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17 Feb 2017 11:31:16
Just watch this the next time you lose sight about klopp and this team.

Supermane96

1.) 17 Feb 2017 13:10:43
Thanks supermane. . I was there. What a game. ynwa.


2.) 17 Feb 2017 13:17:04
And lost to Emery, Banega and Krychowaik in the final quite easily.


3.) 17 Feb 2017 13:51:47
Still sends shivers up the spine. Up there with Istanbul.


4.) 17 Feb 2017 16:07:51
Harry to be fair, Sevilla are a very good team and their squad had far more experience in European competition and major finals than we did.

Losing those finals last year was gutting for the fans, so imagine how the players felt. It is part of the learning curve to becoming a top player. Initial failure makes you more hungry to succeed. If it doesn't then you lack character. That applies not only to football, but to all walks of life.

My last employers made me redundant. In hindsight, they probably could've found me a new role within their ranks but I gave them no reason to. I was consistently late for work, took way too many breaks, constantly used my phone, and yet I was always the first person out the door come the end of the day.

So since taking my new role I have consciously changed. I am the first in the door, take minimal breaks, rarely touch my phone except for emergencies and do enough overtime to consider it a second job!

I failed and it made me want to succeed. Footballers should be no different. Tasting defeat will only make them hungry for victory. It is a necessary part of becoming great. And if it doesn't? Well then they never will be great will they and they can retire with runners up medals and be forgotten about.

Every player who walks through the door at Anfield has the platform to become a legend; a cult hero. If they lack the substance for that alone to inspire them to be the best they can be, Klopp will make sure the door hits them on the way out. That you can count on.


5.) 17 Feb 2017 17:06:46
Playing a team who had won the tournament twice in a row, compared to our team who didn't even have a european finalist in its ranks. or even semi finalists? Maybe sturrige in the chelsea squad.

As the next poster said we will learn from that and hopefully during a champions league campaign next year will be better prepared :)

But captain negative you will always find a problem.


6.) 17 Feb 2017 17:18:50
Still gives me goose bumps every time I watch it.


7.) 17 Feb 2017 17:55:05
MK, unlike you the players didn't exactly take their opportunities in the two cups this year mate so not everyone can or will change.


8.) 17 Feb 2017 18:07:17
Same old, we let in soft goals in both Finals, against top teams, you cannot give them a goal start and expect to win .


9.) 17 Feb 2017 18:10:26
@Mathematics
"And lost to Emery, Banega and Krychowaik in the final quite easily. "

Deary me, at least we reached our first European final in who knows how long under Klopp along with that lost the match to the a team who had won the Europa League twice in a row and then went onto win it in 2015/ 16 too making it three times in a row.

2 + 1 equals how much Mathematics?


10.) 17 Feb 2017 18:19:37
Anyone who watched that game should have known that we would have a hard time winning it. Why? Whe we went one up, Sevilla never panicked nor got disjointed. They just kept playing their game. That was experience talking as the team who played the final the year before, played last year's final bar Bacca and one other I can't remember. As soon as Moreno (shocking) gave them a chance to equalize, they just took over the game and we couldn't respond. I agree that Klopp could and should have done more to help the players and he admitted that BUT they were just too strong for us on the day. As for the BVB game, LEGEND!


11.) 17 Feb 2017 18:53:27
that video brought back some amazing emotions, what a game! Supporting our club is never a smooth ride and that game epitomises everything we are about. I believe in klopp even if Harry's already written him off, I'm sure he'll be on here next week with a random name we should employ instead of klopp.


12.) 17 Feb 2017 19:13:10
Thanks for posting Ed. I thought the first part was ok, I edited and toned down what I really wanted to say to Harry. obviously was still deemed offensive. Thanks again anyway, you do great jobs.


13.) 17 Feb 2017 19:17:20
How many times has this Harry guy changed his profile name?


