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19 May 2019 15:15:53
Afternoon eds is it true we are supposed to be playing City at Wembley in charity shield. Cheers.

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{Ed025's Note - that seems to be the plan mate..

19 May 2019 15:52:51
Cool, looking forward to LFC win
CL Final 2019
Community shield
The UEFA Super cup
World Club Champions cup

Carbaro Cup
FA Cup
PL Trophy being the big one.

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19 May 2019 14:46:00
what do you think is the problem with playing a midfield of Fabinho, Keita and Shaq? If Shaq? Is it his defensive contributions? And do you him as able to improve this?

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19 May 2019 15:16:08
I think the problem is it’s not our best midfield.

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19 May 2019 16:13:30
OP, that is as unbalanced a midfield as you will ever find. If you play Fab (ad boss DM) alongside two other midfielders who do not cover the gaps well when we lose the ball, lack tactical defensive awareness and any form of hardwork off the ball (things Shaq and Keita are known for as of now), you are essentially leaving our midfield overrun and Fab all at sea. That midfield setup will be a disaster. Just my opinion.

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19 May 2019 16:34:03
I think its coz of experience and passion. throw hendo in instead of shaq nd it becomes our best?

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19 May 2019 20:14:33
In our current style of play, our best midfield is Hendo, Wijnaldum and Fabinho. If we put in Keita and Shaqiri, then our style of play would have to be altered with our fullbacks staying back much more to help out Fabinho.

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19 May 2019 13:01:09
Have I got this right, both us and Tottenham will be allowed 12 subs each for the UCL final?

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{Ed002's Note - On the bench yes, but obvious only 3/4 can be used.}

19 May 2019 13:26:49
Sorry Ed, do you mean three-quarters can be used or that three/ four can be used? Also, what's the reason for increasing the number?

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{Ed002's Note - Three can be used during normal time and a fouth during extra time. It changed at the start of this season.}

19 May 2019 14:30:55
Oh, nice one, Ed. Thanks. Is this new subs rule for this UCL final alone or will it be something that will be implemented on a wider scale next season in European comps.? Cheers, man.

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{Ed002's Note - The fourth sub will be available to be used where there are UEFA games that can go in to extra time. The 12 subs will initially be the finals and the super cup.}

19 May 2019 16:14:15
Many thanks, Ed02.

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19 May 2019 17:44:29
Yes you can only use three quarters of a sub, we’re going to bring most of James Milner on after 60 mins.

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19 May 2019 19:30:38
3/ 4 of James milner would probably still do a solid job to be fair.

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19 May 2019 21:48:25
both legs and an arm.

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19 May 2019 12:38:46
Hi Eds,

A Manchester based friend of mine swears that now Kompany has moved on, City are focusing on VVD to replace him.

Put my mind at rest and confirm big Virgil won't be going anywhere, this summer at least.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Maybe he will go on strike again to force a move?}

19 May 2019 13:18:39
He rejected City to sign for us. Total nonsense.

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19 May 2019 13:20:40
hahahahahaha they can only dream.

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19 May 2019 13:24:03
I think that is wishful thinking from your friend.

VVD will not be leaving. The amount of money we would demand City would probably walk away.

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19 May 2019 13:48:58
Our entire team will sign for someone else throughout the summer it happens to us every year, its a wonder we ever manage to field 11 players come August.

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19 May 2019 13:52:08
Completely agree, B4TR. I'm sure at the time one of the Eds stated we had to overpay. I believe there were offers on the table from Manchester City and Chelsea that we're about 10 million less than we had to pay eventually (due to our club's poor behaviour admittedly) . Consider that his valuation will be triple what City and Chelsea were prepared to pay 18 months ago and it's pretty clear Virgil is going nowhere!

Anyway, If Virgil wanted to sign for City he'd have done it back then when they were top of the table and we were scraping by in 4th place, about 20 points behind them. Not now with us in back to back CL finals and only 1 point behind them.

