Liverpool banter 3

28 Apr 2024 14:01:41
Hoping for a Spurs win. Not expecting we are going to win it now. But I think it will unbearable if Arteta wins the Title. Spurs are lining up 4-2-3-1 and it’s similar to Slot formation, also Ange style seems to be similar after reading up on Slot since he seems nailed on. Not that means much different players and Slot has a plan B. But still will pay a bit more attention then would have.

{Ed025's Note - i actually want Arsenal to win mate, i dont want them cheats along the M62 winning anything..

28 Apr 2024 14:09:46
Ed025 I’m with you. But, we’ve all been here before. Idk why everyone is worked up about these results. City will do what city does and win every game.

{Ed025's Note - i just dont want cheats to prosper TJ, at least arsenal are a proper club mate..

28 Apr 2024 14:20:50
Me neither it’s just Arteta and his arrogance will be at an all time high. Arsenal are a big club just think they’ll blow up the hype if they win it. Also dislike Ben White. As for City they’ll be something in those 115. Not saying stripping titles or whatever. But enough to tarnish their reputation and maybe what they’ve won will be viewed as worthless almost even if not taken away. Maybe also Pep will think leave on a high ….

{Ed025's Note - im not big fan of Arteta and his antics at times either Kloppiche, but as a club they have great history and i would sooner see them lift the the title than one of the plastic clubs mate..

28 Apr 2024 14:24:23
Totally agree Ed025 if it’s not Liverpool I’d rather Arsenal won the league. Decent team.

{Ed025's Note - good team, good club and good history Tom, them all day over City mate..

28 Apr 2024 14:34:37
City have it won don't be worrying plus Spurs can catch us.

28 Apr 2024 14:37:49
We're not winning the title, I'd much rather see Arsenal win it over City.

28 Apr 2024 14:46:59
I’m a million miles away from being a Arteta fan. He’s gets away with all sorts every week! Gesturing for cards and leaving his technical area constantly. To the point if seen him in line with the 18y box.

That’s small minor stuff against the cheats in Sky blue. So if Arsenal do do it. Fair play. They will deserve it.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Gazza..

28 Apr 2024 14:49:23
At least Arsenal can fill there stadium unlike city!

28 Apr 2024 14:57:16
💯 Arsenal for me, great club.

28 Apr 2024 15:04:48
How will it be unbearable compared to a city win? Everyone forgets who wins it about a week later anyway, it’s only important to the winners.

28 Apr 2024 15:08:20
I can guarantee Arsenal we’re supporting Man City over Liverpool the last few years.

28 Apr 2024 15:15:01
I would prefer Arsenal to win anything over city.

However, under no circumstances do I want arteta to win anything. I can’t abide him.

It also makes piers Morgan cry and that’s a good enough reason to see Arsenal fail on its own.

28 Apr 2024 15:27:31
The celebrations against Liverpool done it for me with Arsenal. Seeing them win nothing will be brilliant.

28 Apr 2024 15:44:03
If we’re not winning it then the whole tournament ceases to exist to me.

I couldn’t care less who wins it.

28 Apr 2024 15:52:02
I want city to win purely to trigger people in football to moan about how bad cheats they are and further expose how they've ruined the game with the blatant cheating and backhanders.

I hope the get expelled from the football league and stripped of every title, and made to make there way back up the leagues without spending ridiculous amounts.

We can only dream of course they will more than likely get a 15 point deduction reduced to 10 on appeal for next season which the fa think will help silence fans.

Starting to hate them worse than the red man's lately and not because of the fans football or rivalry just the blatant cheating on a scale probably worse than juventus 20 years ago.

If arsenal win the league then all the rumours of paying refs will disappear.

28 Apr 2024 15:28:06
I’m with Ed025 on this. I don’t want to see City win another title. Plus Arsenal winning today all but guarantees us champions league football (barring them somehow catching us up on goal difference) .

28 Apr 2024 16:42:58
I remember the Arsenal fans cheering when City came back from 2-0 down at half time against Villa to win the Prem 2 years ago. What's good for the goose and all that.

