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22 May 2016 14:56:07
Good afternoon eds. Sky news just announced that Leicester LB Ben Chilwell has told his club that he wants to leave to join LFC, do you know anything about this or confirm it?

natural poolie

1.) 22 May 2016 19:23:00
Ed002 has said before that another club who were interested in Chilwell expects him to move to LFC, and have been looking at alternatives.


 

 

10 May 2016 15:56:52
Rumours of Spurs £20m interest in Lallana and West Ham interest in Benteke. I must say I would be ecstatic to get that back for them two. We were never going to get back anywhere near what we paid for either seeing as we overpaid by about £10m on both.

natural poolie

1.) 10 May 2016 16:56:39
Would not be happy to see Lallana go. He is a starter in our current squad, and even with additions I think will make significant contributions to the first team. He also fits well into Klopp's system and presses well.

Benteke obviously just does not fit.


2.) 10 May 2016 17:06:50
Don't know what happened but half message has disappeared. £25m Benteke interest and £20m Lallana interest and I would be ecstatic if we got that for these two was my gist.


3.) 10 May 2016 17:41:17
Lallana is a key player for us. He's improving with every game under Klopp who seems to like him.
Why on earth would we sell him.
I can see Benteke leaving . but hopefully not Lallana.


4.) 10 May 2016 18:45:21
Am starting to like lallana. Should b still a very good squad player next season. I would be keeping him in my opinion.


5.) 10 May 2016 18:48:19
Lallana has improved a bit but i'm still not a fan. In terms of Benteke i've always like him and have felt a little bit sorry for him but at the same time he doesn't really press the way Klopp wants and if one player doesn't do their job it kind of makes the others pressing just waste energy if a free bit of space opens up and he just doesn't seem to fit our system. I think a move would be mutually beneficial for both parties as it looks like he isn't really going to be in future plans. Good look to him though if he does go. Ill always remember his OHK vs Utd.


6.) 10 May 2016 18:52:44
I really think Lallana as improved loads as the season as gone on, I would certainly keep him next season, continuity will be very important to a successful season.


7.) 10 May 2016 19:03:39
Lallana is a player Klopp loves and why would anyone be happy letting Spurs have a player who will make them stronger.


8.) 10 May 2016 19:23:42
Lallana has improved a lot but still doesn't offer enough goals for the amount of games he's played and the positions he gets in.


9.) 10 May 2016 19:29:47
Lallana has constantly been the trigger for the pressing game as the season has progressed . He goes the rest go with him.

Personally I think he's becoming an integral member of the team. Mind you he's JKs neighbour, and co actor in the face cream adverts, so maybe he's nailed on to stay now anyway!


10.) 10 May 2016 20:28:27
I think the Ed's previously said that everyone could be for sale (they did say Coutinho and Frimino would ideally be kept to build a team around and also they have not heard of any interest in Lallana) .

To get £45m for both of those for me would be good business and give JK the ability to buy some players he would like (you would hope for £45m we could get a GK, LB and CB) .


11.) 10 May 2016 21:25:41
Defo defo keep lallana. he's been great the last few weeks. Be madness 2 sell him the spurs.


12.) 11 May 2016 07:14:37
Lallana to spurs, not going to happen. He going to miss Klopp's hug.


13.) 11 May 2016 11:08:26
If the rumors of Götze is reliable, and we can redeem £20M for Lallana, and get £25M for Benchteke, that more than covers Göetze, and probably will cover both agent fees and potential sign on fees, and Marios salary (B and L combinded)

And if Götze is arriving anyways, Lallana will mostly come off the bench in the big games and play as Allen have this year.

I wote for selling, if Götze is on the way that is. Besides that, Lallanas energy have been vital for our pressing game since X-mas.

{Ed002's Note - It doesn't work like that Dan.}


14.) 11 May 2016 13:30:10
Kloppo loves Lallana. I think, in general, there are certain players who will only be sold if we are recruiting definite upgrades.
Lallana is one of these. He is having his best form under Klopp and is improving IMO. Unless someone much better is coming, he won't be sold.


 

 

05 May 2016 23:36:41
Hi Ed's I just wondered if we had any interest in Kovalenko? Looks a talented young lad.

natural poolie

{Ed001's Note - which one? There are thousands of them, it is a very common surname in the Ukraine and there are lots of footballers with it as their name!}


1.) 06 May 2016 06:19:11
Believe its the one who plays for Shaktar.


2.) 06 May 2016 10:07:13
Hi Ed's yes it is the one playing for Shaktar. Viktor I think, sorry didn't realise there was so many of them.

{Ed001's Note - sorry should have made it clear, I have not heard of us looking at anyone with that surname anyway.}


3.) 06 May 2016 17:53:25
Ed002 has said previously that Liverpool were impressed by scout reports on Viktor Kovalenko. So yes, there is interest in the player.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United, CSKA Moscow and Liverpool were all impressed with the scouting reports on Shakhtar Donetsk's Viktor Kovalenko early in 2016. He was a player Liverpool had previous interest in under Brendan Rodgers before he signed a new contract in 2015.}


4.) 06 May 2016 17:53:25
Ed002 has said previously that Liverpool were impressed by scout reports on Viktor Kovalenko. So yes, there is interest in the player.

{Ed002's Note - Manchester United, CSKA Moscow and Liverpool were all impressed with the scouting reports on Shakhtar Donetsk's Viktor Kovalenko early in 2016. He was a player Liverpool had previous interest in under Brendan Rodgers before he signed a new contract in 2015.}


5.) 07 May 2016 15:37:37
I personally hope we'd would walk away from anything that means dealing with Ukrainian clubs given previous experiences. Plus name me on Ukranian who has done well in the premier league?


 

 

19 Apr 2016 17:57:11
Evening eds - I just wondered if all this media talk of a possible take-over just hot air. I did do a search but there was no conclusive answers. I know one of the eds said a season or so ago that they thought a take-over may be on the cards around this season as the big TV money was coming in. Is this talk of what the eds suspected or just hot air? I appreciate it may be hard to find anything out for sure. I would rather hear news from yourselves rather than media tosh. Thanks in advance for any news.

natural poolie

{Ed001's Note - it is difficult to be 100% sure but, in this case, it is pretty much 100% no right now. The Dubai ruling family are interested in owning us but are not keen on competing against their own family who own City.}


1.) 19 Apr 2016 18:18:26
Would Liverpool and FSG consider a China ownership? Or is it too taboo for Liverpool to be Chinese owned? ;

{Ed001's Note - why would it be taboo?}


2.) 19 Apr 2016 18:24:55
Thanks eds that makes sense. I just thought myself that maybe they had decided to act now with the TV money due and the fact that we have improved and if we continue to improve, maybe scrape top four next season or win Europa and get CL this season, then how much would our value go up? Big ifs I know but doable. Would cost and value become more important than doubts or misgivings?! I'm not sure I'd be particularly happy anyway as it could well unsettle the club again. Could buying into the club be an option rather than buying us outright?

{Ed001's Note - it is not about the money, they have more than they know what to do with. It is about raising the UAE's profile abroad. The Sheikhs are brothers and the Abu Dhabi one had to bail out the Dubai one during the recession, so there is no way he is going to go against him.}


3.) 19 Apr 2016 18:54:10
i don't understand him wanting to buy us if he doesn't want to compete with his brother, there's no point in him being interested then unless they sell city but that's nogoing to happen.

{Ed001's Note - you are obviously missing the point.}


4.) 19 Apr 2016 18:56:58
which in your opinion is the most likely, chinese or arab ownership.

{Ed001's Note - clearly Chinese is more likely.}


5.) 19 Apr 2016 19:03:52
Thanks eds that's why I ask you. I would never of known that. Thanks again.

{Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate.}


6.) 19 Apr 2016 19:13:16
i obviously am missing the point, it's like wanting something you can never have or wanting something you can never afford, do you think it will happen in the near future i. e next year or two.


7.) 19 Apr 2016 20:45:58
But do either of them like the flintstones?
I bet the ones from Abu Dhabi do! I'll get my coat.


8.) 20 Apr 2016 02:46:32
grajac, I think the jist of is that, ceteris paribus, Khalifa would make a bid for Liverpool in a heartbeat, but his family's control of City Group makes things much more complicated.


9.) 20 Apr 2016 09:10:54
I don't understand why would our supporters want the club to be sold?
FSG brought stability and bailed the club out when we were almost bankrupt. They have invested heavily in the transfer market and opted for staying @ Anfield and building a new stand. Why would we want to be sold to some spoilt prince who doesn't know what to do with his new toys after getting bored with them in a month's time? Or being sold to some Chinese group that heavily rely on their leveraged businesses? Do we want our club to be sold piece by piece when the debt collectors come calling?


10.) 20 Apr 2016 14:42:06
Solar I haven't seen one fan say he wants a take over. It's just that one of the eds has long suspected fsg would sell around the time the next big TV money is due, around now. Then these rumours occur. FSG am sure are in it for a profit on resale so I don't think it will be far off.


11.) 20 Apr 2016 16:07:37
Just to be clear. Abu Dhabi (Nahyan) and Dubai (Maktoum) ruling families are different (same tribe) . Respective rulers are not brothers.
Each 7 Emirates is ruled by a different family. Federally they are governed by UAE govt. President is the Abu Dhabi ruler, wice president is Dubai ruler.

Abu Dhabi have all the money (oil) . Dubai are far more diversified and selling Dubai to the world as a tourist destination (Emirates airlines etc) . Abu Dhabi is starting to do this more now with younger generation getting closer to ruling succession.


 

 

10 Apr 2016 06:36:11
Morning eds. Is there any chance you could do an updated list of players you know we have looked at? I understand your busy and this would take time but we appreciate your knowledge and with only really a month of the season left, it would be good to know who we realistically should be watching as fans. Thanks in advance.

natural poolie

{Ed002's Note - {Ed002's Note - I think this should give you something to chew on for a while.

Before we get in to discussing players there are a three things which are relevant to what happens leading up to the summer. Firstly, folks (including Klipperty) must make a decision about the loan players as the club cannot keep adding to the first team squad and then expect to bring the loan players back in to it as well. Secondly, fans need to step back from any thoughts about there being some baseball (“moneyball”) related transfer policy at the club - complete red herring. All clubs look to buying and developing youngsters with the purpose of using them. If they don't use them for whatever reason they would obviously like a return on their investment, but it is not a driver to buying young players. Equally there needs to be a mix of experience the team in order to deal with the rigours of soccerball at the highest level - hence the likes of Milner and Lallana were purchased by Liverpool. And to confirm this it is not "policy" to buy young and cheap to sell at a profit, you then need to look at what Liverpool has paid for some of these youngsters. Firmino is the best example from the batch there at present - €41M potentially rising to €50M for a player that no German side were interested in buying from Hoffenheim at his €25M release clause.

Finally, a timely reminder as to how the Liverpool transfer process works. The manager will have discussed the players he would like to bring in with the transfer committee throughout the season and scouts will bring other names to the table via Barry Hunter and Dave Fallows. These would all be looked at by Michael Edwards and his team and perhaps then a refined list could be considered. When it comes to the financial side and any approaches to other clubs it will be up to Mr Ayre to investigate the availability of players negotiate and subsequently agents and clubs. Mr Gordon will, overall, be responsible for providing input from the perspective of the owners and from an overall standpoint of the club.

Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.}

The fans tend to see giant holes across the squad and often have distorted views - "we need a striker", "Mignolet has to go", "Can makes too many mistakes", "Lucas has to be moved on", "Moreno is not a good defender", "we must get four new centre backs", "Ilori is the greatest footballer of all time" etc.. Coaches and managers take in to consideration how a squad is built and how teams work together - they will look more at the group than individuals - and then they will look to individuals who can improve that group. Fans tend not to see that and simply crave "marquee" signings. It is a long way to go still. Rebuilding and make large numerical changes year-on-year has not suited Liverpool in the past - I doubt it will next summer either.

Some of this will change by the summer and there are major dependencies on (a) players leaving, and (b) how much money the club can raise through sales. However, there is known to be (or have recently been) some level of interest in the following players fairly recently:

Goalkeeper:

The money was never going to be there last summer for an expensive goalkeeper given the significant spending (and over-spending) on other players. The club were clearly happy with Mignolet and never tried to replace him. I am not sure that anything has changed much in the few months Klipperty has been around and I would be very surprised if a decision has been taken this early to replace him next summer. Mignolet has been given a new contract so a move is not likely. The club has, as I have previously explained, looked at another goalkeeper since Klipperty arrived and they have continued to look at other players from a scouting perspective. But right now this does not mean too much and please don't read too much in to it. Liverpool are likely browsing and tyre kicking like many other clubs.

Real Betis' Antonio Adan returned to Spain after citing problems settling in Italy. He has certainly attracted the attention of scouts from a number of teams this season with Everton, Southampton, Marseille, Sunderland and Newcastle all paying attention as far as Betis understand. I am not aware of any declared interest from Liverpool although he has been scouted. The club will certainly be looking for a replacement for Bogdan in the summer and Adan would give Mignolet a better run for his money. Adan would also be much cheaper than ter Stegen who seems to be the one the supporters want. Marseille may drop their interest in the light of something going on in the background. If Sunderland were to be relegated then I would discount them. What I don't know is if the player would want to leave southern Spain for England.}

Sevilla's Sergio Rico has watched by Liverpool, Barcelona and Everton in several games this season.

Marseille's Steve Mandanda is out of contract in the summer and Marseille would ideally like a new deal. They would not to sell in January as it would have given them a goalkeeping issue they don't want. There has been no approach made to Marseille by Liverpool but he could be considered going forward. Won’t be interested in being anything other than first choice.

Asking price for ter Stegen is sky high for a player who has hardly played the last couple of years. The player wants to stay in Barcelona and is looking to new opportunities there next season, but critically he wants guarantees of playing time and is asking the club rather than the manager about this. There is no secret that Manchester City has declared an interest with Barcelona and have indeed made an offer, but with Joe Hart there I cannot see his situation would be any better other than for the money. Liverpool will certainly be looking for a replacement for Bogdan in the summer - and someone who would give Mignolet a run for his money. Adan has been of interest and would also be much cheaper than ter Stegen who seems to be the one the supporters want. Barcelona has admitted the interest of Manchester City, but not at this time Liverpool - but that may well change. Barcelona would not likely want to start looking for a goalkeeper this summer and will try to keep hold of him pending what could be a "big" summer next year.

My advice would be for Liverpool to look at Begovic.

Centre Back:

Schalke's Joel Matip will join in the summer.

Dortmund will be willing to let Neven Subotic, who has been of interest to Spartak Moscow and Arsenal, leave in the summer as they chase a replacement. I suspect the interest of Arsenal has moved on but I would not rule out an offer being made by Hamburg or Hannover, or indeed even Liverpool still if others were to leave – Ilori and Skrtel perhaps. He will be available at a good price and he is a player who Klopp has worked with at his two previous clubs.

PSGs Lamine Ba has been of interest to Liverpool but he would be an unlikely addition to the first team squad.

My advice would be for Liverpool to look at Sule as I have said before – they could well miss a trick here.

Left Back:

Previously of interest to Manchester United and Spurs, Roma and Manchester City see Schalke's Sead Kolasinac as a target who both Chelsea and Liverpool have also had watched.

