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01 May 2015 16:44:42
Call me ignorant but I don't call Cheryshev a Marquee signing and have no idea why we'd spend another 18mln on a young winger when we have Ibe, Markovic, Sterling and Ojo, Wilson, Kent and others in youth setup. Depay on the other hand would really improve the team and can play backup/second striker and I would call Marquee.

Eds, are we really looking at Cheryshev please or just someone trying to talk up his value?


{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid have had a few approaches from clubs interested interested in taking winger Denis Cheryshev on loan or permanently this summer with Kuban Krasnodar and Real Sociedad both requesting a price. Previous interest from Everton went with David Moyes. Zenit and Metalist Kharkiv dropped whatever interest they had. As for Liverpool, he may well be an option to replace Raheem Sterling if he were to leave, but I am certain there has been no bid at this time. }

1.) 01 May 2015 23:31:27
Thanks, think it's the last thing we need, doesn't fill a critical gap and another unproven youngster.

2.) 03 May 2015 04:15:02
BR is the same guy who says he is building a squad withe money he blows, then says we need marquee players then, he is interested in this Russian kid who is NOT a marquee signing. Moral of the story? If a man talks too much, he lies a lot. He talks so much that he doesn't remember what he actually hence, sounds dumb.



05 Jan 2015 13:53:49
Hi eds, if we lose Lucas and Gerard over the summer, what's the long term plan in centre midfield? Can and Henderson would make sense and perhaps llalana or Coutinho in if we play three? Any idea what BR's plans are for Allen?



{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what the plans are for Allen but Liverpool have a lot of midfield players already. Much will depend on what happens management wise.}

1.) 05 Jan 2015 14:24:15
A fairly well balanced midfield three would be Henderson, Lallana and Can, with a front three of Coutinho, Sterling and Sturridge.

2.) Agree 100%, would like ideally to see a strong DM option (or keep Lucas) to sub in as required. Lucas, Can and Hendo would be a great defensive three while Can, Hendo and Llalana a great balanced/attacking midfield.

{Ed002's Note - Folks need to stop listing players/teams here otherwise the thread will be deleted.}

3.) To the original post I can only hope Allen moves on. Watching many games this season, he lacks pace tracking back, lacks strength. For a passing possession player he seems to lose the ball often and I can't recall him making a forward pass over 6yrds? I also can't recall a single assist?

Seems like a nice bloke but purely football he is nowhere good enough. Wouldn't expect a fee of over £5m either, a complete waste of funds. Depending on how Balotelli turns out, Allen is for me our worst ever purchase

4.) 05 Jan 2015 18:05:33
agreed! allen is a shocking player.

5.) 05 Jan 2015 22:41:29
I still think the best midfield displays I've seen in Rodgers time were two games we lost last season- Man City and Chelsea over the festive period. Our midfield was Lucas, Allen & Henderson. Those three completely shut down City & Chelsea's midfield with the combined pressing of Henderson & Allen and Lucas sitting behind and reading the game.


6.) 08 Jan 2015 00:16:03
Hi guys, I work for a football stats company and can tell you that Allen has both a deceptively high pass completion rate for a midfielder over the last two seasons (87.09%), and also has won more duels than Gerrard. He gets bashed more than he should




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15 Jan 2017 20:57:54
I'll take that despite their late goal - a point against an in form Utd and we looked like we were really up for the fight and also moved the ball quicker through midfield. I also thought we were better with Firmino upfront. Firmino just seems to bring something to our pressing game and you could immediately see him and Coutinho starting to click again.

Both sides created good chances and probably a fair result. Only 7 behind Chelsea and hopefully with Coutinho and Hendo back we can start to find a bit of the form of earlier in the season.


1.) 16 Jan 2017 04:53:21
Firmino is out of the world. The guy runs and presses with the same high intensity and energy levels from the first minute till the last. The guy reminds me of Cafu, the legendary Brazilian RB who played as if he had two hearts (Fergie`s words) up and down the right flank through out his career. His perf today shows why Studge will never play ahead of him in games where the press will be crucial.

