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21 Nov 2017 13:47:45
Hi Eds/ All,

What is everyone's thoughts on less foreign player now coming through the youth system? What I mean to say is, are there less foreign and more players from England / Home Nations coming through most youth systems rather than stock piling of foreign youngers.

You look at Liverpool for example and the young players looking to break into the first team. Trent-Arnold, Gomez, Solanke and Woodburn.

Is this a result of changes in rules.


1.) 21 Nov 2017 14:21:05
It's always been mainly English players coming through, but the top clubs always seemed to sign 17-18 year olds from abroad which blocked the paths of the English lads.

With St George's Park, the new home grown rules, and just a general increase in the quality of English academies; we are now seeing more young English players come through.

20 years ago, the main decent academies in England were Everton, Man United, West Ham and Liverpool.

Nowadays you can add Chelsea, Southampton, Man City, Crewe, Arsenal, Crystal Palace, Fulham, Leicester and Tottenham to that list. Clubs seem to be putting more emphasis on developing there own players.

Sadly though, some clubs have given up on it because they are sick of developing players only to have them poached when they are good enough. Huddersfield are a prime example.

2.) 21 Nov 2017 14:31:56
I don't know of any significant rule change I would tend to look more towards the foreign players and the different styles of play having an influence on the younger home nation players which has been a positive. That coupled with the fact we have two sets of world cup winning English players!




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19 Aug 2018 08:51:46
Isn’t it more about player registration. There are 2 deadline a years, at the end of each window for players to be registered with the FA. If they are not registered by this date they cannot play for the club until the next registration window is open. The only except is free agents, who if they were a free agent at the registration deadline, they can sign and register for a club.


{Ed002's Note - No, it is as I said. It depends when he becomes a free agent. If, for example, Lazar Markovic were to come to agreement with Liverpool of October 1 that they were to end their relationship and he were to become a free agent, he cannot sign with Olympiakos until January 1 when the Greek transfer window opens. However, should Lazio decide they wish to sign Ross Turnbull, they can do so now as he was a free agent during the previous transfer window.}



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08 Jun 2018 21:40:58
Does he have a white bmw, because he was causing a massive traffic problem on the A1 this afternoon.




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09 Apr 2018 11:50:41
Surely Reading can't afford his wages? Although they need some help staying in the Championship.


{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced Fellaini could raise his game to reach Championship level.}



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07 Feb 2018 07:23:41
Seano_ Your point is backed up by the fact that you rarely see new refs just the same ones, the ones that make mistakes week in week out. I don't blames the refs fully, they have no performance level set to them by the FA, therefore they are unaffected by what the fans class as poor performance.




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14 Jan 2018 09:39:08
Brilliant rumour. Kudos for imagination.





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21 Aug 2018 14:01:45
I have to agree with LoweLFC, I would feel a red is justified if it was the other way around. If the refs start letting a player get away with that, then that will become the way to stop players who are past the last defender, run just behind them so there heel touches you foot etc.

The team only concede a free kick and and yellow card when actually it is most likely that the player will score.

The penalty was correct, Sakho also had a handful of his shirt, which was completely overlooked by all of the commentators/ pundits on TV, again, if its the other way around, I would not be aggrieved. Do not give the ref a decision to make.




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11 Feb 2018 14:24:51
The current standard or rules of football are set out by IFAB and inpretted by each football association thus making the sport consistent to all those who govern by it. The main people that hold the majority of the seats at that table are FIFA and the rest are made up by uk football Association. It’s been that way for a long time. If the new league is not governed by FIFA or the FA they do not have to abide by those rules. They could potentially change the game to suit a style or platform that they prefer, for example changing match lengths or ball size. I think u are incorrect about FIFA only being there to arrange international competitions.

This is all individual opinion, only time will tell if it does happen and if it is good or bad for the game. Personally I can’t see it being good for football but I am just one person with my own agenda and view. What I like about this site is it is a great platform for debate. Thank u for you time.


