Liverpool banter 4

12 Dec 2025 11:30:09
Reading stories that Salah may have played his last game for us. Well I don't care if Salah was wrong with his interview or not. He actually deserves a proper send forth ceremony. Whether he plays for us again or not.

12 Dec 2025 18:21:03
He’s in the squad for tomorrow, that suggests he will play a part. It could be a farewell, but I’m glad he’s back in even if it’s to say his goodbyes.

12 Dec 2025 21:01:00
Yep - likewise Hugo

Would have been a shocking way to bow out after being such a great player for us.

Can’t help thinking that all this turmoil since last Saturday has given the club a bit of a wake up call - Weds was proof that the players still want it with a good professional European performance and regardless of the managers position and Salah’s future there’s a massive amount of quality in that squad that still gives me confidence we can put a string of results together and get a run going .

I fancy us to win tomorrow by 2-0 / 3-1.

13 Dec 2025 11:18:33
"There’s a massive amount of quality in that squad that still gives me confidence we can put a string of results together and get a run going ".

If the manager wants it, as well, @Bristol.

12 Dec 2025 11:11:13
Slot became obsessed with PSG after they beat us last season ans watching them go on and win the champions league.
He thought he could change the way we played and thought it would work in the Premier league.
Obviously it doesn't!
He stuck with it for far too long.


Hopefully he has realised his mistakes and will now change his ideas and tactics.
We can hopefully move on and get some consistency in the second half of the season and establish our selves in the top four.

12 Dec 2025 11:50:32
I have never believed that Slot is obsessed with the PSG model cos PSG are a pressing team that play high tempo, high pressing football, something Slot has literally stopped doing for starters and now plays the equivalent of Rodgers ball in his final 2 years at LFC which was also a disaster. Where's the correlation, exactly?

Also, PSG do not play with a striker whereas we signed 2 strikers to play this season. So again, where is the correlation in terms of actual tactics and what we can actually see on the pitch? Again to me, this is a myth.

12 Dec 2025 12:01:41
This is a big weekend for us as a club. Slot is meeting with Salah and hopefully somthing is resolved.
But the game needs to be much better, we need a good strong performance no matter the Salah Slot meeting.
Both party's are unlikely to be here next season IMO. I hope I'm wrong and we all come through this. But this game needs to be a win and convincing one at that! Progress must be made from midweek. Anything less than that and I feel Slots position is untenable
So dig deep boys, play the Liverpool way and play for the privilege of wearing the Liverbird Upon your chest.

YNWA

It's bigger than any individual. We are.

12 Dec 2025 12:16:24
Don’t you think the slow playing and lack of intense press was because of the disrupted preseason and resulting lack of fitness though Oli?

It seems every single game we play these days half the team’s minutes are being ‘managed’.

There comes a time when you just have to accept that players do get injured sometimes and take the shackles off. Maybe the praise he got last year for keeping players on the pitch has gone to his head and he’s desperate to maintain that record. I’d much rather see decent football and some wins with a few injuries than keep everyone fit but lose every week!

12 Dec 2025 12:39:51
So you're saying, Chrisy, if we scrape a 1-0 win that Slot's a gonna? Interesting.

12 Dec 2025 13:08:09
Everyone will be delighted with ANY type of win. This isn't fifa its elite sport.

12 Dec 2025 13:16:17
Rome. I didn't say that at all. What I said was we need a good solid progressive performance. We need to boss premier league opposition. If we end up drawing and throwing away a lead like last week.

Then yes I honestly believe it's yet another backward step. We are at home we should take the game to the opposition and dominate. I get your point! A wins a win and so on. But no sorry! scraping a 1-0 win against Brighton at home is NOT ACCEPTABLE IMO.
Those sorts of games need to be done with mate, teams coming to Anfield not being scared is why we are where we are right now.
I want to see us absolutely batter Brighton. Set down a marker! Anybody thinking we are a soft touch needs to think again. I'm fed up with teams coming to our house and taking the piz. Sitting in my chair with the remote drinking my beer.
I hope that makes my position clear?
We are Liverpool mate. I want fear in any team that sets foot over our threshold.
Scrape a 1-0 no thanks not enough.

12 Dec 2025 13:17:28
Oh and when they're leaving after loosing. A good kick up the arse too. 🤣🤣🤣.

12 Dec 2025 13:44:12
I don't get the he wants to play like PSG . because the return game we played very well playing our own game . over there is was embarrassing even though we somehow won that game.

12 Dec 2025 14:20:27
Brighton are actually a pretty good team that likes to press high up the pitch. Demanding that we 'boss' and 'batter' them when our two starting wingers are out and we are probably going to use a formation we only started using against Inter seems a bit optimistic. If we were on a good run of form and Isak and Ekitike had played a bunch of games together then I think that would be a fair expectation.

Since we aren't, I feel like you're just setting yourself up for disappointment. I'll take a 1-0, 2-1, 3-2 win any day of the week right now, but hopefully it's a 1-0, maybe a 2-0.

12 Dec 2025 14:55:54
Dreaming of PSG. worse than PSV.

And about as exciting as an STD.

{Ed025's Note - love it LFC8..

12 Dec 2025 14:58:15
I think it was Ed001 who mentioned that Slot became obsessed after the PSG game but not in the vein that we want to play like them. But rather he became worried about burnout and the fitness levels of the players. Hence why we are now playing a slower tempo and training at a lower intensity currently. It's all just to preserve the player's legs.

12 Dec 2025 15:24:18
I think definitely he went into season obsessed with PSG style but his plan to implement it went out the window pretty quick when it was clear it wasn't going to work and he wasn't Luis Enrique.

He has been fumbling around since.

Maybe he will land on something that works.

