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12 Oct 2018 08:24:56
Dear ed001

May I ask you to have a player profile on Harry Kewell, Luis Garcia, Sami Hyypia and if you don't mind, Gary McAllister

Would really love to see your opinion on these legendary players, though Harry Kewell had an unlucky career with us.

Thanks for your time.

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{Ed001's Note - added them to the list for you mate.}

12 Oct 2018 20:15:28
Ray clemence please Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - added.}

18 Oct 2018 18:19:26
thanks ed001
looking forward to that!

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{Ed001's Note - don't hold your breath though mate. Still got a fair few to get through!}

Review Of The Day 12th October 2018

12 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th October 2018

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12 Oct 2018 08:42:29
Morning Ed, thank you mate, have a good day.

RIP Ellis. I didn't realise he was that old!

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12 Oct 2018 10:22:44
Cheers for that ed mate, it’s very much appreciated, have a great day.

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12 Oct 2018 10:37:09
Thanks Ed. Have a great day.

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{Ed001's Note - take care mate.}

12 Oct 2018 20:47:40
I saw Doug Ellis at the players bar at Wimbledon once. He was a bigger man than he looked on TV.

That same day, I spoke to the late Ugo Ehiogu and - I have to say - he was a genuinely lovely guy. He'd missed the game after his eye injury. Spoke to him for a good 10 minutes and he seemed really happy to just chat with the fans.

RIP Doug (and Ugo)

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12 Oct 2018 06:40:30
On a random note. Joe Gomez! What a player he is becoming for us! Everything we like in a defender including pace! And still only 21! Right now he is first pick for England as well. He even has the exotic surname that Liverpool fans crave.

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12 Oct 2018 09:10:04
"Exotic" surname? Look around, and smell the roses. There are more Liverpool fans with "exotic" surnames than there are with "normal" surnames (whatever "normal" means) .

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12 Oct 2018 11:32:06
I think you’ve completely misread his meaning there mate. There’s no malice there.

He’s talking about the old argument that English players get less hype from English fans than foreign ones do. That’s all.

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12 Oct 2018 13:27:50
It’s a weird dichotomy where English players are underrated but also incredibly overrated by fans and commentators alike. Personally I find the latter to be true more then the former. Though I think the former does apply to a lot of young talented English managers, which is unfair.

Regardless Gomez is a great talent. Is it me or does he just seem faster this year? Great to see.

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12 Oct 2018 14:51:57
I wasn't really try to stir up anything with my response. I just got the sense that it was harking back to the old days where basically only fans in the UK were fans of Liverpool, and anything else was extra or "exotic". It's a global game now and all clubs aspire to a global following. Bceause that's where the money is and where survival/ success is. Just going by TV viewership, there are more PL watching fans in Europe than there are in the UK. And for the Rest of the World, there are more PL watching fans than there are for the UK and Europe combined. So everything has changed. The same can safely said for Liverpool. So why should anyone who is not from Liverpool or the UK, whether it is a manager, a player or a fan be labelled as exotic? Just look at ManU! Their years "on the perch" didn't happen by luck or coincidence. It was a corporate strategy to expand their following throughout the World, which in turn provided considerable financial gains, which in turn allowed them to buy pretty much anyone they wanted to buy at whatever price. Which in turn resulted in all those titles. I never open the ManU page, but the rest of you will have to tell me if any of their fans call their managers, players or fans as "exotic".

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12 Oct 2018 18:58:15
Again ArAy, you’ve misread the whole situation, trust me.

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12 Oct 2018 20:21:01
Spot on 87red!

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12 Oct 2018 21:04:16
Okay, in that case, my apologies. 🙏.

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13 Oct 2018 08:27:24
No worries ArAy. Keep well.

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09 Oct 2018 20:23:43
Hi fellow reds and Ed's and 'Hope all is well.

There has been a lot of debate about how we are playing right now which I agree, is not at optimum levels BUT what continues to do my head in is the seeming arrogance of many in the fan base who are either arrogant (thinking we should be beating any and ever team) or are just plain negative (focusing on what is going on instead of being thankful for the big things going right for us) .

