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12 Jan 2018 14:38:39
What's happened to the transfer prices for players it is getting out of hand . I blame the Spanish league, they buy a player for let's say £15 million and then put a fee for buy out clause for something stupid like £200 million this has been going on for a long time now inflating transfers UEFA need to step in and put a end to this system it is against all that football stands for and must be addressed now.

I can see in the very near future that professional football will implode in the same way as the banks went and will struggle to survive as the Italy league nearly went a few years ago. How can LFC justify £30 million for Studge he has a very long history of injuries Walcott to Everton is the same. I know we have just pocketed a large sum from Barcelona and though we have the money does not help either us or Barcelona .

To replace Coutinio it will cost most of what we received from and Barcelona will have sell players and merchandise to pay for transfer it is total madness and will ring the death knoll for football for ever if we don't address it soon.


1.) 12 Jan 2018 16:06:11
It’s not getting out of hand it’s already completely out of hand! When Barcelona put a €198 clause on Neymar and PSG called their bluff and matched it, it was only going to go one way.

2.) 12 Jan 2018 16:07:28
The more TV money the more available cash the higher the price for players. Don't think the Spanish system is specifically to blame particularly but interesting post to avoid the other usual ones asking eds the same names every 5 minutes.

3.) 12 Jan 2018 16:11:04
The Spanish league isn't to blame. To even suggest that is ridiculous.

The reason player prices have gone up is that clubs have more money to spend due to increased revenues from sponsorship, TV money etc.

There might well be clubs that implode because they overspend in the expectation that the revenues keep increasing.

4.) 12 Jan 2018 16:33:56
To be fair to PSG, if he says more then 4/ 5years that was one hell of a bargain, gunna be the worlds best for a long time soon and he’s still young a massive asset with resale value same with what they paid for mbappe. Great Buisness.

5.) 12 Jan 2018 17:28:28
Spending is on the same percentage of clubs revenue that is has always been. I may be corrected here but somewhere around 20% of revenue has been a regular figure to spend on record (or high at the time) transfer fees since football was a business.

I did see an article sometime last year listing all British record fees as a percentage of turnover and they were all pretty consistent but i can't find it now. But as an example,

When we bought Stan Collymore in '95 for 8.5 million, it was deemed a massive fee. Our turnover was somewhere in the region of 50 million.

In March 2017, our turnover was announced as being around 300 million and our record signing that summer was Naby Keita for 55 million.

A huge jump in price but not in comparison to percentage of turnover. Clubs are spending within their means, because there is so much more money in the game now. The fees may be astronomical, but clubs are not spending, in general, what they can't afford.

6.) 12 Jan 2018 18:14:13
In their title winning season Blackburn Rovers spent 73% of their turnover on transfers, that's the equivalent of United spending £970 million last summer.

7.) 12 Jan 2018 18:18:53
In my opinion there are three teams to blame for the inflated prices and that PSG and the two Manchester clubs. Even Chelsea with the Russians wads of cash didn't go this stupid.

8.) 12 Jan 2018 18:42:16
The only issue i have with all this is why do we the fans have to pay upwards of £50 a ticket.

9.) 12 Jan 2018 18:57:27
Its quite clearly because of the rising revenues from TV and sponsorship. It needs some kind of regulation. Giving teams more money does NOT improve the game in any way. It just means the transfer market levels out after its been inflated. £80 million player today is £200 million tomorrow, but the spending power of teams does not change, only the prices. If the increased revenues was being used to reduce ticket prices id be all for that, but it isnt.

10.) 12 Jan 2018 18:58:40
Not us paying £75 mil on a centre back then?! I agree we’re perhaps late to the party, but we’re involved now!

11.) 12 Jan 2018 19:02:47
I seem to recall a few clubs sniffing around Wright philips and offering 11 million. Chelsea went in and bought him for 22. So I don't agree with that part of your statement.