12 Dec 2025 16:03:14
Sean Dundee Training got postponed for 4 days due to Jotta's tragic accident. The start of the season was 4 months ago. You don't remain unfit for 4 months because you missed a handful of training sessions

The slow play and lack of intensity is clearly down to Slot's approach. It's evidently intentional.

12 Dec 2025 17:25:31
Personally, just going on what he has said publicly, I think Slot was more worried by how likes of Everton, Newcastle and Forest worked out how to throttle us. Mark / press both Virgil and Grav, and suddenly we struggle to get the ball forward.
It’s taken way too long now to find a solution, and going by Michael Cox’s fascinating examination of the pros and cons of it as a system, a diamond is only effective temporarily, as teams can quickly work out how to deal with it.


But it’s definitely the right set-up until we get our confidence back.
The other thing to consider is that Trent could sit alongside Grav in midfield. Kerkez and our rbs don’t have that skillset.
Guehi could have done that, and unexpectedly missing out on him has undermined our whole summer transfer strategy, as without him we clearly need a proper DM.

12 Dec 2025 18:26:59
A narrow win would do us this weekend.

Despite a few indifferent results in Europe we’re probably better suited to that style of football right now. Our worst struggles are often against the very physical and high intensity teams, and those who are strongest from dead ball situations.

I haven’t seen much of Brighton lately, so not sure of their approach. I’m expecting a tough game but hope they play fairly open.

12 Dec 2025 19:05:31
See Brighton giving us a right game. Tight game which could go either way, not just this season either.

13 Dec 2025 11:26:19
@Drac if you are saying that Slot was obsessed with the PSG loss the same way he was obssessed with the Forrest loss from last season then, I fully agree with it.

@Sean, I agree with your assessment, matel. In fact, Slot said he wanted to rotate a bit more earlier this season so as not to repeat the burn out from the tail end of last season. I agreed with that, btw.

The issue we have is that the way he has done this has been a disaster, end of. I have NO issues with taking it easy however, you can't just do that to the point of not giving the team a fighting chance in games. Like you said, just let the players play in a way they are comfortable with and train, prepare, recover accordingly. If Slot doesn't want injuries then, we might as well pack up the season.

And No. I don't have to accept a damn thing that makes NO sense to me, personally. Cheers, mate.

12 Dec 2025 07:16:16
Big IFs - but if we end up signing a competent, fit and upgraded CB option in Jan (Guehi? )

…and Salah gets a move during AFCON to be replaced by a physical, pacy, Prem ready RW option (Semenyo? )

…and our midfield options increase with the return of McConnell, Harvey

…and (biggest IF), the Club recognises the need for and signs a new combative midfielder (Baleba? )

…wouldn’t it make most sense to stick with Slot as Head Coach for the remainder of the season?

Lots of variables, but in the scenario above surely you wouldn’t increase the risk by also changing the Head Coach?

Unless of course, Slot has completely lost the dressing room, which doesn’t seem to be the case.

Hold your nerve, this is the time for cool heads and decisions based solely on the long term benefit to our glorious Club.

Personally, I’d rather play for a Head Coach with more obvious passion but realistically I don’t think there’s a better option available than Slot at this moment.

So, our best chance of success would be to get behind both Slot and the players - show some support and work through this together.

{Ed001's Note - Slot is the reason we don't want a combative midfielder.}

12 Dec 2025 08:26:32
McConnell is pretty combative IMO.

12 Dec 2025 08:32:10
So the answer to this embarrassing start to the season is to spend nearly another £200m? That's after the huge spending in the summer adding to a title winning team, Slot must be a hell of a coach.

12 Dec 2025 08:57:55
I think that’s just I Pompey. Slot will stay purely because there isn’t an obvious better option available right now.

It will be interesting if Alonso does become available but for the time being I think we all just need to accept that Slot is here for the foreseeable and get behind him and the team.

12 Dec 2025 09:27:03
Accept your comment Ed01, but it seems clear we need that skill set as an option. Grav, Macca, Jones, Szobo, Wirtz all play nice tidy football but where’s the crunch? We’re too nice in there…

Ron - I also liked what I saw previously from McConnell. Cometh the time, cometh the man?

Don’t forget we also need to integrate Frimpong, freeing up Gomez as another CB option till the end of the season.

Plus, do you think Kerkez needs to hold his width more in possession? I feel he’s often too narrow to be an effective outlet. I assume that is down to instructions? Bit bewildered/ frustrated by that to be honest….

{Ed001's Note - I would love one as well, I was saying that all last season too mate. It is clear we lack bite, but Slot believes different.}

12 Dec 2025 09:31:05
Slot came in with a reputation for being flexible. If this is proven right in the second half the season by him learning from his mistakes, adapting to this league, and getting the players to play the way he wants to successfully, then I will get right back behind him. It seems like he has time, and we do look more solid since dropping Mo.

That was decision and whatever way you look at it we haven't lost a game since. This is his time to prove he's the manager we all thought he was. Fingers crossed. If he finishes top 4 I think he will be given more time, but Alonso becoming available would be mighty tempting. I'm glad I don't run a football club!

12 Dec 2025 09:36:41
AAR, yeah, it’s disappointing - but if you think Guehi should have been done anyway and Salah is a straight swap - then the only out of cycle investment would be midfield.

I’d be interested in seeing Semenyo on the left btw - to link up with Kerkez.

12 Dec 2025 09:50:51
I tend to agree with Ed01 that we need someone solid and hard tackling in DM role, we are bypassed easily in midfield at the moment.

Also need to stop passing across the back line, allowing teams to get 11 behind the ball, it’s an easy tactic to defend against as it’s so slow and easy for teams to counter attack.

Also I think Salah and Gakpo play too far out on the wing, preventing the overlap and forcing wingbacks to go inside - should be wingback outside and attackers move inside - provides more space for strikers - which is part of the reason Islam is struggling - this is all my opinion and welcome comments if others think I’m wrong - as just a discussion point.

