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14 Oct 2017 14:24:50
Nothing wrong with our performance today, just lacked that finishing touch once again. 'Top of the league your having a laugh' give tony pulis 200m to spend and he beats us today, the Jose mourinho hype is ridiculous!

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{Ed025's Note - i agree midge..

14 Oct 2017 14:51:01
Mourinho had a plan and he got what he wanted. A point. We failed yet again to get the points we wanted. That's why they will finish ahead of us.

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14 Oct 2017 15:24:34
I'm happy with that point to be honest. That'll do me, I thought it'd be a draw, never expected anything more or anything less.

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14 Oct 2017 15:55:19
Our defence comes in for a lot of stick so a big "Well Done" for the clean sheet today, against the league leaders. Should have nicked it but hey, we didn't lose.

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14 Oct 2017 16:02:48
Give it a rest Roy. none of us expected anything more before kick off. Second Top scorers in the league and they play like that against there biggest rivals, not convinced. City for the title imo.

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14 Oct 2017 16:21:49
Please explain to me why a manager who is trying to get past a parked bus doesn't add attackers instead of swapping them? Why not add Sturridge instead of replacing him with Salah or Coutinho? Why stick with a 433 and not add more forwards?

Alex Ferguson would have added attackers, not replaced them man for man. it's kind of toothless when you needed the win. I'd have been very disappointed with my manager, just like I'm disappointed with my manager's tactics. But you were home and you trail us by 7 points.

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14 Oct 2017 16:23:23
Klopp and the team expected 3 points before the game Midge. and considering how bad they were in every department except the goal keeper we should've been more clinical and finished them off. Simple if we want to be considered top 4, we need to be taking our chances whoever the opposition is . And by the way I am a liverpool fan, don't give a damn which manchester club wins it, I just want my club to do better .

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14 Oct 2017 16:30:39
As a United fan, the team who parked the bus, are you seriously asking why klopp didn't add more strikers when for the bulk of the game yours didn't leave your half? I'm assuming your profile picture is a selfie because mate you're goosed if you are using that excuse, didn't realise united saw themselves on par with Burnley et al. I know a few united fans, decent guys but you're something else fella! I can't tell if you're a troll or just low on the IQ chart.

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14 Oct 2017 16:31:41
I just feel we were there for the taking and offered little in attack, so why not add attackers instead of swapping them? I can remember when SAF would have four strikers on near the end of a game when we needed the win. Just think Klopp should have went for it more. Especially considering our attack were struggling and we weren't committing anyone forward. I'd be disappointed as a Liverpool fan. I don't see why it matters about not conceding or having so much possession, that was inevitable by the way we set up. I think you guys missed a trick.

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14 Oct 2017 16:38:57
Having too many strikers crowds the box and harder to find a gap. Also makes us more vulnerable to counter. Not to mention offers up the possibility of losing the battle in the middle of the field where we're dominating and offers less players to create the chances for the strikers. So like for like is usually for fresh legs.

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{Ed025's Note - too many strikers but not one can hit a bulls arse with a banjo..

14 Oct 2017 16:44:44
JBLP, I'm very disappointed Jose parked the bus as I have clearly stated above. However if I was a Liverpool fan I'd question why Klopp didn't take advantage of the situation by adding more attackers to the attack. There's only one manager smiling right now mate and it's certainly not Klopp.

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14 Oct 2017 16:51:05
aoe - I mean against past opposition too, this season Klopp has replaced man for man instead of pushing for that equaliser or winner by adding attackers for the last 15 minutes.

I don't think there was much danger of a counter today from us towards the end. I would have chucked extra attackers on. Add Sturridge to Countinho and Salah. Sacrifice Can or Henderson.

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14 Oct 2017 16:56:13
sydney's profile pic is a selfie LOL.

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14 Oct 2017 17:03:35
I agree with you Roy. after watching the game I'm disappointed to not take three points. But honestly before the game you were expecting anything more than a draw? I don't think so.

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14 Oct 2017 17:39:57
Honestly Midge, I did expect 3 points because we are at home 7 points behind and their striker have bad record against us . did you not expect them to park the bus? I did a lot of us did, Klopp would've expect it as well . Never mind, on to mid week now and we should be aiming for 3 points .

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14 Oct 2017 17:55:03
we were the better team, utd wanted a point by the looks of things, same old story if we were a bit more ruthless and clinical upfront might have walked away with the full 3 points. We have been poor up top for a while.

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14 Oct 2017 19:23:12
Sydney, why change a formation/ system that's penned in the league leaders, getting fresh legs, slightly different skill sets up front could, should of worked, weakening the mid to add more bodies up front could of cost us the match I think it was the right call today.

