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15 Nov 2016 21:48:25
Iago Aspas, take a bow son.




06 Nov 2016 20:44:36
Best wishes to Robin Van Persie, who has suffered the permanent loss of sight in one eye after an horrific football injury.

No matter who he played for, nobody wants anything like that to happen. In his prime he was an outstanding player.


{Ed001's Note - agreed, poor bugger doesn't deserve that.}

1.) 06 Nov 2016 20:54:09
Fenerbahce club doctor has said he's torn his eyelid and he has not sustained any damage to his vision.

2.) 06 Nov 2016 20:59:43
Happened to Momo Sissoko 😟.

3.) 06 Nov 2016 21:08:15
Hope it's true that he will not lose any vision. I was posting from Facebook link that said he would not see out of the eye again. Wishing him a speedy recovery.

4.) 06 Nov 2016 20:51:34
Poor bugger. That's awful. How did it happen?

5.) 06 Nov 2016 21:15:19
Ohh God! That's terrible news. Hope he recovers soon.

{Ed001's Note - turns out he hasn't lost his sight, or at least his club are now denying it. Some shocking scenes though as he was left stranded for about 20 minutes as the ambulance driver had apparently lost his keys! Sometimes the news reports filtering through seem utterly unbelievable.}

6.) 06 Nov 2016 22:09:22
Let's hope his vision is ok, not nice that at all, no matter what.

7.) 07 Nov 2016 09:20:05
That has me in serious laughter. There's nothing funny about van persie's injury but the ambulance driver losing his keys whilst someone needs medical attention is something else.



31 Oct 2016 19:33:49
Correct me if I'm wrong but when has Coutinho said he wants to go? Barcelona or Psg may well come in with bids but why does anyone think he will automatically leave? FSG must make sure he is rewarded to stop the trail of top players leaving a large Torres, Suarez and Sterling. If we don't get Champions League next season I could maybe understand it. If we do, just maybe he will want to stay at a club where he is happy and appreciated under one of the best Managers operating in Europe at the moment.

It seems like people are wishing him away and it could become a self-fulfilling profesy. Also, those who think Klopp can just go out and sign someone to replace him are deluded. If it was that easy, why don't Barcelona and PSG just go out and sign them for a lot less money than Coutinho would cost.


1.) 31 Oct 2016 19:51:17
It's because Coutinho has told other players in the Brazil side that he would like a move to Barcelona or maybe PSG.

Also his agent is one who likes to do deals.

I don't worry too much though because Klopp does have the ability to bring in new talent and with Champions League football on offer he will get the backing to bring in players who will complement the team.

We are not going to fall apart if Coutinho goes.

Clearly we want our best players to want to stay and play but if they or their agents want to negotiate a transfer then we get the best deal we can and we move on.

Klopp is building a red machine and he will be successful with or without Coutinho.

2.) 31 Oct 2016 20:22:38

When are you selling Firmino? You seems very confident we are better without him?

3.) 31 Oct 2016 20:59:58
I agree that we don't want to be a selling club and the more successful we are on the pitch the less chance of losing players to offers from other sides.

However getting players from Brazil and other South American countries always seems to carry a risk that teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid will come calling.

Klopp had said we will not be a selling club but if a player really does want a move then whoever it is we should look to move him on as the players have to be committed to the club and if they aren't then let them go.

The trick is to get to the position where we have great players and none of them want to leave because there is no where better for them to go to and under Klopp we might just be able to get to that situation. then we can say we are back on our effing perch!

4.) 31 Oct 2016 21:27:00
End of the day he's still a Liverpool player, let's enjoy it.

5.) 31 Oct 2016 22:52:36
Not bothered about any speculation on the first team players' future, don't see anything happening in January. I suspect that the biggest factor in any potential transfer is what we achieve this season, he's still young and has plenty of time left in his career, and I also feel he would want to represent us in the Champions League if we made it. All conjecture for now though so I wouldn't pay any attention to the rumours.

6.) 01 Nov 2016 00:34:09
The difference now is Jurgen won't let anyone go on the cheap if they jockey for a move away. Win win.

7.) 01 Nov 2016 01:40:33
If coutinho leaves that's me done with these owners and I will not like any player again . The point is if the big boys come come in for coutinho he will go for big man because fsg has proven it . People will say he wanted to leave but I don't see coutinho as the money person I see him as a person who what's to win trophies and so why can't we do that. Klopp has manger a club before who sell his best players so I would not be worried if he goes but we should say no . I don't care if he what's to leave. He had a great start of the season 6 goals 8 assist we can't lose that leval of player he is only going to get better.