Anyone read or listen to Pep's comments after the game? He has WAY more respect for Klopp and our club than some of these "fans" do. I mean, this is a guy who has said that he won't change his way of playing in the PL ever YET Klopp is the only one he would change his tactics for and be more conservative. What changed? It's cos Klopp and those players have earned that respect. As for Klopp, Pep made it clear in their documentary on Amazon, that Klopp permanently leaves in his head. The guy was worried about us during and Everton game (Yeah, ed25. That's how much Pep thinks about your lot, lol), going mental in the changing room. Now that is BOSS.

Also, I just learnt that this is not the first time Pep has changed his whole system to contain Klopp. He did it at Bayern as well. Oh and by the way, Klopp has earned the respect of not just Pep, but of Sarri and Poch (who has only beaten Klopp once in NINE games) . These guys know what's going on. Isn't it about time more of our fans start doing the same and appreciating how well we have done even so far this season EVEN THO, more improvement is needed? Why always focus on the things that are not going right instead of the things that are working.

This reminded me of the Roma game at Anfield. Instead of focusing on the 5 we scored, many fans were throwing a tantrum cos we conceded two goals. Really? That'is all you got to moan about? We have just come thru a cruel run of games BUT cos we lost a game vs Napoli in the last minute and a Chelsea Cup game where we were the better team, the baby is out with the bath water for some, already. Did people really think Chelsea and Napoli could not beat us? where did the self-entitlement come from? People talk about last season and how good we were BUT fail to recognize that we only started our good run in late October when we pummeled Maribor 7-0 away from home and got better as the season progressed esp. from Jan.

So based on that, we are already miles ahead of where we were last season where we were crap defensively and we did not even have a front 3 as Salah was not as good and our defence was a sieve with a clown as a GK. Do people want to go back to that? I definitely don't. What I'm trying to say here is that we are in a position that even Klopp himself said he would pay serious dough for us to get to with the schedule we had. Why can't we just be happy for that while at the same time, hoping that our boys will get going again in a dynamic way or is that too much to ask? Multiple things can be correct at the same time and that is my main point here. Sorry for the long post, Ed's.

YNWA!

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11 Oct 2018 22:41:36
Top post BRover.

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11 Oct 2018 22:45:45
Well this can't be more correct. Some fans, if they are even real ones, will always find something to moan abaout. I even belive if we win the title by goal difference there will be moaners "why we didn't win more so we can be winners by pints" . Sadly this is the world we live now, most of the people look at 4the others and what they achive and can't be happy for themself and what they can achive is the same with football sadly.

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11 Oct 2018 23:15:52
Martolfc if we win by goal difference I’d be over the moon. Losing by goal difference on the other hand would be too much to take. We’ve been close maybe twice in the last 20 years. Once under Rafa and heartbreakingly close under Rodgers. If goal difference decides it I hope it favours us cause coming that close and getting nothing would destroy me: I’d definitely prefer winning on points. The pints will flow later.

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11 Oct 2018 23:25:52
Thanks BRover, great post.

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11 Oct 2018 23:51:04
How about we just ignore the negative comments? If people don't bite, the bait goes off after a while. I'm not talking about well thought out posts that reflect someone's valid points, I'm talking about the one or two lines that people throw out there just to wind people up.

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12 Oct 2018 00:58:24
Nice one Brover, great post that mate, keep them coming.

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12 Oct 2018 01:05:42
Same for me Scootinio! Just gave an example with the goal difference tho. And yeah I prefer on points aswell xaxa.

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12 Oct 2018 03:38:02
EXACTLY how I have been feeling about our beloved Reds! Its ok to be negative occasionally but the posters that do my head in ( Harry, Negativeredwalter etc) are constantly negative and just want their opinion heard. If I hear Harry bang on about our midfield one more time I am going to hammer my testicles flat. Great post Brover!

