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08 Jan 2018 11:24:18
Do we genuinely have interest in Alisson?

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed002's Note - Roma has admitted an approach from one side (not Liverpool) and they know of interest of others - which may well include Liverpool, but certainly includes barcelona.}


1.) 08 Jan 2018 12:12:02
Thanks Ed. He looks like a very very good keeper. Hope we’re interested.

{Ed002's Note - I think there is interest and certainly he is well thought of having previously been of interest to the Manchester sides and Juve.}


2.) 08 Jan 2018 12:31:31
Would be a good shout. He’s big, agile and commands his area well. He is keeping Ederson out of the Brazil team so he is no mug.


3.) 08 Jan 2018 13:11:48
ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace.


4.) 08 Jan 2018 12:48:04
What are Barcas plans for ter stegan Ed? Would be difficult to keep 2 first choice keepers happy.

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page Den.}


5.) 08 Jan 2018 13:38:27
Even as a summer target, a good choice.


6.) 08 Jan 2018 14:20:11
If we're going to make a real challenge next year we've got to be in for a quality keeper. I'd add to that a new CB to play with VvD, a creative type midfielder to replace little Phil (you all know the options by now), another midfield pivot to play alongside Keita and another striker - we'd look a little short up top if we had long term injuries. So 5 1st team additions - good enough to go straight in the team.

I'm assuming 1 or 2 of our current keepers will be allowed to find new clubs (Migs and Bogdan? ) + Can (shame - always liked his endeavour) and Sturridge. Possibly Wijnaldum and Ings may also be considered surplus + 1 of Lovren or Matip.

Obviously there may also be others leaving which I assume will help with FFP and getting those 5 new faces in.

Here's hoping. Either way I trust Klopp to do what he can with the tools at his disposal. I just won't understand it if he doesn't prioritise a new keeper. C'mon Jurgen - you played centre half - you must know the significance of a quality, organising, brave keeper? Makes the whole back line better.


7.) 08 Jan 2018 14:27:10
I still think we’ve missed a chance with Ward. Question for the Ed’s, I know it has been said on here that Ward isn’t happy and wants to go somewhere where he will play, but do you know what the view of him at the club is? Do the coaches rate him as a potential EPL keeper? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Well it seems Klopp has apparently told him he will be number one in the future. But I suspect he was fibbing. Typically clubs will use older experienced goalkeepers as third choice and have them giving advice and working with the youth and younger goalkeepers - but that is not how it works at Liverpool.

He is third choice right now and needs to look to move on in the summer.}


8.) 08 Jan 2018 14:31:08
Danny.

‘ed has said they have no need to sell now cl to play for and last 16 they are not stupid what team sell a key player mid season whith no replace. ’

Ummm. Liverpool and Coutinho? ;) just joking but your post made me chuckle.


9.) 08 Jan 2018 14:45:47
I think that was the point SGR!


10.) 08 Jan 2018 15:06:58
Thanks Ed002, big shame about him not getting that chance. Out of interest is there a deliberate policy of 3 relatively younger keepers or just how it has worked out?

{Ed002's Note - I think you will find two of Liverpool's four registered PL GKs are around 30.}


11.) 08 Jan 2018 15:32:20
Hope you’re well Ed.

I have heard a rumour from a deep source that Klopp wasn’t fibbing to Ward, but it’s actually the players attitude since arriving back at the club that has cost him a first team place, or at least a shot at it. Not sure how true this is though.

{Ed002's Note - So why would Klopp tell him he will be number one? His attitude probably relates to a very good loan being destroyed by Klopp (who then didn't play him) and the a season long loan being rejected by Klopp (who then didn't play him). Klopp then tells him he is number 3 (so the chance to sit on the bench in the League Cup) and then Klopp tells him he will be number one in the future. There appears to be a trend here.}


12.) 08 Jan 2018 15:39:19
Ward, Bogdan and Mingolet all need to leave for various reasons. Obviously not all at once.

Wish Ward well he will be a top keeper.


13.) 08 Jan 2018 15:53:44
I don't like what Klopp's done with Ward, but he could fix the situation by playing the lad. I mean, it's not like Mignolet or Karius have set the world alight here. Sure, throwing him in at the deep end wouldn't be fair, but he at least deserves a start somewhere.

{Ed002's Note - He deserved to stay in Scotland and then deserved time playing for the first team at Huddersfield. I don't think he will get the chance at Liverpool Amerigo.}


14.) 08 Jan 2018 15:55:14
A fair point well presented Ed. A shame as the boy has definitely played well during his loan spells.