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14 Oct 2017 19:27:33
Fair enough Sydney. To be honest I was actually answering as a general rule to your question of supstitutions. Totally agree ed25. As I do with most of your hilarious posts. That said, de gea's save was phenomenal. (Reason he's my no 1 in galactic team) Any other keeper concedes today. We score- match changes. As it is, klopp believed what we were doing was working so he simply injected fresh legs where he could in the belief that we'd break them down. Didn't happen but that's mourinho tactics for you. Ugly but terribly effective.

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14 Oct 2017 19:40:23
You lot really need to read what sydney is saying coz he is bang wright we should of went for the kill.

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14 Oct 2017 20:03:30
But you didn't "Pen us in", we had no interest in attacking your goal. We parked the bus. So sacrifice a midfielder and ADD Sturridge to Coutinho and Salah in place of Can or Henderson. We only committed Lukaku and Rashford forward in the 2nd half. Just my opinion, but considering Liverpool cannot deal with parked buses, it's klopp's job to come up with solutions. The obvious one in my opinion is add more attackers. What did you have to lose? One point or three? Anyway, it's just my thoughts on where I believe Klopp is going wrong. Because many will play this way against you this season and unless Coutinho scores a 40 yard screamer every week, you need a solution.

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{Ed025's Note - fair point sydney..

14 Oct 2017 21:20:05
Sydney I think you are right, but it's not like we didn't have enough chances to win the game. On another day we score one or two, I don't think it that's big a deal really. Maybe in a month when our fortunes are better we take them chances! Like I said the creativity is there, just at this time the chances aren't being converted.

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14 Oct 2017 22:12:56
Midge, I guess it is early days just 8 games in, but how long do you wait before you make changes. United went a whole season struggling to convert chances last season, Liverpool cannot afford a 5th place finish or below. Be very hard attracting decent players with Coutinho money without the pull of CL football.

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15 Oct 2017 08:54:42
Midge3, I cannot believe Mourinho's reasoning for not getting 3 points! He says that because Klopp did not change the midfield in the match it didn't give them an opportunity to attack. Wow i mean how ridiculous is that! You're absolutely right in saying that he is like Pulis with money!

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15 Oct 2017 08:59:22
Sydney, so we place more attackers into a crowded box and then they start geting into each other's way and then we get caught out and concede on the counter. What would you say? You would be the one saying that Klopp should have just kept the point and ove on to the next game. Pls, the hindsight stuff is pointless as it adds nothing to the debate.

Klopp was smart enough to know that in big games, if you can't win the game, you should not lose it. That is what Klopp did and tho he wanted to win and on another day, we do, you hold on to the point and move on.

Utd were the fav's today and frankly, they choked and just played a Tony Pulis and moved on. That is Mou's choice BUT he should not be peeved when he is slated for playing stoneage footie. The only improvement I see from this game in comparison to last season's game is that we created more chances BUT again, did not take them. On to Spurs.

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14 Oct 2017 14:22:20
I know Jose would bottle it and come for a draw.

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{Ed025's Note - typical jose im afraid superred...effective but boring..

14 Oct 2017 14:25:46
Palace and Burnley both gave us a better go. United are miles away from city. Lukakau was as poor as expected too. Hopefully at least the ridiculous United hype can settle down.

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14 Oct 2017 14:39:22
True ed025, I'm glad we didn't lose. I hate losing to utd more than I love beating utd. Does that even make sense? I just can't handle losing to them. These games are going to get a reputation for being boring rather than explosive.

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{Ed025's Note - while jose is at utd they will mate..

14 Oct 2017 15:57:53
Lukaku is always poor against us. Lovren seems to be able to shut him down.

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{Ed025's Note - lukaku is a flat track bully mate..ok against the lesser sides..

14 Oct 2017 22:30:27
Jose is Tony Pulis with loads of money. End of story.

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{Ed025's Note - that is a terrible slight on tony pulis bingo..

15 Oct 2017 08:13:03
My bad, Ed25.

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14 Oct 2017 14:22:17
93 minutes of liverpool playing against themselves. Manu never looked like scoring, it was only a matter of not making a mistake. But our attack is so wasteful. I have to wonder if the result would have been any different if manu stayed home?

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14 Oct 2017 22:32:01
Lfcohio, Mou is simply not interested in playing against us or Klopp at Anfield. Is he traumatized about Klopp owning him in the head to head or he is just happy to do a Tony Pulis and move on? I don't know BUT I guess this is the new normal.