Can Slot turn it around, a few wins and we could be in top 4 as not a large gap, but the question is will it turn around? No idea and the next few weeks will be interesting to answer this.

12 Dec 2025 10:02:56
The team is in dire need of a top level CB and a top level aggressive, combative MF presence. We'll win the sum total of FA in their absence. This is my issue with Slot. He cannot see the forest for the trees. Title winning teams or contenders need one. Henderson, Rodri, Kante, Essien, Keane, Viera etc. were employed to do a job and they did it. They add a mental as well as a physical presence. I'd find it hard to believe that an opposing 11 would be overly concerned about our current middle and the way they are structured. You require presence on the pitch, dressing room, training ground and tunnel, that also includes managerial presence.

We lack it. We'll not be successful without it. And please, McConnell is not the answer either, he may have some contributory attributes but not high enough ones to run and dictate our and the oppositions midfield. He'd be playing for us by now if those were visible. Have a good Friday EDs and all! Oh, if anyone slags Salah today, the poster or player, I'm firmly on their side and will return fire with fire! 💥🥳💥🥳🤣🤣🚀🚀🚀🔥🔥🤣🥳💥💥🥳🤣 Be prepared!

12 Dec 2025 10:10:48
Westwood666, Slot already showed he could adapt to the league last season with the tweaks he made to the team and frankly, dominated. The nos. are staggering if you look at them, as I have. He already did all of that and all in on the record.

We also had the 2nd best defence in the PL last season with Mo in the team so I don't buy into the "we've looked more solid since Mo was dropped" stuff. Mo was not the reason we have conceded 9 goals from set pieces, for ex. or our inability to defend a long throw. Pls, Let's not start doing the very thing Mo accused the club of doing.

Slot is the one who abandoned all these tweaks that made us great and went a diff. way which has been killing us all season. NOBODY made him do it. He did that all on his own and refused to change so NO sympathy from me. Im over it and over Slot. He will go eventually. All that is required right now is patience.

12 Dec 2025 11:47:43
Cheers for the review Oli. Yeah I get that and do agree everything was great last year, but if Slot carries on tweaking and gets it right without Salah in the team, does that then mean he was right to drop him and should have done it earlier? What he does take a up a DM option or put Grab back to what he was doing and we go on to finish, say, 3rd or 2nd?
I'm also not saying it's Salah's fault. What I'm saying is that if everything we hear on here is true and Slot is planning for a style that doesn't revolve around Salah, then surely he actually gave Salah a more than fair chance to fit into that system before deciding it wasn't working and dropping him?
I'm also not a Slot defender, I am firmly in the out camp as it stands, doubly so if Alonso becomes available, but as that's unlikely right now to happen, I'm just very interested to see what the play style, form and results will be like now we are going to be without Salah anyway.

Results have been better, not great, bit still better. That's not a reflection on Salah as a player at all, agree it's all on Slot and apparently he didn't want to keep Salah. So let's see what it looks like when he has absolutely no excuses left i. e. 6 months with new players which even Klopp needed, Players he reportedly doesn't want not being an option etc.
All I'm saying is that it looks like Slot still has time to sort this mess out, and if he sticks to his guns and pulls it off, does, does that then mean he will be even higher rated than he was last year?

12 Dec 2025 11:50:46
I would also point out that if it wasn't for Salah's outburst, I doubt I would even be considering the possibility of Slot succeeding from his current position, but even the hint of an issue with a player or group of players, regardless of league position or form, kind of automatically give me pause to think maybe the manager is battling more here than meets the eye? If Salah wanted Slot gone, best thing he could of done was not say anything really, he's taken the spotlight off Slot a bit IMO.

12 Dec 2025 11:55:18
I get what people mean when they say the wingers are too far out, hence the fullbacks can only underlap.

but do u not feel that it is a specific instruction for it to work this way? imo this is part of slot's tactics. im not saying its good or bad or i agree or disagree with it. im just saying i think people should also realise this is what slot wants, this structure. salah is wasted if he's spending too much time there, there needs to be a balance, he needs to be nearer to the goal where he is most lethal.

12 Dec 2025 15:11:31
The thing is Westwood, I don't entirely believe that dropping Salah was a footballing decision at all. There are just too many unanswered questions surrounding it for me.

For starters, Salah was starting to look slightly better when he was dropped, especially in the AV and RM game that we won. So why was he dropped then? Also, there are players who looked even worse or just as bad as Salah, like Konate, Macca, Gakpo, Vvd, Kerkez and Isak but they re all weren't dropped. So why was only Salah dropped when the whole team was looking out of sorts? I've always mentioned that if the entire team looks poor playing a particular system then it's the systems fault and not the players. So why was Salah singled out?

Something doesn't add up for me regarding the dropping of Salah, hence why I think the reasoning behind him getting dropped was due to the club trying to get rid of him behind his back. That for me makes more sense and links the dots better. Granted, I have absolutely no proof of this happening other than what Ed001 told us. But it still makes more sense to me than Salah being benched because he didn't fit the system and was out of form.

{Ed025's Note - come on Drac, he was dropped because he hasn,t been able to trap a bag of cement for 8 months mate, he deserved to be dropped imo and then he threw his toys out the pram...what a total Mars Bar..

12 Dec 2025 18:24:44
Sorry, Pompey but no. Even if all those thing happened Slot would just keep his job til summer. For me, a new coach is required after this debacle.

This season Slot has proven he's too stubborn, can't adapt quickly enough, not a good man manager, makes poor selections, clueless to respond in matches (i. e. the kitchen sink formation when we go behind), and didn't prepare the team for the season.