28 Apr 2024 18:48:31
If City win it it will be an unprecedented four League titles in a row. Think of all the great sides of the past that never did it. Ourselves in the 70's and 80's, Ferguson's United teams etc.
And as I keep mentioning 😂, it could be seven on the bounce had it not been for us. That is mental.
Come on, Arsenal!

28 Apr 2024 19:54:05
Like most people I dislike Arsenal more than City and would want Arsenal to win it. That said, and given that I’ve never actually met either of them, I have taken more of a dislike to Arteta that Guardiola.

28 Apr 2024 20:25:09
I didn't know that about the Arsenal fans, ACB; not that it bothers me. It's flattering in a way if fans don't us to win something because it shows we still matter but why City over us?
Why do you think, mate?

28 Apr 2024 21:49:51
Everyone knows City are cheats and all of their titles are tainted. I can take that more than Arteta is better than Klopp spew that the Gunners tend to regurgitate.

28 Apr 2024 21:54:16
Ed25, people did NOT have a problem with the "cheats" winning th e title when they were competing with us cos you know, they needed them to stop LFC from "ending football" so these rival fans all became City fans.

Oh, and that includes many of these Arsenal fans who in the final game of the 21/ 22 season when City pipped us to the title, many of their fans were applauding Citiy's win at the Emirates when the news came. So for me, if Arsenal don't win it then karma is a b-word. Nobody cares about the "cheats" and what they win, IMO. They won a treble and nobody cared nor batted an eye lid. Imaging LFC winning the treble. Absolute pandemonium on the streets.

{Ed025's Note - we all have our own opinions i suppose Oli, for me Arsenal are a proper club with good history, now i might not care for their manager but that does not make them a horrible club mate, and keyboard warrior supporters are hardly reflective of the general fan base, whereas city are perennial cheats who will one day be brought to task then the crap will really hit the fan, for me they are a plastic club with a plastic fan base run by a corrupt country...i will let you guess who i would want to win the league..

28 Apr 2024 22:40:23
Oh Ed25, I guess we both agree that we don't care about City. Also, I said nothing bad about their club. They are a HUGE club, bigger than whatever City can ever be.

What Im saying about certain Arsenal fans applauding City for winning the title over us in the 21/ 22 season is NOT what I read. I what I saw with my own eyes, mate. Sorry BUT for those fans alone and their manager who's so full of himself with arrogance and misplaced hubriis, City can win the title. This part of their fan base deserve nothing after that conduct, IMO.

If Arsenal want to win the title then they should go win it the way Klopp won it for us as in, "Leave NO Doubt". Peace, mate.

29 Apr 2024 01:53:42
I think you'll find many arsenal fans didn't want city to win, and preferred klopps football to Peps.
Support the cheats if you want, don't blame us for your choice.

29 Apr 2024 19:03:55
City for me, only so they can rip that title away from them when found to be guilty cheats. And relegated to the championship. Used to like arsenal but Arteta and the horrible time wasting tactics, and more so the general biased to them shown by referees is baffling. Every corner they get they are up to something and rolling around like tarts every time really winds me up sorry. But agreed they are a big club with history unlike city, see how arsenal like it losing out on title by a point. City won’t drop points. We might even make 2nd yet.

28 Apr 2024 11:28:49
Hi all
I don’t know if this has talked about already but what was going on with the ref yesterday. He told the keeper to play on then when the keeper throws the ball out and Gakpo runs to score the ref blows up and tells the keeper to sit down brings the physio on. The keeper was literally pulling his socks up and not concentrating. This to me is a complete f**k from the ref yet again.

28 Apr 2024 12:46:53
It needs to be explained. And not by Dermot ‘Refs Do No Wrong’ Gallagher.

28 Apr 2024 13:21:10
Taylor messed up.
When he realised his mistake and went running over, I half expected him to whack the keeper on the head with a black pudding like the Ecky Thumpers on The Goodies to give him a head injury.

28 Apr 2024 13:47:52
It was all very strange. The weirdest part was ref running over to the keeper, chatting to him and then the keeper falls to the ground and the medics are coming on.

Seems like a genuine error from the ref but with about a million bungles in between that made it look at best messy, and at worst a bit dodgy.

