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30 Jan 2014 16:20:34
Spoke to me mate who works within LFC - Fernando deal doesn't look likely to happen, he reckons another team other than ourselves are in for him and can offer him a more financially rewarding deal. He didn't say what team but I suspect City or United.

As for information surrounding Konoplyanka - he said he has none (or he didn't want to tell me).


1.) City are in for him and the porto defender.

2.) What he said would make sense then.



27 Jan 2014 11:26:55
Focusing on our own club: time is ticking and a move for anybody seems increasingly unlikely. Instead of chasing a left winger could we not give Jordan Ibe more game time? Has been impressing and, despite his age, shows huge promise. And surely blooding a youngster sooner rather than later is a good idea?

Only name I have heard mentioned was from a friend within the club who said, and I know this isn't new, that Fernando (The Octopus) is on the radar - IF the club pay over the odds for a man whose contract coming to an end they will get him. It is dependent on how necessary the club see's the signing in January.


1.) Since his contract is expiring soon why don't we try to sign him for next season? If we are so keen on him it would be sensible to sign for free instead of making a bid. It would certainly mean that having him signed up for next season we would be negotiating from a position of strength to get him now, just like Tottenham getting Holtby last season.

{Ed002's Note - It would not be for free - it would be for a significant signing on fee.}

2.) A few reports today suggest he may be on his way to Man Utd.

3.) I would not be surprised, that have the financial means and arguably the will to pay over the odds for a player with 6 months remaining on his contract - he would cost, I guess, about 8million. I doubt the owners will sanction that amount of money for a player whose contract is almost expired. My fingers are crossed but from the tone of voice my friend was speaking in he was obviously not in the throes of enthusiasm. Might be another near miss.



25 Mar 2013 10:09:55
Hello eds, just curious as a friend mentioned his name with regards to Liverpool - have we (or any other teams) shown any interest in Havard Nordtveit of Monchengladbach? He's young and only going to get better, not sure we hold interest but me mate was convinced we'd had (or would be having) a look. ?

Reading through these pages it appears we've had scouts at a number of Lyon games with many speculating that we are pursuing Dejan Lovren (which would be great if we were) however, do you think we may have ran the rule over Samuel Umtiti instead? Any interest in him any other club?

Cheers for your time ed's

SMc {Ed002's Note - Liverpool showed interest in Nordtveit back in January last year and enquiries from PSG and Sunderland resulted in Borussia Monchengladbach activating an extension to his contract. It was suggested in Germany over last summer that Liverpool still maintained an interest but that predates Rodgers. It was also suggested that Arsenal might look to buy the player back at one time. Lyon's Samuel Umtiti has attracted the attention of both Milan clubs, Genoa, Juventus, Atalanta, Newcastle, Barcelona and Fulham with his performances this season.}


1.) He is not good enough. Don't think he will be either. I suspect Arsenal let him go for a reason.

Norwegian Red.

2.) Fairplay NR as a Norwegian know far more about the player than me - if he isn't good enough then obviously I hope we don't sign him.

Hey man as a Norwegian what do you think of Herman Stengel? You think he will be the next big player from Norway?




10 Mar 2013 11:46:33
Hi ed's, do you know of any interest from us (or any other clubs) in Lucas Fernando of Gremio? Cheers

SMc {Ed002's Note - There is plenty of interest in him from Russia.}





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19 Mar 2017 18:49:44
Really entertaining game, end to end, loads of talking points and, on balance of play, a fair result. This is how I saw it:

Mignolet - 6/ 10 - blameless for the goal, distribution was OK, didn't make too many saves as it was city misses, rather than saves, that were the issue.

Clyne - 5/ 10 - played some decent, forward passes today which is the first time I have seen him do that for ages. Still didn't give us much up front though and was continuously tortured defensively by City.

Milner - 6/ 10 - stepped up to take the penalty and delivered once more. Full of energy and tried to support the attack but lacked the quality to do so. Defensively decent but was targeted to an extent by city and the cross that lead to their goal came from his side.

Klavan - 5/ 10 - my heart was in my mouth every time I saw him playing a pass. Distribution wise he is very dodgy. Also got sucked out a few times marking Sterling amongst others and looked fragile at many points. Did OK but, as has been mentioned, looks frightened by pace.

Matip - 6/ 10 - probably our best defender on the day won a number of headers, broke up there attacks and made life as difficult as possible for them. Still looked vulnerable though (as did the team) - was this down to bad defending or good attacking from City? Probably a bit of both.

