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24 Oct 2017 11:23:15
Not posted in a while or looked on here due to our woeful form and knowing there will be some bad reactions.

I've enjoyed watching some of our football with klopp as I did at first with Rodgers. Both seemed to find a very good attacking way of playing for the first season or two but then neither addressed the glaringly obvious problem lfc have had for a long time. Our defence and gk.

We have needed a commanding confident keeper for years now and a controlling defender. If carragher had been in the team against spurs he would have ripped lovren to pieces. Our defence is too slow and cumbersome for this style of play. Last season we got away with it as we put most of our chances away. This year the team seems so low in confidence (except salah) I can't help but think this is due to the problems at the back seeping through fornthe players through out the team.

I had big expectations with klopps, and at first I was happy, but if he was such a good manager why hasn't he fixed the problem we have. Not the attack but the defence. Instead of chasing Chamberlain why not use the 35million on a cb? Why not make a statement sell lovren and migs and replace them? If he is so good why did he not have a second option instead of Virgil?

I'm not saying klopps out, but surely he should be asked what his plans are and why he is making the same mistake every week playing the same defence?

Just my thoughts after a torrid start.

Lifelongred

1.) 24 Oct 2017 13:12:36
Agree to a large extent - Klopp has done a fantastic job going forward but defensively it’s been poor and we haven’t improved, whether that’s recruitment or Klopp I don’t know but clearly he has had too much faith in Migs and Lovren in re-signing their contracts and perhaps he could have been more demanding of replacements.

My other concern is we sold our only true DM and then has proceeded to mix and match on the deep CM role and in our style of defence (sometimes seems we’re caught between a high press and dropping deeper, and instead doing neither) . Not a bad thing to show willingness to adapt but too often that’s left Hendo isolated and our CBs left with 2 on 2 which is not sensible given their confidence and our current GK. How do other sides somehow always seem to be in two banks of 4 when we lose possession but we have 7 or 8 players stuck in front of the ball?

I think we’ve shown we can become more pragmatic in defence, and one away loss to a very good Tottenham side doesn’t kill our season (We’ve also played most of the top sides already) but I feel Klopp is under some form of pressure for the first time in his career at Liverpool. We have a glaring issue to solve that he’s so far shown an inability to correct. I reckon if he can’t solve in at least by the summer then this time next year many will be asking whether he’s able to solve it at all.

I hope he can, because if he can I believe he’ll take us all the way to the top.


2.) 24 Oct 2017 15:29:38
Defensive mistakes have cost us points. Let alone the keeper our defenders have made mistakes resulting in draws. Klopp has said the players he has wanted and gone for them alone. Breaking transfer rules and showing no respect to other clubs. I like the attacking football, but Rodgers had the same attack going forward and nothing at the back. Yes we have better players now, but again not at the back. We can't praise him for his attack whilst not blame him for the defence. He needs to sort it out b4 we are too far behind. We can still pull back our season it's not all doom and gloom, but shocking that the defence hasn't been fixed.


 

 

19 Aug 2017 21:43:05
Struggling to understand so many of these negative posts.
Have crystal palace not won their last 3 visits to anfield? Wasn't one of our biggest let down s last year we struggled to win ugly against park the bus teams? Isn't Henderson just coming back from a long term injury?
If we'd played 100 miles an hour football, bit failed to score would u be happier?
No it wasn't edge if seat football, no it wasn't Henderson's best game.
Yes we one, the players stayed focused organised and ground out a win against a team last season we lost at home to. We broke through a defensive team. Henderson showed he is in his way back from injury, we have players in the bench that male a change and players still to come back.
Not perfect, improvement needed. But I forgot still not good enough for most fans on here.
Grow up.

Lifelongred

1.) 19 Aug 2017 22:36:59
I don't give a hoot how we win, just aslong as we do. Keep grinding out the victories.


2.) 19 Aug 2017 22:29:25
A win is a win lifelong. The table doesn't say 3 points but it wasn't great does it? I'm with you mate put the 3 points straight in the bag and on to Wednesday. Keep another clean sheet and we are in the Champions League.


3.) 19 Aug 2017 22:40:24
I agree mate cudnt believe how negative joey barton was about us on radio I know he's a blue but so biased, this was a big win for us due to there 3 past wins for them at anfield an even wid phil cout in team we cudnt beat them past 3 occasions, I would like too see firminio in att mid position an solanke or studge up front, firminio = workrate an attacking intent.