Lorient left-back Raphael Guerreiro has been of previous interest to Newcastle, Milan, Arsenal, PSG, Manchester City and Sampdoria. Marseille, Liverpool, Sunderland and Swansea have had watched the player this season. I understand from an Arsenal scout that they are looking again. Liverpool interest would certainly come to the fore if Moreno were to leave.

Fenerbahce and Caner Erkin again struggled in their discussions over extending his contract and the club accept this summer he will move on. Liverpool have certainly considered him in the past when Rodgers had scouts look at him. Chelsea, Stoke, Hannover 96, Everton, Arsenal and Roma have also had him watched in the past and a deal with Inter was previously scuppered by very high signing on fee and wage demands. However, Inter are confident that a deal can be done for this summer and that they will have the funds in place.

Leicester’s Ben Chilwell has been attracting the attention of a number of sides with Arsenal, Brighton & Hove Albion, Liverpool and Norwich all attending Huddersfield Town games to watch the loanee after he impressed in the academy last season. Spurs and Newcastle have also been keeping a watchful eye. However, to cover for an injury, Claudio Ranieri recalled Chilwell but matters are seemingly being taken out of his hands as Arsenal has made a formal approach to Leicester about a transfer. Leicester fought off that approach but will have to do the same in the summer.

Jonas Hector would be a very odd choice if Liverpool were interested, and I am not aware that they have declared any interest. He is very much a defender who doesn't get forward too often and that does not seem to fit the kopflose huhn style of play Klipperty prefers.

Out of contract in the summer, Besiktas' Ismail Koybasi is attracting the attention of Valencia and has been watched by Empoli, Shakhtar Donetsk and Dinamo Kiev. There is an unconfirmed suggestion by the player's representative that Manchester United and Liverpool are interested in him but I find that a little far-fetched.

Approaches to the MLS have been made by Genk, Reading and Shimizu S-Pulse in respect of LA Galaxy's Gyasi Zardes. I suspect the interest of Liverpool left with Rodgers. The Reading interest likely left with Stevie Clarke.

Defensive Midfield:

Liverpool will have the option of playing Grujic in a holding midfield position if the wish and have Lucas, Emre Can the well respected Rossiter and even Pedro Chirivella who could play there. I don’t see an immediate problem but they have certainly looked at players.

Chelsea, Manchester City, Barcelona, Napoli, Liverpool, Arsenal and Juventus have all shown an interest in teenage Ajax midfield player Riechedly Bazoer. Napoli has made an offer but taking advice from a third party who provides consultancy for one of the interested sides, the player is keen to stay at Ajax and bide his time (hoping Barcelona come calling rather than just looking). I suspect the interest from all sides will continue but he was not one for January. In order to avoid a subsequent summer auction, Chelsea has opened discussions with Ajax about how a transfer may be possible. They are willing to include a player if that helps but are aware that Manchester City are likely to soon make an approach as well.

Midfield:

I don't think there are any plans for Lucas to leave right now and with Henderson, Can, Lucas, Milner, Stewart, Allen, Brannagan, Rossiter and Chrivella all playing in an area (where only two would typically start) and Grujic arriving I am not sure it will be the priority area where the club will look to make changes in the summer. I do however agree that Allen may well leave. If Lucas were also to leave and a decision made not to promote any of the youngsters then perhaps the club would look to this as more of a priority. However, a little side note regarding one of the normally ignored players that may well be impacted by this move – Allan. He got another loan for Allan in January and there is a slim chance that he might be able to get a work permit later in 2016 - getting called in to the International U20 side would be a boost. But even that could be touch and go and if he doesn't get one then there is a problem in that he could end up not being eligible to play as a home grown player - then we are in to a big decision being made. Right now Liverpool is not well structured for looking after such players - something I would hope that they can address – but the addition of Grujic makes Allan’s long-term future as a Liverpool player in doubt.

Norwich's Todd Cantwell has attracted the interest of Liverpool, Arsenal and Newcastle.

Liverpool, along with Manchester United, Stoke and in Particular Bournemouth, are looking at Leeds' Lewis Cook.

Granit Xhaka signed a new long-term contract but there was interest from Napoli, Atletico Madrid and Inter in January. Previous interest from Stoke and Everton is gone. Newcastle, Valencia, Manchester City, Spurs, Napoli and Arsenal have scouted the player this season and any would likely continue that interest with a bid if he were available. I can completely discount Inter at this time and although interested Atletico are needing to plan very carefully knowing that they have a significant issue on the horizon. Borussia Monchengladbach made it very clear that he would not move in January and that is what was told to Napoli when they made an approach to the club. I am not aware of Liverpool either directly tapping up the player nor approaching his father as the Liverpool fans have been suggesting nor am I aware of him being announced prior to any European game by Liverpool. In the coming months we will likely see Arsenal and Napoli posturing regarding Xhaka - and if another target cannot be achieved, possibly Manchester City. At this time there have been no formal offers made - but Arsenal will be looking for an early agreement.}

Manchester United, CSKA Moscow and Liverpool were all impressed with the scouting reports on Shakhtar Donetsk's Viktor Kovalenko.

Manchester City had a sustained interest in taking Piotr Zielinski as padding for their squad but Udinese didn't want to sell him - and over last summer they stepped back from their pursuit of him completely after watching him during his first season on loan at Empoli. Certainly he was not going to be moving in January but a number of clubs have looked at him whilst on loan at Empoli this season including Brighton, Liverpool, Napoli, Roma, Auxerre, Young Boys and Bayer Leverkusen. Udinese still remain unconvinced about the player even though things are going well for him now - and in the summer they may well pass him off to "sister" side Watford for another season. Napoli have approached Udinese to see if something can be done for the summer.

The constantly fishing agent of Rubin Kazan's Magomed Ozdoev has said Schalke, Bayer Leverkusen, Liverpool and Spurs have watched the player this season. Previously he said that Dortmund, Lyon, Basel and Spartak Moscow are interested in the player. Tough to see a move to England happening.

Attacking Midfield:

Liverpool has plenty of options for attacking midfield players. I don’t expect anything to happen much in the summer

Gillingham's Bradley Dack has drawn scouts from Bristol City, Newcastle, Arsenal, Brighton, Liverpool, Ipswich Town and Spurs to watch him this season. Gillingham rejected an offer from Bristol City in January. Liverpool are certainly interested and did manage a couple of goals when watched by Liverpool and Ipswich representatives. I would not be surprised to see a premier league offer for Dickory.

Schalke rejected bids from Spurs and Stoke for Leroy Sane in the summer of 2015. A number of clubs from across Europe have had the player watched in the first and reserve sides towards the end of last season and at the start of this - including Manchester United, Barcelona, Sunderland, Manchester City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayer Leverkusen, PSG, West Ham and RBL. Do not discount a bid from Manchester City in the summer after an approach was pushed back in January - where they were loathe to meet the potential asking price, even though they were willing to make a very significant offer. Know Manchester City know that a bid from Barcelona is imminent and that will be immediately followed by a bid from Real Madrid as the three clubs battle over a summer move. As to whether he is ready just yet, no, probably not. There is the potential to yet again see a great talent squashed (at least for a year or two) if he moves too soon and I suspect he will be advised to stay where he is for now.

Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG and Manchester City all remain keen on the signing of Miralem Pjanic and although they may need to sell before buying it is less likely they will now be put off by the price. PSG were willing to include Verratti as part of the deal but Verratti was not keen and is now staying in Paris. Real Madrid would likely not prioritise the move and have moved on to consider another player ahead of Pjanic. Manchester City may still look to Pjanic in the summer but they have other priorities. Liverpool and Spurs enquired in the summer and were made aware that he could be available at the right price - but that would be very high and the player has said he has no interest in either club. However, Chelsea are looking to Pjanic for the summer of 2016 and are looking to negotiate a more sensible transfer fee and certainly more sensible wages. Talks took place in Monaco recently and the club is confident that something can be done. Manchester United, Borussia Dortmund and Zenit St Petersburg seem to have dropped their previous interest. Roma's owners have said they don't want to sell but the player is maybe looking for a way out if the right deal is offered. A real wildcard but circumstances at Juventus may well change in the coming months and Pjanic may well be a player they will look to.