Emre Can - 8/ 10 - been a big critic of his but he stepped up in this game big time. He got off to a typical start - give away passes, couldn't stamp his authority onto the game - but he grew into the game superbly. This is the first time I really saw him use his physicality and athleticism to its maximum effect - he broke up play, played some good passes and made some very good bursts forward (particularly 2nd half) . I was impressed by his contribution and play, he was everywhere and, for me, our man of the match.

Wijinaldum - 8/ 10 - another player who was everywhere from breaking up play to creating chances. His passing is neater than Can's and his reverse pass to Firmino (for the Lallana chance) was superb. Thought he had a really good game in defence and attack - wish he would get forward a bit more as he clearly has the tools to cause damage to the opposition.

Lallana - 7/ 10 - demure start but grew into the game and was a big asset with his pressing and movement. Didn't always do great and that miss was scandalous but he played well and was at the heart of all of our good moves - he will be having nightmares about that miss tonight though!

Coutinho - 6/ 10 - drifted in and out of the game which is a recurrent theme since his injury. Thought he actually started coming into the game more and linking with Firmino well before he was substituted and would not have minded him staying on longer. Hope he can find his form soon.

Mane - 7/ 10 - full of running, an absolute menace to defences, won a penalty and was involved in most of our best attacking pieces of play. He did very well and made city's defence very edgy.

Firmino - 7/ 10 - mixed game for the Brazilian. Good pressing as we simply expect from him now - some good link up play and good touches around the box - but some less than impressive finishing and decision-making at crucial moments (1-on-1 with Caballero; shot instead of cross to Lallana) though his touch for Lallana's golden chance was sublime.


Origi - 5/ 10 - thought he was pretty disappointing to be honest he came in with a good amount of time to make an impact but never really got himsefl into the game. Didn't really link up well with team mates or threaten cities defence with any direct running or displays of power. Overall was very tame and actually offered less than Coutinho did.

Lucas - n/ a - came on to shore up the back and didn't really have enough touches to make any sort of assessment of his quality.

Klopp - thought the tactics for the most part were right. City pushed hard early and then tired considerably and we looked to press hard when that happened. Were a number of very dodgy moments defensively but an equal (if not greater) amount fo positive moments in attack. I thought our attitude to the game the most puzzling though - after we scored we were in a clear ascendancy with City on the ropes, what did we do? Decided to take it easy, allow our levels to slip and invite pressure - city took the invitation and scored. Again later in the game I thought we had a real opportunity to get at City and perhaps snatch a winner - we instead decided to play safe and eek out a draw. It felt like points dropped in some ways (clear cut chances missed, overall strong play) but City also had a lot of good chances as well as us getting some luck with decisions (Milner's foul on Sterling in the 6 yard box as he was about to finish - if ref see's it surely penalty and red card) . Overall I loved the game because of the entertainment and would have loved it more had we managed to snatch a winner. Areas to improve on, as always, but a good performance and a decent point earned away to City.


1.) 19 Mar 2017 19:17:47
Good post Seano, but 5 is about 3 too much for Clyne.

2.) 19 Mar 2017 19:35:06
Harsh in clyne! Thought he had a good game, didn't attack because we would get torn apart on the counter.

3.) 19 Mar 2017 19:53:14
Firmino won the penalty not mane.

4.) 19 Mar 2017 20:44:19
So you give our back 5 (inc keeper) 5 or 6 out of 10. Im sorry. I don't agree. Very harsh.

5.) 19 Mar 2017 21:02:06
Could not agree more RedFuzz.

6.) 19 Mar 2017 21:50:40
Sorry Fuzz Clyne was horrible, every time they attacked he's side was a goal waiting to happen.

7.) 19 Mar 2017 22:03:01
Seano good post but the penalty that sterling should have got wouldn't have been a red card it would only have been a yellow because of the new laws mate and when firminio was through on cabalero i think he didn't pass to lallana because 1. stones readjusted to get closer to lallana and 2 the tap in lallana had just missed was fresh in hie head. But as i said good post.

8.) 19 Mar 2017 23:02:36
to be honest i just cannot see what you're saying about clyne at all. I thought he was very very good today defensively and marked sane almost out of the game, the vast majority of citys good stuff came from sterling and de bruyne on the right. Definitely thought he was the best defender after matip and made some crucial interceptions- granted he did not do much at all from an attacking perspective but when you are marking a guy as sharp and fast as Sane then you cannot leave yourself open and im finding it quite hard to see how u can give milner a 6 defensively and clyne a 5 to be honest.

