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22 Oct 2024 22:05:40
Ed2 is the rumours of a new takeover bid, click bait.
{Ed002's Note - FSG are still looking to expand their presence in football from owning Liverpool to taking stakes in other sides. They have looked at Toulouse (which investors in FSG, RedBird Capital, own 85% of) but then settled on the far cheaper and in huge trouble, Bordeaux. and want to purchase a MLS side or to take a minorty share in one. The cost of adding Bordeaux means unpaid taxes, unpaid rent for the stadium and other debts would have to have been cleared by July 2024 and they weren't so they have been relegated to the third iter of French football - so that is now off the table. I suspect the reality of the state of Bordeaux resulted in FSG stepping away to concentrate on investing in an MLS side whilst they continue their chase for a new NBA franchise in Las Vegas. With one time potential Everton owners 777 Partners having a crumbling empire, clubs are looking at their assets. Vasco da Gama is part of that and has been for sale for a while with BlueCo having had exploratory talks after signing two players from them last summer. FSG could look to them also but there could be some legal hurdles to deal with as a Brazilian Court has removed the owners from being able to run the club. Standard Liege, Genoa, Hertha Berlin and Red Star Paris are also embroiled in this mess. Perhaps FSG's new friends at the Saudi PIF would be interested in some sort of further joint venture. There has certainly continued to be a thought that the PIF would like to move on from Newcastle and look to a higher profile side. In order to do so in England, or realistically in Europe, they would need to sell Newcastle or restructure the ownership somehow? Their primary target is Barcelona but it is owned by the supporters who nominally operate the club and there is no practical way taht the socios can sell. Already in bed with FSG, they could look to creating a partnership that takes Liverpool on board. This has the advantage that it will give FSG the funds to likely obtain the NBA Francise and MLS side they so desire - but I suspect there would be a huge backlash by supporters. Representatives of the Saudi PIF have also looked at Chelsea and Spurs.}
1.) 23 Oct 2024 10:14:27
I’d take Saudi owners with no complaints. Keep us competing at highest level and give us the best chance of trophies. They been great at Newcastle imo.
2.) 23 Oct 2024 10:36:03
Not for me Brummy.
3.) 23 Oct 2024 12:16:46
Might need to throw the rainbow laces away.
4.) 23 Oct 2024 13:48:05
As always thanks in advanced and if not right place sorry! As an LFC and Tranmere fan, is the reported Rihanna and her partners take over bid actually legitimate? Assume as news died out so no, but is that random thought would query!
Seems strange as with two top English clubs nearby assumed growth would be limited - but on other hand if not aiming for BPL offers a good friendly place for fans both blue and red to regularly take family to a friendly football match with reasonable prices!
{Ed002's Note - I answered this on the Everton page yesterday: {Ed002's Note - I don't know what a "Rocky and Rihanna" is but there is a group of American investors looking to buy into lower-tier football clubs with a number for sale including Tranmere, Treviso, Pro Vercelli etc.. Moneyball is a baseball term. I don't know what the eventual investors will look to do but it will be purchased with a view to bringing a return on the investment.}
5.) 23 Oct 2024 14:20:49
Ah didn’t see that - cheers for info.
6.) 23 Oct 2024 21:11:36
Does us potentially doing something wrong to follow suit with other clubs doing wrong make us right? Seems it’s apparently ok from a business perspective but perhaps not from a more global humanitarian perspective, which, in my opinion, supersedes sport.
7.) 23 Oct 2024 17:58:31
Are Everton classed as below them then Ed?
{Ed002's Note - Everton should have new owners by the end of the year.}
8.) 23 Oct 2024 18:37:43
Thank you for the reply ed2.
9.) 24 Oct 2024 06:50:27
@Brummy. These owners brought in Klopp, bought (I'm not suggesting they were involved directly ya) the superstars that we have now, won PL, CL etc. So, I don't really get what you are trying to say.
10.) 24 Oct 2024 09:27:04
Ed002 what are the pro's and cons of buying or being a partner in multi clubs, for both the owners and fans . there seems to be only a few who seem to run it well. ie city group, red bull.
{Ed002's Note - It allows the owners to have players come through the other clubs via loans, or in the case of the City Football Group, through buying and selling. Sometimes, when it doesn't work out a player can be given a loan to a partner side to see if there is a chance of improvement (e.g. Darío Sarmiento). Sometines a club may send a player on loan for game time (e.g. Andrey Santos). So for the playing staff there are benefits. For owners, the most significant benefit is in the potential profit (e.g. Red Bull Salzburg who largely came from nowhere 20 years ago). On the downside, the success of Red Bull Salzburg has resulted in them having to drop the "Red Bull" when playing in international competitions. There is also scrutiny of all transfers between related clubs.}
11.) 25 Oct 2024 00:16:28
Haizen, yes they got Klopp which was by far and away the best thing they have done for the club. I would argue they didn’t buy any superstars, Klopp made them. As you have seen for the last few years we did not push on from the super team that Klopp built - additions of ‘superstars’ to that team would have arguably had us win a lot more. As Klopp realised you can’t perform miracles on a budget year after year - PIG owners would relieve that pressure and let us challenge year after year without having to get every signing right. That is what I’m trying to say. Thanks.
