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11 Dec 2017 17:07:20
I don't think Mane was at fault yesterday for not passing it but he was at fault for not hitting the target and scoring it. How many times do players refuse to take the easier option and go for glory themselves. When a player scores no one cares if someone was in a better position. It wasn't long ago we were moaning about the chances Salah was missing. If Mane was doing this on a regular basis then I think he would rightly deserve the flack but I reckon this will make him a better player and his brilliance will be winning matches again.

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11 Dec 2017 18:14:20
If I was Klopp I would be furious with him. Make that pass and everyone calls him a genius for having the courage to rotate in a big game and still getting the win. As it is it didn’t happen, Salah missed an open net with his header, and Lovren needlessly gave the opposition player an opportunity to look for a pen, and now Klopps getting a pelters for things he could in no way shape or form control. That team put out was good enough to win, should of won and should be ashamed that they let down Klopps trust in them. All this said, it happens and we move on. We are on the up and will get better. Bored of pointing out the failings in our team currently as we all know what they are, just hope they get sorted in the next 7-8 months.

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11 Dec 2017 18:14:42
Congrats to Mo salah on his African Player of the Year. Beat Mane into Second place with Naby Keita also placing in the top 5.

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11 Dec 2017 18:45:52
Congrats to Salah.

1. There is a time when you take it and when you pass it to someone who is in a better position and what Mane did was very unintelligent to take that shot.

2. He should stop some theatrics that he did when he was fouled. Yes, he was fouled by Everton player and he received a card for that but the way Mane was turning on the ground, I would have given an yellow for him as well.

Cheers.

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11 Dec 2017 18:51:39
Mane was greedy. He should passed to any of the three players waiting. Maybe if you are 3 or 4 up and the game is out of sight but at 1-0 it was not the time. He should have put the team first before personal glory.

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11 Dec 2017 18:55:49
That could explain why Mane was being selfish as he was priolly trying to win the award by upstaging Salah. Hope all is done now if so and we can move on cos Mane has never been known to be selfish until now at LFC. Do your job and we win. The day that stops happening then we are in trouble and Klopp can't control any of that on the touchline during games.

Jayden, I agree with you on the Mane issue to some extent. In that position, if you don't square it, YOU'D BETTER SCORE cos if you don't, this is what happens and you will get the blame. He put himself in that position and is getting the business as he should cos our front line is great cos of it's unselfish attitude. Cou, Bobbie or Salah would have squared that ball. All in all, we live, learn and move on to WBA which will be another tough nut to crack.

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11 Dec 2017 19:27:24
Gents I'm not saying what he did was right. Personally I believe he should have passed it as well but he took the gamble (as a lot of forwards would have) and it didn't come off. Some of our players are mercifully defended after years of mistakes and below average performaces. Over the last year and a half Mane has been one of if not our best player. Hopefully he's learnt the error of his way.

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12 Dec 2017 08:11:58
Spot on, Jay. Mane has been great for us and his mess-up will never change that fact. Hopefully, he learns from this and we can move on as he is a great player and I would not swap him for anyone else in the PL.

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11 Dec 2017 15:14:43
Really think Andy Robertson had a solid game against Everton, offers the same as Moreno going forward but more positionally and defensively aware. Should start.

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11 Dec 2017 16:00:14
Work in progress. I thought his crossing was poor, especially when under no pressure and his cross just sailed over everyone’s heads.

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11 Dec 2017 15:36:13
Neither good nor bad for me. He had little to do defensively, so it's hard to assess that part of his game. Going forward, he linked up around the box well enough, varied his runs a bit more than previously (he's used to staying right out on the touchline and whipping crosses, which showed up in his first couple of games for us) and skinned Rooney a couple of times in the first half, but he didn't deliver any threatening crosses.

But he's only 4 games into his LFC career and is clearly having to adapt his game. He should get a run of games in the next couple of weeks and we'll get a better chance to assess him.

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11 Dec 2017 15:38:55
I actually thought he didn't have a great game, he looks like he only has one trick in the final third and that's a back post cross. I really like the lad and was glad we signed him but I think he needs a bit more work on the training ground. He is better than Moreno at the back but Moreno is the better attacking player.

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11 Dec 2017 15:57:20
I loved his debut but thought his delivery was a bit poor against Everton. One of Solankes problems was I can’t remember a decent ball into the box he could attack with his head from either side.