14.) 17 Feb 2017 19:19:32
Don't understand why you felt the need to post that, Harry? What has losing the final got to do with the Dortmund game?
Yeah, we lost, but doesn't take away from the amazing emotions felt in those 90 mins, which I guess was what the OP was alluding to.
I have wanted to ask you for ages why you post, because it's pretty much always negative (unless you're talking about other teams and how sensational their players are) .
You have always talked a lot of borderline nonsense, but I remember when it used to be quite positive and supportive. Nowadays, you just seem to be following the trend of slagging the team and almost like when we fail as it vindicates your thoughts and opinions.
I'm pretty sure you'll disagree and argue here, but the fact of the matter is that you are one of these modern fans who moans and enjoys when we mess up. You'd rather us fail and you be correct as opposed to supporting us.
I'm not for one minute saying we should blindly support and not question things at all, but constructive criticism is more beneficial in my opinion.
Like I said before, been meaning to question you're thinking on this type of thing for a good while, as it's getting boring reading how poor we are and how we should follow other teams' blueprints in order to succeed.
Sorry if this comes off offensive, it's actually more a general query with regards to why you post these things and your train of thought when 'supporting' your team?


15.) 17 Feb 2017 21:25:03
Perfectly put forward maneonfire! I thought I was the only one thinking it and was being a bit harsh on Harry. Seems it's not just me!


16.) 17 Feb 2017 21:54:29
It didn't stop Liverpool winning the Champions League in 05 Supermane/ Adam.


17.) 17 Feb 2017 21:46:19
Everyone has a reason when you loose. Some genuine . Some rubbish and some completely out of the blue. Aa far as I remember from this same page we went into the finals as favorites after beating Villarreal quite comfortably.


18.) 17 Feb 2017 23:57:11
We were never "favourites" with their pedigree in the competition! That's rubbish.


19.) 18 Feb 2017 11:04:00
That is false, Harry and you know it. No way were we favs for that game vs the two time defending champs of the EL. Stop posting falsehoods in a bid to slate Klopp. If you want to criticize him for the loss, there re things to pick out BUT don't make things up and use them as facts. You're better than that, mate.


20.) 18 Feb 2017 11:11:26
Welshred84, to be fair, we were indeed favourite after we defeat Dortmund, Villarreal. Even more do when we went a goal up. But we expended so much energy gegenpressing in 1st half we lost it totally 2nd half. I think Emery saw that chink in armour and ask His players to sit deep and play quick passes to bypass pressing . 2nd half, the sevilla players came out charging and we were not prepared for it.


21.) 18 Feb 2017 14:05:54
Leek. Did they come out charging or did they sit deep? Two totally different things. You charge forward or you sit deep which is sitting back. Can't do them both the same time. Your analysis is way off. And we were never favourites, the way we got to the final was epic, emotional etc etc but Sevilla weren't the defending champions for nothing mate. They knew how to win the competition and we lacked experience in them situations. Fact.


22.) 18 Feb 2017 20:00:50
Welsh

We lost the battle in midfield in the second half against Sevilla while he refused to bring Henderson who was warming on the bench. We lost coz Klopp couldn't deal it.


 

 

11 Feb 2017 20:18:28
Good god talk about ungrateful glass half empty fans we have.

This time last year after 25 games we were on 35 points in 9th and apart from leicester noone was on 49.

Were 14 points better off. that's improvment

Were 1 off second. Right in the shampions league mix. Top of the top 6 league, haven't lost to any of them. Jist smashed title challengers tottenham all over the park. Got our fingers crossed that chelsea will lose and we can stay within 9 pf them ready for the season to start a fresh in two weeks.

Get a grip of yoselfs. Where fine and still better than last year which is the minimum of klipps job to improve us each year.

Ynwa. i know my faith never wavered this year. All my posts saod we would mash the spuds today. vindicated.