12.) 12 Jan 2018 19:12:36
Decimus-Because that’s the going rate, FSG could chuck £20/ 30 on top of the prices and I think Anfield would still be a sell out, so you could argue they are under priced.

13.) 12 Jan 2018 19:49:39
I think if you have a market with as few major players as football then suddenly introduce an oil rich country with effectively unlimited money it's always going to send the prices wacky. People have been saying money is ruining the game since Forest dropped £1m on Trevor Francis nearly 40 years ago and still seems pretty good to me!

14.) 12 Jan 2018 20:10:43
Under priced? Give it a rest.

15.) 12 Jan 2018 21:05:22
Looking at it from a business sense why would they drop ticket prices when they sell Anfield out for every game? I’d rather pay less for a ticket but I would rather pay less for everything if possible.

16.) 12 Jan 2018 21:27:34
Because it would attract younger fans, families, maybe people who have never been to a game. plus it would draw the attention of sponsors if we were one of the first clubs to do it. Get people talking about the club. And the money made on gate reciepts doesn't mean as much as it used to. The fans are the life of any club.

17.) 12 Jan 2018 21:43:26
We are far from struggling for fans or sponsors. The fact we sell out every home game proves this.

18.) 12 Jan 2018 22:33:26
I used to view it from the perspective of supply and demand, and from that point of view, you are right. We fill out anfield every game. We could charge more and it would still fill out. Football is a business etc.

But football is nothing without fans. Clubs have a level of social responsibility. With the amount of money in the game today, no fan, regardless of age or background, should be alienated from the game on price. The game may be more business orientated but Liverpool Football Club, is first and foremost, a football club. A community built by the fans, for the fans, not an institution to exploit the fans. The demographic of fans who go to the matches should not be narrowed to a slim shred of society by price. Anfield will continue to fill up because there are always richer fans who will come, but it doesn't mean that those who are poorer should not be able to. If it was me id be overhauling everything with loyalty schemes, deals for children and young people, ways to encourage noise at anfield, safe standing areas, the lot.

{Ed025's Note - i like that AW mate..

19.) 12 Jan 2018 23:14:59
Well said woolback.

20.) 13 Jan 2018 00:12:40
I agree with the sentiment 100% AW but, the Premier League clubs and in particular, clubs like ours are internationally renowned sports teams. I live near Oxford (that does not make me rich, far from it) and I feel as connected to the club as a local may do. But because I don't have a season ticket, pretty much passed down through generations, I can barely get to Anfield and I end up having to watch the matches via other means (If you know what I mean, I've not missed a game in the last few seasons) . It's not the fault of local fans, but because of the size of the club, everybody wants tickets and it drives prices up. If I had my way, there would be no season tickets and it would be a lottery style selection process per match. That way, I may get to see the team I spend so much of life devoted to. If Metallica were run like like a football club, I'd never get to see them and in my mind, in the modern game, there's barely any difference.

Basically 50 odd quid to the average fan, of which there are millions compared to the 50 odd thousand in attendance, means nothing.

21.) 13 Jan 2018 05:50:57
AW-There is loyalty schemes and sales for locals.
WKD- Liverpool have (or at least did have) the lowest percentage of season ticket holders to seats so what your saying is rubbish, I don’t live in Liverpool or have an inherited season ticket but I still manage to get to 10-15 games per season so your obviously not trying hard enough, it can be frustrating at times the ticket process but if you get yourself a membership you will get tickets if you try hard enough.

22.) 13 Jan 2018 06:33:40
Back in the day when football was a contact sport and footballers lived in the real world clubs main income was from attendances. We sold out every week then. Did we over price it so fans couldn’t afford it? No we didn’t.
Then sponsorship came in and at one point came close to matching income from attendances, but before it got there SkyTV changed the game. They threw millions at clubs and now it’s billions.
Premier league clubs don’t really need the revenue from fans anymore, it’s just greed that stops them lowering prices. That and FFP.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with all that ron..