12.) 25 Oct 2024 05:07:14
Brummy - lol cos Newcastle are competing at the highest level then lol do you read what you write before you write it?
it's a pretty useless argument you're making. because the only teams you can compare our spending too haven't achieved anywhere near what we have.
13.) 25 Oct 2024 10:37:44
Ed002, thanks for the info.
14.) 25 Oct 2024 13:13:41
Faith - Newcastle have been limited by FFP and were starting off in a far worse position than ours fighting relegation. Think for yourself mate.
15.) 26 Oct 2024 09:58:42
I don’t think Klopp made Van Dijk and Alisson.
They were top class players from day 1.
The profile of the club certainly helped their careers.
16.) 26 Oct 2024 16:29:30
Both Virgil and Alisson became three or four times the player they were before at Liverpool, not sure why you think they were already at that level before coming here. Before coming here they had all the tools to possibly be the best in their position, at Liverpool they made a claim to be the best and then laid rest to any argument that they were the best, Virgil went up another level again when he was given the captain’s armband and proved that he can lead by example and be an organiser taking responsibility instead of shirking it when things start going awry.
17.) 26 Oct 2024 23:00:16
Both players were world class from Day 1 at Anfield.
They just “became better” by walking through the gates?
They were already great players, hence the fees.
06 Nov 2017 13:40:09
ED1 do you see coutinho playiplaying for us again this season, or has he burned his last bridge if he starts for Brazil.
{Ed001's Note - it really depends, right now we are playing better without him so he is out. I expect him to leave in January, so I don't expect him to appear for us again. However a lot can change quickly.}
1.) 06 Nov 2017 14:52:53
we should put him on the subs bench for a couple of games, let him see that we can and will play great football without him .
2.) 06 Nov 2017 15:24:02
We have Boby with twinkle toes.
3.) 06 Nov 2017 15:55:32
We have to forget coutinho and can they are both already mentally elsewhere and coutinho is only player for himself and shop window purposes.
This does not help the LFC team as we need people who want to be here and play here, we can live without Coutinho as we have shown already, we need to invest the money well and 1 or 2 defenders will for sure be needed. I don't see a long term future for Migs or Lovren at the club.
Sturridge for all his quality is simply not worth the wage we pay him for the game time we get out of him, wasted talent due to injury.
Firmino is a good player but not an out and out goalscorer.
I would personally look at De Vrij in Jan as a solid option and then if we can resurrect the VVD deal as a pair I'm sure that would be up there with the best partnership in the league and De Vrij would not cost a lot.
This would relegate Matip to the bench and Gomez can continue to cover RB and CB personally ahead of Matip in the rankings.
We all know Ward should be the number 1 and I think the whole support group would love to see him given the remainder of the season to play in goal and sell Migs to whoever is crazy enough to buy him.
I'm sure we can con Newcastle into a deal they normally buy our offloads.
Better performances of late but still not fixed the balance at the back.
4.) 06 Nov 2017 17:16:02
In hindsight it seems like letting Coutinho go was the better option but during the summer window we had no idea that Salah would be such a roaring success. I think fans would have gone mental had Coutinho left without a "marquee" signing coming in.
5.) 06 Nov 2017 18:23:08
Can is rurning up each game and looks engaged to me.
6.) 06 Nov 2017 20:34:40
Coutinho should have been sold as he made very clear his intention to go and was not interested in the friendlies.
We were going to get good return and this was an easy decision to make but not sure who vetoed his move. Klopp or owners. No foresight/ hindsight needed as this was well written.
Can is showing to be a good professio al till now but unfortuately does not have the quality to take us to next level. His going will only help other potential players and we should wish him luck.
Cheers.
7.) 06 Nov 2017 22:48:38
I said this other week didn't seem too go down that we'll if a players long-term thinking isn't Liverpool an beyond I would rather get rid how can we be a team when other players minds are with another team.
8.) 07 Nov 2017 05:49:34
Will Lemaar or Lazini be replacement? Or will Woodburn or Ox step up?
9.) 07 Nov 2017 08:08:04
I would rather integrate woodburn, ox or grujic than give the other 2 can an coutihno our huge platform that is Liverpool we made them 2 players look how they repaid us.
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23 Feb 2025 11:58:23
Looking at artetas body language after the game yesterday, if we win today arsenal will be resigned to being bridesmaids again this season.
1.) 23 Feb 2025 13:55:24
History has thought us different whilst the result was great for us until its mathematically possible for them not to catch us it isn't over.
23 Oct 2024 18:37:43
Thank you for the reply ed2.
15 Aug 2024 14:57:44
JK, i think walkon wants you to jog on.
10 Jul 2023 14:11:29
ED2 there's a difference between stevie G likeing to take hendo to his club as a manager and SPIF protecting their interests and assets in Chelsea football club as second hand Investors.
{Ed002's Note - The Saudi PIF are not investors in Chelsea. Go and read all of the embarrassing posts.}
19 May 2025 17:56:47
Would people be happy with wirtz, and give danns a run as our main striker.
06 May 2025 09:57:01
No ill feelings towards him, to me his just another player who gave me moments of joy. But falls into the category of Mcmanaman, owen, coutinho, and saurez. Not a legendary player, just a past player.