4.) 19 Aug 2017 22:51:22
Couldn't agree more! We can't keep a clean sheet. moan. Can't break down teams who park the bus. moan! Well we did both today so why the moan?
We won without playing well, something we struggled with last year.
The negativity is getting ridiculous at the moment. imagine what it'll be like when we get beat!


5.) 19 Aug 2017 22:53:55
Lifelong- it's the norm on here nowadays. Negativity is equated to "realism" and if you choose to see the positive then you got red tinted glasses on. Take for example today. 2 months of full on slating of Robertson before he joined. And yet the kid is doing well, and far better than expected. He will undoubtedly only improve. And the slaters are quiet and already moved on to their next victim (Henderson by the looks of it) . But your comment "grow up" is certainly very apt.


6.) 19 Aug 2017 23:45:38
5 changes to the team maybe some of them were with an eye on Wdnesday. Agree with Lifelongred too much negativity around a hard fought win.


7.) 19 Aug 2017 23:56:18
We spent last year moaning that we couldn't win ugly.

Today we win ugly and some are still moaning.

3 points and a clean sheet while rotating the squad for Hoffenheim.

Sturridge survived, new left back done well, as did Gomes in all fairness.

I'd take that as progress 2 games in.


8.) 20 Aug 2017 04:10:25
You should have seen the hyper critical bandwagon on the live chat it was a disgrace.


9.) 20 Aug 2017 07:55:37
Spot on, OP and Ra1969. The "fans" had their knives out for us to day and for Klopp BUT to their great disappointment, we won, kept a clean sheet, our back line smothered Benteke, Robbo had a very good game and we are 4th as of today. There is actually a lot to be disappointed about if you are a "fan" of LFC, rooting for us to fail so you can win some pathetic argument that only exist in the world that only you live in. But don't worry, these "fans" will be back as soon as we screw up ( cos we will) and there they will gratify us with their negativity I mean, realism.


 

 

05 Aug 2017 11:09:15
Would say I'm shocked to see the negativity on here regarding coutinho.
Yes he is a great player, but he is not the be all and end all of our team. Personally not fussed either way if he leaves or stays.
We still going to play every game either way so that's it.
If he goes we have plenty of options in the team already.
Personally I'd use it as a chance to play firmino in his natural position and play a fluid 4 3 3.
Back 4 of who ever we end up with, then there is an abundance of choice for the 2 deeper midfielders who would add extra defence and then break forward, with firmino just in front behind Salah, mane and a striker.
We could go all out and buy the best striker we could an use sturridge as sub.
We have plenty of midfield cover as it is.

Just my personal opinion, I'd rather have a TEAM of good players playing fluid football for a TEAM they want to play for than team set up around one great player who wants out. For me as soon as he asked his friends to sound out another team that should be the time to start looking for a replacement. It's not as if it's been a secret he wants his move. No offense to him, it's Barcelona.

Sorry for long post, we have a really good team and with or without coutinho we should expect to challenge for the tops spots and do well in all cups.
Hopefully if he is sold Liverpool don't mess up getting a replacement, I'd hope for all out on a top striker.
Just my 2 pence worth.

Not long now, what ever happens sit back and enjoy the football, it's going to be a good season of football to watch for most of the top half of the league, hoping Everton can pull there new signings together for a couple of really good derby matches. Us winning of course but would love to see some really hard fought wins

Lifelongred.

Lifelongred

1.) 05 Aug 2017 11:20:50
If we have such a good team, how come we conceded so many goals, didn't actually compete for the league and won nothing last season?


2.) 05 Aug 2017 11:33:03
Never said we have the best team, we have a weak defence which coutinho plays little to no part of. Our biggest threat in my opinion is mane who was injured for the back end of last season.
With the money from selling coutinho we could and should buy a commanding cb and a reliable striker. This would make us a better team than as It stands now with coutinho in it.
Just because we need to improve doesn't mean we haven't got a great team.
Stop sulking and realise we play in one of the richest leagues in football which means there are now at least 8 teams which are good enough to fight for 4 places.


3.) 05 Aug 2017 11:43:58
Franklynegative should be your name mate! Gets me down reading what you have to say.

{Ed025's Note - im sitting here with a can of petrol and a lighter welsh..


4.) 05 Aug 2017 11:47:59
Frankly, are you even an LFC supporter cos all you see is doom and gloom?


5.) 05 Aug 2017 11:56:45
Leave him alone, he is just being Frank! Ba Dum tsss.