Bayern Munich offered Goetze as part of a deal for Gundogan in the summer of 2015 but nothing came of it - although Dortmund would take him back at the right price (but the Dortmund fans are seemingly in unison against such a move - one because he left for Bayern Munich and two because his form has dropped right away). Bayern have also spoken to his agent about a couple of issues with his constant bitching and whining. An enquiry from Juventus led to them being told that they would have to agree to pay at least his €37M release clause before there could be any discussions - and the expectation is that Juventus might agree to do making a significant bid and will open discussions with a move being mooted for the summer of 2016, but critically they are looking at other options as they do not see Goetze worth anything like the asking price. The situation is that Goetze has gotten to the point where he has not been playing regularly for a long time but his club are still looking for a significant fee to help him move on. Bayern are certainly open to the idea of using him in part exchange if the right opportunity comes along. As for any interest from Liverpool, Bayern jokingly say they await the call from Liverpool but there has been nothing at this time. They are aware of all of the speculation and are requesting the player to state what discussions he has had with either Klopp or any other representatives of Liverpool. Whether all of this will prompt other clubs to look at him or not is not clear right now - but many would see the investment as too much of a risk - and don't rule out another English side getting involved as there is a little rustling in the bushes.

Milan have enquired about the availability of Palermo's Franco Vazquez and were told that he would be allowed to leave in the summer if an offer of more than €30M were made. That would be enough to scare off Inter and Sevilla who have looked at him since the beginning of the season. Manchester United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs have scouted the player this season with Juventus, Liverpool and Manchester United showing increased interest since the turn of the year, but Milan seem confident a move will happen in the summer.

My advice is that I am yet to be convinced why yet another AM player is needed, but if there is to be one: Mainz had no interest in selling Yunus Malli in January but are aware that Bayern Munich, Spurs, Borussia Dortmund and Galatasaray have all looked at the player. For the summer, Malli is the sort of player who Klopp may have Liverpool scouts look at, particularly given that he knows the player well. An ex-German international tells me he is getting better and better and would suit the English game. He is also the sort of player that a club like Arsenal may look to if they are planning Central or Attacking Midfield changes in the summer. Galatasaray have another solution in mind now but Spurs are continuing to look at the player.}

Winger:

Clearly Liverpool has been looking in particular at wingers with their scouting and that in itself may sound the death knell for Markovic. With Ibe, Ojo and Canos on the books in addition to several players like Milner, Origi and even Lallana and Firmino who are comfortable in those positions - and youngsters like Kent, it seems some sort of reshuffle will be necessary.

I am going to throw a new player to the top of the pile. Braga's Rafa Silva has been of interested to Benfica, Everton, Southampton, Wolfsburg and Schalke for a number of months. West Ham, Real Betis, Bayer Leverkusen, Marseille and Spurs have had him watched but to the best of my knowledge not enquired further at this time. Notably, Liverpool, Barcelona and Manchester United have watched in a number of games this season. Braga will be looking to a summer auction.

Interest in Anderlecht's Dennis Praet has run hold and cold for a while and the likes of Ajax, Southampton, Newcastle, Hoffenheim and Dynamo Moscow have moved on in the past year. Both Sevilla and Valencia had offers rejected in the summer whilst Aston Villa were also being kept informed by Anderlecht of any approaches for the player, but there is no way the player will want to move there and they won't have that sort of money to spend on one player. Juventus were represented at a couple of games but were, I understand, unconvinced by the player - but I suspect interest will continue knowing that his value might well tumble as his contract is running down. Fiorentina has had several meetings with representatives of the player and Anderlecht - and were seemingly getting to the point where an agreement over a January transfer could be reached but interest in another player has given them an unexpected twist to deal with and they are now out of the picture. Arsenal has again looked at him in recent weeks, once they knew that there could be a January bid from elsewhere, but I am not aware of them taking it any further just yet. I understand that Liverpool are again interested in the Praet, and it is a player Klipperty would like. Praet may well provide more versatility than others as he has the ability to play as a winger as well. Everton (again), Bayer Leverkusen, Sevilla and Borussia Dortmund have also been showing recent interest.

Georges-Kevin N'Koudou of Marseille - perhaps a youngster for the summer for one of the many clubs who have looked at him - including Crystal Palace, Valencia, Southampton, West Ham, Liverpool and Manchester United. Marseille would certainly be open to a very high and over the odds offer.

Manchester City, Atletico, Spurs and Valencia have all previously declared an interest in Gokhan Tore with Atletico having made two offers to take him as a replacement for Arda Turan in the summer. I would think any Manchester City bid is dependent on David Silva moving on and that has gone for now. Valencia will probably not now follow up on their interest. Spurs interest remains but will likely go nowhere. Besiktas said that they are not looking to sell him over the winter window but were open to further discussions over making an agreement for a summer move to Atletico Madrid - and further discussions are scheduled but I suspect their interest is waning. Besiktas say they have not been approached by West Ham United with any offer to take Tore back to London but are aware of their interest. They have admitted that Everton, Liverpool and Arsenal (again) have watched the player in recent months.

PSG may well be less willing to let Moura move as he has now settled better in France - but it took a very long time. An attempt was made to strike a deal for Lucas Moura to make a return to Sao Paulo on loan in January 2015, but PSG pulled the plug as discussions dragged on. Juventus had declared interest if he becomes available but baulked at the €40M asking price they were given. Spurs and Liverpool did manage to scout him earlier this season. Whilst his agent has spoken to Arsenal about him, the player himself is now keen to stay in Paris, and having settled, PSG will likely support that. As such, I suspect a summer move to be unlikely.

Partizan Belgrade's Andrija Zivkovic has been of sustained interest to Atletico Madrid and Chelsea with Real Madrid, Valencia, Liverpool, Manchester City, Arsenal, Spurs, Benfica and Cagliari all watching the player. Chelsea were looking to sign Zivkovic last summer and send him on loan, and Real Madrid has made similar advances that were also rebuffed. But it was Atletico who were probably best placed to complete a January deal - but could not get by complex ownership issues involving Pini Zahivi needing to be resolved first. One to watch for the summer and one on Arsenal’s list of youngsters again.

According to his father, Liverpool, Celtic and Munich 1860 are interested in Dinamo Zagreb's Davor Lovren, brother to Dejan. He plays in the reserve team and I have no idea how much, if any, interest Liverpool have in him. He would be one for the future.

Ajax will look to keep Anwar El Ghazi from interested parties for perhaps one or two years. Bayern Munich, Milan, Liverpool, Manchester United, Leicester, Atletico and Chelsea have all declared an interest. The player has said he wants to play for Real Madrid. Chelsea were to put an offer on the table in the summer and would have been willing to leave him with Ajax for up to two years. However a third party advisor to Chelsea blocked any move at that time citing the player as still being inconsistent and wanting longer to consider whether or not Chelsea should progress a move for the player who he thinks could "disappear" very easily at a higher level, and particularly in England - this was the same person who said Depay was not ready this summer. Arsenal have now had him watched in a match against Vitesse Arnhem - whether that will manifest itself as interest or not is unclear right now. Milan, who had a January bid rejected, will use income from El Shaarawy to explore again if a deal can be done and have appointed a third party to act on their behalf. Spurs and again Manchester United have had him watched recently.