9.) 19 Mar 2017 23:21:20
Good post overall, Seano. But I think Clyne was very good defensively and kept Sane pretty quiet judging by the form he's currently in. He got forward when necessary BUT was maybe told to hold his position due to Sane's pace and not getting caught out. Also, Firmino was very good to judging by the fact that he only trained two days leading to the game so not enuff sharpness there.

10.) 20 Mar 2017 05:02:58
Clyne got done a few times by Sane and a number of their most dangerous pieces of play in the first half eminated from his side. He did OK defensively, and I did give him a 5 because it was an improvement on recent performances, but he hardly set the world alight either nor did he do anything of note getting forward - he was not as amazing as some are saying in my opinion.

As for the defence getting 5's and 6's? We got torn apart multiple times and City had a number of very, very presentable chances which they failed to take. We had a good number of chances too. As I alluded to in the original post City attacked well and we didn't defend as well as we could - most of their best chances were squandered, not because of great defending, but because they fluffed there lines. Sorry but the defence just wasn't good, it was our attack that shone.

11.) 20 Mar 2017 05:03:59
p. s. I also think Firmino did very well - if he could of added a goal he would of been man of the match - he still played well though and made cities life difficult.

12.) 20 Mar 2017 05:06:16
@ bruffalo - I was thinking the exact same thing about why Firmino didn't pass - maybe the miss Lallana had moments earlier made him think he was better off having a pop himself. Completely understandable but the wrong decision I think.

13.) 20 Mar 2017 05:44:27
Thought clyne was fine. He won loads of balls and covered sane and then sterling very well most of the game. Got beat a couple times, but that happens. Not saying he is some kind of world class RB, but I think some of the criticism lately has been unfair.

14.) 20 Mar 2017 08:59:24
Average of 6.3 per player. What do you expect playing one of the best and most expensive teams in Europe away from home? Seems a bit harsh.

15.) 20 Mar 2017 09:55:31
Lol Sane made Clyne look worse than average and the 94th minute free shot from Aguero was all due Clyne being out of position. He was left free inside the 6 yard box.

16.) 20 Mar 2017 11:31:21
Aguero and sane will make most defenders look less than average. Get some perspective.

17.) 20 Mar 2017 23:35:17
clyne has 2 guys to mark there. he loses either way.



05 Mar 2017 04:42:07
We were great against Arsernal - almost like a different team compared to the one who showed up against Leicester. I'm going to compare performances.

Mignolet - similar actually. Came for a punch and completely missed it, dallied on the ball a few times, goal was not his fault but he didn't do amazingly either. Gives no condfidence to the back line.

Clyne - offered more of an attacking outlet against Arsenal but is so disastrously bad at crossing and passing that the space he found himself in was wasted. Still worked a lot harder than he did against Leicester.

Matip - looked fine, defended reasonably well, had a good chance with a header that he did not connect with.

Klavan - looked far more solid than Lucas and read the game well. He is an unspectacular player but he does the small things well - feel like this performance shows why he should of started against Leicester.

Milner - far more energy getting up and down in this game, more committed, better crossing, just a huge upgrade in performance.

Emre Can - his first good game for quite a long time. I feared the worst when Arsenal brought on Sanchez and Walcott and, to be fair, Can was lucky not to get a second yellow. But he was strong and he made his prescence felt in that midfield, if he can produce that level of performance regularly he can be an asset.

Wijinaldum - very effective display from the midfielder. Neat in possession, good in the tackle, kept us moving the ball round nicely and finished off with a well taken goal. Compared to his statuesque performance against Leicester this was like watching a different player.

Lallana - the biggest turn around in performance in the entire squad. Pressed relentlessly with energy and intensity, was economical in possession, was good on the ball and off the ball and, had Mane not played so good, would have been man of the match. He has to find these levels against all opposition.

Mane - man of the match by a distance he tortured Monreal all night. His energy levels were nothing short of outstanding, his finish was good and all round contribution to the team was exceptional - he had a low key game vs Leicester but the difference is, for him at least, that is a rarity - this performance is what we have seen all season, he has been a revelation.

Coutinho - decent on the ball, did far more defensively than he did against Leicester, tired toward the end and never really found that magic spark. He is a bad patch at the moment but the quality is obviously there.