23.) 13 Jan 2018 08:55:49
Best debate I've seen on here for years - thanks.
Like WRKD I have been a massive reds fan since the day the King signed but living in Birmingham am squeezed out.
Conga - the membership scheme might as well be a season ticket. The ticket sale is fixed to who went to lots of games last season. It's chicken and egg - nothing to do with "trying harder". Because you went to 15 games last season you get first dibs on buying another 15 - making it self perpetuating. I enter the sale 3 days later and there are only tickets left for 2 games - which keeps low down the queue for next time. For me it's a vicious circle.
Thanks to the cup scheme, I get to all cup matches - and bring my kids. But that leaves me with almost entirely midweek games - which is not easy from brum - nor cost efficient. So think again about the "try harder" comment.

24.) 13 Jan 2018 09:41:51
Brummie- I don’t have 15 premiership games from last season on my record so the only advantage I have over you is that I’m elegible for the big games (Everton, Utd, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, spurs) I will have exactly the same chance as you in the rest of the games.
Being from Birmingham is irrelevant and other than the newly introduced local sale (heard it’s a fairly low number) ticket sales don’t discriminate against location.
I agree it must be a nightmare getting back to Birmingham after a midweek game but you’ve made a rod for your own back by not supporting a team local to yourself, there is nothing the club can do about that.
I have supported the club all my life and have been fairly regular at Anfield for most of it, however it’s only been 3 years since I moved back to the north west after being in the army and in that time I have got a membership and managed to get a good amount of tickets and built up some loyalty where I’m guaranteed European and all Cup games and I can get to a upto 10 league games a season so it’s not a closed shop.
With regards to the group members sale, I have had little lucky with that the last few years, I find have much more joy on the individual members resale.

25.) 13 Jan 2018 11:27:00
You're right, I gave up trying hard because I was getting nowhere and so I only get to a game once in a blue moon. It is difficult to get to matches and you saying you only get the big games for loyalty proves it - that's near enough half you're stated attendance. Yes I can get to some cup games, but they aren't exactly high profile ones, and more often than not, the team you're watching doesn't contain half the players you hoped to see. To get in the position where I could see a Merseyside derby, for example, would take several years of preparation and then, if I missed one, through say illness, I would have to go right back down the ladder again. Etc etc. All I'm saying is people that complain about the price they pay to see games forget how fortunate they are to see the games at all. To go any gig of an act just as high profile and you'll pay more. It's an entertainment business, not a social gathering nowadays.

26.) 13 Jan 2018 12:46:01
WRKD- Why would being ill knock you back for future games? its fairly clear you don’t know the process of getting tickets for Liverpool and are one of many fans who blames non attendance on the system saying it’s impossible. That just isn’t true.
If you try hard you will get to 4 league games in a season and therefore be eligible for the big games the following season, so it would take a year not several.




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03 Oct 2017 00:55:22
When will another football team come and play football against LFC are we going to have to play against ten men behind the ball every match . These team never seem to play this way against united, city, Chelsea, arsenal, spurs? Let's see if Huddersfield play this way because they didn't against spurs on Saturday it is becoming boring watching this type of football I know teams are trying to survive but it is killing the premier league as entertainment value and people will become fed up paying to watch boring football . all football teams in the premier league have a duty to produce entertaining games not the dross they are serving against LFC.


1.) 03 Oct 2017 01:44:06
Thing is, we are a team that could thrive playing counter-attack. So why don't we sit back too? Would it result in the ball sitting on the centre spot with everyone refusing to kick it?

2.) 03 Oct 2017 05:22:25
I'd go for me, Baine, and The Bat Tumbler. Jokes aside, Casemiro, Nzonzi, Magic.

3.) 03 Oct 2017 07:12:46
Of course they will, it's a tactic that's proven to work.