And why did he restart with a drop ball?

28 Apr 2024 14:19:17
Gakpo should have played the ball into the net. Just put the ball into the net first then what deliberation can happen afterwards.

Just like what Abubakar did for Cameroon against Brazil at the world cup.

28 Apr 2024 17:28:04
Nigerred, even if he did nothing could be done, ref had blown so the game was dead.

Looking back I think the ref was considering time wasting and possibly booking the keeper. But he just got himself tied up and let the keeper off from what would of been a terrible mistake.

28 Apr 2024 21:57:05
Taylor screwed up and ro save himself from ridicule (too late, btw) manufactured that whole scene from thin air to protect himself from his upteeth exhibition of his relentless incompetence. I wish Gakpo had scored. Now that would have been funny even tho, Taylor would have found a way to rule it out with some bull crap action, like he did here.

28 Apr 2024 22:16:34
WYred, I disagree. Listen, this is not complicated and like you, many of us know the rules of footie esp. in this context.

Taylor asks Areola to get up after he catches the ball off the botched corner kick. Taylor does NOT give a foul so the play is NOT dead. He goes down and Taylor tells him to get up again while running and pointing to the LFC side of the pitch with his back turned and blowing his whistle meaning, the ball is ready to go back INTO play.

Then, Areola flips the ball onto the pitch so from this moment, the ball now is IN play. Under the rules at that point, the ball is can be touched by any outfield player and that includes those of the opposing team. Gakpo then attacks the ball and then from nowhere, Taylor blows the whistle to stop the game and then, starts telling Areola to go down like he's injured and he the ref, calls the WH med. team out, something he should NOT even be doing cos Areola NEVER asked for it.

The bottom line is that Taylor messed up Gakpo spared his blushes by not scoring cos had he scored, it would have been interesting to see try to wriggle out of this one.

28 Apr 2024 08:37:03
We have no chance of winning the league. City or Arsenal won't get beat for the rest of the season. We waste something like 25 minutes each game passing the ball across the back line instead of attacking. It's like the players have just stopped playing the system that put us in with the chance.

Something has gone on behind the scenes at Liverpool, another poor result. Klopp and Salah arguing in front of the cameras, the bench look like something out of Madame Tussauds, the players look like they don't want to be on the pitch. How can you be top of the league, 2 points clear and it falls apart? Has to be a reason and we the fans deserve whatever are the true answers.

28 Apr 2024 10:20:45
Hahaha, 'we the fans deserve the real answers'. Lol I’m all for fan power, but let’s just know our role here.

The answer may very well be that we lost momentum and weren’t able to get it back. But I think what you’re actually looking for is sort. So perhaps some reflection that no answer, real or not, is going to satisfy you!

28 Apr 2024 10:43:35
We will finish third. In all honesty that is where we are at. Currently the 3rd best team in the league that imo untill a few weeks ago punched above their weight. Credit needs to go to the manager and players for being in such a promising position. I had no great expectations this season which has once again given some good memories. Not far away so their are a lot more positives than they were at this stage last season.

28 Apr 2024 11:06:53
If someone said to me that only City and Arsenal would finish above us in the PL then I don't think I'd be looking too hard for answers.
Haaland, de Bruyne, Silva, Rodri, Rice, Odegaard, Saka, Saliba etc etc I already knew about.
Atalanta and United in the cups were different and harder to take. There are lots of reasons, I reckon, that we lose seven goals in those two games and don't score enough.

I think too much is being made of the Klopp and Salah disagreement. Had it not happened just after West Ham had equalised, I'd be a bit more concerned.

28 Apr 2024 11:25:15
The entitlement mentality reaches new heights.

28 Apr 2024 11:29:10
I Agree with Chrisp85.

The last month has been a bit disappointing but if you told me at the start of the season that this is where we would be now, i would have been happy.

28 Apr 2024 12:38:41
I think it’s a half glass situation.

In hindsight we would all have taken this at the start of the year. Especially with essentially a brand new midfield bedding in.

That being said there will naturally be disappointment when they had every chance to win it and dropped off a cliff. The surrender at Goodison especially hurt, to be outfought when it was still on the line will leave a scar.