{Ed001's Note - I take it you weren't a fan when Rush was sold to Juve then?}

8.) 01 Nov 2016 03:19:42
I really hope we don't sell and also hope if we get CL he'll still be tempted to stay (particularly given his growing partnership with Firmino) . I also expect if Barcelona come calling he'll jump at the chance (as would most) and unfortunately/ fortunately he's also probably doing enough right now to have raised their attention.

If he does go though, it had better be because he wants to himself rather than for any financial reasons. It'll be hard to replace his ability to do the unexpected (even though I feel with Firmino and Mane around we're better placed than ever to cope) .

9.) 01 Nov 2016 12:24:27
No ed only 23 . The first player who broke my heart was Owen . Fowler was next then Torres now I don't have a heart so they can't do that lol.

{Ed001's Note - Liverpool have never been the richest club and always been at risk of losing our biggest stars to those that are richer. Our success was built on being the best team, not the best individual players.}



16 Oct 2016 17:19:24
Anonymous Woolback calling people imbeciles for having reservations about Karius, have you actually watched Karius pre-season and since he came back from injury? He hasn't had much to do, so has not been able to make any save of note yet. However, the rest of it has been scary, both with the ball at his feet and dealing with crosses, or should I say standing on his line and bottling having to deal with crosses.
If he plays tomorrow, I predict we will concede at least one goal from s cross related error as Mourinho targets him in the air with Fellini, Pogba, Ibrahimovic and Smelling. I can also see him being caught with the ball at his feet, possibly by Martial.

I am not trying to get at Karius, just pointing out that Karius has done nothing to suggest he is ready for a game of this magnitude. By the way, I still think we could win, even conceding 2 goals.
Anonymous Woolback is probably one of those people who screamed for Spearing, Clady and Flanagan because they are Scousers, when 2 were nowhere near good enough and the other will never be the same after injury.


1.) 16 Oct 2016 18:19:24
Karius isn't scouse so don't understand your point there, he is however a better option than migs.

2.) 16 Oct 2016 19:19:34
Ah yes, putting words in my mouth over a completely unrelated argument to karius. Maybe i should have reserved the word 'imbecile' for people who make comments such as that.

These aren't just reservations over karius, and not once have i ever said he has been great and is a great player. The reality is i haven't seen enough of him to do that. And neither have the 'fans' that are assuming after 3 games they know all about the ability of a young goalkeeper adapting to a new country who has just recovered from injury.

I don't know whether he is good enough or not but i haven't even thought about that because he is settling in and has been about 5 minutes. Even the games he has played he has had virtually nothing to do. So anybody who claims they have come to a conclusion on his ability is just wrong. You haven't seen enough, nobody has.

What has really shocked me however is that in these 3 games where he hasn't even made a mistake that has led to a goal (which mignolet has consistently done for 3 years and cost us countless games and even trophies) is that people almost seemingly want him to be bad. They are willing him to not be good enough.

I am not trying to be a 'super fan' or even pretend i know better than anybody else but anybody bashing our new goalkeeper after 3 games on social media, just stop it. Shut up. Quite frankly some of the comments on the matchday chats and on twitter have been outright embarrassing and if i heard anybody say that in persob i wouldn't give them the time of day. That is not support. That isn't even constructive criticism. Its just wrong.

Even then, let's say you are right and he is a bit dodgy after first joining us. what's the point in putting mignolet in anyway? He has let us down a countless number of times over his liverpool career, and while he has been okay this year, he is still not the answer. We might as well play karius and even if he makes a mistake, he will learn. He will grow as a player. We can at least try and make him progress. Mignolet makes a mistake and he will not learn, he has proven this. He will just carry on. At least playing karius whether he is good or not will be productive in some way. The guy hasn't even made a mistake that has led to a goal yet so i still don't know why everyone is so scared, especially when mignolet is the atatus quo and only other alternative.

Overall though your post just seems like i have ruffled your feathers and rhetorically asking me whethwr i have actually seen karius play means you clearly didn't read my initial post properly. I haven't seen enough of karius, nobody has. The difference is, i support. I want him to be good. I expect him to make mistakes. He is out new goalkeeper and i want to see him develop. Whereas you seemingly want him to fail, throwing your toys out of the pram over a few dodgy passes and catches, resorting to irrelvant innaccurate digs at my opinions. God knows why you attribute your username to klopp when you want to bring on the failure of the players he has signed.

