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22 Jul 2017 17:23:35
Surley we can't be thinking of replacing countinho with naby after today's performance. build the team around him and we will be rewarded in the coming years . The linkup play between countiho and mo was amazing.

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22 Jul 2017 17:35:25
I honestly think he won't go to Barcelona. If it's true Neymar was in his ear to come over but then he's leaving to play for PSG cause he's fed up of being second fiddle to Messi I'd b thinking if I was him no I'm staying and I'm going to become a legend here not a bit part player over there.

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22 Jul 2017 17:35:42
Perspective: it was a friendly, chill ya beans. I have lots of respect for Coutinho, but don't use a friendly to justify his worth to the team, that's daft.

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22 Jul 2017 18:34:14
Seriously Seaono? Not sure if trolling or not but that performance and linkup play is something we have seen Coutinho do time and time and time again which has made him become an LFC favorite.
It is not based on the 1 friendly performance.
Everybody who actually watches LFC knows without him we don’t have as much creativity. He is arguably the best player for us when he is on his day. he’s slightly inconsistent but a lot better than he was a few years ago. Now we easily notice when he isn’t on the field.
His worth to the team is unimaginable. If we sell him we can kiss any chance of a title challenge goodbye and that is fact and not based on 1 performance.

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22 Jul 2017 19:18:09
He has that X factor that can mean the difference between winning and losing - not many players do. we should not be selling him.

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22 Jul 2017 21:14:42
I bloody hope you're right Fowler, I've got a really bad feeling after watching his reaction in the highlights today. I literally can't think of anyone we could even begin to replace him with.

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22 Jul 2017 17:11:05
Surely this tour of the Orient and obvious money grab is not good for the club? Now another long flight back to England and then a training camp in Germany.

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22 Jul 2017 17:17:27
Not good for the team, but very good for the club!

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22 Jul 2017 17:21:52
It's 4 weeks until the season starts. I think they will recover just fine.

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22 Jul 2017 17:28:43
It's 3 weeks. But still. They've plenty of time to recover.

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22 Jul 2017 17:31:59
Why is it not good for the club? We need to boost our commercial might and that is what tournaments like these are for. If you are not complaining about other teams doing things like this like Arsenal, Utd, City and Chelsea are currently doing, why is it problem when LFC do it?

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22 Jul 2017 18:08:18
If the squad were flying economy it would be a problem but a long haul flight flying business class must be such a slog . my heart bleeds for them.

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22 Jul 2017 16:58:53
Ed01 and Ed02 do you think Keita and VVD are good enough to help us win the title this year? It's two huge fees by all accounts and for that money you'd hope they are both worldies.
What do you other fans think?

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{Ed001's Note - no idea.}

22 Jul 2017 17:13:05
Go on holiday enjoy the summer mate and avoid the tabloids it will give you an ulcer.

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22 Jul 2017 17:16:23
Assuming we get them
Vvd will for sure help a lot and hopefully command our defence as it needs. It is so unorganized and they just don't gel together or shout commands between themselves. I doubt the 2 center half a know where the other is 80% of the time.


Keita will create more chances and possibly grab a few goals but in saying that, who in our midfield doesn't atm? Albeit he will create more than some possibly and be perfect when pressing.

Salah will be our biggest impact signing going forward and VVD when defending.

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22 Jul 2017 17:30:11
Those players in and of themselves wouldn't propel us to a title, and while I'm not trying to dismiss them or lessen their potential impact, I think our future success is dependent on how well Jurgen and the coaches bring the team together and get them playing to their full potential, making sure to instil confidence and discipline to maintain form for an entire season. I think there's a lot of work to be done on the training ground still, and I think those two would add a lot to the team, but I think we have the potential to push for the title already, it'd be foolish to dismiss us (our form against the top teams is on point) we just need to remain mentally strong and maintain form for 38 games.

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22 Jul 2017 17:34:47
I don't know how creative Keita is RP so I'll reserve judgement on that. As for our ability to create, we have that ability but without Couts, it will be dealt a huge blow as he is the perfect playmaker in our system as he operates from the wing and from deep. Not sure Keita can do any of that.

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22 Jul 2017 19:06:04
Spot on Licky Lambert (should be licky Rambert, missed out there bud 😜)

We do have the potential to win the league and we showed that last season until the second half of the season. we just need an improved defence which VVD would bring along with our new PROPER left back, and some extra players going forward who won’t add massive amounts to the team, but when rotating the squad or players get injured we won’t notice huge gaps because someone of similar talent is in place.