{Ed025's Note - its a tactic made up by liverpool supporters to justify poor performances, all this "they park the bus"and they dont come and play football is a total cop out, teams have different styles and some may play on the counter which liverpool have used before to great effect, maybe you want to pick their teams for them and force them to play 7 forwards?, you need to get over yourselves and stop blaming other teams for your own failings..

4.) 03 Oct 2017 07:15:05
Awkward - wrong thread lol.

5.) 03 Oct 2017 07:42:53
LOL you can’t beat the bus parking team from 2 good years now you want some favor from them lol! And why would they play to your hands mate? Are we giving them
Some cash in return? They don’t have the required quality to play high up and high attacking footie hence they sit back! You got to ask your manager to find a way to break this resilient teams!


We simply can’t sit back! You are being fooled by the pace of Mane and Salah! Yes they can beat anyone on the planet but to sit back means you give the opposite. Time and possession and you forms a shape as a team something we are terrible at! Our midfielders are crap in this department and our CB’s lol they can’t deal with a 2 minutes pressure on a corner and you want them to contain an opposition for 90 mts!
Our full backs are not defenders in th first place they are failed wingers who can’t defend.

We keep the ball so we don’t concede much! We don’t keep the ball, the pressure mounts and eventually our defense explodes!

Teams like us and City cannot sit back!

And Boy, ain’t sitting back is called a BORING FOOTBALL on this site by the Supper Aliens! You wanna Piss off the super aliens lol!

{Ed001's Note - you do realise one of our full backs is a centre back not a failed winger right?}

6.) 03 Oct 2017 09:20:24
Once again, Harry, you make some good points and undermine your response with cheap digs and childish name calling. It us a pity.

7.) 03 Oct 2017 10:10:38
It's a result business. And the so called lesser teams who don't have £30m to send on Mane, or £30m to spend on Salah, or £40m to spend on Ox, have to find a way to pick up points and stay in the premier league. It's their right to do that anyway they need to. And it's you MANAGERS job to find a way around it. The fact your moaning about the way teams set up against you just because your not winning games is laughable.

{Ed001's Note - hardly laughable, your manager does that every time his team fails to win. It is just the modern way - excuses.}

8.) 03 Oct 2017 10:20:06
Once again Andy you ignore the amount of abuse I take on this site for posting anything!

9.) 03 Oct 2017 10:40:47
Well Stone Age if your happy watching school yard football that's up to you mate. And we may as well leave the ball on the kick off spot it would be more entertaining.

10.) 03 Oct 2017 12:51:43
You need a 'Plan B' for game like that. It's nothing new. MU tend to use Mata to open up parked buses. City do it exceptionally well. Klopp at Dortmund was criticised for never having a 'Plan B'. Going into finals and having only one game plan. Many teams will play this way against Liverpool because it yields results. It's up to the manager to find a way to play against it, by using the players he has or buy players who will help. One way of beating a parked bus is constant crosses into the box, but with Salah, Mane and Firminio there isn't really someone big who can punish a well drilled defence when they are set up to sit back and defend.

11.) 03 Oct 2017 12:52:15
Stand, your post is laughable. Your manager invented the phrase "parked the bus". He made a career out of winning that way YET has the gaul to call Sam Allardyce out for employing the very same tactics and called it stone age footie. The hypocrisy is deafening.

Also, Your manager has made a career of blaming everyone from his players to the team doctor for his own failings in fact last season, you would think Luke Shaw was reason for all of Utd's failings last season w/ the way your manager bullied and targeted him at every turn esp. when you did not win which was often (15 draws says it all)

12.) 03 Oct 2017 13:44:16
I liked a lot of what you said albeyred but teams aren't required to produce entertaining football. It's the level of technical skill that you pay to see not attractive tactics. If you ask Swansea fans if they would rather grab draws and the odd one nil win with defencive tactics or lose every week playing attractive free fling football.

I really fancy Swansea to be fine this year BTW, perhaps top ten. In glucas and sanchez they have z very exciting central midfield.