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12 Oct 2018 06:37:39
Nice post BRover. All hail King Klopp! (Can we win some Titles and Cups now, please. Just to make it all official? 😉)

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12 Oct 2018 08:57:14
Its a good point, if you can't enjoy the start we've made with added excitement for the coming months then you shouldn't call yourself a fan, we look a top side and have the manager to match, its exciting times at anfield. burkey has a good point too in that 'fans' that can't see any optimism around our team probably just fish for bites and enjoy winding people up, i enjoy kramers digs at nonesence posts but if you ignore them they go away eventually or at least hold no value. Football changes every few week of the season and nobody knows what things will look like at Christmas but so far so good, let's see how far the lads can go whilst being supportive, win or lose.

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12 Oct 2018 10:21:35
Excellent post BRover mate.

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12 Oct 2018 10:21:33
Some good points made there brover. Great post.

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12 Oct 2018 13:31:48
Good post BRover it’s pretty much how I feel about us every season but this season in particular.
There are a few things not quite clicking this season Salah, the front 3, goals from midfield etc. but we are still top and looking like a formidable outfit.
Imagine what we’ll do when it does click we’ll be unstoppable.
I think it’s interesting what Ed1 said about us maybe playing within ourselves early on as the sports science guys have detected burnout towards the end of the season. If that’s the case I can’t wait for Klopp to take the shackles off we are in for one hell of a ride!

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12 Oct 2018 14:57:15
Great post BRover, backed up your points well and I agree completely.

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12 Oct 2018 14:55:32
Dear reddo, I am sorry if I upset you with my posts. Its not my aim to be annoying.
We all have different views its what makes this site the best.
Anyhow all the best.

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12 Oct 2018 17:41:01
Don't be apologetic for having an opinion Walter mate, you're entitled to it as much as anybody else.

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09 Oct 2018 15:50:27
Good afternoon Eds and fellow reds. May I first say a big thank you to Ed 25 and all the reds who sent the most wonderful and uplifting messages on Sunday, it was a hard day to get through but me and my boy read them and smiled. He said "we are not walking all alone dad", that got me a bit.

So back to business. At this I international break I think we are on a good if not excellent position. Out of the Caraboa cup is disappointing, the loss to Napoli was disappointing. But with two games against respectfully the weakest team in the group to come we should still be in a good position come Christmas in that competition. In the league we have played Spurs away, Chelsea away and City at home and not lost. We sit third, undefeated in the league but level on points with Chelsea and City, all without playing well pretty much all season.

It will come, the performances will happen and I think we will go on a long winning run post internationals. Ask any United fan would you want to be where we are and you wouldn't get the question out before the answer"yes" came back. Can't wait to get the internationals done and get back to it. YNWA.

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11 Oct 2018 22:48:34
Not only the run in CL seems easy on oaper, but the run in PL aswell. The club and players just needs to focus as this next run of games last seasons seemed to be the probelem. But from last season we seem to be playing well againts to so called lesser/ lower teams, so I belive we can to well in the next run untill the next international break!

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11 Oct 2018 23:27:15
Was intrigued by this post so looked back at what was said. Just Wow sir. Your queen will be unbelievably proud of you and her prince. You and your son will never walk alone. We are Liverpool. We are family.

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11 Oct 2018 23:27:31
Agreed Kimuraking. Oh, and your son is spot on.

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12 Oct 2018 00:54:08
You should be proud of yourself Kimuraking. I'm sure your boy certainly is mate. If I remember correctly you are also in Hull? if so let's meet up mate! I'd love to meet such a good person like yourself, let me know when you're free if you want mate.

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12 Oct 2018 06:41:56
From my memory, every title winning team goes through a dip at some point of the season. I just hope that this is ours right now, and the rest of the season is an even better upward swing 👍.

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11 Oct 2018 18:33:07
I am curious to know of the Ed’s or other posters opinion on Curtis Jones, Yasser Larouci and Edvard Tagseth? They were recently named on the Guardians 60 most talented players born in 2001.
I have only seen glimpses of Jones during the recent pre season tour and have never seen the other 2 play.

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{Ed001's Note - not seen enough of them to judge them mate sorry.}

11 Oct 2018 19:02:42
Whilst all still ultimately considered kids there is a view that they could turn into good players Jones, tagseth, larouci in that order.