{Ed002's Note - They will abide by the rules of the game as they stand now and as are amended over time Piffmunda - it will not be like the 20-20 thing has done to cricket. That has already been agreed.

You seem to be clutching at some pretty extreme straws now.}



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11 Feb 2018 11:37:54
But that is my point. It’s outside of FIFA. Nothing like that has happened to a league this big. The Premier league is different in that it is still governed by the FA and overall FIFA which have a common standard of football.


{Ed002's Note - FIFA's primary role is to organise international competition. The Laws are the responsibility of a different body. Leagues are not associated with FIFA and a reorganised UEFA could certainly oversee a Pan European League.

I don't get your point, what "standards" of football do you see an issue with?



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11 Feb 2018 10:02:45
I know formats have changed over the years. I am not arguing that change should not happen, but the same premise has happened over all those years. Club can go from the bottom to the top, obviously we do not see it as much, but from what I can tell that will never happen again. The elite will already be decided, not by fans or opinion and not by right but by the elite. Fixed in place to play only the elite week in week out. Obviously there are many questions unanswered but the way I see it, they will be under no jurisdiction of current associations, therefore making their own rules voted for by clubs which only have money in mind. These clubs will then be outside of normal jurisdiction, not able to play the FA Cup and other domestic competitions. I think people underestimate the power of and intelligence of people, football is sat precariously the edge of a cliff that could result in its downfall and at the heart of the problem is greed. This is a continued example of that.

My own opinion is that it may not happen outside the remit of FIFA and therefore it may continue to use some of the rules of our current system but this must include promotion/ relegation of some form, it cannot be a locked in elite of clubs on an invite only basis.


{Ed002's Note - I think you have missed a few things here. Firstly they will need a governing body and UEFA would obviously like to take that role. One way or the other that will be resolved, even if it is eventually outside of FIFA (as some are). The league will be formed in exactly the same was as the Premier League was formed - a decision by the clubs in the old First Division to "break away" (from what was then the Football League) and form their own league - so it is exactly the same. They will not be changing and Laws of the game. There will be no obligation for promotion/obligation and I have explained that may eventually changeed - and there is no FIFA ruling that mandates that needs to happen.}



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11 Feb 2018 09:11:38
I have to agree with others about it not sticking long term. I for one will not be watching, I will cancel my tv subscription and go and watch my local team play or even better will go and watch rugby which is a much more honest and friendly place.

I can see it working in the short term but after a while the teams which do less well in the breakaway league will loose there glamour, Man U fans will not want to see there team spanked week in week out and be at the bottom of the table. PSG will loose there appeal when they are not able to win the league. The league over time will be become uncompetitive, boring and predictable, the same couple of teams that come make more revenue will come out top every year and those teams which used to be at the top in there respective country and now just mid table in a rich boys league which will have no pull to attract new fans.

This will be bad for football, I know the current status is not as good at is could be and the money is causing an issue but we do have a competitive league where no one team dominates. The likes of Watford can stun us with wins over the top boys, we can see thrashing at the Emirates, of arsenal anyway.


{Ed002's Note - Piffa: You are missing the point that there is a need for a natural progression away from what we have now and conceptually it is not considerably different from the elagues across Europe aside from relegation/promotion - and realistically clubs like Watford, Swansea, Burnley et al do not go on to challenge seriously in the Premier League at all. Periodically things change - the Premier League didn't even exist until 1992 but I guess a lot of readers are young and don't recall the previous structure. UEFA didn't exist until the mid 1950s and the Champions League has regularly changed formats.

There are a lot of questions above in other posts that have not been answered. To try and pick off a few:
Supersalah: Liverpool are not part of this - and nobody cares about the ridiculous "European Royalty" claim.
Mikey: Fans of most European sides are far less insular that the Liverpool supporters who largely live in the past.
Ron: It will be no different than the Premier League where there are a limited number of clubs who can realistically win it - but the number, looking at the clubs, is not just three or four like the Premier League. From the overall group of "elite" clubs involved two have already declared they won't be involved with any Breakaway and another three are sat on the fence - leaving for now the 16 I spoke of.}