If Salah or mane get injured, we can push couts (please stay! ) And lallana out wide, and not miss them in the middle of the park with Keita in place.

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22 Jul 2017 19:44:50
We don't need their help to win the title 🏆.

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22 Jul 2017 20:06:10
Fact remains going into any single game over 90 mins I fancy our chances to win or at the least get a result so yes we can win the league. what we need to somehow employ is a way to get the players playing close to 100% every week easier said than done obviously.

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22 Jul 2017 20:10:38
2 very very good players that will massively strengthen the spine of the team.

If couts stays and we stay as injury free as possible I'd say we could have a good go.

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22 Jul 2017 20:17:20
Yes they are. A CB who will eliminate those stupid headers of milner and a dynamic CM who will keep us ticking great in the absence of Coutinho what you saw in the second half!

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22 Jul 2017 19:46:56
B Scouse

Yes Keita does it week in week out at RBL. Why do you think we are splashing record money for him!

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22 Jul 2017 21:36:41
I'm not sure about kieta, seems to run into dead ends a lot, like to see a midfielder play an early ball and split a defence.

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22 Jul 2017 16:34:58
Ed 001 sorry if you have answered this before but was curious as to who you think the best player in the world is? Top 3 actually. Curious to know who you prefer between Ronaldo and Messi.

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{Ed001's Note - it really depends on how you view it. Ronaldo is the best individual player in the world. Messi is the best team player in the world. Third best is a difficult one, but at his best it is probably Luis Suarez.}

22 Jul 2017 17:35:33
Best assessment I've ever heard, Ed. Bravo, sir.

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22 Jul 2017 17:49:22
I always think attackers get far too much credit in comparison to their defensive counterparts. As an example Juventus have, say Dybala, up front, and he is immense. But they also have Buffon between the sticks, a monster who surely earns them close, if not more, to the points Dybala does. I think 'best' is skewed in favour of attacking talent for obvious reasons i. e. attention-grabbing, headline stuff, entertaining. But actually looking at it i'm not sure it is justified - for me I'd go for Titus Bramble: good in the air, good on the ground (so long as he doesn't actually have the ball), strong, fearless (some would say reckless but to hell with the naysayers), can pick a 3 yard pass, is impervious to any criticisms around him including his own players simply advising him to pass) - surely a hall of famer?

Seriously though defenders are criminally overlooked - someone like Ronaldo couldn't be as successful without the players behind him doing the defensive graft, they deserve just as much recognition.

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{Ed001's Note - I actually agree with that, which is why I never like these kind of comparisons.}

22 Jul 2017 20:09:08
In my humble opinion forget everything else if you're going to build a player from scratch it would end up being close to Ronaldo. he is simply a physical specimen!

Original Ronaldo most exciting I've seen and cafu was the best player I've ever seen.

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22 Jul 2017 19:47:30
Messi hands down both individual and team player. He is one of a kind. Ronaldo comes second and Suarez third!

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22 Jul 2017 19:53:28
There was no doubting Suarez talent on the pitch but I just find it hard to think of him as a hero, as a player I will always rate god as a better player and finisher.

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22 Jul 2017 23:53:43
How about the best 11 in the world can be any legit formation.

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22 Jul 2017 16:34:28
Would love to keep kent could be a very good option off the bench, direct, pace and uses both feet descent crossing quality. Can be a nightmare for full backs late on in the game.

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22 Jul 2017 17:36:23
I think he is still one more season away but i agree, he is very, very good.

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22 Jul 2017 20:10:37
I could be wrong was he not one that was being talked about as leaving this summer during the season? Have things changed as I do like him and he dribbles with the ball a lot closer to him now than I remember which is a big achievement.

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22 Jul 2017 19:49:00
It's a difficult choice, keeping him as a mere back up would hinder his development. He needs minutes on the pitch either at Liverpool or on a good loan!

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22 Jul 2017 15:19:45
Sturridge looks like he's got that bounce in his step back.

He seems to be moving more freely around that pitch.

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22 Jul 2017 16:10:19
He seems a bit more agile than I ever remember and not sure but he looks to have "beefed up" slightly, not majorly but slightly more than usual and has a bit more strength to hold players off. Looking good for the season ahead, let’s hope he has done something about his injury proneness.

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22 Jul 2017 17:11:46
Early days, bound t be out sooner or later!

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22 Jul 2017 19:51:15
I don't understand why he keeps dropping into the middle! He is a poacher and should be making runs for anyone to pick him! He should be playing a lot higher and not drop into the middle!