Firmino - I think it shows how good he can be - lots of energy and movement and, crucially, his team mates also had lots of energy and movement. When they do that it gives everybody a little more space, more options for the pass and more chance to breakdown teams and grab goals. For Firmino to play his best football (and get us goals) he needs the entire midfield pushing and pressing and making those forward bursts - both Firmino and the entire team look a different proposition when they do that.

Origi - lad did very well, was full of energy and checked his run perfectly in order to stay onside and provide Gini with the 3rd. Did was a good substitute should do - impact the game and cause tired defenders provlems.

Lucas - game was practically over, did little.

TAA - didn't even toucxh the ball - given Clyne's form though he should be starting games.

Klopp - these games are not Klopp's biggest test, we know he can beat the best teams. The challenge now comes against Burnley - a notoriously defensive team who will look to exploit all of our defensive weaknesses and give us little space to operate in. Beating our rivals counts for nothing if we go and drop points in the following game, he has to show he can get the team up for games like Burnley and that we can start to put together a run of games - we have to if we want top 4.


1.) 05 Mar 2017 19:18:52
What about Migs wold class save?

Criticise when necessary but balance it with credit when it due as well.

The Big bonus for me is that we won without Hendo.



27 Feb 2017 05:01:27
Not Liverpool related just a curiosity more than anything else. The placement of away fans seems to vary significantly club-to-club: some like ourselves have fans at one end of the stadium - for me I like this dynamic as I think it creates a nice back and forth between fans. Other clubs place fans to the side (Crystal Palace, Everton, etc) and others place then randomly further back or in a higher tier (Manchester United, Newcastle United) . I'd like to know, if a poster or Ed could inform me, as to why there is such a variation in fan placement? Is this a security/ access issue based on keeping fans apart? Is it designed to make away fans presence (and subsequent noise) make less of an impact? Or are there other reasons for these variations? Thanks in advance for any answers.


{Ed002's Note - It is up to clubs to make provision for away fans - the placement is up to them. They of course have to prove safety and secgregartion etc. to the Premier League at the start of each season.}

1.) 27 Feb 2017 11:15:43
I quite like the idea of what happens at old Trafford (I've lost 99% of you already but please hear me out! ) where the away fans are in the corner but higher up.

This essentially means the away team have absolutely no corner of the ground where they aren't in contact with rival fans at pitch level when taking throw ins or corners. It can add an extra small little element of intimidation could it not?

Would be interested in your thoughts lads.

2.) 27 Feb 2017 15:56:57
Thanks for the reply Ed.



15 Jan 2017 18:41:32
Tight game, this is how I saw it from our end:

Mignolet - Good for the most part. Number of good saves, claimed most crosses well and seems to have improved his dsitribution. Still makes odd decisions at times but he played well tonight.

Milner - did well, was kept busy by Mhikitariyan all night but kept on going, scored a pen and gave us some badly needed leadership. Foul on him by Rooney was nasty as well - that is wasn't even a yellow was beyond belief.

Alexander-Arnold - let's face it the kid struggled a bit tonight. He looked flustered, was making poor decisions (due to inexperience and nerves most likely) and got caught in possession too. Having said that, despite Martial getting the better of him first half he did not have much of a look-in second half, the lad improved considerably. Overall he did alrite given it was his full Premier League debut, hopefully valuable experience he can take with him in future.

Lovren - was very good. Commanding in the air (in our box and theirs) and defended very well. Got a really harsh yellow card but, apart from that, did little wrong. I'm not sure who was at fault for the goal as my stream died - if anyone can enlighten me I'd be delighted.

Klavan - wasn't great to be honest. Looked shaky, got caught out a few times and was pretty poor when in possession. He defends pretty well but has lapses and he had a few tonight (which were not punished) .

Emre Can - a mixed game: some of the usual wayward, brainless passing but definitely more thrust in terms of getting up the pitch. Was also much stronger in the tackle and provided steel in the midfield which we needed, particularly second half.

Henderson - as he does so consistently well he just makes us tick. In defence he provides good cover, good leadership and a cool head - in attack he provides slick passes and tidy possession. What he does seems innocuous but it contributes a lot to our success, it was another good game for him.