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14 Oct 2017 14:15:46
Yet more evidence that we are missing a striker.

I know this is an unpopular view on here but it's blindingly obvious. We are not clinical, we lack players with the correct movement in the opposition box and the natural ability to put the ball in the net.

Same performance as we have had for weeks and weeks. Klopp doesn't have the answers. His only response seems to be to chuck on strikers at the 80th minute every week and hope for something.

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14 Oct 2017 14:25:13
I completely agree.

If we had a natural goal scorer like Kane we win that football match and many other games previously this season.

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14 Oct 2017 14:34:25
Completely disagree. Our players know how to put the ball in the net (other than Salah maybe; ball could be set on the goal line and he'd bend it out for a corner) . I have to wonder if our attack producing so many chances makes our players less clinical; when in front of goal they don't make the most of chances cause they know there'll always be another chance. I don't know how else to explain players being so wasteful.

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14 Oct 2017 14:57:51
I agree United were poor and there for the taking but that's 1 win in 9 games now. this is just my opinion tactically i think klopp is brain dead he's got his system and won't change it while mane is out drop courtinho back leave 1 of the CM out and play sturridge or solanke. were the home team and need a win yet we only make subs in the73rd minute are we going to say every week--oh only if we had taken our chances--it weres thin after a while.

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14 Oct 2017 18:31:00
Come on De Gea pulled off a world class save, not many keepers would have saved that.

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{Ed025's Note - only one though ron, you were against a side who had no will to win yet achieved very little in the final 3rd mate..

14 Oct 2017 19:26:07
Point is 25, it wasn't lack of a striker that stifled us. It was a tactical kop out by Jose and a world class keeper got him the draw he didn't deserve.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree that it was awful to watch because of uniteds tactics ron, but to be honest you need to create more and certainly be more clinical in front of goal, a decent striker would certainly help because bar for one very good save de gea had a picnic, your midfield trio move the ball too slowly for me as well, too much sideways stuff and not enough vigor i feel can blame jose as much as you want but its up to liverpool to find a way..

14 Oct 2017 19:37:49
I agree with Ron here 25. If that had of went in the UTD would have came at us instead of sitting back and this would have created space for our players. I'm not saying we would have went on to win but we would of had more chances.

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{Ed025's Note - but it never so you didn,t dom, the world is full of wudda cudda shudda scenario,s mate but in the end liverpool were just not good enough to break down a resolute if exceedingly boring typical jose team..

14 Oct 2017 20:42:08
Ron we can't continue to blame opposition players and managers every week. Liverpool have a problem in front of goal. It's obvious.

Like 25 days De Gea make a world class save but really it's all he had to do all game. Our shooting is wayward and our midfield play is slow.

We need a forward that can score goals and we need a midfielder that is different to the 3 we have now who are all very similar.

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{Ed025's Note - im with you all the way navy..

14 Oct 2017 14:14:49
has 75 minutes become the new 60 minutes or something?

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14 Oct 2017 14:12:03
So the final three playing staff we are taking to the Intergalactic cup are three strikers. I will offer up Harry Kane who continues to do well, Sergio Aguero who offers something different and Paulo Dybala who is far more adaptable than either of the others - so offers options.

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14 Oct 2017 14:49:41
With Messi and Ronaldo in the team, I think scoring won't be a problem. The striker the team needs IMO is one that will work hard and create options for those two.
I'll go with Benzema, who I think is one of the most intelligent strikers in the world. He has the ability to adapt to whoever he plays with and that's why he's still with R. Madrid
Secondly is our own Bobby Firmino. How many strikers have the ability to press and create spaces/ chances for others to exploit. A fantastic player.
Thirdly is Harry Kane. Good off-the-ball movement, good finishing.

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{Ed025's Note - bobby is a good player but never a striker mate, he pussy foots about too much and wears bananas instead of boots..

14 Oct 2017 14:52:41
Suarez, Lewandowski and Kane.

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14 Oct 2017 15:20:33
Lewandowski, Suarez, Aguero.

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14 Oct 2017 15:52:41
Dybala, Aguero and Suarez.

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14 Oct 2017 14:32:23
Can't believe u missed out Suarez Ed002. Would have to be Suarez, Lewandowski and Dybala for me.

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14 Oct 2017 16:50:48
Lewandowski, Gabriel jesus and Suarez.

