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29 May 2017 17:56:10
Well done to Danny Ward for promotion with Huddersfield hopefully he can stay on loan another year.

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29 May 2017 17:55:49
Well done Danny Ward! Well done Huddersfield!

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29 May 2017 17:54:59
Danny Ward and Huddersfield.
Congrats boys!

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29 May 2017 15:48:46
Just watching the play off final. Any chance of a sneaky bid for Ilori eds? I think he's what we've been missing for years! 😉.

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29 May 2017 16:57:50
Cheeky bid?

Does that mean that everything we saw before was a smokescreen?

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29 May 2017 17:37:07
Exactly! Not to be mistaken with the fella we had at Liverpool. That was Ilori's 3rd cousin's dog's vet's brother Llori.

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29 May 2017 17:58:43
Well done Danny Ward.

Crucial save again, just at the time where they needed it.

Having Huddersfield in the prem can only be a good thing for us. Hopefully with Klopp and Wagner's relationship it could lead to some successful top quality loan spells for some of our guys. Also some of their play is easy on the eye.

Look forward to seeing them more in the Prem next year. Fingers crossed they stick with Danny Ward and we loan him for another year, would be another great loan for him/ us.

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29 May 2017 18:21:42
The rules may have changed, but I think you can only have one long-term loan from a team in the same division as you (in the EPL anyway), and Danny Ward, having been there for a year, seems the obvious choice. although I think it'll be a permanent transfer rather than a loan.

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29 May 2017 22:18:30
Well we xouls agree some favorable transfers will biy backs.

Say 1 mil for ojo. 3 mil buy back.

Its a way of getring around loans. Not sure its completely legal haha.

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29 May 2017 15:25:05
With the second podcast not out yet, I think it would be fun to try and guess ed1s player of the season.

He has said its not lallana, He has been critical or clyne, matip, klavan, lovren and at times milner so they are out.

He has been critical of migs but praised him lately but don't see it being him so he's out.

He said it would surprise us and that rules out couts, mane and his man crush firmino as they wouldn't surprise us.

Hendo not been fit for most of the season or studge so they out too.

origi has been hit and miss and not a key player so he out.

For me that leaves can and gini, However ed has wanted gini to get into the box more so I rule him out.

So I predict eds player of the season is can.

Am I right ed?

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29 May 2017 16:23:25
My guess would be you are wrong. Gini would be more likely. He hasaid been brilliant, so steady and solid and in control in most games. Had one off game when he was played deeper because of injuries but about it. Scored so absolutely crucial goals too. Can't wait for that moment he scores an away goal.

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29 May 2017 18:07:14
Can hasn't played well in enough games IMO.
I think Wijnaldum is fair, but if it's really going to surprise us then maybe it is Can.
Wijnaldum has been pretty consistent all season.

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29 May 2017 20:11:47
It's Henderson in his new deeper role and how well he adapted.

Although injured, he contributed massively throughout the first half of the season, and the team missed their Captain, who showed a maturity beyond his years.

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29 May 2017 21:51:12
maybe james milner? played almost every game at a fairly consistent level in an unfamiliar position in a very professional manner.

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30 May 2017 00:06:55
Gini had more assists than Countinho last season. He's got to be in with a shout. Hope he continues to get better for us.

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29 May 2017 15:22:26
sorry for the long post but would like to hear an opinion from ed002 that i really appreciate. I would like to know how do you see our current squad and potential and what would need to change in order for Liverpool to be competitive in league. not just on a transfer plan but also in general managment. it is obvious we need 2 starting fullbacks, one starting midfielder as our captain seems to be questionable with his injury. center back would be nice also. I was wondering what would be 5 players ed002 would try to get given the price and aviabilty that would improve liverpool first eleven but also fit in longterm project. Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool need a left back, a left sided forward and a striker. After that a goalkeeper if Ward doesn't return, a centre back if Gomez goes, a replacement for Lucas but that may restrict opportunities for Grugic, and then possibly a right back.