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19 May 2019 14:35:28
OP, your friend is whinding you up, man and I'm not sure how you bought this whind-up rumor, really? There were offers from Chelsea and City when we were in for VVD during the whole tapping up saga. VVD had made it clear that he wanted Liverpool or basta. How City will come looking for VVD this time, beggars belief really. As Ed02 said, maybe he will go on strike again to force a move cos that is the ONLY way City have a prayer of a chance so get him. Did I also mention that City may not even be able to afford him?

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19 May 2019 14:52:11
@Swiftykop

Don’t worry mate, with all the done deals we have enough players for 2 squads 😄👍.

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19 May 2019 14:57:57
Only if they're half as good at tapping up as we are no doubt they can fiddle their books again and he'll sign for free on £50 a week so they comply with ffp.

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19 May 2019 18:32:18
I wouldn’t sell City a “ virus” now.

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19 May 2019 20:12:12
Brilliantly done, Drogie.

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19 May 2019 20:11:55
We could do one of those dodgy city deals and probably own city in exchange for vvd. Help us win the league though.

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19 May 2019 13:18:39
He rejected City to sign for us. Total nonsense.

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Lewis Dunk

19 May 2019 13:02:14
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Lewis Dunk

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19 May 2019 14:54:02
Love it Ed. Thanks for that. Have a great day.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}

19 May 2019 12:34:54
Fixtures for next season announced on 13th June.
No longer will the Utd fixtures be the first I look for. This city rivalry is going to become intense.

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19 May 2019 12:58:47
City is a small club with no history. Don't give them more attention than they deserve.

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19 May 2019 13:05:49
A club with no history that has 6 league titles, 6 FA cups and 6 League Cups?

Like it or lump it, they have made history. 8 of those trophies came before the cash influx. You don't have to show them attention but the first step to overhauling them in the next few years is at the very least showing them respect.

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19 May 2019 13:22:30
I agree with you MK. Like it or lump it what City have done last few years is immense. I can be as bitter as anyone and bang in about size if our club and Our history but City are the team to beat. This season we have been the closest to them and pushed them all the way in the league, let’s hope there domination doesn’t continue over the next few years. We need to push on and compete in every level and competition next season.

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19 May 2019 13:32:51
History wins you nothing. We should know.

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19 May 2019 14:09:45
How history will judge Man City’s association with UAE is questionable at the very least.

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19 May 2019 14:33:36
History won us at least 18 league titles.

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19 May 2019 16:52:21
To be honest I've been very disappointed with how the City fans are behaving over their success this season. I used to have a lot of time for them but their more obnoxious element - and I know they exist at most other clubs - seems to have gone on a social media rampage the past week or so.

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19 May 2019 19:58:56
I fully disagree, OP and MK. It's NOT about being bitter, history or whether it wins you anything or not. History is ONLY there for you to learn from and recognize it for what it is esp. if it is as rich as that of LFC. You don't use that to go on the field as some kind of badge of honor or entitlement as that is just stupid and counterproductive. This is what Klopp has eradicated from this club, thankfully.

Regarding City, I acknowledge their success for what it is, nothing more. I see them as a team that is standing in our way to PL glory, end of story. They are not a rival, IMO. How are they our rivals when even when they win, they their insecure manager esp. still bitching as to why his team get no respect and never stops talking about us? I mean, we are living rent free in their heads, it's so creepy. Only Everton fans can be compared to this lot and they don't even win a corner kick.

City are simply a team and club that the Sheikhs in the UAE picked to plunge all their money into to prop themselves up globally. Remember, they wanted to do this at LFC too BUT the Moores rebuffed them, THANKFULLY. The government of Qatar did the same thing at PSG and even now, they have become the BIGGEST running joke in France esp. after the dreadful season they have had domestically and in Europe.

I take them as what they are, an average club funded by a country's government (like anyone can compete with that) that wins trophies, period. And the fact that we were able to push them all the way to the end of the season and came up short by one point, is a glowing testament to the job or boys and Klopp did.

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19 May 2019 20:13:16
What type of rival would act like complete, insecure sore "winners" after winning the treble? That is not a rival, IMO. That is just a whierd and creepy bunch who need help. Even the Bitters don't act that way.

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19 May 2019 20:17:56
Johnnyr1970, they are becoming creepy and cringeworthy with their strange and insecure comments.