Wijinaldum - if we ignore his glaring miss in injury time (which might be difficult) then you could say that he was average at best. Give the lad credit though he pops up into some dangeroius areas - he really has an eye for a run/ positioning - but his finishing is woeful. His decision making in terms of passing was also nothing special tonight. He wasn't terrible but he can/ should do much better.

Origi - caused problems with his pjhysicality and directness but seemed to be too far away from goal to utilize is most times. Issue for me is over his decision making and finishing. He did pretty well though and made their defenders lives uncomfortable.

Firmino - his energyu levels and closing down off the ball where, as usual, great. But his attacking prowess grew as soon as Coutinho was on the pitch. He should of done much better with the chance he had if truth be told and, on more than one occasion, I was annoyed with a daft flick he tried in a far from ideal area. With Coutinho back to fitness I hope we see the best of Firmino again.

Lallana - tough night for him. The wide positions just don't suit him and he struggled to make his prescence felt. He had moments and, as always, his class on the ball is unquestionable. I'd like to see him back in that midfield 3 again though, if we face overly physical opponents (like those tonight) then Emre Can is arguably the better option.

Coutinho - Lifted us the moment he was brought on. Excellent passing, good touch and technique, just a menace for defences to try and deal with. His fitness (and hopefully maintenance of his fitness) will play a big part in the second part of the season - when Mane is back we will start looking very tasty again I fancy.

Klopp - in general he got it right. A draw was probably not unfair on the balance of play but we could have won that game on another day - and United fans would probably be able to say something similar.

Ref - only bone of contention for me. There was a couple of pretty shocking tackles from United (Rooney's on Milner a favorite; Pogba's choke on Henderson) which were just not fairly punished. Rooney's was a potential red but at least a yellow but got nothing. Pogba should have got a yellow for his handball, a yellow for whatever that was on Henderson and a couple of other incidences. I felt like United were enabled to play a rough, aggressive style by e ref who simply failed to punish their players for their rough, over zealous play. A ref who yellow carded Lovren for a perfectly good tackle that had no malice what-so-ever. Having said that the result was certainly not influenced by the ref - on balance it was fair and, given both teams form, I'd of taken a draw before the game. We move on to the next challenge.


1.) 15 Jan 2017 18:49:06
Nice Seano, but I don't agree with the Can comments.

He's a dangerous player and we need someone else there.

Still, he's got a future, but for me, at the moment, it's on the bench.

Nice point for us there, and proof that we can still match the teams at the top.

Onward again after today me thinks

2.) 15 Jan 2017 18:57:42
Was it me or the minute Coutihno stepped on the pitch you could see the return of a great bromance w/ firmino? Seriously. you see how we tick much betters with couts and Firmino center. Yes. HendoS return was equally important.

3.) 15 Jan 2017 19:04:41
Decent analysis. The team was never set up to score goals. The midfielders in between Can and Wiji has 4 goals in the league. The front three tried their best but they hardly got any support from midfield. Lallana desperately need to be dropped into the middle. He needs actions infront if him not himself. We miss Coutinho. The lad is supreme quality.
United had some good chances and on another day Micky would have scored 2 and Pogba 1.
A point is exactly what we set up for tonight.

4.) 15 Jan 2017 19:10:54
@Davey - In games that require more physicality i'd play Can over Wiji is what I meant to say, Lallana should be starting as 1 of the midfield 3 every game.

5.) 15 Jan 2017 19:53:56
2 things in that mate:

Firstly, while I don't believe the ref had any form of bias, they should have been playing over half the match with 10 men and Pogba didn't even get a yellow. That is a massive influence on the game and it was only a ridiculously good save by Mingolet that stopped it being even more of an influence, because they very nearly scored as a direct result of the headlock being punished.

Secondly, Lovren did not have a good game. He did some good stuff but he was poorly positioned several times without any good reason, and twice played poor back passes that they very nearly scored from (and once should have) . Every time Lovren had time to think today it went poorly and that isn't good enough.

6.) 15 Jan 2017 20:23:15
Don`t blame Klopp at all for setting up the midfield to be more work-man-like. Utd play a physical game in midfield and we needed all our physical players on the pitch to match them. we were missing players and in a sticky patch so you have to make sure you don`t concede first (which we did not) and then go from there.

Also, we went there first, not to conceded but hit them on the break whenever we press hem and we did press them well in critical moments hence, the chances we created. The strikers already knew they wouldn`t have a lot f chances and would be needed to work hard especially, out of possession especially on the flanks.