3.) 16 Oct 2016 20:14:03
Kloppo, your post makes no sense. You say you saw Karius play in preseason and he hasn't had a save to make of not so you could not judge him yet in the same post, you go on to judge him, saying we will concede by a cross if he plays. Complete nonsense. Have you been under a rock for the past eighteen months where we have been conceding goals from crosses and set pieces WAY before Karius got here or are you going to act like that never happened? Where have you been when Mingo has cost us games and points and dare I say, nearly cost us the Capital One cup due to his error of getting beaten at his near post by Fernandinho or did you conveniently forget all that? Many of us and Klopp do not have short memories. Karius will be given time to develop just like Mingo was given time, time he wasted being a flop and you will have to get over it, mate. Also, don't care if Karius concedes from a cross provided he is not at fault for the goal happening but you'll prolly find a way to blame him for it.

4.) 16 Oct 2016 22:32:20
Karius has been brought in because he is clearly seen as a more capable keeper than Mignolet. He needs to be kept confident and given a run of games. Even if Mignolet looks in better form at the moment, taking Karius out now would be a terrible idea for the long term future of our GK situation.

5.) 16 Oct 2016 23:48:42
Flanno is ace.

6.) 16 Oct 2016 23:54:40
Disagree on one point, Lfc. Mingo is not in any kind of fine form and hasn't been that for eighteen months as he has cost us points, goals and games throughout his time here. I do agree that Karius is his guy and he should stick with him. Chopping and changing gk's is NOT the way forward. We need to support him like many of us supported Mingo until he lost it due to his own incompetence as a GK. But is see that many aren't prepared to do that, which is a huge shame, IMO.

7.) 17 Oct 2016 01:15:30
Don't get I really don't. So much abuse on here previously regarding Migs. Now we have a new keeper people are saying drop him for the United game. Ok we haven't seen enough of Karius to know, but it a new country, new club and new football league. Let's give him a chance. No doubt he is going to make mistakes. But hopefully he is the future

On a brighter note nervous about tomorrow but can't wait for the game.



15 Oct 2016 22:28:01
Regarding the goalkeeping situation for Monday night, I think Mignolet must come back. I've got nothing against Karius and really hope that he can become a truly great keeper for Liverpool for many years to come. However, I believe that to play him against Utd could be s step too early and could even hinder his development if something goes wrong.

When we signed him I'd never heard of him and had certainly never seen him play. So I was looking forward to seeing him play pre-season to judge for myself. I have seen many posters on here, who have probably also never seen him play, making out that he is the answer to all our problems.

In pre-season, he was hardly tested but 3 incidents stood out. One, he let a back pass roll under his foot and had to hurriedly dive on the ball to prevent a goal. Two, the first cross he faced, he flapped at it and got nowhere near the ball. Three, he came out for another cross, punched Lovren in the head and broke his hand. When he got his chance in the Premiership, he looked a bag of nerves, still flapping at crosses and hardly inspiring confidence. I also read posts on here trying to justify his place by saying his kicking was an improvement on Mignolet. I saw one miskick barely make the centre circle as it bounced along the ground. A few others went out of touch and when he was put under pressure with the ball at his feet, he looked even dodgier than Mignolet.

If he plays on Monday. Mourinho will target him for sure. I stress once again that I am not trying to get at Karius, it's just that I cannot believe the number of posters on here pushing his claims when they have hardly seen him play.


1.) 15 Oct 2016 23:25:17
I don't know what you mean by targeting Migs. With Zlatan in the side UTD will lump the ball to him without a doubt.

2.) 16 Oct 2016 00:03:42
You have a solid arguement but Karius can't be any worse than Migs imo and needs the experience, every keeper makes mistakes, everybody does. he deserves his chance this lad in my opinion, i'd be more worried if migs was on.

3.) 16 Oct 2016 01:36:51
De Gea's first season in the prem was awful and now he's probably the best keeper in the league. Give Karius a break cause sometimes it can take players time to adjust even keepers.

4.) 16 Oct 2016 02:28:41
I agree with kloppometor. We all want Karius to do well but Migs has more experience under his belt which could be vitally important vs Utd.

5.) 16 Oct 2016 09:02:56
Was just about to say the same about de gea. now he is one of the best in the world. also surely dropping karius would affect his confidence. u talk of experience but migs has been in the prem how many years now and is still a liability. he pulls off some great saves without doubt but it's the unforced errors which to me are his downfall. a steady run of games will build karius confidence and if we keep on winning then him and the whole teams will just increase.