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Ralph Hasenhuttl

19 May 2019 12:20:06
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new manager profile about, Ralph Hasenhuttl

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19 May 2019 12:52:52
Hi Ed, I agree with the improvement in Redmond. He's always had an eye for a goal but now looks so much more of a threat. Will be interesti g to see how RH deals with the clubs habit of selling their best players.

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19 May 2019 13:06:58
Can't wait to see Redmond in a Liverpool shirt 😏.

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19 May 2019 13:22:47
From what I’ve heard down at Saints he seems a top bloke - a bit like Klopp. My son told me he went round the Academy at Xmas introducing him to all the youngsters. Made quite an impression from previous managers.

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19 May 2019 14:57:15
There was a big difference in the quality of play when Hasenhuttl came on board with Southampton. They should be much better next season.

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19 May 2019 14:59:40
The job he did at RBL is quite phenomenal.

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19 May 2019 18:18:08
Talented coach, surprised Southhampton got him after hiring so many duds. Should get them back on track next season.

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19 May 2019 17:15:54
Thanks eds 👍🏻.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

19 May 2019 12:10:21
Ed is it true that brandts release clause is now removed due to BL qualifying for europe?

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{Ed002's Note - There was no release clause applicable to Liverpool in any way.}

19 May 2019 12:25:51
Yeah but if it was able to be used by other clubs it would have surely limited his team's asking price to an extent for other interested clubs. Do you know if it is now void though?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about, sorry. I have explained that there was never any "release clause" that Liverpool could use.}

19 May 2019 13:00:47
Ok well I clearly said other clubs, not Liverpool.

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19 May 2019 13:44:02
I think what har's trying to say is that if a german side (bayern for example) were offering the £21m in his clause an English side (lets say Liverpool) wouldn't have to be offering mega money compared to it, just better it by a few mill, say £25m. simplistic maybe but would that be the case if Lfc were interested?

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{Ed002's Note - It doesn't work like that.}

19 May 2019 13:57:58
It was irrelevant to anyone outside the their division, now they are in the champions league, it is irrelevant completely.

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19 May 2019 13:59:02
But surely if Leverkusen had n offer of £21m from Bayern on the table, no one else had bid and they were about to give the go ahead to accepting the offer. Then at the last minute a foreign side offered £25m would they not rather make the extra £4m while avoiding strenghtening their biggest obstacle in actually winning something.

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{Ed002's Note - No, it does not work like that. Move on.}

19 May 2019 15:02:54
Brandt's release clause did not apply to clubs outside of Germany, just like Bobbie's release clause at Hoffenhiem (14m euros/ pound, I'm not sure) did not apply to us when we signed him cos he cost 29m pound with all types of add-ons. How hard is this to comprehend, really?

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19 May 2019 15:06:48
Havertz has to be our No.1 target from Leverkusen anyway.

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19 May 2019 17:15:39
Little naby that's what I was trying to say, . Redwolf you ask how hard is it to comprehend? You've completely missed the point of my question.

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{Ed002's Note - So I will re-iterate, it really doesn't work like that at all.}

19 May 2019 17:34:49
Okay ed I'l take your word, thanks.

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19 May 2019 20:17:39
Har, Ed02 already said that the "release clause" does not apply to Liverpool in any way. Seems pretty straight-forward answer hence my question.

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19 May 2019 07:41:24
Morning Ed
when you have time could you do a comparison between james, westerveld and Mignolet.
Thank you.

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{Ed001's Note - added that to the list.}

19 May 2019 16:55:02
Easy - some decent attributes for all three but not a single one good enough in a team with ambitions to win the league. SW probably the better of the 3 in my opinion but only marginally so.