Granted he was dealt a difficult hand with Jotas death, but for the people who would claim that as an excuse for him, I see it as a failure of leadership. It doesn't take an empathic genius to see the players would struggle: why no support or psychologist on staff or grieving councilors to help the players?

But the performances are the main reason he just can't stay for me. This slow boring attack and unorganized defense is unforgivable. It's not just that it's not the Liverpool way, but it also diminishes the strengths of all our players currently. It's not that it just obviously hasn't worked, I simply don't want to watch this. So even if he changed the system back and got us playing better and winning, footballs evolve and managers have to adapt and he has shown he is incapable of doing that successfully. So why should we expect that he will try a system that doesn't work and persist with it for too long the next time he has to adapt?

Sometimes you just have to admit something isn't working and cut your losses, and for me, we've gotten to that point with Slot.

13 Dec 2025 11:32:47
@Westwood, I take all your points, man. Regarding Salah, if they Slot wanted to go a diff. direction mid season then, why did they give him a new deal only to bail out midseason?

That's on the club for giving him the new deal. Seriously, what are people expecting him to do? Just take it on the chin? If true then, that is a cock up by the club. Salah got nothing to do with that and IF they didn't communicate this to him clearly again, what is he supposed to do? Just sit there?

IMO, There are too many unanswered questions (from the club, specifically) to just say, "Oh, Salah was benched for playing badly" whereas we can see others sticking up the joing and just gloss over that just cos Salah spoke out about it.

{Ed025's Note - how is that a cock up Oli?, if they think they can get good money for him and hes not part of the managers plans then thats just good business mate, forget the sentiment...Mo wont be lining up in food banks anytime soon..

13 Dec 2025 11:39:39
Oh please, Ed25. And has Konate, VVD, Gakpo been able to trap a bag of cement all season, then? Sorry, you can't just gloss over these things and esp. the unanswered questions @Drac is putting out. If you can't answer the questions then, fine. But don't just gloss over them as if they aren't pertinent, relevant nor important. That ain't going to fly with me and I'll keep asking them till someone answers them.

Again, there are too many unanswered questions (from the club, specifically) to just say, "Oh, Salah was benched for playing badly" whereas we can see others stinking up the joint and just gloss over that just cos Salah spoke out about it.

Also, Salah is not the reason we have conceded 9 goals from setpieces/ throw-ins and commited the most individual errors leading to goals or the crap tactics. that has gotten us humiliated this season. All that is down to the "other" guy.

{Ed025's Note - of course others have been poor Oli, but what do you want Slot to do mate play Salah in the back 4?, i think Gakpo has been poor but probably not as bad as the Mars Bar i would suggest but thats the managers decision..

11 Dec 2025 23:22:45
Cannot believe the amount of reds on here baying for Slot's blood.

Folks so ready to chalk his success down to Klopp have short memories. He revolutionised our side last year - made us much harder to beat - spotted something in Gravenberch nobody else had. To name but a few great decisions. And we won the league at a canter.

I would maybe understand the noise if there was a new wave Jurgen Klopp available to take over. But Xabi Alonso? Careful what you wish for. Yes, Alonso ran away with a title early in his career at Leverkusen (remind you of anyone? ) But since then, he's struggled. If he wasn't an ex-Red there would be nowhere near this level of noise. And as for Fabregas or Gerrard. I think we'd be crazy.

3 points off fourth. Going to qualify in UCL. Not where we want to be, but some would do well to remember the chopping and changing of the pre Klopp era. We are at the end of a cycle. A new one is beginning. It is a bumpy ride, but could be so, so much worse.

I really hope Slot proves the doubters wrong and turns it around.

Up The Reds

TBR.

11 Dec 2025 23:40:43
I kind of get where you’re coming from BootRoom and I thought the same until we conceded 10 goals in 3 games, 2 of which were teams we should beating comfortably.

That caused me to totally lose confidence in Slot. He might be slowly clawing that back. I’m glad he dropped Salah and faced the repercussions because that tells me he will make the tough decisions if necessary and I was starting to wonder.

As for Alonso he was brilliant all 3 seasons he was at Leverkusen. Punching well above his weight and taking over when they were languishing at the bottom of the table he finished 6th, 1st and 2nd. That’s quite an incredible record especially when you consider Bayern basically own that league.

He’s struggling at Madrid but I have no doubt that if they back him against the egos and give him time he will do something similar to what Enrique has done at PSG.

Right now I would take Alonso over Slot all day long but if Alonso isn’t available I’ll back Slot and hope he gets himself back to where he was last season because last season he was nothing short of sensational.

11 Dec 2025 23:45:27
Does the man instill faith and confidence in you that he can?

I see a typicl Dutch manager in the prem, trying to do Dutch things.

12 Dec 2025 01:52:48
Fair play, Sean Dundee. Maybe I’m a bit harsh on Alonso there, I suppose I just don’t agree with those who seem to think it would be all plain sailing were he to come in. As it never is with any manager.

We’re all so quick to crisis or to thinking we’re on top of the world is more my point.

How many of those 10 goals are down to Slot’s tactics directly, would be my question? The buck stops with him, I get it, but what can be done when Konate is having a dip in form and your M Guehi solution was fumbled on a business level.

Many new players to bed in. Many of the old guard moved on or struggling with form.

I have a lot of time for Slot and always will. PL winner. He’s a cracking manager, and whatever happens I reckon he’ll go on to have an incredible career. I just hope the next chapter of that career continues at Anfield.

YNWA.

12 Dec 2025 04:33:23
BootRoom, you also have to consider that he has led us into our worst run of form in over 70 years. There was a period where we lost nine out of 12 matches across all competitions, which is the most defeats we’ve had over any 12-game stretch since the early 1950s. We also lost three games in a row by a margin of three goals or more, something that hasn’t happened at the club since 1953.