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22 Jul 2017 20:52:57
Agreed Naby, he kept coming too far back and at some point I thought he changed to a cm.
Might just be what Klopp wants from him though or he could be testing what to do with him.

We really needed mane fit because it's a mystery to see what Klopp will do with Studge and Firmino given they are both putting in great performances and IMO if things keep on improving with fitness, it'll be very hard to chose between the 2 who stars, could even see 4-1-3-2 again having both start
Hendo
Mane Couts Salah
Studge bobby.

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22 Jul 2017 21:28:40
He needs to work on his shooting. He's improved in every other aspect but he scuffs every shot at the moment. A couple of goals might help he looks like he's snatching at chances to me.

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22 Jul 2017 23:59:07
i’ve got a feeling he has had to work on a completely new way of shooting to be honest and that’s why his shots are so bad.
In the past he would always injury himself slightly (and majorly) whenever he took a shot which he drove in with some power, guess now he’s trying to learn precision over power and finding it difficult since power worked (for the most part)

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22 Jul 2017 15:15:31
Coutinho and salah will get all the plaudits and rightly so both where awesome. But henderson this second half has shown that he is vitaly important, keeps things ticking in the middle of the park and tell you what he breaks the play up unbelievably aswel. Well done Hendo.

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22 Jul 2017 15:24:51
KJ, Hendo just like Wiji, have always been important players for us under Klopp and that has not and won't ever change. It is his detractors many of who have ne idea why they slate him cos they just do it cos those around them do it, that unfairly slate him without watching him closely to see all the dirty and unflashy work he does on the pitch.

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22 Jul 2017 17:03:55
Hendo was excellent. Great to have our Captain back!

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22 Jul 2017 17:14:52
Per Echo FSG has told Klopp the Magician will not be sold.

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22 Jul 2017 17:38:09
Then, that settles it then. Time to focus on the preseason and get ready for the season ahead as it may be a quite memorable one, hopefully.

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22 Jul 2017 19:46:46
Of course and that's why Klopp is looking at a more dynamic playmaker in Keita. Lol. Second half was all passing Sideways Brendan Rodgers! Wijnaldum was cut open by Mahrez not once!

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22 Jul 2017 21:31:22
Imagine when Mane is thrown into the mix too! Salah and Mane terrorising from the flanks and any one of Firmino, Studge, Origi, Solanke occupying them in the middle with Coutinho and hopefully Keita pulling the strings in midfield. Wow!

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22 Jul 2017 14:36:43
I don't care whether we get Keita or not. WE SHOULDNOT SELL COUTINHO! Its not about replacable or not. Its about building a squad with best players. And a ques for eds. Now that neymar is tryin to move for PSG. does coutinhos opinion changed?

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{Ed001's Note - why would it?}

22 Jul 2017 15:27:33
Couts should NOT be sold this season, end of story and another stellar performance in today's game (like we needed any more reminders of his influence in our system), proves that. I would gladly walk away from Keita if it means we keep Couts for at least one more season.

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22 Jul 2017 18:29:58
B SCOUSE, were
We're was this wonderful, magical, world class talent called
COUTINHO when we needed him most in our 2 cup finals last year, people have short memories, when push comes to shove he doesn't produce he goes missing in action, LFC will survive nicely without him, and KLOPP knows that, that's why he told PSG to come back with a bigger offer last January.

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22 Jul 2017 14:45:38
Guessing couts must be on around 200k. Kieta if signed 150k.

Why not tell Barcelona they can have couts and the 70mil for kieta for neymar and pay him what there combined salary would be.

What a front 3.

Then just finish our business with a proven CB.

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22 Jul 2017 15:28:44
Dillusions of grandeur.

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22 Jul 2017 17:16:20
This page is called banter. I have no expectation or belief off could get or afford neymar lol.

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22 Jul 2017 14:21:27
Bit of a poll on goalkeepers, what would people prefer? Option A where Ward goes out on loan or option B where Karius goes out on loan?

(a) Mignolet [1] Karius [2]
(b) Mignolet [1] Ward [2]

Personally, I'd like A but that's really because I think Ward has a suitable and beneficial loan option available with Huddersfield where he can continue developing. A loan could hinder Karius further.

Thoughts?

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22 Jul 2017 14:31:27
I think Ward did enough last season to show that he atleast deserves a chance in pre season to see if he can become No.1.

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22 Jul 2017 16:43:22
Andy, I don't think Klopp agrees with you.

He's not giving Ward any game time.

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22 Jul 2017 17:40:43
Ward's ship has sailed and I don't expect him to be here come the end of the TW.

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