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19 Nov 2017 02:10:37
Hi eds, my question is regarding team training sessions. Do teams actually rehearse their attacking moves? I know defensively they practice but offensive? I ask because Citeh 1st goal look very much like a training ground move. Do coaches drill the team til they master say attacking moves 1-99.if yes wouldn't that be so difficult as the permutation on field is so varied?

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19 Nov 2017 02:28:32
you can't practice defending without someone attacking! well, you can actually but you get my point. Of course they practice attacking football in training. maybe not exact moves as you never know how the ball will roll in a match but I would imagine pro footballers are quite creative in training and perhaps more adventurous.

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18 Nov 2017 22:43:30
thanks for the sharkpod btw.

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18 Nov 2017 22:42:55
ed 002 drunk question what languages do you speak apart from french and american english.

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19 Nov 2017 11:46:07

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18 Nov 2017 21:47:15
Moreno's wife just had baby boy last night: Alberto Junior

Congratulations to Alberto and his family and the way dad is playing this season Alberto Junior will be a proud lad.

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18 Nov 2017 22:13:43
Second that credit where its due I am really happy to see a player want to stay and fight forhis club career npt about money or contracts just about wanting to do his bestdinner for liverpool #respect alberto.

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18 Nov 2017 23:39:30
he won me over weeks ago, good to have a quick, intelligent, left footed left back and another to boot. Congrats all round moreno.

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19 Nov 2017 00:37:57
Well said. Moreno has not let the abuse or distractions get to him and he fully merits his place in the team. Congratulations to him for becoming a father, and the boy did not even let that get in the way of being a true professional. Great lad!

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19 Nov 2017 04:20:56
Moreno's form doesn't really come into any discussion about him having a child, are we only going to start congratulating players who are playing well now? 😂

Nah i've been his biggest critic but whether he is playing amazingly or woefully he is still a member of Liverpool Football Club, it is only a game. Important to remember that no matter what happens on the pitch all of our players are still human beings.

Congratulations Alberto Snr.

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18 Nov 2017 20:51:00
a mention for Liverpool u23s had a good 4.0 win against Everton u23s tonight rhian Brewster was amongst the scores well done lads.

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18 Nov 2017 21:45:14
Eds25 you ok.

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{Ed025's Note - yeah fine thanks ace, got a lot of stuff on the moment mate but i will be back to tell you lot the truth very shortly..but thanks for asking..

19 Nov 2017 06:48:52
That's good take care.

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{Ed025's Note - you too mate..

18 Nov 2017 20:03:43
Good evening ed001, how are you mate?

Dud you watch the game? I see Pipco playred and scored, was you surprised he started? Seems Klopp bottled it in dropping him.

Wanted your feedback please mate. i've read the Sharkopod over and over but do YOU think we will return for VVD in January or more likely De vrij or Howedes.

I remember in thr summer you was in contact with people within the club who suggested we would go for him. Are those noises still there mate?

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{Ed001's Note - I saw the game, it was a surprise but it worked out well and he did actually play well and try, so we can have no complaints.

We have moved on from VVD unless Saints indicate they have decided to sell.}

18 nov 2017 20:29:10
people were queuing up to hammer pipco on here.
as i said irrespective of whether or not he’s staying he will still prove to be a pivotal player for the rest of the season.

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{Ed0333's Note - how can he be a pivotal player if he leaves?

18 Nov 2017 20:36:25
If he leaves it will be at end of season.

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18 Nov 2017 21:04:33
"as i said irrespective of whether or not he’s staying he will still prove to be a pivotal player for the rest of the season. "

Until he has a fanny wobble again. He has to show Barcelona why they need him every once in a while.

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{Ed0333's Note - Do you know what irrespective means mate? If he moves on January 1st 2018 how can he be a pivotal player for us until the end of the season which ends in May 2018?

18 Nov 2017 21:04:34
As long as he is performing then play him.

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18 Nov 2017 21:26:25
Ok ed cheers for reply mate. De Vrij will do for me.

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18 Nov 2017 21:31:37
Max you said yesterday he should go. Make your mind up.

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18 Nov 2017 21:34:47
Thats good news ed001,much rather see us try gimenez or de vrij before going through the humiliation of paying £70 million for van dijk.

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18 Nov 2017 22:12:24
I’ve never seen Gimenez or De Vrij play but I have seen VVD play, if Klopp still wants him that’s good enough for me, regardless of how much he costs.

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18 Nov 2017 22:15:01
"Max you said yesterday he should go. Make your mind up. "

You need to go read my post again.

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18 Nov 2017 23:44:16
i'm worried he may leave in January. I think if Liverpool were in a realistic title chase he would stay til the summer. I still think we can win it but I'm probably the only one. Champions league progress may decide pc leaving in January or june.

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18 Nov 2017 21:40:30
Everyone else knows what I meant
I clarified what I meant.

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{Ed0333's Note - ok mate no worries. Have a super weekend

19 Nov 2017 04:01:45
The club have colossaly ballsed up on the defensive side of transfers, but i genuinly do believe we are a centre back and a defensive mid away from a potential title challenge.