Whilst Valencia's Sofiane Feghouli was stalling on signing a new contract, his agents were scurrying around looking for interest in the player and they have found it in Inter who looked to a pre-agreement in January - but Inter's cash flow has dried up and they were not in any sort of a position to place a security deposit equal to the signing on fee in escrow. Both Fenerbahce and Manchester United asked about buying Feghouli at a reduced price in January and that would have possibly suited the player - but not his club. Interest of the likes of Juventus, Liverpool and Milan remains no more than speculation as far as anyone even vaguely close to the situation is aware and given that all three clubs could talk to the player now it seems surprising that they have not. Dark horses are perhaps Roma, but Inter do remain keen and Fenerbahce are likely to make a very significant push (that I suspect may just be successful). Manchester United walked away after third party advice suggested he would not be any sort of improvement over what they have already. In the mean time, Valencia has said they will meet his salary demands but are reluctant to pay a very significant "re-signing on fee" his agent is requesting.

Deportivo's Lucas Perez has been performing well this season and has been watched by Arsenal, CSKA Moscow, Liverpool and Valencia. However, this season has been a peak in an otherwise pretty average journeyman career. I suspect the English sides will see sense.

Bayer Leverkusen's Karim Bellarabi's was previously looked at by West Ham, Montpellier and Chelsea but interest from those sides went when he signed a new long-term contract last year. Both Arsenal and Manchester City made their interest known to Bayer Leverkusen both in the summer and leading up to the January window when Inter also declared an interest. It is just possible that Arsenal could try and get further talks going. If Inter were to qualify for the Champions League next season it will give them a significant boost if Bayer Leverkusen were to look to sell and they had the money available. Liverpool have had scouts watch him.

Odd's Rafik Zekhnini is a player that van Gaal tried to take to Manchester United in the summer whilst PSV, Dortmund and, I understand, Liverpool have all been taking a look at him this season.

Striker:

Liverpool has Sturridge, Firmino, Origi, Benteke, Ings and Sinclair in the first team squad with Balotelli, Yesil and Awoniyi out on loan – a striker is not really needed at this time even with Balotelli, Yesil and Sinclair moving on.

As Real Madrid prepare for a potential transfer ban they have spoken with Monaco regarding Kylian Mbappé about an agreement to possibly recruit him in once their ban is over. A number of clubs have been watching him including Barcelona, Porto, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Arsenal, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Chelsea, Bayer Leverkusen, Rennes, Marseille and PSG, but next year might be a better time for a move. Arsenal are talking to Monaco about options for another player on their youngsters list and Porto might yet push.

Basel's Breel Embolo remains a target of Arsenal, Borussia Moenchengladbach, Spurs, Inter, Juventus, Red Bull Leipzig and West Ham with Basel aware of interest from all of these clubs in addition to Wolfsburg who have discussed a transfer with the club. Inter will push to agree a summer move as they don't have the money for a January transfer unless they can offload Icardi. Barcelona, Everton, Real Madrid, Southampton, Liverpool and Leicester have also had the player watched.

Kuki Salazar is a player that Brendan Rodgers was very keen to take to Liverpool with a number of sides being prompted by his agent to take interest - these included Manchester City, Sporting Lisbon, Benfica and Chelsea. But he is young and will likely stay with Malaga for a while.

Sporting Lisbon are open to selling Islam Slimani at the right price and the prior interest of West Ham and Crystal Palace has been revived. Previous interest from Fiorentina, Napoli, Fenerbahce, Aston Villa, Spurs, Norwich and Bordeaux appears to have gone. Leicester, Shalke, Bayer Leverkusen, Liverpool, Udinese, Everton and Borussia Dortmund have scouted the player recently. If an offer close to the asking price is made it is possible a deal can be done this Summer for the striker. They were asking close to €30M and rejected a €17M offer from an English side out of hand in January. So perhaps €25M would work. Liverpool will likely not pursue their interest.

Lech Poznan's Dawid Kownacki has been a player that Arsenal have been watching since he was 16 and he remains on the long list of young players they may move for this summer. RBS, Ingolstadt, Liverpool, Middlesbrough and Nurnberg are among the clubs to have watched the player this season.

I am not aware of any discussions with River Plate about Alario at this time but it would mean Liverpool having to pay way over the odds in transfer fee and wages in order for him to qualify for a work permit for a player Klipperty was interested in when at Dortmund. The starting point for any approach would need to be Italian lawyer Luca Vittorini. Ajax and Palermo have both declared an interest with his club and have both been told of the issues that exist and the difficulties in negotiation and, specifically, that River Plate are only a minor shareholder in his rights at this time. In January Inter used Alario as an example of a player they could "easily buy" whilst trying to negotiate for another player they did not have the money for. It was pointed out that his ownership is split between two clubs and third party investors as well. River Plate are looking to buy out the remainder that is owned by another club in the coming months - they don't wish to sell. A further complication is that another third party wishes to invest in the player - and this one is much closer to home. They would propose to leave the player in South America for another season before negotiating a move to Europe giving themselves what they hope is a very good profit - and that might suit River Plate. If Liverpool have the stomach to pay well over the odds something could probably be done.

No doubt much will change in the coming months.}


1.) 10 Apr 2016 10:51:46
How avout Kolarov for LB?

{Ed002's Note - No, zero chance.}


2.) 10 Apr 2016 11:20:28
Ed002 If that's the Standard of the Posts on this Forum I have a long way to Go. Well Done.


3.) 10 Apr 2016 11:32:01
Cheers for the info, ed02, always appreciated!
Do you know if Kevin Volland is considered by the club? It has been suggested that this is a player Klopp knows and likes.

{Ed002's Note - Dortmund, Southampton and Bayer Leverkusen have been scouting Hoffenheim's Kevin Volland and will look to making offers should Hoffenheim be relegated.

I have no idea how Klopp would know Volland.}


4.) 10 Apr 2016 11:53:33
Thanks Ed002,great indepth read, gets me excited.


5.) 10 Apr 2016 12:52:16
Thanks Ed02. Very in depth. Much appreciated Mate!


6.) 10 Apr 2016 13:20:36
Intriguing that Michael Edwards gets a decisive say in which players we go for. I know he's an important player in the process but I imagine he knows less than me about building a winning squad.
It seems the process is far too 'micromanaged'. Should be one man asking Klopp who he wants and who is surplus to requirements.

{Ed002's Note - No, that is not what Klopp signed up for.}


7.) 10 Apr 2016 14:35:47
Have to say Ter Stegen is the only one of the keepers named that I'd hope we consider. Seen Adan play and he's as bad as Mignolet. As for Begovic, I know you're advocating we go for him but he's already turned down the chance to be our number one before and then subsequently jumped at the chance to be number two at Chelsea. So he's clearly happier picking up more money to sit on the bench, which in my mind is an automatic no, plus at nearly 29 and on a long contract at Chelsea he'd be at a ridiculous fee for someone who is at best bang average. Mandanda frankly isn't good enough even on a free, poor on crosses and doesn't command his area very well, we've already got Mignolet for that role!
I'd hope we went with one of the up and coming German keepers instead like Leno etc.

{Ed002's Note - Actually Begovic is pretty much the perfect professional. I note the continued obsession with anything German. It should also be noted that ter Stegen has hardly played for two years and would still be the most expensive option.}


8.) 10 Apr 2016 14:51:04
Ed you said a player like hector wouldn't suit the style, but I'd like to see us go for full backs whose first priority is defending. If his fitness is good and defending up to standard, keeps concentrated and positionally aware, he can be taught to make runs on occasion. If he was a solid full back with Flanagan right, they won't add much attacking threat but hopefully cut out more crosses and lapses in concentration.