Supermane96

1.) 11 Feb 2017 21:57:45
we have been on a bad run that not only cost us in the league but also the cups as well, of course the fans weren't happy, I feel personally this season could have been so much better we had a great chance, I would however take a top 4 finish right now but becoming champions has to be our ultimate aim, we need to stop losing to teams title contenders should be beating first to make that happen.


2.) 11 Feb 2017 23:53:43
But fans expected the league after finishing 8th. What stupidity! that's why people are dissapointed.

Listen the following couldn't piss me off more.

Fans who don't expect the league are not bad fans. Every comment is alwayd we shouldn't be aiming for top 4 were liverpool we should be winning the league. and of course our history and prestige dictates that but our squad and circumstances DO F NOT.

Where building toward that but again even after 1 league title we might not win it again for another 5/ 6 years. So if were not winning it do people refuse to use the words where having a good season.

Its only chelsea who are doing really great.

United WORLD RECORD PLAYER, mourinho, 150 mil spent are behind us.

City 120 million front 3, guadiola are potentially just 3 above us.

Where all having solid seasons but expectations are telling you all where not and that's why you probably don't enjoy football and are constantly renouncing your faith in it after each and every loss.

Just take a step back and see where we end up and enjoy the wins like today along the way!


3.) 12 Feb 2017 01:01:36
I can see what you are saying mane, but we have to change our mentality, the owners want the title we have gone far too long without one, how many more years can we be in transition, plus we have spent plenty of cash ourselves as I said I would take top 4 now but I cannot help but feel we could have had so much more this season, we put ourselves in a great position only for this wretched run to put the mockers on that, as for being patient I personally have been patient since 1990 waiting for Liverpool fc to deliver title number 19.


4.) 12 Feb 2017 07:02:04
I have to agree with kingkenny here, 1 win in 10 and out of all three competitions in the space of a couple of weeks is disappointing for any set of fans not just us. Of course people are going to be disappointed, but I agree some people have been over the top. I think you make some good points but you start your post in the most passive aggressive way as if people shouldn't have been disappointed or that we should be happy to have just been in a position to challenge but then lose that to the teams we lost it too. That's a very beta way of thinking, and we won't be winners with that mentality. Did I expect the title even when we where 5 points behind, no I didn't, I knew that even if Chelsea where to drop points we would drop just as many if not more. But the disappointing part wasn't that we dropped off or didn't compete until the end of the season, it was who we lost to and the manner of our performances. We flicked a switch and received relegation form all of the sudden lol. Having said that, it was important not to overreact and know that we had the players and the manager to bounce back. Does this result mean we are going to be all find and dandy again though? It didn't after Chelsea. We will just have to wait and see. It's very easy for people like you to say 'see I told you so' or 'this should quieten up the haters' lol do you not see you are just as toxic and unbalanced as the fans calling for klopps head. Just say we needed this result, it was a brilliant performance and that this should be the result we build on, not use it as a stick to beat other rightfully disappointed fans.


5.) 12 Feb 2017 08:42:41
What are you not getting?

The owners mentality is to win the league
Klopps to win the league
Players to win the league
Fans to win the league

Each and every year

Are we good enough to win the league yet? NO

Should we not count finishing 8th and then say 3rd as an achievment, bexause going of that improvment. we qill win the league next year!

Realism is different from mentality.

Where a huge club. League winners!

But do you think were good enough trully. right now?

Last question is do you think klopp looks in yhe mirror at the start of the season and says i am aiming for 4th this year. No more n9 less? Come on now.


6.) 12 Feb 2017 12:04:16
Where did Chelsea finish last year?


7.) 12 Feb 2017 13:25:17
Supermane is posting some common sense and just see the world as it is, NOT as he would like it to be. We all want to win the PL BUT this squad still has holes in it that need filling. That is a fact. You can't win the PL with one great CB in Matip, nor a make shift LB in Milner, no replacement for Mane and the list goes on and on. If our great start to the season suckered you into thinking we could challenge for the PL vs teams further along in their squad development than we are, then that's your fault for not dreaming with your eyes open. The title was never on for me for the reasons above so we're good. Did the bad run affect me? Of course and hopefully lessons have been learned. But to the fans throwing your toys out of the pram cos we couldn't match a Chelsea team 2 season removed from winning the PL with the same squad and a great addition in Kante, then I can't helpyou there. Dream with your eyes open, fellow reds!