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18 Nov 2017 19:46:21
One goal conceded at home in the league so far this season in the league, dodgy defence, just a confidence issue away from home, supporters criticism on social media effecting the players? Discuss.

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18 Nov 2017 20:22:07
Definitely a dodgy defence. The batterings at Spurs and City support that.

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18 Nov 2017 20:24:52
Our defense is dodgy, Klopp is terrible, Firmino is a terrible striker, and Salah is overrated.

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18 Nov 2017 20:37:23
Most of the defence and keepers have been here for a couple of seasons at least. If it was confidence it would suggest a small window. However this has been our weakness for a number of years.

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18 Nov 2017 23:51:03
is George t joking? top goal scorer over rated? stats can lie but not that one. Our defence have proved time and time again that they can keep teams out at home. confidence away? defo. Klopp is far from terrible, people purr over city but we're playing some beautiful football too. Klopp has won way more than he has lost against the top 6 sides. way more. Liverpool have had our blip and we are coming strong, I think we are slowly and quietly building up to a dramatic chace down of city. Will we make it? doubt it but anything is possible.

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{Ed0333's Note - Oh I hope my friend we are “quietly building up to a dramatic chase down of City”. Can you imagine if we won the league from 12 points behind? I would perform favors for Klopp his wife refuses to.

19 Nov 2017 06:06:28
I second what Jayden said, to say it's a confidence issue is just delusional. This has been going on for many years now so it's a lot deeper than that. Get in the right defensive reinforcements and we're title challengers 100%, and that for me only means 1 or 2 players.

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19 Nov 2017 11:04:17
Whilst the goals conceded is a very good start, it's not the full picture. Some games we get a clean sheet because the opponent is very wasteful. It's more than a confidence issue, it's part organisation, part confidence and part quality.

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18 Nov 2017 18:50:36
Great game from the lads today. 3 goals scored, clean sheet, Salah starting to look like Fowler with pace etc.

What is Salah's ceiling? He has 14 Goals in 18 games! He started the season scoring about a goal every other game, and then in the last 2 games he has scored 4! If he carries on at this rate, we could be looking at a record breaking Premier League goals tally. He is easily looking like a 40 goal a season player in al competitions. That is terrifying!

What an absolute monster. Thank god he's a Liverpool fan. Sign him to a 9 year contract and give him the key to the City. Build a god damn statue if that's what it takes; DO NOT LOSE THIS MAN! I am not exagerrating when i say, he may actually become the best player we've had in my lifetime.

Wow. I'm going to get a drink to calm myself down. Pinch me.

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{Ed0333's Note - Post of the day so far. I love it when people make me laugh.

18 Nov 2017 18:58:48
Yet some are begging for an out and out striker. HA HA.

Salah putting most out and out stirkers to bed.

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18 Nov 2017 19:04:47
MK mate I know what you mean I love him just love him. You know what excites/ scares me is that with no exagerration he could have easily had close to 10 more goals to his current tally so far. He hits the 40 goal barrier this season I would happily carry him around Anfield, actually to hell with it around Liverpool like some sort of royal prince.

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{Ed0333's Note - I’m with you Alonso Salah’s goal tally would have been unbelievable had he even scored 50% of the glorious chances he’s missed. But I’m not complaining mind, he is incredible and he’s ours.

18 Nov 2017 19:17:35
Salah has been immense this season and the guy always plays with a smile on his face. Mane has also been a top top signing for us. But people are kidding themselves if they say they wouldn't want a world class goal scorer in between them. Did Luis playing up top effect Messi or Neymars tally, has Aguero effected Sane, Sterling, Jesus or De Bruynes. What about costa last season with Hazard and Pedro. No they just added more goals and complimented them and won them leagues. But yeah we are 5th so why would we need a top striker.

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18 Nov 2017 19:29:33
Not saying a top striker is the priority though as it's clearly not. However I wouldn't turn one down. I think we average something like 20+ shots a game. Games like today are great but it's the games where we fail to score or capatilise on our chances which are the ones that result in us not challenging for titles and is where a top striker could be the difference.

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18 Nov 2017 19:32:56
Jayden. add a stirker and you might take Slaha's presence away.

Salah is basically our striker. Who is this striker that is going to be scoring 14 in 18 matches for us. HA HA.

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18 Nov 2017 19:44:28
Let's be honest, Salah pretty much is our striker. What is the difference between Salah who starts out wide and drifts centrally, or Lukaku who starts centrally and drifts out wide? People care too much about theoretical positions and where the dots are on a magnetic tactics board.

All i care about is that we now have 4 players on the Premier league top scorers list. Salah (9), Mane (3), Coutinho (3) and Firmino (3). Only City with 5 players have more individuals in the top 20. Mane and Coutinho have been missing as well so would probably have double under normal circumstances and Lallana would probably be there too had he been fit.

We have more than enough goal scorers. I couldn't care less what numbers or positions they play if I'm honest. It's all in peoples minds. We're like a swarm of locusts going forward since signing that Egyptian God. Can Amy locals tell me if The Mersey is running red?

Speaking of Salah though, who's up for an E-petition to get him to knight the Queen? I'd love to see Queen Lizzy down on one knee as he gave her his blessing.