Are you going to promise me a starting position in the charity match and then bench me instead.?

{Ed002's Note - I need to get on to that - I am running around for other reasons for a few days but at the end of the week I will be on to it. Or my PA will.}


15.) 08 Jan 2018 17:11:16
Says something that Mignolet is so far from where you expect an experienced keeper to be that I’d forgotten he is is almost 30 already.


16.) 09 Jan 2018 17:25:20
Was obvious from the start the decision on Ward was a poor one, he could have played a full prem season with huddersfield (and a starting position in prem is a very rare opportunity for a young keeper) .

If he’d performed we could bring him back in the summer as no.1 with a full year of experience and prem tested, as it is we have no idea if he can cope. Feel very sorry for the lad.


 

 

 

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07 Aug 2018 14:13:43
I can't help but pinch myself when I look at our transfer business over the last 3 windows. Salah, Robbo, VVD, Keita, Fabinho, Alisson and Shaqiri. Wow. And if do we succeed in adding Fekir - an even bigger WOW.

Admittedly I have been critical of Gordon and Edwards for being naive to the business side of European football but they really have upped their game since Klopp has come in. Kudos to the both of them.

In previous years the squad was always decent in terms of quality but it was littered with error-strewn individuals. It is those errors that have played a big part in our recent failings. The recent business has gone a long way to tackle that issue.

In addition to eradicating the errors I feel this current squad has that little bit of extra arrogance to get over the line for silverware.

I really don't remember a more talented group - even Rafa's 08/ 09 squad wasn't this good. Excited for the season.

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1.) 07 Aug 2018 15:21:48
Don't forget the Ox. Imo liverpool still had a fab four even after pipco left. The ox's direct running causes nightmares to any defence. He is a goal threat, can pass, has the reactions of a cat, is strong and after mo was easily our best signing of the summer. I'm so gutted that he got injured when he did Coz he was just getting better and better.


 

 

24 Jul 2018 13:33:12
Another injury for Matip. Between Gomez, Lovren and Matip we probably get one full season. They all struggle with injuries or form throughout the season. I hope that doesn’t come back to bite us. As I understand it would be very difficult to make room for another CB in the squad without outgoings.

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1.) 24 Jul 2018 14:10:50
Footballers get injured. It's why we have 6 senior cbs. We're not the only club and lovren is pretty tough.


2.) 24 Jul 2018 16:42:53
I don’t think the answer to having so many injury prone players is to have 6 of them lol. Also Lovren being tough and Lovren being out injured or in poor form are mutually exclusive.


3.) 24 Jul 2018 17:26:54
You don't think the solution to having injury prone players is to have back up players fpf? I do.


4.) 24 Jul 2018 17:28:17
Ideally you want players who never get injured but it's not realistic. So you have a handful of good cbs at the club. It is the solution flypelicanfly. I think it's the only solution tbh.


5.) 24 Jul 2018 23:18:26
Having a keeper like Alison will make the defender look so much better. They will better organised and have more confidence.
Tbh I'm happy with our defence now.


 

 

27 May 2018 15:05:22
Honestly a year ago I would be fuming that Klopp has paid the price for being too loyal to error strewn players. A year on I have learned a lot more about Klopp the man. I have no problem with him if he wants to stick by Karius and rebuild him. Football may be results and money driven but there’s a huge amount of value in building resilient humans. I value that more today than a year ago. YNWA Loris and Mo!

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1.) 27 May 2018 15:25:14
FlyPelican I get what you mean and also learnt a lot from Klopp in the past year or so but let's seperate emotions slightly from reality, we need a new goalkeeper. Its not just on last nights game as the poor lad made two mistakes in one game in the final of the Champions League. You only have to look at De Gea to see what a top keeper can do, fans are screaming out for us to challange for the title but you need a good keeper as a start in order to do that. I get where your arguement stems from and I more than anyone love a comeback story and will support him if Klopp decides to stick with him but my choice in this moment of time is to go for Oblak or Becker.


2.) 27 May 2018 15:41:59
I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t add a keeper - and I assume that we will move Mignolet Bogdan and Ward on this summer and bring one or two in. I agree that a keeper can win you 10 points a season. Alisson or Oblak would be excellent if available.


3.) 27 May 2018 16:05:35
Its quite staggering to think for one reason or another all 4 of our keepers might be moved on. Bogdan is not good enough, Ward needs to move for game time, Mignolet is not good enough and Karius for reasons previously explained. FlyPelican, I am hoping Klopp can convince either Oblak or Becker to join and I would go with Reina or an experienced keeper as back up.