 

 

11 Feb 2017 17:52:58
Question. You think mane returning will jist fix everything.

Answer. Bt sports right about now haha ;)

Supermane96

1.) 11 Feb 2017 19:32:02
If Mane can rescue our season, what can't he rescue? I reckon he could probably rescue Joe Harts Manchester City career!


2.) 11 Feb 2017 19:33:29
Normal Service Resumed!
Fantastic performance tonight. Totally dominated Spurs from start to finish.
Mane on fire with two great goals. Everyone played well.
Really enjoyable to watch again.

Well done lads. YNWA.


3.) 11 Feb 2017 20:21:04
Not just Mane, tho. The desire, drive and intensity we played with, ia what has been missing from our game sine the City game. Mane played vs Hull and we were crap. Why? We were missing all the above.


4.) 11 Feb 2017 21:23:53
Spurs played a high line and that's criminal against Mane. He was running riot on that right hand side. We weee average on the left. Tells you what Pace brings to the team. Can we have another Mane on the left.


5.) 11 Feb 2017 22:23:37
Harry ❤'s pace. pace on the left actually. But I do agree with you Harry.


6.) 11 Feb 2017 23:58:24
Yeah noah. Wiji aswel coming back in made a huge difference, but as a whole the team where brilliant today.

All that though didn't give my comment the same smarmy effect haha.


 

 

05 Feb 2017 20:03:00
Does not a single person care that where actually able to lose this many games and be 4 points off second spot? Its not great but we've been where everton are on avout 40 points by now playing catch uo and the fact we have had this time and united are still a point behind us is awesome.

Supermane96

1.) 05 Feb 2017 21:17:34
Clutching at straws, next week they will be 2 points in front. What will you say then?


2.) 05 Feb 2017 21:57:09
To be honest, looking at our next 6 games, we play all big teams apart from Burnley at home. So we all know we play much better against the top sides as they try and play football and actually beat us, so I really would not be surprised if we were to win the next 6 games going by how our season has been. It is only when teams sit back against us that we struggle.


3.) 06 Feb 2017 05:07:21
No to be honest! Man Utd have a better squad and we have a fragile 1! The fact we are playing lucas as cb and let a 20 mill cb away on loan explains it all in my opinion! Weather he breached discipline or not means nothing! Squad depth has been found out big time! And I for 1 expected it! Uefa cup final all over again! just spread out over a season! But that said Rome wasn't built in a night! Support the team or bolt! Cause trust me on this we are along way off winning a league title if u have any sense at all.


4.) 06 Feb 2017 05:08:36
I'm more stunned by the amount of loser liverpool fans that have appeared in the past 24 hours. Apparanrly its all over now.
Serioualy tho, it is far far better being in this position as opposed to the past few years looking up at the top 4 being about 7+ points outside.

Fans will never be happy with what they fet and we should expect more from the team. I just think its crazy when fans' attribute poor results to a lack of desire etc. External attributions get you no where.

{Ed001's Note - why is that crazy? We have seen time and time again that the players do not try as hard against the smaller teams and drop points to them. Complacency is a huge issue at the club.}


5.) 06 Feb 2017 05:33:19
Yes ed it is, but being upset at a performance is one thing. Giving up on the team like I've read from countless fans in the last 24 hours is just crazy. Ok, maybe just emotional talk, but hell i wouldn't want that kind of loser mentality on my team.

As long as I remember we've had these issues. Rafa's teams were rife with it as well. Dropping points when we shouldn't etc, but in this moment we have given ourselves a great shot at getting into that top group. More so than we have in years previous. And even better, we are still in control of our destiny.