6.) 16 Oct 2016 09:58:12
Hahahaha you guys . hahaha haaaaa.

7.) 16 Oct 2016 11:59:03
Klopp did not sign Karius to be his number one goalkeeper so he could wrap him in cotton wool away from the pressure of being an LFC keeper and omit him from the starting 11 against United. With all due respect, that is just absurd. If you want Karius to develop, then denying him the experience of an intense, high octane fixture is just stupid.




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30 Apr 2017 09:52:26
Maguire is the one for me. I posted about him a few weeks ago and all the evidence was highlighted on MOTD last night.

His reading of the game and his ability to be in the right place are exceptional - just what we need.


{Ed001's Note - MOTD? Says it all, their analysis is lacking in any substance without Hansen. He was under no pressure at all yesterday, Palace were dreadful, he did the same thing he does every week, charge out with the ball, except Palace just stood and watched so he could take his time and pick a pass. Usually he is pressured and gives the ball away. He is not top class at all. I would rather go for genuine left sided centre backs in Mee or Gibson personally. Neither are MOTD highlight reel players, but both are better defenders.}



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18 Apr 2017 15:16:53
Lucas should be given a testimonial and a new 2 year contract. He is still one of the best holding midfielders in the game and can also do a decent job at the back.

Also, he seems to have taken over the Gerrard mantle of settling new players into the club and giving good advice to the youngsters. As a dedicated professional he is also well respected in the dressing room.

For someone who came from another continent at a young age and was asked to change his natural position, he overcame dogs abuse at first to become the best in his position in the country. After a serious injury he has fought back to be a valuable player in the squad. For me, he was MOM in the Derby game, overshadowing the much-vaunted Guaye.

On top of all that, he actually really loves the club and there are not many you can say that about these days.




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11 Apr 2017 21:18:01
The problem with football these days is that the Doctors think they pick the team. Hats off to Coutinho for his positive attitude and nonsense to all that red zone, orange zone, green zone crap.




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11 Apr 2017 21:14:18
They were here for a night out with Barkley.





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26 Apr 2017 22:20:25
I don't have rose tinted specs on Ed25, but if you think Lucas is poor in the air, you need to get down to Specsavers yourself. For his size he is way above average in the air.

If you look at all the defensive midfielders in the country, they all give away free kicks around the box - it's called 'breaking up play' and you have to tackle to give away a free kick, and he puts in more tackles than anyone else in the team. Also, the refs these days give a free kick fir breathing on someone.

I'll agree that he is not the fastest but he has overcome a serious injury to come back. Serious injuries can slow down any player - just look at Sturridge. Lucas reads the game better than most and this can compensate for losing a yard of pace.

Getting back to the original point, can we ask the readers? Press AGREE if you think Lucas is good in the air and DISAGREE if you think he is poor.


{Ed025's Note - good in the air for his size is the biggest cop out ever so no need to go there, it the same as saying hes the best player with the first name of lucas to represent brazil, i wont change your opinion as it seems you think that sturridge is not performing because of a previous injury and not because he just cant be arsed, so im afraid we will have to agree to disagree on this one mate..



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26 Apr 2017 20:52:36
Ed25, have you ever watched Lucas play? He's still one of the best defensive midfielders in the League. I know he's not a regular but he always does a job when he is called upon. With our track record of injuries that will probably be quite a lot next season when we are in Europe as well.


{Ed025's Note - i actually watch a lot of liverpool games mate and to be honest hes not all that for me, he gives away a lot of needless free kicks and gets done for pace a lot, hes poor in the air as well and i dont actually get what he contributes to the side...mind you i dont wear red tinted specs so maybe if i get myself a pair i might see what you see.. :)



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24 Apr 2017 19:50:17
I'd feel more confident if our last 4 games were against Chelsea, Spurs, City and Utd.

Those are the games where we come out of the traps fighting from the first minute. They also give us more space to play.

When we play lower teams we start at a poor tempo, passing endlessly from side to side and never get into the game until it's too late.




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24 Apr 2017 19:25:24
Origi has great ability but he is so frustrating as he doesn't put himself about enough and he doesn't seem have a football brain.




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17 Apr 2017 21:51:55
Mark my words, Ward will never come back and get a game for Liverpool. Even if he did, why wouldn't he fight it out with Mignolet? What's Karius done to deserve suddenly be the one to fight it out?