Mike "Net Present Value" Gordon will be setting the parameters of the deals.

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Mr Mike "Net Present Value" Gordon will be setting the parameters of the deals.

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17 Jul 2017 12:19:54
I feel a good offer for Lallana at his age may well be considered carefully (if Keita does come in) . His stock is really high right now off the back of a pretty good season. Whilst he is an excellent player in the big games he is often part of the problem with his dawdling and pirouettes when we're facing a "low block". Perhaps if we had not signed Gini and Grujic last summer this wouldn't even be a consideration!

Or maybe everything is being readied for some big Coutinho bids!

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