{Ed025's Note - hes a good player hamilton, i dont know about "out of this world" but hes a grafter all right..

2.) 16 Jan 2017 07:44:31
he would be out of this world IF he could finish HR, what a great chance he passed up when couts put him through, his current record is 1 in the last 12 and that's not good enough mate, sturridge may not work as hard but at least he can finish, thankfully countinho is back and as we saw yesterday he makes such a difference to us.

3.) 16 Jan 2017 08:31:51
He will be out of this world if he learns to take his chanced

4.) 16 Jan 2017 10:55:41
A lot of people keep saying Sturridge can finish and would have finished this chance or that, but in all honesty we haven't seen that Sturridge for a while, walks around the pitch, spends far too much time outside the box, makes no runs in behind any more, thinks he can take everyone on and twist and turn out of trouble only to lose the ball, and predominantly shoots from outside the box. When was the last time we saw him run full pelt, with or without the ball? This has nothing to do with
Unfortunately I think the injuries have taken their toll on Sturridge, this isn't a Sturridge bashing post, it more a concern that we may have seen the best of him, hopefully he'll prove me wrong, but his recent performances have left me feeling underwhelmed and frustrated and I just don't see him being around next season.

5.) 16 Jan 2017 13:58:20
If you could mix the 2 of them together.

Carlsberg don't do strikers.

6.) 16 Jan 2017 20:44:35
Maybe I did not clarify my post. I meant Bobbie is out of this world regarding his unbelievable work rate and ability to maintain his high energy levels for 95 mins hence, the comparison with Cafu.

{Ed025's Note - i will have that hamilton..



03 Jan 2017 07:20:25
Hi eds (particularly 001 and 002), am interested in your perspectives on Emre Can please.

There have been times when I've been hugely impressed by his potential, mostly
1) when he played RCB under BR for a while
2) when at the base of a 4-2-3-1 but only when alongside Hendo who's mobility, positional sense and passing range complemented his physicality and tank like runs from deep very well

Of late however he seems a bit lost and seems to lack either
1) the mobility, positional sense and passing vision to replace Hendo in our 4-3-3, and/ or
2) he lacks the slick movement of Llalana/ efficiency of Wijnaldum further forward, and his slowness on the ball is proving a blocker rather than an enabler for the forwards

Question is do you see this as just part of his learning curve given he's so young, or do you also worry our current style of play doesn't actually make the most of his strengths and he'll continue to struggle as you can't teach the mobility and agility that our system requires (similar to Benteke for example)


{Ed001's Note - you can develop mobility and agility, but he doesn't need to do so, he can just develop his play to offer us a different option for different opponents. The issue is the slowness on the ball, similar to Lallana in previous seasons, where he is not quite in tune with his team mates. That should be something he can learn. It really depends on his ability to evolve and develop himself. Players can be under the best coach in the world and learn nothing. It is up to them to take the lessons from each training session and match and learn from them.

Right now, Can is not learning, but he is still young and players regularly do go through these downturns in form. Their body has matured, to a large degree, but their mind has got nowhere near that same development level. That is what Can needs to focus on, developing his mind to read the game better, as his reading of the game is appalling, hence why he struggled so badly (despite you being impressed by him) at centre back as soon as anyone actually targeted him.}

1.) 03 Jan 2017 08:48:54
He needs to learn it quick. There are enough players in the academy who are crying out for a chance. Not a big fan of him and I don't know what he brings to the team other than his physique So does sissokho and Wanyama. He has one good game and then go missing for months.
Can has no discipline to play the deeper role nor he displace Lallana or Wiji playing higher up. Klopp is struggling to fit him into the team.

2.) 03 Jan 2017 09:11:35
Emre was poor, is he overweight? Does he look like a long term solution in that position. No. but he's got time on his hands to change.
Did we not win the game because of him? No I don't think so, we did not create enough clear chances considering the domination of possession and shots on goal.
Yes they scored 2 penalties but on another day we would of scored 4.
Lallana dropping deep didn't help as his speed in and around the box was missed, sturridge played well but no one seemed to want to ride his wave and up their game.