These aren’t stats I made up to make Slot look bad, you can look them up and verify them yourself. All of this happened while he had the likes of Alisson, VVD, Szoboszlai, Salah, Isak, and Wirtz - to name just a few - in his squad. And this isn’t a case of a weakened or transitional squad. This is a team stacked with internationals, title-winners, and players at or near their prime. The expectations were naturally higher, and falling so dramatically below them can’t just be brushed aside as a “bumpy ride. ”

It’s especially telling considering we once had Roy Hodgson as our manager, and he had Paul Konchesky, Danny Wilson, Christian Poulsen, and Milan Jovanovic in his squad.

12 Dec 2025 04:39:44
We can pin the 10 goals down to slot though, although not fully. No one can account for Konate's brainfart in giving away the pen against Leeds. But it was Slot's instructions to drop deep and defend the lead when we look much better attacking. It happened last season too but the only difference is that the chances that the opponents create this time lead to goals instead of just chances. It was also his choice to continue playing Konate despite having a fit Gomez on the bench. It was also Slot's choice to drop an in-form Ekitike for an unfit Isak. I could go on and on about his tactics and team selection but I think most of it has already been discussed here.

I would say though that I was impressed by Slot last year. He made micro changes throughout games to make sure that we're always ahead tactically and he improved on the fitness of the players by getting them to do yoga and mobility exercises. But this season is just the complete opposite. Players look undercooked and unfit, and he is persisting with the same tactics despite it not working. The one time he changed and it worked, he quickly reverted back to what didn't.

At the end of the day, we want Liverpool to do well, whether it is with Slot at the helm or not. If he can turn this around then I'll be happy and pleased too. But as it stands, with how things are going, it does look like he's holding us back and we need to drop him if we want to progress.

12 Dec 2025 06:36:35
3 points of 4th, just take that statement in. Premier League Champions and £450 million of new toys and we are fighting for forth spot🙄 and that’s not a given may I add. Pretty sure, with the money spent was to strengthen our position at the top and not be in contention with the also rans.

12 Dec 2025 06:45:52
The form has been shocking, you’re right. But then again, he started the season with 5 wins on the bounce. Maybe if the bad results had been less concentrated he wouldn’t have been given such a hard time.

I suppose I am just surprised to see so many fans so hungry to bin him when I really don’t think any of the alternatives are sure things. Far from it. I see a lot of sideways steps or downgrades.

Big questions ahead for Slot and the players, but I’ll be hoping he can answer them and turn this around.

TBR.

12 Dec 2025 07:04:31
A lot of good points there bootroom and I would've agreed with a lot until the forest+ psv matches that's when I felt slot should go as I couldn't see him turning it around. i would love to be proven wrong on that and he does turn it around . as u say there doesn't seem to be that overly many options out there, I do like ireaola but again it's big gamble to see can he move to a club the size of lfc, alonso I'm not sure on 2 b honest. We played his teams twice in last 2 champion league campaigns and I thought they v poor.
Slot has money in bank from last season as I thought he outstanding but he's got something badly wrong this season, there's no way we should be as bad as we have been for quality of player we have.

our press is probably worst in the league, totally uncoordinated, we worst at set pieces both attacking + defending and we don't look fit compared to our opponents in prem league. Them is the responsibility of management to have basics right, they can't always legislate for big drop off in form of certain players and changing over from old guard to new isn't simple but they should have them basics right.

12 Dec 2025 07:04:43
@Sean, why do you think we have a right to beat teams in our league ‘comfortably’?

12 Dec 2025 07:19:08
TBR, people are not happy with Slot for a number of reasons. Firstly, I do beleive he won the league based on a Klopp team, who were fit, well rounded and didn't need much input from Slot to know their game and tactics. All Slot had to do was steer a auto piloted ship with little input needed to maintain course, direction and trajectory.

That said, I do see what he did in terms of Grav and made him a wonderful player that wasnt previously spotted. But this for me is where it ends. On winning the league, Slot tried to implement his own stamp and tactics on the squad and its been down hill not just this season, but the end of last season. He doesn't seem know how to make changes when required and does a very like for like sub when we need to get a grip of a game. He has decided that the players don't need to be as fit as when Klopp was here and that shows us running out of puff and then cannot change the game and lose. Slot doesn't seem to have the knowledge or experience to revert back to what made us great, hard to play against and our game play is readable and boring. Slot has more excuses that a politician caught on cocaine in a whore house on public funds.

Baz.

12 Dec 2025 07:27:26
We started the season with 5 wins bootroom but they was all lucky or was more to the point that teams where at our fitness levels as the season had just started. Now then season has got into full throttle Slots training methods are showing our fitness levels are not up to it and if teams play at a high intensity we can’t compete. This is not a new issue this started in February when Klopps fitness standards were driven out of our players.

Also because of his methods he can only play the same players because the back ups are nowhere near fit enough to come in.
As for Alonso troubles at Madrid that is not an Alonso issue that’s there squad being full of players that feel they have the right to do what ever they want and the manager is there to facilitate that.

12 Dec 2025 07:57:48
TBR

YNWA!

ISG.

12 Dec 2025 09:09:04
WDW we have absolutely no right to beat anyone as has been proven and I’m not so entitled to believe we do.

However you have to admit that losing 0-3 to Forest and 1-4 to PSV in consecutive matches at Anfield is cause for concern and brings the manager into question.

Anfield has always been our saviour, our 12th man so to lose 2 games so convincingly in quick succession points to something being seriously wrong.

12 Dec 2025 09:31:57
Boot room . you don't want Alonso or Fab for the manager but you want to stick with someone who team is playing a lot worse than their 2 teams because, you think it would be better to stick . have you been watching us for season we are absolutely terrible, we get out worked, out run n out played most games .

I agree with one point though he turned Grav into a great midfielder but this year he turned him back onto the midfielder he was under Klopp.