I know we can't directly effect the teams results as fans, but nonetheless I'm up for the fight. I hope thise going to Anfield take the same attitude. It'll be a graveyard for our own players if the fans groan at every mistake!

{Ed001's Note - I am not arguing with that, the fans have no excuse to be so damn quiet each week, nor to give up on the team during a bad run. However the players deserve the criticism they get, in the main, as they do not work as hard against the lesser teams.}


6.) 06 Feb 2017 11:49:18
What about Gomez at CB Npk? Y did not Klopp play him? The fact that Klopp has no idea how to unlock teams who sit back says it all. Have been on the site for nearly my life and if you haven't got a clue on how the game works then I feel sorry for people. Are the Ed's also agreeing lack of finances are the reason Klopp is doing poor? Jesus Christ!


7.) 06 Feb 2017 11:44:56
Any idea why they are so complacent, the other teams at the top don't seem to be having a problem getting up for the lower team matches?


8.) 06 Feb 2017 11:20:02
If they keep on being complacent against lesser teams, and then keep losing, wouldn't it make them consider that maybe they should stop being so complacent? It's just farcical how a team that has achieved nothing feels entitled to being complacent like this.


 

 

01 Feb 2017 16:56:54
Not to be horrible but did anyone else notice that the main change yesterday was sturridge coming out of the team.

We were pretty much back to earlier season form. just without that mane spark

Supermane96

1.) 01 Feb 2017 18:28:09
I didn't see it. We were only okay yesterday. Pressing was good. We still aren't what we were at the start of the season, Though I'm still optimistic we will get there again. Could just hear the sigh of relief when wijnaldum scored. Studge probably needs a rest or he needs to move on. Idk. He needs to get his sharpness/ speed back and I don't know if he can. Regardless, if he's wearing red he will have my support. Still a pretty genuine lad and from what I've heard/ seen he seems to have kept his head down.


2.) 01 Feb 2017 19:13:18
There was an improvment and the only real change was sturridge. sure we weren't back at out top best but still got mane to add back in.

The issue with sturridge is

1. Not staying 100% so he can play more games

2. Lost him pace. People forget he was sent for an operation in rodges last season as they thought they found the problem to all his injurys. they cut the muscles and that. I personally don't think he has been as quick and sharp since. Its always been put down to a run of games needed but he's just had a month ands he a professional footballer who living is being fit, it doesn't take this ling to even have teb minutes where he can show his speed with a run in behind or something.

When he use to return from injury he never needed this much time to get back wether it was chelsea. city or us. He would come back in score 3, every pundit etx would be like if he could stay fit he would be world class. then he would get injured and repeat.

One word and its sad but think how long everyone gave him before realising it had gone.

Torres


3.) 01 Feb 2017 19:58:37
I wonder if its mental. A lot of players when they come back from injury struggle with the fear of reinjury. Every now and then Sturridge will stretch out and show glimpses of his old pace but too often seems to be playing within himself. Im starting to wonder if it would be better for him to move to new environments and get his old spark back.


4.) 01 Feb 2017 23:32:58
Sky did a stat, as we all love em haha but sturridge hasn't hit higher than 29 mph this season.

Previous seasons where 34/ 35's. Its that yard for me. Pace is still there tbh a lot of people have pace. Milnera, hendos etc (i jist mean even older and less pace renowned players) but not everyone has that 5 yard speed and if your game is built on it ala torres, sturridge. then this is what happens when it goes.

Love sturridge but the importance to success is forget connecting to the players.

We pay for them to perform if they canr perform they they can't play.

You can't just stixk with players because of sentitment and its something you have to lose if you want to get to the top.


 

 

 

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23 Feb 2017 11:31:27
As good as he could become we have origi who is our development striker. Anyone who comes in now needs to deliver 2 weeks before they sign. If we want to keep up wi5h the rest but still wish to develop youth then there's an academy for that.