3.) 03 Jan 2017 09:31:35
Thanks for the reply Ed - much appreciated and hope he can step up quickly. He has much work to do to fit in the current setup.

Right now I'd rather see Stewart (DM) or Grujic/ Ejaria (further forward) on the team sheet in a 4-3-3, and that's saying a lot given Can is already a capped international player and how much potential I thought he had 12 months ago.

That is unless we go back to a 4-2-3-1 and play him alongside Gini or Stewart.

{Ed001's Note - I am sure he will learn given time.}

4.) 03 Jan 2017 10:01:26
Emre has shown enough quality at times. This is the point of a squad. You are right in that there are others from the Academy or on the fringes of the 1st XI and the Bench that will fight him for his place.
He is definitely not a bad player and I like him in the squad. Nobody is a complete player at 21 or consistently good at that age. The only one who delivers constantly is Delli. and we missed out on him.

5.) 03 Jan 2017 10:07:59
If we don't have Hendo available I think that Stewart should absolutely be starting in front of the defence, not Can. For me, Can plays when he's preferred to Gini or he doesn't play atm, that's the job he does.

6.) 03 Jan 2017 10:17:55
Eric Dier learned that role in less than what 12 months and was arguably the best player last season at the base. I know many don't rate him but he did learn that role magnificently.

{Ed001's Note - Eric Dier had played there before. He came through a youth system that teaches players a number of positions.}

7.) 03 Jan 2017 10:20:54
I agree Harry but I think there's more to him then what we are currently seeing.

8.) 03 Jan 2017 10:36:41
People need to give players time and one or two bad games does mean he's rubbish. You going to get this with young players.

9.) 03 Jan 2017 14:49:17
Ed is spot on. Emre is still a young player and he`s going through what young players go through in their development. To me until he figures things out, he is not a Klopp- type DM for the reasons Ed and others have presented cos he simply is not there yet in his development or is maybe trying to find his best position in midfield.

However, his qualities are more than useful. If he plays next to a DM like Hendo, he is more effective as he can get forward and press, score or assist as he has shown he has that in his locker this season.

I think he should play next to a DM due to his lack of awareness, speed of thought and positional sense, all things needed in order to play the DM position especially, the way Hendo plays it which is exactly how Klopp wants it to be played.

10.) 03 Jan 2017 17:22:12
I have one wish for Can, he needs to develop "coolness" as Klopp would say. He needs to be more composed in possession.

11.) 03 Jan 2017 18:56:43
Spot on eds, I first noticed his exceptionally bad reading of the game while he was playing with Germany. He was well off the pace and not near the level of the German national team.
Anyway, he has not developed at all in the last year or so from what I can see.
I was really excited by his potential when he came in but when you see no progression you start to question.
He's still very very young so I hope in a year or even two he can grow into the player he can Potentially be.



01 Jan 2017 01:42:54
Loved watching that win - not for the football which was scrappy as, but for the way we showed we can nullify some of the best attacking players in the league and go win a completely different way to vs. Stoke. That sort of versatility is needed in a title winning side as you can't always win playing pretty football, and sometimes it's about grit and heart and just not rolling over when under pressure. Up the reds!


1.) 01 Jan 2017 02:48:04
Zimbo, I can't help but arrogantly think that we're still winning games playing at our lowest.

2.) 01 Jan 2017 03:41:02
Exactly zimbo. I'm not expecting us to win the league, but we are definitely in a good position to go and fight for it. I can't wait for us to play in the Champions League again next season.

3.) 01 Jan 2017 06:00:19
Yeah agree zimbo, in seasons past we've crumbled at points like this, pivotal games going the wrong way, so good to see us get the win today, I don't expect the title, but top 3 or pos 2?

4.) 01 Jan 2017 08:09:23
G. neville wanted to see us pull a result not playing at our best, hopefully that suffice for him! Not that hia opinion really matters!

5.) 01 Jan 2017 09:11:35
Why worry about what Ratman says. The best moment of 2016,watching him fail at Valencia.