12 Dec 2025 10:23:11
"Folks so ready to chalk his success down to Klopp have short memories. "

What it this, @Bootroom? Pls, don't project that onto the whole part of the fan base who want Slot out. Many of us actually couldn't give a crap how he won the title or whose team it was. Slot won the title on HIS own merits and hats off to him, his staff and the players (RIP DJ20, btw) and for me, I will always be grateful for that.

Now, many of us want him out cos he has deliberately walked away from the system that made us great and replaced it with one that has led us to 10th in the league, one of the worst defences in the league, the most goals conceded from set-pieces, the most goals conceded from individual errors. Mate, you want more of this cos there's a lot more where all the above came from? As for the 5 wins, are you serious? Many of us sounded the alarm already that things weren't looking good so what are you on about?

I tried to support him, I really did. But after the Sun. game, I gave up cos he won't change. This is the hill (the system) he is going to perish on (football-wise) and from that moment, it shows that Slot don't give a crap about the club doing well provided he proves his point that this system will work. And from there, I was out hence, Slot out. He will go. Just a matter of time and I got patience for days, mate.

12 Dec 2025 10:26:00
Lots of valid points above which undoubtably brings the manager, the transfer committee and a number of players ability into question. But they deserve a chance to turn it around and there have been signs they can turn it around, so it’s still too early to be sacking the manager.

If Slot learns from this and my impression is he will and turns it around then it will make him a better manager and the club will be in a very good position for years to come.

12 Dec 2025 11:19:42
@Sean, I agree with you - the two losses you mention, as well as others along the way - were / are cause for concern but that’s a different matter.

@Drac, how’s it Slot’s fault that we conceded 10 goals in three games? His tactics didn’t help, but the 11 on the pitch with a collective mind boggling weekly wage as elite professional footballers could perhaps have done a little bit more to prevent the opposition from scoring?

12 Dec 2025 11:21:13
The 5 wins on the bounce, papered over a lot of cracks. I admit I was initially just sure it was teething problems and as the team gelled we'd start handing out some right hammering.

Just didn't happen we got slower and slower and worse and worse.

2 good performances playing with intensity, back to the dross. I fear the Milan game again papers over thing again. As the good and decent performances are far to far apart.

What we need to see is continuous improvement and consistency starting tomorrow.

I think too much harm has been done for Arne and his team to stay, the regression has been alarming. If he turns it around. well. good for him. I just don't see it being a big enough turn around.

Hughes, i am not sure of. he stepped up with the recruitment. But the continuous backing of the manager and the apparent behind the back negotiations to sell Mo don't sit right.

12 Dec 2025 01:15:53
This is actually even more reason he should be sacked, if a manager can get the squad so pumped in the first season then completely destroy it's identity and way of football the next season shows you that he can't be trusted with another season as you never know what you're going to get.

12 Dec 2025 11:37:58
Wdw . of course it was the managers fault we conceded 10 goals in 3 games . he picks the side, tactics makes the subs . even a blind man could see Konate was a total liability but who kept picking him.

12 Dec 2025 11:56:59
Karlos, I fully agree with you esp. with your first two paragraphs. Im not fooled. The Inter result ( very good result in isolation) does not prove a damn thing. The issues are still there except if people choose to ignore them and be "positive", which is fine.

Our CF's are way too isolated with NO service from the flanks, something you need to thrive in the PL. We play a diamond yet with NO width from the FB's? My eyes are still open and the Inter result (just like the WH result) will never pull the wool over my eyes.

Brighton is going to be a real problem cos they have the ability to exploit every single flaw we have in our system, which are not few.

12 Dec 2025 15:16:15
WDW, I should have phrased it better. I should have said that Slot had a part to play with us conceding those 10 goals in 3 games. He set the team up to play and chose the players to carry out his system. True there were individual errors but we also need to question whether the system placed the players under unnecessary pressure that caused those errors.

The slow build up play, the emptying of midfield, and the bunkering down to protect a one goal lead with plenty of time still to play for all played a part in us conceding goals. So yes, Slot had a hand to play in us conceding 10 goals on 3 games.

11 Dec 2025
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11 Dec 2025 19:47:14
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new podcast entitled, Eds C U Next Time on Youtube

11 Dec 2025 19:25:04
If McConnell's coming back will he be sent to the U23s or in and around the first team?

11 Dec 2025 20:12:46
Great question. Carragher, Trent and SG became the players they could be because we showed faith in them very early on.

Klopp showcased a lot of our youth team in cup a couple of years ago, and McC was the standout for me. He wasn’t just tidy, he was damn smart in his choices.

11 Dec 2025 20:40:05
I hope he can step up despite it not going to plan at Ajax. Did sign a big five year contract before his loan so there's that.

11 Dec 2025 22:00:13
A big fan of McConnell. We should have never let him go as I thought he was ready for game time in the first team, IMO. I was disappointed Slot sent him off on loan, er Ed01.

11 Dec 2025 22:36:53
So many variables need to go right for a youth player to get their break aye.

12 Dec 2025 00:40:12
Agree on McConnell, he’s exactly the type of player we need right now.
Controversial but I’d feel happier with him in for MacAllister right now.
2-footed, good vision, good at closing players down, doesn’t give possession away easily.

12 Dec 2025 06:42:06
Aye, he’s exactly what we need. A young lad who has just got sent back by Ajax because he couldn’t cut it, hasn’t played a minute for Liverpool in the PL. How anyone can say he is ready for the PL or the answer to our midfield woes is beyond me.

12 Dec 2025 08:12:29
So the two players Slot didn't want in the summer are now sent back to him and some fans think they are the messiahs coming to save the season?