First team ready players now.

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21 Feb 2017 11:53:49
Yeah on a free. Ask ed if he is avaliabke to play if he's signed.

Academy that produced pogba, payet and mahrez. There captain. Next big thing apparently. Ffing fingers crossed he's not ngog pt2.

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21 Feb 2017 11:52:36
Ruthless on footy man that lad.

Where screwed if the eds started giving us them for answers haha.

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19 Feb 2017 11:51:11
That was a joke about fifa btw haha

Surely didn't take that seriously.

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18 Feb 2017 21:48:39
Sorry ed just wondering wehter you had heard anything on the grapevine about him. Always my first purchase on fifa and wanting to buy someother players on fifa 18 haha

Cheers bud!

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26 Feb 2017 08:25:29
If coutinho goes into the middle 5hen what happens with lallana. don't underestimate the influence lallana has on our team. We take as big a down turn in form with him out the team as we do with mane. He is the press. The starter of it all. Cou can't do what we does.

You all like the idea of cou in the middoe for his passing but he's playes therebquite abit and never been aa porductive as he is on yhe left wing.

Costa wouls be brilliant addition on the left wing apart from th3 fact his game is very mjch on wicked crossing but we have no use for that. Also the reason he is out of favor is because he wants more money from bayern, that's a problem there because we can't match the likes of united or chelsea.

I would prioritise a lb, cm and gk.

And for goodness sake just throw gonez in be assed with another season of cup games for him.

In:
Gaya, Tielemans and Heaton

Team

Karius
Clyne Matip Gomez Gaya
Hendo Wij
Lallana
Mane Coutinho
Firmino

Heaton, Lovren, TAA, Tielemans, Milner, Ojo, Origi

Mignolet, Can, sturridge, woodburn, klavan, ings, lucas, moreno, markovic, grujic, ejaria, wilson are the other players in our squad.

TAA can play rb, cm and rm
Milner lb, cm, lm and false nine

So there both awesome to have on the bench.

Also just start giving ojo 20 minites a game. he's freakin awesome. Look at ake just got played. Meyer just got played. Brandt just got played. It the only way he will progress.

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25 Feb 2017 06:26:17
Club statement

We would just like to reiterate our commitment and unwavering support of our manager Claudio ranieri.

We would however like to inform you of our disappoint in a small faction of our players for requested we part ways with our manager.

This will not happen and we have had to withdraw those players from first team selection for the immediate future. The decision to bring them back into the fold will we left with Claudio.
, .

Maybe unconventional but what's worse when your a kid.

1/ getting a smack off your dad
2/ your nan finding out haha it's horrible

Tell the fans. Don't name names buts it will be position you could work it out from.

Noonez doing that again, and hopefully you don't have to sack anyone and you make ranieri even more the hero if he gives them another chance.

But what's done is done, there acrewed now because the title was won on hard work not just skill.

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{Ed001's Note - that is an excellent idea.}


 

 

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22 Feb 2017 20:38:28
Academy products are like throwing skittles on a table. A few might stay up but the rest will scatter around.

But just because there not at liverpool doesn't mean they qont forge greay careers.

Just don't follow them in my opinion because you will just send yourself crazy. Sit back and wait to see who comes through.

You could literally watch the youth all over and each and every week there will be a stand out perfromance and you will want them to be giving a shot.

Its just lunacy to think we could produce 7/ 8 players from all the age groups consitently year on year for the first team.

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21 Feb 2017 11:55:12
Issues hands off to klopp and cou or start negotiations for phils transfer : (

If he can't make it to anfield to enjoy football then surely he's not going 5o barca. Unless it was el classico.

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19 Feb 2017 15:19:08
Like we did the last time cy? What was it 7 signings? Howd that work out.

To many additions and you risk upsetti g the balance in the team, chemistry in the dressing room and potentially pissing players off who have worked there ass off to get to the champions league if you start just replacing them all.

1 or 2 additions at most.

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