6.) 01 Jan 2017 09:17:29
We've dealt with quite a bit of pressure recently.
Most times we've gone out 9 points behind with a game in hand and won.
We're not letting Chelsea get away quite so easily. Hopefully Senegal get trashed in the AFCON and Mane can come back for the Chelsea match 😉.

7.) 01 Jan 2017 09:25:54
Ye ron, hard to know what mentality the lads really go into each game with given we've played after chelsea a lot recently. But either way they have responded well.



17 Sep 2016 07:36:34
Great game and as lots have commented already the CBs were outstanding, fullbacks solid, Hendo was MOM for me, everywhere and a stunning finish. Further forward Widjnaldum continues to steadily improve and was a real engine, giving Chelsea no time on the ball while Llalana, Coutinho, Sturridge and Mane all looked good. Only average player IMO was Migs who continues to look sluggish on the ball. He also flaps occasionally but at least he's being more decisive and clearing out players in his way a bit more often and to be fair has also made a few decent saves in the last couple of games. Much better than previous season but Karius should still be given a shot.

One of the biggest positives of last few months is we really seem to have improved on defensive set pieces. How many times did we crumble under pressure due to conceding off crosses or corners before, but now with Matip in there, Lovren a bit more confident, keeper coming out etc. I don't feel that sense of panic when we are facing a dangerous free kick. It's a big factor in making sure the opposition don't always feel they've got a chance due to Liverpool having a soft underbelly.

Good game lads, now let's make sure we capitalise but putting Hull away.


1.) 17 Sep 2016 08:17:27
Great goal hendo so happy to see our captain score a brilliant goal well done mate.



13 Sep 2016 23:34:23
A few late thoughts on the Leicester game

1) movement of the front three was superb
- Sturridge pulled wide left to create space for the first, ran off the defenders shoulder for the second and cut in from the right wing for the third
- Manes cut in from right wing for his goal, ran from central misfield to left wing for Firminos second
- Firmino was everywhere
Wouldn't want to have been Leicestershire back 4

2) midfield worked and Wij/ Llalana gave Hendo decent cover tackling back but also good runs going forward. I'm still not convinced it's solid enough against the likes of City but well best I've seen from those 2

3) Hendo was outstanding, great balls for Sturridge's assist and Mane's break and kept it very neat at the back

4) well played to he back 4.will ignore Lucas's error as a slip but other than that looked excellent and marshalled Vardy well

Coutinho could have a problem getting back into the side if he's not careful, his movement at left wing isn't nearly as good as Firminos. i'd like to see him in midfield next game.


1.) 13 Sep 2016 23:45:06
Its a good problem to have all the same Zimbo. Nice to see good players on the bench if Liverpool need them.

2.) 14 Sep 2016 00:18:53
How times have changed, we've gone from Jovanovic and Poulsen under Hodgson, to debating whether Coutinho should be benched or not under Klopp. It is a very nice problem to have and shows the progress we've made as a club.

3.) 14 Sep 2016 00:40:48
Coutinho LCM


4.) 14 Sep 2016 01:38:48
I think that would work against the weaker sides Haych but against the stronger sides where we might face periods of sustained pressure we might struggle a bit defensively. I'd be tempted for a bit more strength in midfield and play Can, Hendo and Coutinho.

Can is still developing as a deeper lying midfielder but with Hendo alongside him to direct play, cover his runs and help his defensive positioning I think we'll be a bit more solid than with Llalana.

That leaves Origi, Ings, and Llalana to sub on upfront and Wijnaldum, Grujic, Stewart for the midfield, all good options to be able to call on.

I think Klopps done a fantastic job this window to give us this sort of competition for places without spending a fortune.

5.) 14 Sep 2016 03:33:17
agree lil magician, there was even someone on here after the Burnley game stating that's this is the worst Liverpool team they had seen in 20 years. we have for the first time in years a very strong bench and have the flexibility to adapt if needed.