12 Dec 2025 08:28:15
Didn’t say that IR, I said “TYPE of player we need”.

12 Dec 2025 09:44:43
Lots of players go out on loan at the start of their careers with varying success. Salah, Beckham, Kane (off the top of my head)
They’re not going to prove themselves, they’re going to get more games under their belt.

12 Dec 2025 10:28:29
I never said he is the player we need to come back in. I said he should have been kept and never loaned out to begin with.

11 Dec 2025 16:46:33
Ed001 do you think Gerrard would be a good appointment under Alonso as a coach or assistant.
Or do do you think Gerrard wants a job only as the head guy.

{Ed001's Note - Gerrard does not want to coach, he wants to manage. Which is silly as he is a better coach than manager.}

11 Dec 2025 19:38:38
Do you think lack of opportunity my turn his head and the chance to stay in the city with his family now that he is a grandad.

11 Dec 2025 20:10:00
Stevie would be a great assistant coach. He should really do that for the next 5 or so years.

11 Dec 2025 20:12:59
He's too big of a character to coach and it's far less of a pay package.

11 Dec 2025 20:50:32
Batman - you right. If he could grind for a bit he may develop himself as a manager and then be top flight manager for the next decade after. As it stands It looks like he’s going to float around punditry and random jobs like in Saudi.

11 Dec 2025 20:59:16
At which club, Faithinworks?

11 Dec 2025 21:22:08
Darwins - no idea, just wherever the opportunity is.

11 Dec 2025 22:25:41
Why do people think Stevie G would be a great assistant coach? It’s a massive job, which requires tactical skills - it’s not like Sammy Lee shouting encouragement from the sidelines. It requires actual skill, not a bit of nice playing experience:

But for me the jury is out. SG feels like a routine mistake: handsome PE teacher, but completely frit outside of school.

11 Dec 2025 23:44:22
I actually think he'd consider been a coach at Lfc.

12 Dec 2025 04:53:01
I wouldn't Gerrard would make a good assistant coach since he has never done it before. But I think he would make a great youth coach. He has the prestige that can inspire younger footballers and would definitely get their buy-in. He was a youth coach for us before he went to Rangers and I thought he did very well in that role.

11 Dec 2025 12:53:08
Ed 1 what do you think may happen if we see Alonso getting the boot from the Madrid? Do you think we will make a move for him on the basis he was the preferred choice and things with Slot haven't exactly been what anyone expected so far this season?

I assume if Alonso wants to take time off, it may suit all parties to see things through to end of the season and replace with Alonso if he was still willing to come?

{Ed001's Note - as far as I know, Hughes is still backing Slot, so doubt anything would happen straight away.}

11 Dec 2025 22:01:32
We're going to have to be patient with this one, guys. It's going to be a slow burn.

11 Dec 2025 08:02:23
Why does everyone hate Carragher?

The spitting incident was abhorrent but it was luckily after his playing career. He was a one club pro, gave it everything each week knowing that he wasn’t technically or physically gifted. I remember fans wearing T-shirts ‘dreaming of a team of carraghers’ and chanting his name week in week out. He also knew the right time to retire (this is very useful to the club so as not to cause trouble or waste wage money) . Personally feel the hate is unjustified despite not agreeing with his Salah rantings.

Ed 001 what’s your opinion?

{Ed001's Note - because since retirement he has turned into an utter prick on TV, spouting idiotic nonsense just to get a reaction. It is embarrassing.}

11 Dec 2025 19:38:40
LLTK even Stevie Wonder can see that Carragher has turned into a complete and utter twat.

11 Dec 2025 19:50:42
He was a prick when he played. Was a terrible player. Give 100% but couldn’t defend . One of the luckiest players to have played for lfc . Had a good career just happened to have hyppia next to him.

11 Dec 2025 20:11:42
Yeah I don’t get it either. If you know or assume he’s just saying stuff for attention then why let it bother you so much.

I don’t prescribe to that idea anyways. Does pundits have to drive a narrative but it works better when they’re just themselves and sharing their opinions. Like Roy, I think Cara is like that.

Also don’t think anything he’s said is terrible controversial either tbh.

11 Dec 2025 20:17:32
LLTK, Baz is one of the good guys, I can’t remember a post from him where he has uttered a bad word about anyone. So if he says someone is a utter twat, it’s safe to assume that someone is one.

11 Dec 2025 20:46:26
Very surprised you think he was a terrible defender. I thought he played a massive part in our success albeit not the best natural football player.

11 Dec 2025 20:48:13
Baz, Carra talks a lot of sense in my eyes.

11 Dec 2025 20:55:19
There is so much to deal with here. First off, Carragher was not a terrible player. He got the same offline stick that Slot now gets, but none from the in-stand supporters.
The guy gave every part of his being in every game. Even back then online fans wanted him replaced with a random 2nd division defender - bonkers idea: SG got our attack up and running vs AC, but all anyone talked about the next day was JC - and the mild hilarity that he had ripped 2 groins to keep us in the game (the commentator really said it) .

I am all for analysis of each coach and pundit, but struggle with the selective arm reaches of, dare I say it, a new generation of fans who can’t be bothered with the awful moments of defeat, and then don’t enjoy the more rare moments of success a club might have.

11 Dec 2025 21:26:09
Why was the spitting incident ‘luckily after his career’? For one thing he had moved into another career but perhaps it would have been even luckier if he’d never spat at anyone ever?

IMO, he was a great clubman and a decent player but with limitations. As an ‘expert’ summariser and pundit he sometimes loses the connection between his brain and his mouth but, as with other pundits, short of outright slander, the ‘powers that be’ at Sky are happy for him to be controversial as it is good for Sky subscription levels. Again, imo he has nothing really insightful to say.

11 Dec 2025 21:57:55
I think he’s spot on in most things he says. And as for his playing career, he should be celebrated more than most. To call him lucky because he wasn’t born with natural talent is bizarre. He worked his arse off to achieve what he did and got the maximum out of his limited ability.