We needed a solid team performance to get a result and we got that even tho, a win would have been more welcome. Had we won, no one would have cared how we set up. Take the point and we move on.

7.) 15 Jan 2017 20:26:55
The ref was fine, we nullified unt but just couldn't quite hold them out, decent point and move onto Swansea. Only 7 away games to go.

8.) 15 Jan 2017 20:34:33

What is this physical football you are talking? Lallana is a foot longer than Herrera while Carrick is slower than a tortoise. If you press well you don't need to be a wrestler on the pitch. The only way United would have had any authority on the game was going direct long balls which got them the goal. Can and Wijnaldum overkills the midfield and you could bench one for a different kind of a player.
You clearly don't understand the game. We scored 30 odd goals without being PHYSICAL.

9.) 15 Jan 2017 21:01:29
If you see wiji and can in midfield together you can basically guarantee we won't create much. Wiji is physically very good and decent movement but on the ball seems to play it overly safe and as a result he passes it backwards from promising positions way too often. Can just loses the ball too often with wayward passes. Great to see Hendo back and combative as usual. Love seeing him get stuck in to Pogba.

10.) 15 Jan 2017 22:22:51
The ref was not "fine". Herrera had more than 2 yellow card offences, Ibra led with his elbows on every header, Rooney had studs up against Milner and Pogba should have gone.
If the FA don't act retrospectively it is nothing short of cheating.

11.) 15 Jan 2017 22:27:46
Wiji (If that's what we're now calling him? ) Has been much much better this season than the majority on here give him credit for.

He is simple in his play which is fine when you have four players ahead of you being creative.

His understanding with Hendo and Lallana has grown in that Can is very much the back up player to those three.

If those three play together then I'd back us to win most games

12.) 16 Jan 2017 05:16:28
That rich coming from you, Harry? Have you read your own posts? Utter nonsense. Klopp played both Wiji and Can vs City in a bid to outwork and press them in midfield n he did the same today especially with Can who stifled Pogba into having a poor game duo his ability to match up with Pogba`s size and athleticism. Mentioning Carrick and Herrera is pointless as I never referred to them in my post so learn to rea next time. In both games, we had the upper hand physically which allowed the press to be so effectively executed y Lallana ad Firmino.



12 Dec 2016 04:22:50
Karius has looked real shakey and has conceded a few soft goals in the last couple of games - talk of putting Mignolet back in the team is just insanity though. Can fans remember Mignolet? Karius might not be saving shots he should but Mignolet did that plenty of times too - he also messed up numerous crosses and couldn't pass a ball to save his life - and has had 3+ years to show his skills. For better or worse Karius needs to play so he can either rediscover his form or so we can discover whether or not he is a viable goalkepper for us moving forward. It can be infuriating but the lad needs time - let's give it him.

As for the game itself a number of poor performances meant it was the team again, rather than the individual, who was at fault. Clyne was really bad, awful distribution and non-existent defensively. Lovren was poor and hesitant - not sure why he was subbed at half-time but if it wasn't due to injury I would still not be surprised. Wijinaldum lost the ball an infuriating amount of times and look labored and lost. Lallana, despite scoring, reverted to his old ways of way too many touches resulting in drastically slowed down play. Firmino was anonymous - doesn't look anywhere near as effective on the left as he does in the centre. Origi was decent in spells but didn't really do enough over the course of the game. Nobody really shone in this game and we haven't been able to say that many times this season - hope we can fight our way out of this slump - were on a poor run against teams we should be picking up more points from, hope it improves against Middlesbrough - not confident though, they were a bogey team for us last time they were in the prem!


{Ed001's Note - my worry is Milner, he was excellent before his injury, but he has looked awful since coming back. His crossing was terrible yesterday. They were as bad as our corners.}

1.) 12 Dec 2016 06:16:54
Got that spot on the team performances Seano. We should have shown our metal against west ham and hammered them. In fact we were poor collectively. Blaming everything on Karius makes no sense to me.
No surprises on Milner Ed01. He for me is a stop gap till we bring one solid left back.

{Ed001's Note - but he was excellent before his injury, and full backs are almost entirely wingers that have dropped back these days.}

2.) 12 Dec 2016 06:25:22
MIlner is a solid defender and he tracks back faster than anyone but I don't expect much from him going forward. Disappointed with Clyne - Mane yesterday.

3.) 12 Dec 2016 06:37:44
Milner was poor yesterday as was Clyne.