6.) 05 Aug 2017 12:16:53
Frankly is a little more negative than some people on here but is quite entitled to his or her opinion. One or two of you on here need to wipe your noses after you message the eds it's quite embarrassing really.

{Ed025's Note - the guy would put years on us so is fair game..get a room..


7.) 05 Aug 2017 12:41:21
Frankly we were challenging for the title we injury issues with Coutinho, Henderson, Mane, Sturridge etc. and Chelsea went on a hell of a run.


8.) 05 Aug 2017 13:06:08
Lifelong red, your words were that we have a 'really good team', which couldn't be further away from the truth. We're a mediocre team, we have an imbalanced and a largely mediocre squad with a few very good players and Coutinho being the closest we have to a world class player. Giving our recruitment team any large amount of money is like giving a donkey a five pound note. Damned if they know how they got it and damned if they know what to actually do with it. I don't see that there is anything to be positive about going into the new season, I'm simply being realistic in my assessment of how things are. Given our previous form on spending and the fact that we are completely inept at bringing in top players (which there is significant evidence to support, Dani Alves, Costa, Willian, Keita and VVD all being perfect examples of our incompetence), if the club went and spent every penny from the sale of Coutinho it would only be overspent on mediocre players like Lanzini, Oxlade and Gibson. Players who simply aren't good enough at the top level, nor able to compete at the highest level, which is how things have happened repeatedly over the years, remind me, did we use the money from Torres/ Suarez/ Stirlling well? No. We wasted it each time and subsequently we had a season of failure. So form is not on our side on this.


9.) 05 Aug 2017 16:28:41
Wow frankly that is possibly the most unsupported post I've ever read.
Mediocre?
Did we not finish above arsenal and man u? For the back end of the season from Xmas on nearly play without key players?
I'm not blind and am realistic about our team, we do have a really good team which is why we need to be challenging for all honours, yes we need to strengthen in places, saying we have a great team doesn't mean we need no new players. Any supporter know we need a commanding cb.
Yes LFC have made a mess of 2 of this year's transfers, yes something needs to be done for our transfer business in the future. I didn't once say we didn't.
We have strengthened our defence and bought another pacey forward.
I don't believe coutinho is our most important player, I would be more concerned if we sold mane. Selling coutinho and buying a leader of a cb and a more reliable striker would make us a much stronger team.
This still doesn't stop us from having a great team.


 

 

12 Jul 2017 09:37:40
Pressed button too early
Meant to say love your pearls of wisdom eds, don't take all the repeated questions as a true picture of the normal Liverpool supporters

Lifelongred.

Lifelongred

{Ed002's Note - I have never come across any "normal" Liverpool supporters.}


1.) 12 Jul 2017 10:05:32
What about harry ed?


2.) 12 Jul 2017 10:23:57
Lol define normal.


3.) 12 Jul 2017 10:27:24
Liverpool supporters are unique.


 

 

12 Jul 2017 09:36:03
Bucking a trend and posting twice in just over a week!

Looking through posts and been trying to work out weather there's a distinct age to when supporters stop asking why we haven't bid for every player bought by another club and asking repeatedly about the same players.
Seems to be mostly the same posters doing this. I'm in the over 40 age range so I can look through my normal coloured glasses and be sensible about my expectations. Suppose I was lucky enough to watch some of the greatest players to wear our shirt thanks to my dad's press pass.
Actually glad all seems to have gone quiet, means we have learned our lessons and stopped being parts in the market and starting to conduct any business with a modicum of respect for other teams or we aren't wasting money.
We have a saying in our house in regards to buying things. Do we need it or do we want it?
Liverpool should be doing the same, we don't need any players other than a voacl leader in the shape of a cb and a decent left back, maybe a right back but I'd like to see Milner and taa fight for it. I'd like to c a experienced lb and Gomez fight for lb.
Any other positions we don't need. Seen a few different figures for our debt but most seem to average at about £140 million, if rather we stopped buying positions we didn't need, spend what's right high or low to fix our problems and service our debt.
We have a good squad, couple of good solid defenders and we have improved. We have some really good prospects in our academy so use them through out the season.
I'd play them in the games against lower half of the league. We need players that will go into them sort of games willing to fight for their place instead of going in assuming they are better than the other team, we might even turn some of them draws into wins.
I know I go on when I lost, don't worry I'll stop again soon!