But - looking forward our defensive record has been poor and our forwards have gone through a dip. And yet we have got “this” close. Give Arne some time to put his own style on and who knows what can happen.

28 Apr 2024 14:27:45
I think we’ve flattered to deceive a fair bit of the season. Defensively we’ve been shambolic and half the time the attackers have dug us out of numerous holes. It needs addressing by Slot.

3rd is not bad and CL qualification will see us attract players. I think there has been tiredness and the Man U FA cup loss is haunting us. I think that’s where the wheels fell off. The Everton game was a disgrace and the worst we’ve played under Klopp. I’m at a point where we need to thank Klopp for everything and move onto a new era.

28 Apr 2024 21:59:49
“We the fans deserve the real answers”. Bro, you ain't that special, mate. Maybe nobody has ever told you this BUT that's the truth.

Wow, some people need to get off their high horses, sit on the floor and tone down the misplaced pride and wretched self entitlement. Embarrassing, as usual.

28 Apr 2024 22:16:02
well faithinworks yes we do have entitlement fans have followed the reds home and away costing a lot of money and to see what has happened over the last several weeks that, s why we have spirit of Shankly on board with LFC and if your happy that we are going to finish third then that up to you first is everything second is nowhere as Shankly once said so what does third mean Nothing
so unlike you I am gutted to see a Liverpool team collapse like it has also the manager having a spat with a player in front of millions of viewers so yes we should have the club give an account of why it has gone so badly when it was in our hands or YNWA means nothing.

28 Apr 2024 08:36:14
Apparently Geertruida was in the stands yesterday.
Maybe just fancied watching a premier league match but seems abit of a coincidence.
Any thoughts on it Ed's?

28 Apr 2024 15:46:02
We must have put him right off 😁.

28 Apr 2024 16:30:03
Geertruida is a right back. We have Alexander-Arnold, Bradley, Ramsay and Gomez (mostly subbing) for that position. I can't speak for the new incoming head coach, but it would seem far fetched that the club were looking for players for that position.

{Ed001's Note - he is also a central defender and defensive midfielder ArAy.}

28 Apr 2024 18:27:57
I didn't know that Ed001. Thanks for the clarification. 👍🏼.

{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

28 Apr 2024 22:18:14
Ah, now you're cooking Ed 01. Someone we should keep an eye on even tho, I read online that we are looking at him.

28 Apr 2024 07:26:28
It's very sad how some of our fans are turning on Klopp at the moment. How can it be so easily forgotten where we where when he came in and what he has achieved with and for us. If it wasn't for the sports washing team in Manchester he would of achieved a lot more woth us too. We've had so many amazing memories to look back on and achieved some incredible things. Even this season we should have been nowhere near a title if we're being honest with the number of injuries but due to a few bad games all the good things are forgotten by some. He isn't perfect but who is? He was perfect for our club in my eyes with his passion and personality. I for one will look back on Klopps reign as being an incredible journey and I can't thank the man enough for the memories he gave me. YNWA Klopp.

28 Apr 2024 07:40:50
Post of the day.

28 Apr 2024 08:03:21
"fans"

28 Apr 2024 08:16:44
Sadly, people have short memories.

28 Apr 2024 09:48:23
Agree, at the beginning of this season I would have taken where we are now gladly, but our expectations were built up by the performance up to now.

28 Apr 2024 09:59:18
It's funny that some of are them now saying he should have gone two years ago! They weren't saying that two years ago or even less than a month ago when we were top of the League.
The bloke helps put us in a position were winning League title and another two trophies is in our hands with less than two months of the season left but they knock him down when it doesn't happen.
Would we have been in that position had Klopp been let go two years ago?
I'd love to know which manager would have replaced him and made us at least League champions.

28 Apr 2024 10:25:33
Hit the nail on the head there Rigsby

Where were all these clowns 2 months ago?

Klopp deserves more respect from some of these posters.

28 Apr 2024 10:27:41
This seaaon we were puching above by getting late goals but it was clear the midfield was very thin. As soon as the forwards forgot their shooting boots, the results were normal.