{Ed001's Note - seriously? Swansea are god awful to watch and all the fans of the club I know would rather lose and enjoy the game than play like they are and survive. They are used to the likes of Toshack bringing good football, they feel it is a part of the club.

They might survive, but what I saw of Sanchez suggests that he is about as exciting as the pile of dishes waiting for you after Xmas dinner.....}

13.) 03 Oct 2017 14:14:29

Your are wrong on City! There is no plan B there! They know only one way but are exceptional in that way! UTD will take points from City I am dead certain! What Pep did was to power pack his only plan that is high attacking football with some absolute gems that teams fear to attack them nor they have enough quality to contain them!
UTD has and they will park the bus successfully!

14.) 03 Oct 2017 08:33:25
Ed025 - sorry but I can't agree. Some teams do play on the counter attack and that is absolutely fine. But there are also teams that 'park the bus' i. e. play with no intention of winning or even really scoring and just hoping that by playing with a minimum of 8 defensive players at all times, they will avoid another team scoring and get a point out of the tie. It's not a cop out - it's true and its an increasingly accepted phenomenon that breaks the very spirit of the game. It's not just us they do it to.

I consider it the difference between our 2-0 loss to Chelsea with Gerrards slip and our 4-0 to Chelsea a few years ago. When we lost 4-0 they set up to soak up some pressure and hit us hard and fast on the break, with a higher than average success rate. That's a perfectly valid tactic. In the 2-0 loss, they played in a way that made it abundantly clear from minute 1 that if given a perfect chance they would take it, but otherwise they had no intention of attempting to score at any point in the game. It's an important distinction.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think it is hjikle, its an excuse by the attacking team when they cant break a defence down, its up to the attacking team to breach the opponents back line using guile, skill and craft, their failure to do that says a lot more about the attack than the opponents defence and thats why i describe it as a cop out mate, so i think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one..

15.) 03 Oct 2017 09:30:45
Spot on, Ed25. I don't really care how other teams play cos there is no rule book that states how football should be played. It is up to us to break down these parked buses and like it or not and contrary to what the perennial moaners want us to believe, we have greatly improved in that regard. We have created a lot more clear chances vs parked buses this season than we were doing last season.

Last season, we were not creating anywhere near the 4/ 5 clear chances we have created in each game vs such teams. We played CP, Newcastle and Burnley and tho we beat CP 1-0 and should have been more, we created 4 clear chances vs both Burnley and Newcastle, which should have been enough to win both games. Last season not only were we not breaking teams down consistently (we did a fair lot of the time last season), we were actually losing such games.

Klopp bringing in Salah and a fit Cou has helped a lot and with Lallana coming back in the midfield will offer a lot more guile than it is doing right now. Our strikers just have to improve their finishing to help offset the one error our defenders or GK will be prone to in every game. That last part is sad but true.

{Ed025's Note - players like mane and salah have the skill to break down any defence bingo, i hate all the whinging about mythical buses being parked when an attack cant breach a well organised back line mate..

16.) 03 Oct 2017 12:32:00
25, I only just saw your response and feel a little hurt, you're normally so nice : (

As for my point I stick by it. There's a clear correlation between teams ceding us possession and getting better results. Of course they all have slight variation but it's fundamentally; let Liverpool hold possession in midfield, close down the space in their own final third, wait for Liverpool to lose possession, exploit the space behind Liverpool's midfield, repeat. It doesn't work every time but it gives a 'lesser' team the best chance of getting a result against us. It's not about a team playing the wrong way is about our opposition exploiting our weakness.

{Ed025's Note - you have just reiterated exactly what i was saying putney, teams will always try to find flaws in their opponents style and thats fair game to me, all this cry baby nonsense over parked buses is an excuse for under performing forwards to justify being crap mate..