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14 Oct 2017 17:01:03
Ed025, I know most favour out and out strikers ala Lewandoski, Kane etc.
For me though, with Messi and CR7 as part of this team, two players that won't track back, I want strikers that would sacrifice cos I don't want 3 players up front not tracking back.
Would've gone for Dybala, but he won't work well with Messi. Suarez and Lewandoski would've to sacrifice part of what makes them good to accomodate CR7 and Messi.
Benzema and Bobby though can play their normal game and the team would still be balanced.
So, for me. Bobby and Benzema. I added Kane as the 3rd cos I'm impressed with his finishing.
And I know there are 23 players and different persons can play, but I'm assuming Messi and CR7 will ALWAYS play, so get the strikers that fit.

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{Ed025's Note - benzema is a whole lot of trouble realtofel, i pesonally would not touch him with a barge pole mate, even though he is a very talented player..

14 Oct 2017 12:29:40
Liverpool at 33/ 1 to win the title.

Win this game and next 2 and that all changes.

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14 Oct 2017 13:34:35
Win the next 25 and we'd be favourites.

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14 Oct 2017 18:32:08
1 win in 8, I think the bookies know what they're doing.

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14 Oct 2017 11:55:02
Is Robertson a figment of our imaginations? Does he even exsist?

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14 Oct 2017 11:34:17
Seriously, what's happening with Robertson?

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14 Oct 2017 11:39:34
I agree why buy him if your not going to play him. and sticking with 3 out of form players in CM is baffling i would of dropped coutinho back and played solanke in place of wijnaldum.

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14 Oct 2017 11:41:32
He joins Ox, Solanke, Klavan and Karius who have all been bought in the last 15 months and are either not good enough to get into the starting 11 or the squad. And to think some fans say the last window was a success or there is nothing better out there to buy.

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14 Oct 2017 11:46:40
Very odd as in the few games he has played he done really well and could have had 4 assist alone in palace game had any of our forwards gambled with brilliant crosses he put in. Moreno has improved but I still think it's a myth he's good going forward.

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14 Oct 2017 11:49:18
Its ridiculous to be honest, why even buy Oxlade? I know Ed02 always says they are all Klopp signings but is that right? as Robertson, Solanke AND Oxlade don't seem like players Klopp is busting a gut to get in the side, Im starting to question his decision making as much as I love the guy for his enthusiasm.
I don't know but you would have definitely thought Oxlade would replace Mane today especially at home when we could have had Couthino still in midfield and had some creativity there instead of the sideways passing trio.
Lets hope it all works out as this fixture is massive!

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14 Oct 2017 12:11:38
Ox creative? I guess if you're of the opinion that toddler refrigerator art is on the level of picaso or slvador dalhi then sure the ox is creative.

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{Ed025's Note - i like that ohio..

14 Oct 2017 12:18:10
Karius was the second best keeper in the bundesliga when we bought him but a broken hand, no preseason, new league, more expectations from fans made him prone to mistakes.
Klavan was a good defender in the bundesliga and was bought to be a back up. He had some good and some bad games.
Ox came to play in the middfield and wide forward positions. It's early to judge him, he hasn't had a preseason with us and his first game was when we were one man down and lost 5-0 against city. Needs time.
Solanke is third choice striker with luck he could have won us some games. He is making impact when brought in. He is young enough and with time he can be a very good striker a la lewandowski.

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{Ed025's Note - you should be a PR guru vakpa, karius and klavan have been awful up to now though karius has scope to improve, the ox is a seasoned premier league player who is just not very good and to compare solanke with lewandowski is like comparing carlton palmer with messi mate...take off the red specs and have another go..

14 Oct 2017 18:37:31
"new league" is the only relevant thing in that post to Karius's problems.
He was in City's reserves in the past though.

Karius could be the greatest ever keeper in Germany, but that's totally irrelevant to the premier league because of the physicality and style of play in the premier league.

If you're going to sign a decent keeper for your first team in the premier league, the VERY first thing you look for is someone dominant in the air.
Watch any match of Karius in Germany and rarely is he challenged in the air, but when he is he flaps like a drunken beach volleyball player.

Sorry, he was a poor signing.

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14 Oct 2017 11:16:27
What does everyone believe we need to take over this next 7 days. Utd, Maribor and Spurs. Maribor is a must win for me, anything but 3 points and it's a disaster. If Klopp and the fans still believe we are title contenders then 6 points is a must (due to previous results), if we are solely challenging to get top 4 then 4 points from the 2 league games is a minimum. So going off that basis a minimum of 7 points or max of 9 this week for me. However realistically we could end up with just 3 or less.

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{Ed025's Note - 7 would be good jayden and i believe thats what you will get mate..

14 Oct 2017 11:41:33
9 points no problem πŸ˜€πŸ‘πŸΌ.

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14 Oct 2017 12:32:14
I'll take a draw against United.

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