If the club are looking to Keita as a Lucas replacement, and it seems they are, someone needs to make way in the first 11 as Lucas has not been a starter. Assuming a LB arrives, it frees up Milner to provide cover on either side.

I still think help is needed with the coaching and a defensive coach might make sense.}

29 May 2017 16:14:29
Why the need for a GK Ed002? Think Migs and Karius should get another chance plus Ward who should have the opportunity of showing of he is good enough. GK is the least of our worries (for now) .
Agree about the rest though.

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{Ed002's Note - So you think Ward would come back and be third choice? Or that the player Klopp announced to the world as his number one would be happy as third choice after the fans got on his back - and remember with the very fickle fans they spent 80% of the season trashing Mignolet as well.}

29 May 2017 16:52:03
I think it perfectly okay for a manager to change his mind depending on the circumstances; hence why Mignolet took over as first choice after Karius struggled initially. I would rather a manager who can see the need for a change rather than someone who is oblivious to it.

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{Ed002's Note - The point is you don't give commitments to players and you don't say stuff like that in the public domain.}

29 May 2017 18:09:27
I think it's pretty clear Kloppo messed up with Karius.
He wasn't ready to start in the premier league and he shouldn't have said anything to the public.
The number 1 will be the goalkeeper who is selected on the day - end of.

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29 May 2017 18:18:16
It's okay to change your opinion when given new facts.

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{Ed002's Note - He made an embarrassment of himself - "new facts" or not.}

29 May 2017 18:38:10
Karius made a couple of mistakes, far less than migs when he started for us and was thrown on the scrapheap. He is a good keeper who needs time to adjust like every player that comes to the prem. He will get pre season to prove himself again and he will eventually be no1 if klopp has not dented his confidence too much.

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{Ed025's Note - i dont think he was exactly thrown on the scrapheap IAC, he was taken out of the firing line by klopp for his own good, myself i think klopp got it right mate..

29 May 2017 19:24:50
Klopps decision to drop karius was spot on, and I agree with ed2, making those sort of claims can come back to seriously bite you. As it where I don't think it's that much of a big deal, the management team watch karius in training all the time and there must be a reason why he couldn't earn back his spot. Every time I've seen him before a match in warm up he doesn't look to have the makings of a top keeper but that's obviously no way to judge a player. I think ward leaves to some capacity in the summer (hopefully another loan) and then karius and mignolet are given another crack at competeting against each other. I would not be saying that had mignolet season turned out differently. I guess the replacement for ward ed2 is talking about is just another regular 3rd choice keeper like manninger was, not someone that will be ahead of karius or migs if they where to stay.

I think priorities should be: LB, CB, CM and a forward that can play out wide or centrally. RB and GK are possibilities depending on what happens with our current players.

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29 May 2017 19:45:53
Sorry ed i don't agree, you are one always saying players are too soft and are molly coddled. He was not given a chance to prove himself, just one day he was good enough and the next he was spinning his heels with john atcheburg being thrown about by bodybags for the rest of the season. Sounds like the scrapheap to me mate, yea it was a good decision for lfc but not for karius. What if man u had done the same with de gea when he had a few howlers, do you think he would have been the player he is now, no it toughened him up and he became the best keeper in the world. Not saying karius will reach his level before i get castigated for that but he could certainly become a very good keeper if given the time to develop and play games, how can you learn from your mistakes if you are never given the chance to make any?!

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{Ed025's Note - his chance will come again IAC, he was having a very uncomfortable time of it and if he had been left in then it could have destroyed him mate, because our opinions differ does not make one of us wrong and the other right they are just different opinions..

29 May 2017 20:50:26
I know ed, its why i like debating with the eds because you don't take it personal like. Ultimately klopp was proved right because migs came in and did a solid job. Its just as an ex keeper it irks me when keepers are not at least given a chance to prove themselves after a cock up. Like i ssid migs had numerous chances but hay we will see how that story pans out next season.

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{Ed025's Note - we will IAC and i fancy that karius will be a regular starter next season, he is highly rated by klopp and he really wants it mate..