Jones has shown he has a lot of potential, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him play a few times this season. Good dribbler with an eye for a pass he isn’t afraid to get stuck in. One of Gerard’s personal favourites, he has been improving and shown in preseason some flavour of what he can do.

Tagseth small yet mighty he was very much praised by Gerrard as well showed his quality at the U18 level good in the tackle and has shown decent positional awareness to break down attacks and recycle possession confidently.

Lastly larouci, very highly rated in France from the famous la havre youth school, took a while to settle due to various reasons very quick and skillful winger, been moved to Left back and since Adam Lewis has taken the step up hopefully we will see more opportunity.

Few others to mention: Bobby Duncan, Rys Williams and Rafa Camacho.

I think FINALLY since the days Rafa overhauled our youth system we are seeing the players and coaching needed to help push success in the system.

Ultimately we want to see more Trent’s coming through the system and with the teams increasing quality hopefully we will see some of these guys match that.

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11 Oct 2018 20:31:35
Id agree with pretty much everything said here by Southern.
Jones looks great. If he keeps working hard I reckon he will make it.
Tagseth has a lovely left foot (but needs to realise his right foot is good for something other than standing on) . However he seems to be getting injured way too much. Could be because he is still getting used to the physicality of the league but it might hold him back.
There is some real competition amongst the youngsters which is great.

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11 Oct 2018 20:41:03
Curtis Jones looked v good in pre season. Anyone know how the lad we bought from Chelsea is doing? Forget his name. CM.

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11 Oct 2018 22:42:51
Cheers lads, it’ll be interesting to see if these kids can make the breakthrough into the first team over the next couple of years.

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11 Oct 2018 17:41:51
Hi ED001, I hope that you are good and your back is better. I was wondering if you could please add to your ever growing list a player profile on my all-time favourite footballer - John Barnes. I think he was a tremendously talented footballer and it would be great to see how he would compare with the top tier of talent of today? I have searched the site to see if anything similar was done previously that maybe I had missed but could not find anything.
Also I wanted to say that, although I am not a regular poster, I ritually read the posts on a daily basis and I gain so much knowledge/ insight from ED001 and ED002 and fellow Reds. I am humbled by how much you guys know and can share. I also enjoy reading your match reviews and always look forward to them following matches. Cheers!

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{Ed001's Note - nice choice, I can remember sitting there holding my breath each time he was fouled in case he was hurt when I was a kid. Wonderful player, I will enjoy doing a profile on him. And thank you for the compliments, nice to know you enjoy them, makes it worth doing them.}

11 Oct 2018 18:23:11
Great shout my favourite player growing up had the Candy kit with 10 on the back . proper short shorts too.
Legend!

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11 Oct 2018 18:29:26
My favourite Liverpool player ever.

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11 Oct 2018 18:34:59
Great post KPee.

I was a big big fan of John Barnes and his amazing crosses, what a left foot he had!
Worked wonders with Beardsley!
JB was awsome, his step-overs, back heels and little shimmy to one side but quickly switch to the other side.

And share your sentiment about this website too.

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11 Oct 2018 19:16:08
I met Barnes in the summer. Got a signed signed photo and everything. Really nice bloke.

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11 Oct 2018 20:00:43
I met him at the "Conti" club in Liverpool in the later days of his playing career. Having had a few shandies, the first words to come out of my mouth were, "Hey John, you're not as fat as you look on the telly". He just laughed and said "Thanks mate". My claim to fame, lol.

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11 Oct 2018 20:32:23
Great shout. My favourite player too. now I look back at the climate he was playing in it makes it all the more amazing how good he was.

I will look forward to reading this profile.

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11 Oct 2018 22:46:32
He was my boyhood hero. Still is, come to think of it. In my mind he was the greatest player since Pele. pace, power, precision, he had it all. His goal against Brazil showcased all his talents in just a few seconds. Oh to go back in time and see him playing again. thank God for YouTube😎.