17.) 03 Oct 2017 18:01:26
Ed25, I agree with you fully as I mentioned in my post. The whinging needs to end cos it smacks of desperation and deflection, IMO. Let us leave that to the like of Mou who in this regard, escoriates teams for using the very tactics he himself brought to the PL and still uses till this day.

{Ed025's Note - your right bingo..

18.) 03 Oct 2017 20:36:55
Yeah the days of nice football at Swansea appear to be long gone. At least since Monk took over.

19.) 04 Oct 2017 20:45:02
Chicken or egg, Harry? Which came first?



04 Feb 2017 18:43:12
Having been a red for 55 years this no knee jerk reaction . I have watched LFC today and i am of the opinion that there is something going on behind the scenes at LFC .

I don't no if it is to do with coutinio wage rise and players on lesser money have taken umbridge . But i believe there is something wrong because you can't have 8 or 9 players all go off the boil at once .

I say this because of the way we played up until xmas . If it is not that then i have to say the coaching staff and manager need to have a good look at them selves as we are giving away very similar goals in the last several games the players may be following orders and leaving the space behind themselves .


1.) 04 Feb 2017 18:59:25
I couldn't agree more. Do you know what really gets up my nose? Commentators and pundits saying its all Liverpool with possession but no quality in the final third. What is going on? You can't blame it on Coutinho' wage increase, because every club has a player who earns more than the others. I think it is more likely that the opposition has sussed out how to play against Klopp's system. I remember Ed's 2 saying that his system was sussed in the Bundisleaga after a few years.

2.) 04 Feb 2017 19:12:43
Personally I would drop coutihno we play better without him, original had a great run in his absence and there's none of this " I'm too good for this club" ego as he wastes chance after chance and doesn't look interested.

3.) 04 Feb 2017 19:16:36
Its simple mate nothing to do w/ coutinho wages. mid table teams are happy to sit back and counter us . klopp/ players had no answers. It was really heartbreaking to see klopp's reaction for their 2nd goal😑.

4.) 04 Feb 2017 19:20:03
Everybody to there own, for me first half of season everything was done with pace, then soon as can is back in the team once we get to half way line or further up the pitch and he gets on the ball it goes backwards and ends back at the keepers feet.

For me its ever since can came back into team when mane went to acon. Am not saying this because i don't like him, altho am not his biggest fan he slows everything down in a huge way which is playing agenst the way klopp has us set up to play.

Now for anyone that thinks otherwise watch liverpool next time out and pay attention to can, when he recieves the ball and where he goes and what he does with it. Am sorry but this guy is a week link and doesn't bring anything to the team, because he simply isn't good enough.

5.) 04 Feb 2017 19:03:29
Spot on, Alby. There is something wrong here cos I couldn't pick out one good perf from today's game as it was that bad. Lallana has gone back to being Johan Cruyff, Migs is back to back to dropping clangers, Can is poor right now, Studge might as well be gone, and the lot. Klopp seems to be doing the same things yet expecting different results. Something needs to be done or no CL footie for us next season.

6.) 04 Feb 2017 19:23:38
Change of tactics needed - play on the backfoot, invite teams on then counter attack like our front line know how. Come on Klopp, you were supposed to be the chosen one. oh and drop Migs. Yet again he cuts our throat before the oranges are handed out.

7.) 05 Feb 2017 04:12:33
Our midfielders are afraid to make penetrating runs from midfield playing little one twos with the forwards because their frightened of leaving the defence exposed as our 2 full backs are instructed to push up
This leads to a lack of penetration and a failure to get between the 2 lines of opposing defenders (only mane) .
This keeps the opposing defence in Perfect position and makes us pass the ball square too often and results in long shots on goal and fewer cast iron chances.
When hullcountered for their 2nd goal Matip and lucas were standing near the half way line 2m apart.
Hull went through them like a dose of salts

Not good enough all through out the team today.