4.) 12 Dec 2016 08:47:59
I thought we started fine but we lost confidence and belief the longer it went on due to the team as a whole defending badly.
West ham even had a player in the middle of our wall at Payets free kick.
Surely a man should have stood behind him to cover. That was where Payet guided the ball through to score.

We had plenty of possession and Hendos shot from 25 yards took a world class save to stop him scoring.

But just when we needed Sturridge in the last half hour ti work a bit of magic, where was he? injured again.

We have to re build confidence ans turn these draws into wins as there is still a long way to go.
Every team will gave a wibble between now and end of May.

5.) 12 Dec 2016 09:11:01
Honestly, i have staunchly defended karius and i will continue to do so, but he is not making it easy. He didn't set the wall properly and his starting position was far too much to the left considering the free kick was right in the middle of the goal. That said the second goal was a mistake by matip and clyne doing his headless chicken routine again.

Middlesbrough are a decent side and if the team does not get their act together we will be embarrassed again. Firmino clearly is not working out wide, it makes sense to get him back in the middle and play origi wide right and mane wide left. That gives us pace to pin teams back on the wings and someone with skill to hold the ball up in the middle and bring our midfield runners into the game. I would drop clyne for arnold to give him a rest and bring in lucas alongside hendo to steady the ship and allow hendo to affect the game a bit more going forward knowing there will be someone to cover his position.

6.) 12 Dec 2016 10:14:12
Agreed ed1 the Milner situation is worrying me too. I just hope it's nothing and he gets back to his best. I think he will but it's needed now more then ever.




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25 Apr 2017 09:04:44
Will do now Ed.


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25 Apr 2017 08:51:42
Hi Ed002 - as you mentioned Coman what is the situation with him? Am I right in thinking he is on loan from Juventus? If so do Bayern have an agreement to purchase him when his loan is up or will he simply head back to Juve? Just curious as 2-year loans for talented players rarely take place.


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15 Apr 2017 14:56:30
I'll echo GBB's comments here - the level of input, insight and information on here is second to none, massive thank you to all the ed's - this is the only website I bother visiting when it copmes to information related to football, there is a good reason for that.


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14 Mar 2017 18:42:54
Cheers Ed, appreciate the effort.




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11 Mar 2017 10:08:59
He's injury prone, has shown little development since bursting onto the scene (albeit this has been hampered by injuries), he seems to lack game intelligence and rarely makes a big mark on the game. I'm not really sure what he would offer or if he would be of the required quality (even if he stayed injury free) and, on top of what would have to be seen as a huge gamble, he would not come cheap either.
If the club is to be smart about its recruitment, and get real bang for their buck, then they must invest the money far more wisely than in a player like Oxlaide Chamberlain. We need to improve our recruitment in terms of money spent and quality - Chamberlain represents a huge gamble and one I don't think we are in the position to take. I our money was limitless a la City then we would have more leeway - as it stands we simply cannot afford to be taking big risks and that is exactly what a move for Oxlaide Chamberlain would be.





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27 Apr 2017 11:29:56
Not the same thing but would also say Houllier not signing Anelka (after he had been immense for us on loan) was a dreadful error as well - chose El Hadji Diouff instead, shocking decision making.




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27 Apr 2017 11:27:29
As many have mentioned the crest is hideous - rest of it looks tidy though.




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27 Apr 2017 11:27:07
@UEFAlona - mate Xhaka has been awful for Arsenal, slow clogger who contributes very little his signing has been the wrong one for them. Ramsey is great on his day but inconsistent and has serious injury issues. Cazorla is an excellent player but with a different skill set to Oxlaide-Chamberlains. By no means am I saying we should sign him, just pointing out that not getting picked for Arsenal should have no bearing on the reasons for us signing or not signing him.




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27 Apr 2017 11:23:44
He had the ability but was very hot and cold. Technically he was woeful sometimes (like basic things such as not controlling a pass properly) - as another poster said he had zero game intelligence as well - just a big waste really as he could have been immense if he applied himself.




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27 Apr 2017 11:22:26
Is Zaha a hard worker off the ball? Is he willing to track back? Is he willing to put in the dirty work? If 'yes' then he could be a useful (albeit expensive) addition. I honestly think there are other areas in far more need of attention though - Zaha (or Brandt or Oxlaide-Chamberlain or whoever) would be a luxury signing rather than an absolute necessity - I hope we focus on defence first.