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12 Oct 2018 12:22:46
Thanks Ed001, Guys,

It’s great that we share the same sentiments.
My very first LFC top was the final one they did with the Crown Paints before the sponsorship deal ended. I had the number 10 on the reverse. Of course back then, they didn’t have players names on the reverse (showing my age now) . Like yourselves I idolised him and tried to play like him. As a player he was just something else. He could dribble effortlessly and make it look so simple and skip passed 1-3 players at a given time. He had a great eye for a pass/ through ball. Crossing ability was accurate. Scored some amazing ‘rare headed goals’ as they used to say. Free kick ability was top notch. Aside from these abilities some of things we do not often mention is his pace, power, closing down the ball, technical ability, radical change of position due to injury, and of course playing in a period when there were many crowd taunts towards him. People today, talk about the ‘usual’ 2 some of Messi and Ronaldo whom I agree are great gifted footballers of today. Call me biased but I would put Barnes at his peak above them. I have not yet had the chance to meet him, but would love to and have a photograph and autograph and maybe sing along with him his rap on World in Motion. I am looking forward to ED001’s profile as he really does see things from a totally different perspective to us mere mortals and that includes commentators and analysts.

Thanks!

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11 Oct 2018 15:59:38
Anyone heard from Putney Red recently? A well-considered and interesting poster. Hope all is well Putney. If you're still lurking, let us know!

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{Ed002's Note - He is taking a rest right now.}

11 Oct 2018 17:26:30
I was wondering the same stoneage, it's being a while. If you're reading Putney, I hope you're well mate.

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{Ed001's Note - he did post up a lengthy post about it, but it wasn't banter so went on one of the other pages, I forget which one. It was far too serious to post up on this page but well worth a read.}

11 Oct 2018 17:46:16
has mk been on of late?

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11 Oct 2018 19:14:27
Cheers Ed, I don't know how I missed that post mate because I usually try and keep an eye on all of the pages. How are you today Ed, your back still ok I hope? have a good evening Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - I think it was while you were on your holidays mate. Yes much better now, pretty much back to normal. How are things with you?}

11 Oct 2018 20:02:19
Ah I see Ed, that makes sense now. Glad to hear you're doing well now mate because it can be bloody brutal some back problems, thankfully it wasn't for you.

Yeah I'm alright thank you very much mate, stressful couple of days because we're selling the house, a friend of mine has pneumonia, another friend has been given 6 weeks to live, one of my boys is being bullied at school etc the list just goes on honestly mate it hasn't been my week at all but, it'll all be fine, we get there in the end don't we mate. Yesterday was worse than today so that's a positive!

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{Ed001's Note - all you can hope is tomorrow is a better day sometimes. By the sounds of it, that is something you need to hang on to.}

11 Oct 2018 20:18:31
Whenever things are going rough for me Salah, i like to think the world will balance it out with something super nice on its way. Often that does happen. Stay strong mate.

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11 Oct 2018 20:27:32
Exactly Ed, well said, hope you're having a good night mate.

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{Ed001's Note - I am just enjoying being up and about again.}

11 Oct 2018 20:18:31
Whenever things are going rough for me Salah, i like to think the world will balance it out with something super nice on its way. Often that does happen. Stay strong mate.

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11 Oct 2018 20:27:32
Exactly Ed, well said, hope you're having a good night mate.

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{Ed001's Note - it was yes mate, finishing now though. I hope things get better for you mate.}

11 Oct 2018 22:17:36
Agreed Taurus, I like to look at life like that too mate, there's always a positive from a negative situation, no matter what it is or how bad it is.

Thank you very much Ed it's been a tough few months there's no doubt about that but things will change and things will be better soon mate I have no doubt about it.

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{Ed001's Note - it doesn't sound like they can get any worse to be honest!}

11 Oct 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Mourinho International break

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11 Oct 2018 15:07:47
Any ideas when the fixture change for Dec onwards is out?
In Liverpool a few weekends and trying to see what's possible. Arsenal would be good but im 100% sure that will be changed for TV.

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{Ed002's Note - Any time now.}

11 Oct 2018 15:23:25
thanks ed002.

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{Ed002's Note - No problem; but it is literally on top of us at the moment.}

 


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