08 Jun 2016 20:42:41
what were our scout's doing when we played Villa real in the UEFA cup? there centre half Baily stood out like sore thumb while our scouts sat on their thumbs and now the mancs have bought him.

sorry but these so called experts scouting personnel at LFC are useless. no wonder we are where we are with players who cost millions and are average at best . This department of LFC needs to be looked at and quickly and top scouts brought in now.


1.) 08 Jun 2016 22:13:11
Maybe because we have zero interest in the lad. Along with Matip coming in on a free. We already have Lovren and Sakho plus Gomez and Toure as backup. So what your saying is that we should spend 30mill on a position that we already have good cover for.

2.) 08 Jun 2016 22:20:16
So you want players signed after one good performance against us? Is that not how we ended up with Bogdan?

3.) 08 Jun 2016 22:25:16
From a money point of view. There is an allocates budget, and more pressing matters. Would you be happy with bailly and then not address lb, cm and winger?

Or would you prefer to stick with sakho, Gomez, lovren and matip and have maybe hector, chilwell, dahoud and mane?

They would of known his qualities but we didn't need him. Personally I would of loved him but not at the expense of our other positions.

4.) 08 Jun 2016 22:27:05
Wow really we have lots of cbs lovren Sakho Matip toure skutel Gomez . We are fine for this postion .

5.) 08 Jun 2016 23:06:09
Maybe we approached him and he or his agent said no european football then I'm not interested.

Hard as it is to accept; not every player wants to play for us anymore! Hopefully that will change in the seasons to come!

6.) 08 Jun 2016 23:52:04
I didn't think he was anything special in the two games we played against Villareal. Looks a bit clumsy and positionally naive and for that sort of transfer fee for a player who has only had 2 seasons of senior football under him, I am very glad we never moved for him. Besides, we have 3 strong first choice CBs (Sakho, Lovren and Matip) and Gomez and Lucas to cover, and only 40 matches initially to play. It would have been ludicrous to spend that much money on a player LFC have no need for.

7.) 09 Jun 2016 01:30:08
If u watch athletico vd villareal, your opinion will chanhge. even ex liverpool ageing superstar Torres pawnz bailly big time.



21 Jun 2015 17:51:49
Watching England under 21 v Sweden and I am wondering why there are no LFC players in starting line up ? If this is the best we have to offer at this age group god help us it is like watching robots in white shirts. we need to coach individual flair not coach it out of the players who have it I bet Messi would not of made it in England with our coaching .


1.) 21 Jun 2015 18:15:25
We need to look at Germany and restructure the entire system from the ground up. Problem is unlike the Germans FA and Budesleague, the English FA and Premier league are both out for themselves and the conflicts between them will stop them ever cooperating in this manner

2.) 21 Jun 2015 18:40:37
We could have won this tournament easily if wilshere, sterling, Barkley, OX all played and why isn't Ibe involved? They have two championship wingers on.

3.) 21 Jun 2015 18:51:27
Ings is playing, but not impressed with him or the team. Typical national team performance, ok in the qualifiers but sh** when it counts. They need a win & are playing as though a draw is enough. Where are Barkley,Shaw etc etc if they are not getting a game for the senior team they should be out there. A good goal to win it, one shot on target in the second half. Pathetic.

4.) 21 Jun 2015 20:31:42
I hope there isn't any of our players playing.

Unnecessary shabite games causing unnecessary injuries.

5.) 21 Jun 2015 20:49:42
Ibe is injured I think?

{Ed001's Note - he was staying behind working with Dalglish last I heard, so he shouldn't be injured.}

6.) 22 Jun 2015 09:56:17
Is Kenny involved in coaching then Ed?

{Ed001's Note - no Jordon Ibe asked him to work with him over the summer on his finishing. It is something the pair of them are doing together off their own bat.}

7.) 22 Jun 2015 13:24:12
That is just so awesome.

Really makes me smile and proud to be a fan.