This might be not popular opinion here the heavy metal style is passe. It cannot be sustained and had run its course.

The change to posession style was evolution with us getting to challenge 4 titles last time and again this season. only to loose out because of not taking chances.

I am not supporting inverted right back role at all but this thinking of going back to heavy metal style is not going to gurantee titles.

We should take it both wins ans losses and give proper send off to Klopp by appreciating the good times and not getting bitter because of these last 6 or 7 games.

28 Apr 2024 10:33:22
This is why the pramgamtists here so eagerly call out the “fans” who spend all their time criticizing the team and players when we don’t win yet sit silently when we are winning.

Because at the end of the day, you’re not actually supporting the club. You’re supporting winning trophies and that’s it.

28 Apr 2024 10:39:20
Doesn't matter if people think we've over achieved this season. we we're top of the league couple of weeks ago, in the FA and europa cup n suddenly fell apart. no one knows why, can't go from playing great to utter shte n not be questioned .

28 Apr 2024 11:02:21
I read a lot about tactical flaws here but I have a sincere question as I don't know much about football. Was it Klopps tactics that stopped our attackers from putting away the tons of chances we created as well? I mean, inverted full back or not, we created lots of chances which we never scored and that is why we are where we are today. I be the players the most personally.

28 Apr 2024 11:39:58
Questions should be asked, Stromsgodset. Some fans are rewriting history though. I don't think we've been playing great, regularly, this season though. Results were great despite the way we played, I would say.
I do agree that results and performances have dipped significantly in the past few weeks but questioning that is fine. What I find strange is fans giving the answers to those problems after the events. The manager, his assistant, a book, the kids etc. are emotionally bandied about without any real thought.

28 Apr 2024 13:00:44
Theres no helping some people. Let them have their tantrums and ridiculous opinions.
Klopp has been great for Liverpool football club and I have thoroughly enjoyed the last 9 years.
Thats what its about right? Sure there has been some disappointments during that time but they only rank as disappointing when compared to the great moments we’ve had alongside them.

{Ed025's Note - im with you Semi..

28 Apr 2024 13:33:13
Klopp always said it was about the journey …. The moments both high and low are what should be remembered …. All in the context of a dodgy set of officials and a club winning by virtue of financial doping.

28 Apr 2024 14:20:46
Rigsby
Some posters can’t formulate their own opinions.
Be it Klopp should have left 2 years ago
Ljinders should be the next manager when Klopp leaves
Or Jones is better than Foden 😂😂.

28 Apr 2024 14:29:41
Klopp has been awesome but has lost his way a bit with the whole inverted full back nonsense, and we didn’t transition the midfield quickly enough. 8 trophies in 9 years is a great return when you consider we are up against state sponsored teams. We’ve also been unlucky at crucial times with injuries and lost
Momentum.

28 Apr 2024 15:22:30
True Rigsby, we weren't playing great but results is what mattered after last season, I was hoping rather than expecting that we would qualify for champs league. n im happy with that. just we were sooo close to competing this year for the title . we as fans try n work out what's happening so we throw all scenarios out. some bizarre.

28 Apr 2024 16:47:19
Irish, you forgot "Alisson should be sold and Kelleher should be starting" and "Alexander Arnold should be sold to Real Madrid" (so we could get those big bucks and buy some nice new shiny toys) . 😂.

28 Apr 2024 19:00:46
The Alisson one is one of my favourites, ArAy. That and Lijnders decides to write a book when he didn't decide to write a book.

28 Apr 2024 19:59:47
@Faith, is a ‘pramgamtist’ a pragmatist who sits in a pram? 😉.

27 Apr 2024 23:13:44
Hi all, a lot being publicised about a certain Bruno guimaraes having a £100m release clause in his contract, what would people think of spending some of that Salah money on sorting our midfield? Absolute class player and would play that double pivot position brilliantly! Does beg the question why we were bidding over £100m for Caicedo when Bruno is available at that price! Wouldn’t mind stealing Isaak from them either the guy is absolutely clinical and calmness personified in front of goal.