{Ed002's Note - That would be fine, then you need to change the manager to one who wants to play that way.}


9.) 10 Apr 2016 19:41:44
I would comment that Ter Stegen went to Barcelona in the expectation he'd get the number 1 shirt and be first choice which hasn't happened, whereas Begovic went to Chelsea fully knowing he'd be second choice to Courtois. He may well be very professional, but again, he's already said that he didn't want to play for Liverpool as first choice previously (and that was as first choice) so that's the end of it for me, I wouldn't bother with a player who made it very plain that didn't want to play for the club under any circumstances previously.

Brilliant round up btw and agree with everything else. We'll just agree to differ on the keepers front Ed! :)


10.) 10 Apr 2016 21:21:29
Thank You ed002, a very informative post, you have always liked begovic but do you think he went to chelsea to play or to pick up his money, i'm not having a go but asking your take on his chelsea move, plus klopp has already said he only wants players who wants to play for liverpool and begovic has already said no to us to sit on the bench at chelsea, do you see klopp going in for him after he rejected us.

{Ed002's Note - Given how large the Liverpool squad is then Klopp is making an arse of himself given most stand little or no chance. I was previously asked advice about who I thought would be suitable - clearly it is not worth my while.}


11.) 11 Apr 2016 17:34:23
Great post Ed002. Main difference between this season and the 13-14 runner up season is the lack of goals from our strikers. Suarez 31 and Sturridge 21 has never been replicated. Not even close. Defense, despite all the money spent, is more or less the same. Pretty porous. Conceded 42 to Spurs 25. Leicester 31. Scored 50 to Spurs 62, Leicester 57. This season's standard overall is low and reflects why English teams are doing poorly overall in the Champions League.

We have way too many players. First job for Klopp is to off load so that those who remain think they are realistically in with a chance of 1st team football or if young have a chance of cup football. Will new players fix the problem of our defence? Maybe not. hasn't worked so far. Will Klopp coach it out of them after a full pre-season? Hopefully. That's what he is paid for. Will be score more next season? Should do as Firmino and Origi will benefit most from pre season and the experience of this year. Will new players help? Unlikely unless it is a superstar like Suarez who would elevate any team. We got lucky with him.

Big squad. Loads of players. Tonnes of talent. It is time for Klopp to put together a team/ squad and cut the excess. Winning the Europa League would be a huge bonus for us this season.
Getting our team as a whole to defend better and our strikers to score more goals would make next season a success.

Spending the summer getting excited about 'names' coming in is probably what we do not need.


12.) 11 Apr 2016 21:42:42
Thanks for the really detailed reply. As an addition to that, do we know how much, if any, interest there is from other clubs in our players? We know we have too big a squad and some to lose but is there a clear exit path for them?


13.) 12 Apr 2016 16:11:05
Thanks for the reply ed, quite the read! Very interesting but as you say lots of this is liable to change by summer. Still it's interesting to see the types of players we are chasing - I have to be honest I know nothing about them, I barely get a chance to watch Liverpool, let alone tons of random European teams - so appreciate the knowledge provided here. As I've said before this website is by far and away the most valuable source of Liverpool-related information accessible to me, long may it continue.

{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}


 

 

 

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13 Feb 2017 06:17:40
I thought I would try my hand at a match review. See if everyone agrees as there was a few talking points in my opinion. Right here goes.

On the whole I thought we plaued extremely well as a team but there were a couple of players not at the races that we need to be firing on all cylinders to mount a serious climb up the table to challenge Chelsea or even Spurs. It still worries me that without Mane we look ordinary. Im not saying we've become a one man team but we just become slow, predictable and ineffective. I don't want to sound too negative after what was a very good game, where we played so well that we made second place Spurs look extremely ordinary.

Mignolet- Had a very good game. Made some very good saves when needed. He actually commanded his area very well for once, coming out and claiming high balls. Still likes to stand too far forward for me though and could of been caught out by Ericksson but luckily his shot was of no threat anyway and I'm being picky. A good leading performance.

Clyne- Did his job defensively, although wasn't really needed. Didn't contribute much going forward either, in fact you wouldn't of known he was playing. Maybe that was due to Mane commanding that right hand side. He could of overlapped Mane but didn't really get forward much.

Matip- A couple of sloppy tackles but like with Migs, that's being picky as he commanded his box very well and is proving himself to be our most effective defender. A very good game.

Lucas- Proved me wrong. Was immense, lead the defensive line very well, read the game extremely well and was even very good in the air. His performance made it easier for Matip and Migs. A good strong shout for man of the match.

Milner- A similar performance to Clyne. Remains totally ineffective going forward but was possibly stronger defensively than Clyne. Like Clyne though I struggle to think of anything he contributed to our forward play. Link up play with Coutinho down the left was relatively nonexistent.

Henderson- Again proved why he's the rock of our midfield. Another leaders performance. Dominated midfield. Strong defensively but carried the ball well too. Proved why he's the captain.

Wijnaldum- Very similar to Henderson. The pair bossed the centre of the park and helped make life difficult for Dier and co. Used his strength very well today I thought and showed some very strong passes which I'd not noticed before. A very strong performance.

Lallana- Another that had a good game. Some quick interchanges. His game definitely looks helped by Mane. When Mane plays Lallana seems to speed up his game. Harried an tracked very well too.

Coutinho- For me Coutinho was the only weak link going forward. It seems strange saying it as so often we talk about how effective a match he's had and he's normally the spark of everything good about our play but during this game he didn't look at the races. Passed very well but was ineffective going forward and fluffed far too many chances.

Mane- A very strong performance and seems to change our game. Everything good about our game came from him throughout the game. His link up play with the midfield is what stands out for me as well as his pace and directness. We look a different team with him in it. A case for man of the match.

Firmino- Although some of his flair and creativity was missing he did lead the line very well especially when we didn't have possession. He harried, pressed and harassed Spurs. You just cannot fault his work rate and energy for the team. I do think his forward play is better the better Coutinho plays. Saying that you cannot fault his link up play with Mane either.

I won't go into the substitutes as when they where introduced the game was relatively over as a contest.

The two main talking points for me are, Mane, why are we a different proposition with him in the side? Are we becoming a one man team? And Coutinho, why is his game so off?

natural poolie

1.) 13 Feb 2017 09:24:40
Yes the team is dependent on Mane a bit but it's majorly because he is mainly the only real player with pace in our team. We have no real player like him who can take on players and beat them for pace. Add to that his stamina has been phenomenal.
That is the major area we need to address this summer.
Add a couple of good pacy wide forwards uptop
Also left back too needs upgradation. Milner did well in the first few games but nowadays every game he looks really tired.


2.) 13 Feb 2017 09:26:45
It isn't that we are a one man team per se, not how it used to be with Gerrard single-handedly dragging us to wins, but what Mane offers is something unique that we simply don't have when he doesn't play: pace. This pace changes how teams defend against us and how they approach us - essentially if they don't get really tight on Mane he can breeze past players an create chances and goals; if they get tight it free's up space for other players to exploit. When he wasn't in the team there was a distinct lack of movement up top and it made our attacks predictable and easy to defend - when Mane plays it gives us another angle of attack and unsettles back lines which, in turn, leads to more goals. His work rate off the ball, in putting defenders under pressure, stops defenders getting comfortable and leads to mistakes - evidenced by the Spurs game. We are not a one-man-team but we are a different proposition with him in the side.

As for Coutinho? Coming off the back of a 3-month layoff I think he is just getting up to speed - it's not a fitness issue so much as a match fitness/ sharpness - often takes weeks to get back up to previous levels, I think he'll be fine.


3.) 13 Feb 2017 09:34:39
Pretty much spot on mate apart from saying we're becoming a one man team, just because Mane scored both of them goals and was incredible on the day doesn't mean we're a one man team, granted he's been one of the best players this season for us but we have many other top quality players.