05 Jun 2015 19:38:26
Do you think FSG are pressurising Rogers to resign form his position as manager or are they blaming the coaches for the poor display through out last season . My thoughts on this is if they sacked rogers and his coaches then we would have to pay a large pay out this way with the coaches gone the pay out would be considerably smaller . Rogers has to show some solidarity towards his coaches or how can any new coaches trust the man I think this a very clever move by FSG playing with rogers head


1.) 05 Jun 2015 20:01:47
You need to get out a bit more often, you have a vivid imagination

2.) 05 Jun 2015 20:24:22
If that's a vivid imagination, you sound like a vegetable mate

3.) 05 Jun 2015 21:33:05
I think that was a plausible explanation. There can be two possibilities:

1) So called 'mutual agreement': Rodgers was asked about what went wrong. He then said that his coaching staff (including his good old company Pascoe) are not good enough. - if this was true, Rodgers is a big damn culprit who puts his trusted person on line when trouble crops up. But I doubt FSG would be that much gullible.
2) FSG have decided to make a massive change in the backroom and bring in a DoF who would run the show. If that makes Rodgers to leave, they really don't bother.

Either way, Rodgers apologists should reconsider their unconditional pledge toward him.




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06 Feb 2017 18:33:13
Firstly Kenny Dalglish won our last trophy . secondly Klopp has played the same tactics at all his old clubs were he was a success there his style was worked out and he had some seasons were the teams struggled he would never change his tactics no matter how many times his team were beaten .

It was always the same if his team did not score then they were always prone to counter attack goal as happened in champions league final . But he discovered some of the best players in European football and that is what he is here to do most of the team are not his buys they were put on big contract so he can't move them on as quickly as he likes.

so we have to have patience support him support the team after all it took the fella down the east lancs several years before he won anything so come on guys we have a big name manager one we were all shouting for now we have him there is moaning because we have hit a poor patch maybe just maybe it will bring people down to earth we had a great start but we have gone off the boil but the boys can get better with their manager and your support.




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29 Feb 2016 16:54:30
We should be more worried about shots at goal than a keeper if as Ron Keague says we only had six shots against Augsburg and we only had two shoots against man city that is worrying and needs the utmost attention. If you can't score goals then the pressure will be on the rest of the team and you will concede goals so there will be more pressure on the keeper so to sort out one problem we must address the other problem and very soon.




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30 Jun 2015 17:30:29
He did well at Doncaster Rovers !!!! This is Liverpool Football Club I want o hear he did well at Barcelona or Real Madrid or Bayern Munich Doncaster Bloody Rovers is this a joke cause I do not find this at all funny or are FSG giving Rogers enough rope to hang him self ?




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28 Apr 2015 22:38:03
wrong !!!!!!




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25 Dec 2014 20:48:58
A. that's what you get with a transfer committee derisory bids.
B. Rogers can't hold his breath a lesson was not learnt by him and LFC in keeping him from opening his mouth





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06 Jan 2018 12:10:38
Karius is not the answer VVD had to scream at him to sweep up that is not good people.




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06 Jan 2018 12:09:01
After watching Arsenal v Chelsea and the Chelsea pen every pundit said it was a pen Alan Brazil said on talk sport in the rules minimal contact in the area warrants a pen so Evertons pen in first game and LFC tonight were minimal contact a pen if it is good enough for hazard it is good enough for us two teams.




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01 Jan 2018 11:46:53
Didn’t the blues say they're getting simeone and instead got samione?




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22 Dec 2017 23:46:12
Mings was poor and should be looked at being replaced but let's all be honest here the game should of been over by half time . The fab four are great when on fire but it is games like this tonight when they have to be on fire kill games off not let teams back into them by missing chance after chance this is were the manager and the coaches need to get in to their heads. Point's dropped will come back and kick us in the back side. I would also like to say and this is a first i thought the ref had a good game .




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15 Oct 2017 08:55:22
There is a similar situation there mate to city game we have no mane and you no what happened against city that's probably why the doom and gloom brother but I am like you I think we can beat them today 2-1.