Long and short of it is sit back, wait and c what comes, ask your questions but please check the search box first as 9 times out of 10 someone has asked about 99% of the worlds players already.
In the mean time enjoy life as tomorrow always comes who ever we do or don't sign. It will soon be time for a lot of fans on here to switch between hating a player to loving a player, to switch between wanting klopp out to wanting klopps love child.
To the supporters far and wide above 30 our patience will be rewarded (I hope and dream)

Sorry lost the plot a bit there
Good luck eds there are some of us out here who read and use the search box, live your.

Lifelongred

{Ed001's Note - cheers Llr, though I think you are fighting a losing battle on the search box!}


1.) 12 Jul 2017 10:42:48
Great post
Not sure if it’s an age thing with the differences in how fans are, but probably too much FM/ FIFA xD
i’m 24 and i’ve never once jumped on the 'ManagerOut' or 'Owners Out' bandwagon, i’ve never dissed any signings/ potential signings although I have said "we do not need such an such"

I never really focus on other teams besides Liverpool so I do not judge any players except the ones wearing our badge. Through the window i’ll do some terrible "YouTube scouting" on players we get linked too, or have stood out to me whilst not even paying attention to them (watching random games or vs us)

Quite a lot of people probably do the same, watch 1 or 2 games of a player, then a couple 10-15 minute YouTube clips which don’t show any 'off the ball' work but they’ll all judge based on what they see.
Videos, for defenders/ midfielders, will never show a true picture of how good/ bad they really are.
And using FIFA stats is probably a lot of peoples downfalls too 😂😂.


 

 

 

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25 Jul 2017 23:22:02
Starting to wander what the age is of some of the posters on here
Hadn't most of the same sources for the last few weeks been saying Keita and vvd signed for us/ agreed personal terms etc?
If coutinho wants to leave then let him leave, yes he is ONE of our best players, but if he wants out why keep him? As long as we get good money for him.
We have players who should be able to step up and I'm sure there are plans in place for his replacement. As one of the eds said a few times his agent and himself have already spoke of his desire to play for Barca. I believe max Meyer was a replacement mentioned before.
For now it's newspaper clickbait.
Until it's announced its rubbish.
If he goes good luck thanks for some awesome entertainment and onto the next player. Players come and go, Liverpool will always be here.

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Nearly a perfect window that just add rojo

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09 Nov 2017 09:56:04
Am I reading this right? Are some supporters really blind to what firmino does for our team? He's scored 7 and been involved in a lot of our other goals with assists with his passing with dragging defenders out of position plus his work is non stop. We would miss him in the squad more than most of the team.

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24 Oct 2017 15:29:38
Defensive mistakes have cost us points. Let alone the keeper our defenders have made mistakes resulting in draws. Klopp has said the players he has wanted and gone for them alone. Breaking transfer rules and showing no respect to other clubs. I like the attacking football, but Rodgers had the same attack going forward and nothing at the back. Yes we have better players now, but again not at the back. We can't praise him for his attack whilst not blame him for the defence. He needs to sort it out b4 we are too far behind. We can still pull back our season it's not all doom and gloom, but shocking that the defence hasn't been fixed.

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24 Oct 2017 11:49:02
Personally I'd throw all of our attacking subs into defence, can't do any worse and at least we'd have more chance of putting some chances away.

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23 Aug 2017 08:26:11
So we've never played a bad game with coutinho in the team then? Never struggled to break down defensive team with him in the team?
Sorry this is getting ridiculous, pipco isn't the messiah, the world will not end if he leaves.
Player we should be worried about leaving is mane. But even then tomorrow still happens, just with a different player.
Take the money and run.

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05 Aug 2017 16:28:41
Wow frankly that is possibly the most unsupported post I've ever read.
Mediocre?
Did we not finish above arsenal and man u? For the back end of the season from Xmas on nearly play without key players?
I'm not blind and am realistic about our team, we do have a really good team which is why we need to be challenging for all honours, yes we need to strengthen in places, saying we have a great team doesn't mean we need no new players. Any supporter know we need a commanding cb.
Yes LFC have made a mess of 2 of this year's transfers, yes something needs to be done for our transfer business in the future. I didn't once say we didn't.
We have strengthened our defence and bought another pacey forward.
I don't believe coutinho is our most important player, I would be more concerned if we sold mane. Selling coutinho and buying a leader of a cb and a more reliable striker would make us a much stronger team.
This still doesn't stop us from having a great team.

Lifelongred