What a man. We love you Mohamed Fowlah!

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18 Nov 2017 19:44:50
A lot of Salah’s goals are caused by Firmino vacating the centre forward area allowing Salah to take that space and get in a position to score goals. If you had a traditional forward instead of Firmino that space would be occupied by that forward and a lot of the space in which Salah currently operates would vanish. Instead of complaining about what we don’t have maybe we should be praising Klopp for creating the circumstances where Salah can be this affective.

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18 Nov 2017 19:52:22
I don't get why people are so obsessed with getting a striker. It's firmino that creates the goals with his movement, his touch and his ability. I wouldn't want yo see him replaced up there. When he's on form we r great. He's the perfect foil for mane and salah.

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18 Nov 2017 19:53:56
Max so do you think only 1 player can score in a match 🤦🏻‍♂. Another goalscorer will just add more threat to a team. Or should we just sell Mane as well because he is getting some of Salah's chances too 🤦🏻‍♂.

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18 Nov 2017 20:06:43
Jayden, Salah is scoring plenty. Why exactly would you want to take that away from him? If we do add an out and out striker (who ever that may be), let's hope he will score as many as Salah while trying to provide the out and out strker with chances.

Some people will never be pleased.

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18 Nov 2017 20:22:50
Who cares
Let klopp get on with it. none of us are experts.
If it works then why question it.
Its the defence that we can all question.

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18 Nov 2017 20:26:14
Salah and Mane are proving that maybe we don’t need an out and out striker. Salah is a quality player and looks an absolute steal. He was every bit as good as Dybala last season and he’s carrying that on. Was dead happy when we got him and he just keeps getting better.

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18 Nov 2017 20:39:19
Last time we had an out and out top class striker was the last time we competed for a league title. But like I said we are 5th so that's just as good these days. A striker would compliment Mane and Salah not hinder them.

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18 Nov 2017 20:39:46
"Its the defence that we can all question. "

5 cleans sheets in 8 matches all competitions since start of October.

That is an improvement, surely?

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18 Nov 2017 20:43:22
Sandon if you think we shouldn't debate then why come onto a forum yourself.

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18 Nov 2017 20:54:26
I think you're missing my point lads. With a top class striker in between them not only would Mane and Salah still score the same amount but their assists would go through the roof and so would our goals for. Look at the games Salah and Mane haven't been effective this season. We lost or drew them. Striker is not a priority position but we are here to debate and if a top striker came In I would be over the moon. After all looking at Klopps signings there is probably more chance of a top class striker coming in than a keeper or centre half.

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18 Nov 2017 21:01:20
"A striker would compliment Mane and Salah not hinder them. "

So you want 3 players scoring 14 goals in 18 matches each?

Come on mate. This is not fantasy football.

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18 Nov 2017 21:32:58
Max 🤦🏻‍♂.

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19 Nov 2017 00:55:31
i am impressed with salah, he is scoring goals from right left and centre, long range headers tap ins you name it.

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19 Nov 2017 02:17:55
The best thing about Salah is we did not buy him for goal scoring. More like attacking outlet on either flank. So there is no pressure on him to score which can only be good thing when a player has goal scoring opportunity.

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19 Nov 2017 03:08:13
Hallo Mr Baytay, "I don't get why people are so obsessed with getting a striker. It's firmino that creates the goals with his movement, his touch and his ability. "

You are wrong. We need a striker who can do what Firmino doing albeit not as well but can rack up 25 goals. There are strikers who can still do it. Like Auba, Lewandowski, Suarez, aguero, Jesus, Griezmann even Sturridge when fit can do it.

But Firmino is not in that class. We need players of that class yet cost us at most 40mil. I believe there are players out there just that Klopp and team not thinking laterally.

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19 Nov 2017 08:42:36
What we are saying is if a top striker plays then Salah does not score as many goals. So that means if Firminho scored his chances yesterday then Salah wouldn't have scored his. How does that even work out they are all separate chances. Unless the striker is stood on both Mane and Salahs toes for the whole game he is not going to be in the same place to steal their chances. A top striker could and I use the word could have stopped us dropping important points in the games that Salah and Mane didn't score in like Utd, Burnley and Newcastle etc this season.

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18 Nov 2017 18:50:15
Great win today and seems like the team is finally learning some defensive solidity. 5 clean sheets in 8, all competitions since beginning of October.

Salah, signing of the season. This guy just wants to play football, gives everything and is scoring at a sublime rate. Have not seen a player who is as humble as Salah on a pitch in a very, very long time.

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18 Nov 2017 20:28:22
Salah has the lot, pace, skill, goal threat and work rate. Both him and Mane are always looking at being in the right place as well. Really positive performance and result.

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18 Nov 2017 18:47:08
good result from the lads today and salah is turning out to be a bargin let's hope we can turn Chelsea over next week and go level on points with them.

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18 Nov 2017 19:12:28
Was gutted when signed for Chelsea instead of us now looks to be a blessing.

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18 Nov 2017 20:29:31
He’ll be extra motivated against Chelsea as he’ll want to show them what they missed out.

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