The fans used to sing about a team of Carragher’s that’s how adored he was and no amount of revisionism will change that.

11 Dec 2025 22:03:12
"Ed001's Note - because since retirement he has turned into an utter prick on TV, spouting idiotic nonsense just to get a reaction. It is embarrassing".


Essentially, the Sky Sports version of Steven A. Smith.

11 Dec 2025 22:12:00
BB thank you for your kind words. I never and would never come on here to verbally abuse anyone. Unfortunately JC says things to make himself relevant he doesn't need to get involved as much as he does. I don't think that anyone on the site actually has a firm idea of what went on. If anyone has a firm idea it will be Ed001.

11 Dec 2025 23:49:24
"Lucky"to play over 700 times for one of the worlds biggest clubs. i give up.

11 Dec 2025 23:59:44
Jeez, I wonder what hell Alan Hansen would attract on these pages. He was instrumental in our 80s success, but was brutal as a pundit when he retired.

Jamie Carragher might tell us things we don’t like to hear, but let’s not denigrate his service just because his views hurt our feelings (or make us feel so in this idiotic age) .

He was a titan when we were struggling; in my view as key to our success as SG in difficult years.

While you may not like his protective fury of LFC over Salah’s comments, it is worth remembering what he gave to this club. If his views have you reaching for the moral back-up of his spitting on a car (ugly, yes), just ask yourself this: have you ever done a single thing you might be ashamed of? Now put it on camera, share it, and then let’s begin.

12 Dec 2025 07:14:56
Might be against the grain here but I like listening to carra as a pundit and I find him v interesting. Particularly on sky, the American show he does can get bit silly at times but I don't really watch it.
As regards what he said about mo, I agree with it, it's exactly what I would have said myself.


As a player he was also excellent for us,05-08 he was outstanding and there would've been no Istanbul without him. He also tried to play on with a broken leg for us, couldn't see many attempting that nowadays!
The spitting incident was awful, no excuse for that and I'm sure he will regret that forever.

11 Dec 2025 07:04:07
Ed001, with regards to RyanG and our loss of form defensively, is a matter of him loosing form or his partner (MacA especially) loosing form or no support from the fullbacks? Salah can't be the only issue, he never really tracked back. Although he was scoring then.

{Ed001's Note - or is it because Gravy has been told to get forward more and so there is no one protecting the defence?}

11 Dec 2025 21:01:32
I thought Gravy was superb against Inter.

11 Dec 2025 21:57:01
I’ve thought all season the imbalance in midfield is more due to gravy playing less as a six. No coincidence it looked better against inter with him deeper. I also think it helps bring his best attributes when he starts from a deeper position. Him dropping in between the centre backs should also help our attacking fullbacks push up to provides width.

Cheers.

11 Dec 2025 22:02:49
Would love a midfield of Rice, Gravy and Koke. 😬.

11 Dec 2025 23:00:07
There were a few occasions when I noticed inter trying to overload their left side. This season when that happens Konate stays central and leaves the right back to deal with 2 or 3 men. It’s how Leeds got the penalty and their second goal.

Against Inter though, Konate shuffled over to help the right back and Grav dropped back into the CB position which is what should happen. If the back 4 gets stretched the 6 is there to fill the gaps. We just haven’t been doing that at all this season.

11 Dec 2025 06:58:42
Hello Ed001, please could you weigh in on the current replacement of Salah? Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against him but since he became 'the main man' (especially since he won the cold War with Sadio), he has become complacent. Didn't appreciate the statement attributed to him of not needing to work for his slot (pun intended) .

Everyone should work for the team. Look at Szobo, he was obviously the odd one out with the new signing but he remained professional and worked his way back into the team. And he frankly was not a squard player.

{Ed001's Note - he became complacent? Was that last season when he put up incredible numbers?}

11 Dec 2025 22:10:45
@xpertoyin, winning what "World War" with Sadio Mane? Sadio wanted to go and we let him go. It had nothing to do with Salah and it was not an either/ or situation.

Also, Salah being complacent? Sadio left only for Salah to go on and have Salah accomplish the greatest individual season in PL history and you call that guy complacent?

Mate, you may have been watching Salah play for LFC for near a decade. However, I don't think you ahve any idea who the man actually is on and off the pitch.

12 Dec 2025 04:56:53
It was Cold War not World War, Oli. But I agree. I don't think there was any kind of war that was won by Mo. Mane wanted to leave and he forced his way out of the club in a way as well, giving an interview before our CL final game against Real Madrid. Somehow, no one seemed to mention or remember that. Mane was also burnt out in the end and his legs have gone, with Klopp resorting to shifting him to the centre.

And again, Mo said he didn't have to fight for his position, not place in the team. I'm still not sure what he truly meant by that.

12 Dec 2025 10:38:40
"And again, Mo said he didn't have to fight for his position, not place in the team. I'm still not sure what he truly meant by that. ".

This is the part where as Ed01 said, you have to be careful when someone speaks English when English is not their first language. Things could get lost in the sauce.

For example in French, a player can say "I don't have to fight for my place". That means, "Fight for my place" in the starting 11 or in the squad. In English, that could mean, "Fight for my position".

Whereas in French, "position" (in this context) means the area of the pitch (RB, LB, CB, LW etc. ) a player occupies. That's all Im going to say.

{Ed025's Note - or it could mean..."im great and the best player on the planet and the world revolves around me so how dare you drop me you baldy tosser"..thats all im going to say.. :)

12 Dec 2025 11:59:24
And in what spoken language is all that stuff you just posted be translated from? Remember, nobody nor country on this earth speaks "Ed25" but you.

{Ed025's Note - its interpretation Oli, people will read comments and situations the way they want to read them...here endeth the lesson..