29 May 2017 22:27:42
Mignolet has had a great second half of the season, and I think we can be unnecessarily harsh on him. It's not like he wants to make silly mistakes! But hasn't he done this before? Stepped up when he might lose his spot and then get complacent again when the number one spot looks like it's his. Karius had a dodgy start, showed his lack of experience and of course everyone notices because he is a keeper, and he was getting a lot of flack for it. However, you have to question when the last time we had a decent performing goalkeeper was. Pepe under Rafa? Surely our GK coach (however much of a nice bloke Achterberg is) must have a part to play in this? I really want things to work out for Karius, so I hope he can have a fresh start next season and we can all get behind him.

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29 May 2017 14:41:14
Cant believe the VVD knockers. As a liverpool fan on the south coast and having seen him play on approx. 10 games he has pace power and great in the air. I have been praying for us to sign him. Believe me he is the real deal.

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29 May 2017 15:12:02
Its not people knocking him its more to the point the figure being branded about. On top of that, our interest isn't there and we have the 4 centre backs already at the club, 2 of which Klopp purchased.

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29 May 2017 15:20:20
I would have hoped that he'd be quite fit being a professional footballer.

If he is undisciplined enough to have go flabby moobs (or "VVD Knockers") then I do not think he is the signing for us.

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29 May 2017 18:11:08
To be fair Zed, Firmino looked like Mr Blobby's fatter brother 12 months ago then lost it over pre-season. Can't be healthy but he did it and never stops running.

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29 May 2017 19:33:18
I don't see the problem with having 5 centre backs considering we never had a stable back line because of consistent injuries, and we will be competing in Europe next season. Even though I'd prefer 4, but those 4 have to be players that will play when the opportunity arises. the opportunity to play Gomez was there quite a few times this season but we never got to see him, same with ojo and a few others. Klavan is basically as good as a 4th choice centre back at this level and would be my choice to leave ahead of Gomez but Klopp apparently doesn't see it that way. Lovren would be my 3rd choice, this season he was hot and cold as per usual and got injured on numerous occasions meaning we had no chance of a stable Cb pairing. Matip had a slightly better season than lovren and would be my 2nd choice but was unreliable at times as well. We need to bring in someone better than what we have already. I would love that to be sahko but that won't happen and we should make decent money from his transfer. Whether that player is vvd or not I'm not so sure. Seems a good player but at that price, no chance.

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29 May 2017 14:24:44
Eds would you expect our Strikers next season to be Ings Origi Firmino and another arrival or might Ings or Origi be moved on?

Also on the striker front has there been any development with Luan at this stage please? Can we forget about Dembele altogether?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing at all has changed - I have explained over and over about Luan and Dembele. I have explained the club has made no efforts to sell Ings or Origi. Asking the same questions and repeatedly asking has anything changed really doesn't help.}

29 May 2017 15:48:20
Ok ed fair enough. Sorry.

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29 May 2017 19:37:33
Ings should probably get fit and go out on loan, that would be the best thing for him and the club. Origi should stay especially with Sturridge likely to go. At times I feel like Sturridge is just a complete lost cause unfortunantly, at other times I feel maybe (even with his recurring injuries) he'd still contribute something worth keeping. At the end of the day, if we get a decent replacement then I'd be happy to let him go. It's sad but we have to move onwards and upwards.

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29 May 2017 13:55:09
Why does Huddersfield vs. Reading godly at Wembley feel like Liverpool vs. Manchester United?

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29 May 2017 15:47:23

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29 May 2017 16:01:46
Wagner (Klopp link) v Staam (ManU link)

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29 May 2017 10:24:42
Hi Ed's 001 and Eds 002. Realistically and all joking aside do you see Liverpool challenging consistently for the Premiership title over the next 3-5 years bearing in mind the colossal spending power of United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal and now Spurs?

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{Ed002's Note - They will try like all of the others but they will face a tough time. Each of these clubs will have the same ideas - and you never know, perhaps West Brom or Everton might leap to the fore and challenge. What I do think is likely is that you won't see one side dominate year-on-year.}


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