6.) 14 Sep 2016 06:24:30
Drop Wij and replace with Coutinho all day long. Henderson is starting to look good again, me personally, would go 4-4-2. Not seeing enough of Origi though for my liking.

7.) 14 Sep 2016 01:18:53
I think Wiz offers us a lot where he is and shouldn't be brought out of the side to accommodate another playerror playing out of position. None of the players deserve to be yanked after the last match. i'm counting on Coutinho to give us his best whether he starts on the bench or not this weekend.

8.) 14 Sep 2016 16:13:34
Klopp is building a squad that even when changes are made, there will be no drop off in team performance. We spent hundreds of millions on squads where only two or three playes where stand outs. that is not what Klopp is doing. There will be standouts no question BUT the they stand out because they work within the team setup and not for their individual brilliance. It will be the team working as a unit that will make them stand out, not the other way around.




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15 Jan 2017 15:42:54
Just ridiculous. he wasn't in their squad in the end - why don't we just play him? Surely it's up to players whether they want to play in their international teams or not - what's FIFA going to do, force people to play against their will?




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14 Jan 2017 04:14:03
Southampton is a very credible and well run club - maybe not a CL side but not far off. West Ham is in a mess.




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14 Jan 2017 04:12:56
I would also say GBP 60-70 million but still no interest in selling as he's worth more to us. Him and Firmino together should be the base of our attack for years to come - they have the potential to be telepathic and unstoppable if we give them time together. They think and move the same way, yet are still complementary in style.




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11 Jan 2017 15:53:47
I don't think Can is that good up the pitch myself - yes he's good at surging into space but against an organised defence he's not mobile enough or quick enough on the ball yet, and he's also not a natural goal scorer.

That's not to say he can't get there but he's nowhere near a Llalana or Wijnaldum and I'd also rather see Coutinho drop into midfield, or a Grujic or Ejaria or even Brannagan play that role over Can right now.

That's not to say he'll never develop into a player there though as he's clearly talented, but there's some way to go yet based on previous games.

Neither is he yet comfortable as the sole deep lying playmaker role Hendo is fulfilling, but I do think he'd be good at the base of a 4-2-3-1 with a more mobile defensive partner (either Hendo or Stewart) who can cover him if necessary. I think he looks much more comfortable sitting a little deeper (ie having a bit more time on the ball) with someone alongside him to cover any runs he makes from deep.




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09 Jan 2017 01:00:13
I can see making sense because
1) we have only one starting team experienced winger with real pace in Mane (if we exclude the youngsters like Ojo)
2) it would allow Firmino to play upfront if Coutinho or Mane are out
3) it would also allow Klopp to drop Coutinho into midfield to provide some creativity if Llalana is not available/ needs a rest

The problem is it'll mean we're very heavy in the forward line and also harder for the likes of Ojo to get a shot but if Klopp plans to drop Coutinho a little deeper from time to time then I'd be happy to see the move





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20 Jan 2017 12:08:31
If he plays well and comes back with confidence and no injuries then that's all we can hope for. Good luck to the lad, hope they win it.




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19 Jan 2017 06:33:20
Ojo looked great, so did Woodburn IMO especially when dropping a little deeper Coutinho style. Gomez, TAA, Lucas, Ejaria all sound. Strikers disappointed a bit, can see Firmino starting up top again.




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17 Jan 2017 17:42:00
Celebrating our proud history is perfectly acceptable but assuming this means we have a right to expect beat any other club right now is arrogance and a recipe for disaster. Every game is 11 men against 11 men and you win or lose by what how you prepare, and what you do on the pitch, not from what any past teams have done before you (and reality is it's been some time since we've consistently competed for honours. )

Time to write a new story, starting with this team, this coach, and this league which is exceptionally competitive and no-one having the right to win anything.




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17 Jan 2017 08:45:51
I expect to see Wilson against Plymouth, perhaps as a sub for Ojo (or visa-versa) - good to see so many youngsters rested for the Plymouth game




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16 Jan 2017 17:53:29
Oh and by the way. I think the words you're looking for are 'walk on' rather than 'feel depressed' when you go through a rough patch 😆