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19 May 2019 08:56:08
Liverpool are saying it will be a quiet summer but I'm guessing its tactical to avoid paying over inflated fees. City will improve and you can't sit still at the top. The finances of the club look excellent going into the summer after two consecutive runs to Champions league finals. The club also plan on raising over £100m this summer with fringe player sales. Dominic Solanke joined Bournemouth for £19m in January while Danny Ings will complete his £20m move to Southampton this summer after a season long loan. Liverpool will also be saving a lot in wages department by letting the likes of Daniel Sturridge and Alberto Moreno leave on free transfers. Nathaniel Clyne, Simon Mignolet, Rafael Camacho, Taiwo Awoniyi, Sheyi Ojo, Marko Grujic, and Ryan Kent are all for sale at the right price, the latter two have an outside chance of staying if they can really impress Klopp pre-season. Liverpool could also move on the likes of Dejan Lovren, Adam Lallana or even Xherdan Shaqiri depending on incomings. Not too long ago Divock Origi looked certain to be sold this summer but after some big performances Klopp has decided to offer him a new contract. Liverpool do not need much but a creative attacking midfielder who can cover the front 3 looks essential, City have 3-4 of those type players and if Liverpool get one in it could make all the difference. Cover at left back would be next on the list.

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19 May 2019 09:19:01
You have said migs is off, but said we are only buying an AM and LB?
If Lovren leaves we also need a CB.
We also need a RB.

So probably more incoming that you suggest.

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19 May 2019 12:21:46
Problem is w/ Origi singing and Brewster promised game time makes very difficult bringing any attacking player tho.

Again we're well stocked w/ midfielders and CB unless couple of midfielders leave and at least one CB leaves.

only fullbacks area is needed to be honest and that too milner if he stays can cover there w/ some youngsters getting chance there tho

don't forget we've achieved 97 points in the league and in couple of weeks will be playing a European final, that's how good this squad has done. Very little to improve there tho money has nothing to do w/ it. I'm just happy for the owners and our club getting financially strong where if needed we can dine w/ big boys 😊.

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19 May 2019 12:53:07
I think Origi should be moved on now we will never get as much for him as we will now. Brewster coming up into the first team squad I think we need to add a wide player with pace to rotate with Mane and Salah. As for the fullbacks with Milner staying for another year, We should give Adam Lewis a chance in pre season before we jump in for a left back not sure about right back I would rather keep Gomez away from there and stick to CB so would like a right back. Do think Lallana should be moved on but with OX back not sure how much we will miss him from the squad. But an attacking Midfielder would be nice to add a new dimension to are midfield. again a new Cb would be nice if we could move Lovren on as would be the last transfer window we would get decent money back for him to and as with Lallana to many injuries even with missing 3 months of the season Gomez played more games than them 2.

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19 May 2019 14:55:54
Good post. I don’t get involved with transfer fees, prefer to leave that to Ed2. In terms of people being sold, I am in agreement. Left back cover is needed, my personal choice is Ryan Sessegnon who can provide cover for Mane as well but whether he is attainable is another matter.

Attacking midfield who can provide cover for the front three is a no brainier for me in the mould of Julian Brandt. I was adamant we needed a right back but bit in the middle now as I feel we need a centre half, which might be a controversial decision due to how our defence performed. Van Dyke was fit all season, if he gets an injury and Gomez does then, well we are up s**ts creek. Gomez can provide cover for Arnold and it would allow both to have game time if a top centre back comes in. Also it would allow us in games that call for it to play three at the back.

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19 May 2019 15:10:06
OP, what Klopp said was that he does not see us making top (meaning expensive) signings this summer which means, he is trying to improve the quality of the squad hence why, he is looking for equal options at both FB positions, a no. 2 GK, a CB should Lovs leave, another midfielder if possible esp. if Milner and Lallana leave, and a forward who can play any of the front three positions (like a Brandt, Werner or recently linked, Depay) .

How much all these options will cost, I have no idea BUT to those pumping up Brewster, I suggest you pipe down and allow the kid to grow cos tho he is talented, he is unproven at this level, coming back from a dreadful injury and will need time learn the position. Origi can play out wide and in the CF position so he can fill in until Brewster learns the ropes cos CF is the most difficult position to play as a youngster.

I am saying this now to avoid people slating Brewster if he struggles initial (cos he will) just like they did Origi and almost ran him out of town cos they were not patient with him.

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{Ed025's Note - i totally agree on brewster red wolf..

19 May 2019 17:17:37
Well said Redwolf.

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