We was a one man team when we had Suarez, today it's different, we have a team of quality players, of course this can be improved but what team can't be. Having said all of this, I would be worried to not have Mane in the team on any day. It depends how you want to look at it, he certainly makes a massive difference.

Coutinho has been off form but before the Spurs game every player was off form, he is fine and will soon be back to his best. No matter how good he is, he can't be top notch every single game. I'm not too worried about it.


4.) 13 Feb 2017 10:28:27
i think you are bang on the money with your match report.

The one thing i will say is that Wijnaldum while being awesome also proved that Can shouldn't get near that midfield, and he should be one of those moved on in the summer.


5.) 13 Feb 2017 10:57:04
Think Wijnaldum was instrumental in our play simply coz He kept Dembele quite all night. Any team who plays high line against us is going gnto get punished no matter who. It simply is our territory and we are the best when there is space to run at.

With our Midfield nullifying Dembele deep in his own half we simply cut off the supply chain to Alli and Kane from midfield ( One of our best tactical game in some time as Dembele simply owned Chelsea 3 weeks ago ) .
Alli never dropped into the middle and it was easy for us to win the midfiled.

A poor show from Son and Davis on the left means Clyne and Mane were dancing through the channel.

Think Klopp knew how to stop Spurs playing football and we exccuted it perfectly.

Out weakest link is Left hand side. Milner offer nothing upfront and also allowed Walker to bomb high up. Coutinho is not a winger, not oday, never was and never will be. He is an actual midfielder who occupies the flank simply coz we have no real left footed winger like Mane.

I agree with your view we need another world class winger on the left and we are good to challenge the the title.


6.) 13 Feb 2017 13:51:52
I didn't actually say we are becoming a one man team. I left it open as a question for discussion. I actually agree with what most of you said that Mane's pace and ability to occupy defenders provides space for others.


7.) 13 Feb 2017 17:59:16
Great posts, lad. Feels good to have great conversations with cooler heads especially after a big win. As for me, mane is a great asset just like Hazard is to Chelsea. Neither are a one man team. if you want a one man team, look at Arsenal and Sanchez. If Sanchez doesn't play, Arsenal is in trouble, plain and simple. As for Mane, he is a key player and allows us to pressure team even tho they park the bus. the prob with Jan was that we had Studge and Origi who were supposed to step up while he was away and they flopped big time especially Studge who with next to no pace, couldn't keep things moving in flow when the ball got to him hence, moves died.

Also, we were unwilling to flood the box with players via third man runs that drag defenders out of position hence, creating space and scoring chances. And lastly, our attitude and approach to games vs parked buses was poor. After 20 minutes without scoring, our team would just stop probing and lose focus and then we get caught on the break. Hopefully in the summer, we will target wingers who can do exactly what Mane can as he is now the prototypical winger needed in Klopp's system.

Also as a side note, I watched Julian Brandt play this week and I sure hope we get him cos that kid is special.


8.) 13 Feb 2017 18:50:28
Yeah I mentioned Brandt in earlier posts. He's got real potential considering how young he is. Two or three good buys is all we're short of. I'd like to see a 20-25 goal striker added. Especially if Sturridge leaves.


9.) 13 Feb 2017 20:32:56
think lots of us agree that we def need another fast forward in the summer, When Mane was away, we really missed his pace and drive, just imagine if we had another Mane in the team .

{Ed025's Note - hes quality RF and he drags the others up as well, im not saying your a one man team...but you are.. :)


10.) 14 Feb 2017 00:29:13
Ed25, Lukaku makes Everton better. W/ O him, you will not even score a goal BUT hey, you're definitely not a one man team.

{Ed025's Note - your not far wrong there noah, we do over rely on rom to get our goals, the difference is that thats all he does and his work rate can be sadly lacking at times, hes still only 23 though so that could improve but it may not be with us sadly mate..


 

 

02 Jan 2017 12:09:21
With Livepool playing Sunderland today can I take the opportunity to ask the eds their opinion on Moyes? Had a good spell with Everton then went to a dying Utd to Sunderland via Spain. Just a poor manager who luckily had a fair spell at Everton or a good manager that's made some poor career choices? Appreciate your opinion eds.

natural poolie

{Ed002's Note - He was not given sufficient time at Manchester United. He is a decent manager but not an outstanding one.}


1.) 02 Jan 2017 12:20:03
I agree re Utd. Fergie left them with a massive rebuilding job on their hands and he was given weeks to patch it. I know a man needs to work but its the jobs in Spain and Sunderland that seem strange choices to me. Similar to Neville taking the job at Valencia, all posts look like a hiding to nothing.


2.) 02 Jan 2017 12:41:54
I think he is dreadful personally. He slowly takes teams backwards. He joined Everton when they were European hopefuls and left them in mid table. Just because it took him a decade to do it doesn't mean it counts as stability.

Now he has taken charge of a Sunderland team who had just got themselves together under Fat Scam (who himself is not a great manager), and sent them straight back to being spineless again. When you have a front 3 of Watmore, Defoe and Borini (ok not world class but still pose a threat) why on earth would you sit back and try and soak up pressure with Van Aanholt, Djiloboji and O'Shea.?

Bournemouth are proof that lesser sides can attack and still survive the drop, if your best players are your offensive ones. You have to play to your squads strengths and Moyes has no idea how to do that. He plays to his favourites and the players who are run of the mill professionals. He has no ambition. How that useless kid Januzaj is still getting anywhere near a premier league side, I don't know.

Even at Everton he persevered with average Joes like Howard, Jagielka, Pienaar, Gibson and Fellaini. He is too scared to make changes so he just sticks with his Mr. Reliable's even if they are reliably average! Not to mention his fascination with Man United rejects. I really don't get that one. Even before his stint at old Trafford he was constantly picking up their cast offs; Howard, Gibson, Saha etc.

He's not even Championship quality. I like Sunderland. But they have a very bad individual making their managerial appointments. Di Canio, Keane, O'Neil, Fat Scam and now Moyes? Who is next? Ian Dowie? Neil Lennon? Or somebody even more average?

{Ed001's Note - Everton were not European hopefuls when Moyes took over, they were fighting relegation and he turned them into European hopefuls. His problem is that he could not take them any further. He is a mid-level manager and nothing more.}


3.) 02 Jan 2017 13:10:07
My bad on that one Ed. Thought he took over mid 2000's. Either way though, as you say, he hits a ceiling because he simply isn't good enough.

{Ed001's Note - no worries mate, just trying to be fair to the guy, he has enough faults to not need to add any!}


4.) 02 Jan 2017 13:19:58
Fair play Ed. I only started following football properly in 2005. So since I've been watching I only saw Everton going backwards. The first year I was a viewer I think they were 4th, and then over the last 12 years I've watched on as Spurs, Man City, Southampton, Newcastle, Villa, and various other clubs finished above them under Moyes! So in my era, I've only seen him taking Everton backwards. Quick search though and I can see he did initially take them forward.


5.) 02 Jan 2017 13:37:15
U should of seen how bad they were in the 90s mk.


 

 

07 Nov 2016 12:59:14
Hi fellow reds. I haven't been on for a while but I would just like to say how well we're doing. Much better than I expected. I have been proven wrong on so many things. I said in the summer that Lallana should be sold. how much has that guy stepped it up this year? I said that Hendo was starting to fail. now the man is running round with a new sense of life. I said putting Milner in at LB was suicide. its like he's played there for years. There's a belief, there's confidence and there's not just a will to win but an urgency for us to win, playing with almost arrogance again. It's good to see. Unfortunately my spine has took a turn for the worse so I don't know if I'll be able to actually get to a game in person this season but seeing us back in top four or even challenging for the title again would more than make up for it. Keep up the positivity guys, it's good to read. I've enjoyed reading most of your posts, Ron, MKSCOUSER etc. I'm currently planning what negativity to say in the summer because if this is how I get proven wrong I hope it happens more often and I'm starting to enjoy the taste of humble pie lol. YNWA.