28 Apr 2024 01:41:36
Would take both in a heart beat, Twitter seems to think Edwards wants isak but realistically I can't see us getting either unless Newcastle needs to sell for ffp.

Pretty sure they won't need to though, oil money talks.

{Ed001's Note - why is Edwards involved? Recruitment is not his job is it?}

28 Apr 2024 01:53:22
Some of that Salah money? How much are we getting?
Seriously though, I don't know if Salah will be sold or not but I do rate Guimaraes highly. It's just a feeling but I don't think he'd fancy us. I can see him going to City or a big club on the continent but I'm not sure who could afford him there.
I would take him, definitely.

28 Apr 2024 02:35:24
Bruno didn’t move last summer.

28 Apr 2024 10:08:50
Just the usual drivel on twitter ed.

28 Apr 2024 10:27:47
Yeah the idea that Edwards ‘isn’t happy’ with signings we’ve made and is going to chuck Nunez out for Isak, despite that not being his remit, is very funny to me.

28 Apr 2024 14:27:17
I seem to remeher reading that Newcastle might well have to sell one of their bigger players this season.

28 Apr 2024 15:15:47
Apparently that clause expires this summer or next, but either way, Newcastle would want a hefty fee.
I think the big fee for Salah has failed, we'd be lucky if we get £70m. I still think we should have sold last year personally.
Amorin, pretty sure Newcastle do need to balance the books, they can't do what city did those years ago and just splash the cash anymore, needs to be a gradual thing. unless you get some convenient sponsorship deals that are suspiciously greater in value than any other, more successful club!

28 Apr 2024 22:19:51
What Salah money are we talking about?

27 Apr 2024 22:55:07
With slot being our new manager, do you think sepp van den berg will be given a chance for first team place. Playing very well in bundesliga too by all accounts. Also, is there any top quality players in Dutch league likely to join us. Often a manager from a certain league brings in a player or two from that league too.
What was the turning point for us this season. For me, it was the game at home v Prague. Ever since then, the team just didn't seem the same for some reason.

28 Apr 2024 01:40:24
Doubt it mate I think Mainz have a optional future fee clause so I think he will go there.

28 Apr 2024 02:17:08
If I had to pick one turning point it would be the draw against United.
It seemed worse than a draw because we murdered them but relinquished our control of the title race. We hadn't been playing well for a while in games but still mostly winning them. That one we dominated for large parts and ended up salvaging a draw but it didn't feel that way.
Not only that but we lost the next two games after that both at home.
Maybe that's just coincidence and a bad run was inevitable because of how we were performing though.

I noticed a change in mood of Liverpool fans, as well. After we beat Brighton and City and Arsenal drew, confidence soared. I don't think the draw would have been as damaging for morale had we'd played someone else. We should have won by at least three goals.
Anyway, it was the game before we lost back to back matches and I can't remember the last time that happened before then.

28 Apr 2024 10:01:40
We lost games because of poor defending, Klopps persistence with questionable tactics, and above all the forwards not hitting the back of the net. Get the latter resolved and the first two issues become irrelevant.

28 Apr 2024 10:41:26
A clean sheet means you have to hit the back of the net less often.
It might be an age thing but give me a clinical and professional 2-0 win over a 5-4 one anyday 😂.

28 Apr 2024 14:33:04
Defending has been a big issue for us this season, and it’s an area that badly needs addressing. Hopefully Slot will. We need to spend big on a new CB and I’d demote Konate to 3rd choice with 4th choice Gomez/ Quansah. The latter I think will become extremely good with experience. We need to get to Arsenal levels of defensive consistency.

Up front I would sell Salah and Nunez, and buy quality with the money. I’d be buying a DM also, as I don’t think Endo is the long term answer. Adjust tactics by Slot will get the best out of Szobo.

28 Apr 2024 15:20:44
Personally, I think the turning point has been a gradual thing, set off by losing the league title to City by a single point despite having a record amount of points. The manager and players invested so much physically and mentally, and to be beaten to the title despite such an effort must have dealt a severe blow psychologically. How do you process that? Any other year, it would have easily won the title, but to lose out to a team with financial charges ha hing over them must be very hard to take.