4.) 27 May 2018 19:04:32
I agree about vile fans giving Karius abuse. It is wrong. He is a good little keeper and I've constantly stood by him this season but. We do need a better keeper, if we had degea we would have won the league. Our rivals all have international no1s, we don't even have an international keeper in Karius. I know he will move on from this, he is confident and arrogant and he will maybe someday be Germany gk but I don't think HD is good enough to compete at the top level.


 

 

04 May 2018 11:39:40
Liverpool and the champions league are made for one another aren't they? Credit Klopp and the team for progressing to the final with a makeshift midfield and young Trent learning on the job. Lovely stuff! It's frightening to think how much stronger we would be with two or three more top quality signings. Feels good to be a Liverpool fan. Now, let's focus and finish the job.

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29 Apr 2018 12:02:49
Re the Keylor Navas link - why would Keylor Navas swap bring Real Madrid no1 for being Liverpool no2? I get that Real are wanting to upgrade. I get that most players don’t sign to be backups but surely when a coach or sporting director sells a player a role at the club it’s with an attractive plan in mind? Seems like a strange idea to me.

FlyPelicanFly

{Ed001's Note - he is unlikely to be number one there next season.}


1.) 29 Apr 2018 12:39:20
Sounds like he’s unlikely to be no1 at Liverpool too though.


 

 

 

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15 Jul 2018 14:50:29
Lol at the reverse psychology. Poor old Liverpool resigned to having to go for Navas whilst the uber rich West Londoners get Alisson.

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18 May 2018 11:38:49
Putting aside specific names, I think one thing that has changed is that we are identifying the positions to strengthen a lot better than in the past. Historically we'd be stockpiling players in positions we were already strong and ignoring the glaring weaknesses. For that reason I am much more bullish about our up and coming business.

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20 Mar 2018 10:53:15
Hmmm so reading between the lines replacing Emre, Clyne and Mignolet are priorities this summer.

Personally I think we need two central midfielders as Hendo (injuries), Milner (not a midfielder) and Gini (anonymous more often than not), Ox (not a midfielder) aren't the hub of a title-challenging team.

As for Karius, well kudos to him for re-establishing himself and being a keeper that does not lose us points. However, wouldn't a title challenger want a keeper than wins you points?

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19 Mar 2018 15:19:20
I like Ndidi and think he would be a good replacement for Emre. I would still like to see someone of Jorginho's ilk come in as well though. Someone to pull strings from deeper when needed. With Naby Keita arriving too I think those three would be an excellent mix and would allow us to take our time finding someone to replace Phil without getting desperate.

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02 Mar 2018 12:08:13
I’d get both Torreira and Jorginho! Do it!

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07 Aug 2018 16:27:46
Oh I think we're all swooning over Alisson Becker!

Forgot to mention Lenglet being a good one for Barcelona and Odriozola to Real as well. Good signings.

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07 Aug 2018 16:04:13
Ed001, I think you and Ed002 have both talked up Andriy Lunin - the young keeper who chose to join Real Madrid.

Roma have done some good business. Ante Coric could be one who develops into a special player there.

Arsenal have signed a good one in Torreira but you would make a case for Fabinho being a better player.

Despite what Mr Mourinho thinks we cannot sign everyone :)

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{Ed001's Note - he is extremely highly rated and we were very interested. Might prove to be a loss in the long term, but I am over the moon with Alisson.}


 

 

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25 Jul 2018 09:30:25
If you consider Keita as this summer’s signing then there’s no doubt about it - best summer window since Barnes/ Beardsley summer. Over the last 12 months we’ve needed upgrades at GK CB LB no6 and another forward. We have done all of that successfully. A massive thank you to FSG for sticking with it and learning from previous expensive mistakes. If we get Fekir then I don’t think it’ll be possible to ever match this window in terms of incoming quality.

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24 Jul 2018 16:42:53
I don’t think the answer to having so many injury prone players is to have 6 of them lol. Also Lovren being tough and Lovren being out injured or in poor form are mutually exclusive.

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17 Jun 2018 11:00:00
The recruitment of players has massively improved in the last couple of seasons. We now choose targets in positions we need and that fit a style and system.

Remember signing Adam, Carroll, Benteke, Balotelli, Allen, Downing, Mignolet etc?

I wouldn’t say our turnover of players is anywhere near as high as it was under Rodgers/ old committee.

Yes the transfer and agent fees paid are eye watering and some of the unsettling/ negotiation tactics/ illegal approaches are still areas we can improve upon.

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