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1.) 07 Nov 2016 13:29:36
Your negativity cannot jinx or help a team with hunger, galvanised by a manager who know what he is doing. You are just one fan in millions across the world. Just enjoy the ride (hopefully) to the unbelievable. Drop the negativity and become a believer! YNWA.


2.) 07 Nov 2016 13:45:18
Pool is is back without his Avatar image.


3.) 07 Nov 2016 13:45:18
Pool is is back without his Avatar image.


4.) 07 Nov 2016 14:02:57
Nice post and hope you feel better soon mate.


5.) 07 Nov 2016 15:09:47
Sound mate. Get better soon.


6.) 07 Nov 2016 15:53:44
Get better soon. YNWA.


7.) 07 Nov 2016 22:55:41
That was me who disagree with the get well message my apologies stupid phone. get well soon.


 

 

12 Sep 2016 21:17:02
Where's Benny these days?

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1.) 13 Sep 2016 07:00:33
Neither here nor there.


2.) 13 Sep 2016 07:20:41
To bad Benny that you stopped making pods.


3.) 13 Sep 2016 10:01:47
We've not stopped :)


 

 

02 Aug 2016 10:04:21
I hate judging preseason but I have a couple of concerns. Why is Migs still here? Those attempting to justify him just yesterday saying he's still good enough, still think that? Another mistake. Mane showing why he took nearly half a season to score for Saints, lots of running and pace but largely ineffective for me. I wouldn't usually judge so early but a £35m price tag allows that in my opinion, especially when it was spent attempting to add a goal threat from wide. I was one questioning this buy and I've seen nothing that makes me think I was wrong. In fact he's been competely out shone by one of our own youngsters. One thing I don't get from last night is why Wijnaldum was played deep? Why buy an attacking mid then shoehorn him in by playing him completely out of position. Injuries still happening are a worry too!

natural poolie

1.) 02 Aug 2016 10:59:51
Wijnaldum was never bought to replace Coutinho, Firmino and Mane. He played the deeper role at PSV and I believe that is the reason he is at the club.
I hope I am wrong on this one.


2.) 02 Aug 2016 11:25:09
Natural, migs- fair enough he isn't good enough but judging mane without him having played a competitive game for us is bloody ludicrous no matter how much we paid .


3.) 02 Aug 2016 11:38:21
Mane the player we need . He what's to be his man instead of passing it sideways or backwards . 1st half last night we can 2 or 3 so could they . 2rd half nobody was good.


4.) 02 Aug 2016 11:39:04
the point about mane, coutinho, firmino and even guys like milner and hendo etc is that we shouldn't be relying on them to provide the bulk of goals. Milner had a great season. had we had a fit a firing striker banging in 20+ goals a season then milner's contribution becomes gold. I agree we want to see more output from Mane and others, but it'll be a team contribution in the end.


5.) 02 Aug 2016 12:30:35
Mane will be a good player and provide a threat like what we had with sterling on the wing but more likely with a better end ball and some more goals and IMO will be our best player this season. Friendlys are pointless to judge people off. Players are still getting fitness and The level of competition isn't what it would be in the prem because players want to avoid injury.


6.) 02 Aug 2016 14:23:30
Sorry but Mane has looked reluctant to shoot and for someone brought in to add a goal threat from wide it's not good enough. I will await proper judgement until the end of the season, as I said I don't like judging in preseason and only his price tag makes me do it. If Wijnaldum was brought in to play from deep then heaven help us. Grujic was a lot cheaper and far better in that role. Wijnaldum is far better further forward where his strengths can be utilised. Again proper judgement will wait, this is simply what I've noticed.


7.) 02 Aug 2016 14:34:32
Poolie, stop freaking out over a worthless friendly that means nothing and yes, you are judging them too early. Would you rather Mane turn it on in preseason or at Arsenal. He is the exact player we need as we had no other players who could do the things he can. I was skeptical at his arrival based on his price and his attitude, not on his natural talent as he is talented and then some. As for Mingo, you do know Karius will be out injured for two months with a broken hand and Mingo has to take his place or would you rather Manninger step in for him? Slating players over a preseason loss is ridiculous and you are not helping the cause with baseless criticisms. Chill out and wait for the season to be in full flight and then make your judgement then.


8.) 02 Aug 2016 15:25:18
Cindy are - 1. If you actually read my posts you would see I wasnt "freaking out" and actually said that I would reserve my proper judgement for the end of the season. 2. Whether Migs is going to be our keeper at the start of the season or not, whether it's preseason or not I think Migs has made and continues to make enough mistakes to justify any criticism. Did Manninger make a mistake in his half?


9.) 02 Aug 2016 19:04:05
Who`s Cindy?


10.) 02 Aug 2016 21:13:39
Playing Wijnaldum as a centre midfielder is committing football suicide. He isn't a centre midfielder and if we attempt that against any half decent team we will get battered. Reference the defeats to Watford, West Ham, Man United, Sevilla, Swansea, Palace etc last season.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2017 22:16:24
The same academy that gave us Florent Sinama Pongolle and Le Tallec.

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19 Feb 2017 21:22:31
In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised. I would be surprised if it was done before Migs was sold but I can see us going for Hart.

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11 Feb 2017 15:40:12
How will DS come back to haunt us? He's on good money sitting on the bench and has shown no real form since Suarez left. More likely to score an injury as a goal. If we can make a few quid and get his wages off the wage bill then why not?

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28 Jan 2017 23:07:56
Davey I couldn't agree more.

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28 Jan 2017 23:03:48
The first half of the season has been a few good players and a bunch of average ones riding a wave of optimism and confidence. All we've had to do is take Mane and his pace and directness away and we're right back to the bang average. Quality in our bloated squad is as I said earlier veneer thin.

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21 Feb 2017 22:06:54
There are several for me and none of them are actual moments in games but strokes of genius by Klopp. The purchase of Mane, what a difference he's made to the team. How Klopp has utilised Wijnaldum, I thought Klopp had lost his marbles with that one, he's been so much better than I expected. How much Lallana has stepped up this season had a few blips but I was crying out for him to be sold last summer and now he's almost earned a mega new contract if rumours are right. Milner at LB, now I know he's tailed off a bit but I expected a catastrophe waiting to happen but he's been remarkable. Lots of humble pie been eaten but hey I don't mind. These little things have made the season for me.

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21 Feb 2017 21:55:07
This wouldn't be a problem if we did what the big clubs do on the continent and add in buy back clauses. If we did this then young players that weren't getting opportunities could be sold to another club, get training and game time and we simply buy back. I know its not as straight forward as all that but big clubs in Europe use this method to good effect.

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20 Feb 2017 09:33:08
If your strategy is based as much on attack as ours then losing the ball is always a risk meaning our defence is often gojng to be put under pressure. Unless Klopp utilises a CDM which he has shown no inclination of doing then I think any CB pairing is going to struggle. If we cut out the soft goals from GK errors I think this would have a bigger impact on us. I'm not sure the GK are wholly at fault here as I don't think our current GK coach is up to the job. In fact every GK has sttuggled under Achterburg despite their good form from their previous club. Even Pepe deteriorated under him.

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20 Feb 2017 09:22:20
Mathematics If you read the post I think you will find that I said myself we don't need him. You will find that I said I have faith in the fact that Klopp could bring him back to his best. I didn't think we needed Wijnaldum and look what happens when you stick Can back in.

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19 Feb 2017 20:56:43
I would like to see Max Meyer working with Klopp. He's never quite hit his full potential imo. I think Klopp could bring him on a level.

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