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11 Dec 2017 16:50:20
I disagree Superred I thought he linked up with Milner and Mane around the box really well though his crossing did leave something to improve but agree that Coutinho tried to do it all himself when he came on you can hardly blame Robertson for that!

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11 Dec 2017 17:21:06
That's right. I was watching how he contain Lennon on right. There was moment that Lennon nearly went past him but Robertson stuck doggedly to task and the ball hit corner flag and was cleared by him.

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11 Dec 2017 17:29:29
Disagree with the "offers the same as Moreno going forward". I counted a number of very wayward crosses yesterday. Do think he adds more solidity in defending, but I think Moreno (this season's vintage, anyway) is closer to what we need than Robertson.

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11 Dec 2017 17:28:40
Coutinho doesn’t trust Robertson and I can understand why! How crossings were awful against a team that had no pace at all! I am afraid the boy won’t get many chances while phil is at the club! In fact I don’t remember our last left back who could beat his man!

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11 Dec 2017 17:49:54
On a positive note we don’t have Milner cutting back onto his right foot every time this season.

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11 Dec 2017 19:01:58
Spot on, Zed. There is no way that Robbo offers as much going forward as Moreno. No way. Moreno is well ahead of Robbo in that dept. and has better end product than him. Why? He has 3/ 4 assists this season. Also, Moreno has more variation in his crosses as he can ping one across goal now, cut the ball back the second time, and hang one up the 3rd time hence the defence does not know what he will do. Robbo has good shape on his crosses BUT does not seem to look for anyone in particular so it just sails over or accross goal with no one in sight. He has a lot to learn before he can dislodge Moreno esp. in the attacking dept.

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11 Dec 2017 19:04:04
The relationship between Coutinho and Robertson should have no bearing on whether Robertson starts long-term. As Coutinho is off in January/ Summer. Think the lad will work hard for the club and see a little bit of Steve Finnan in him!

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12 Dec 2017 08:12:58
Agreed, Fenton. He just needs to up his game and with Klopp's coaching and the right attitude, he will get there. Look at what Klopp has done with Moreno.

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11 Dec 2017 13:21:03
On a positive note. These days everyone loses their minds when we draw a game :-)

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11 Dec 2017 13:34:19
Which is the sign of an ambitious fan! I am not happy with a draw nor I am satisfied to be an Arsenal!

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11 Dec 2017 13:41:15
I see what you did there, Fitzy. Seems things are starting to change and we currently go into games expecting to win and that is down to the mentality that Klopp is instilling into the boys. There are times when it does not work BUT we know we are capable of winning games. Consistency is what we are trying to master now, slowly but surely, we'll get there.

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11 Dec 2017 13:44:11
Or the sign of progress. To your point nobody is satisfied with the result, but there is a way to express yourself in a way where you don't come across as bashing the team, and people who accept the draw as a draw and are not complaining as much as you.

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11 Dec 2017 14:07:21
Waqas a tean needs bashing if they deserve it. Yes it is more positive sign that we as fans are not happy with a draw. the most disapointing thing for me is firstly playing much better than our opposition and not getting the desired result and repeating that same mistake every 4-5 games. secondly fans being happy getting a point at home to a piss poor team and losing the perfect oppurtunity to gain some extra points on our rivals when they all dropped points. I feel a lot of Lfc fans have got use to the mediocracy and are happy just not to lose the game.

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11 Dec 2017 14:14:20
Fitzy, the problem is that the draws are coming too often, yes we are improving, but a million miles away from winning the Premiership .

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11 Dec 2017 14:31:01
Again nobody is satisfied with it! not complaining doesn't mean satisfaction, it means not complaining.

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11 Dec 2017 14:33:26
we are not a million miles from a title. we are a cb and gk away from a challenge. Everyone is miles off city and I think we are the 2nd best side in the league.

I feel mane is living in salah shadow, last year he would have passed and we would have won the game easy. Klopp has learned from last season and he has rested key players, I think we will have a strong 2nd half of the season and make ucl again.

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11 Dec 2017 14:43:10
i am enjoying seeing klavan play well, he looks one of the best cbs in the league atm.

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11 Dec 2017 14:57:11
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11 Dec 2017 15:38:19
Fitzy - we have 6 draws now this season and that's just in the PL. That's the worst Everton side I have witnessed at Anfield in years and we should have breezed past them.
You just can't legislate for errors like that. I feel that if we don't find a replacement for Lovren in January then his mistakes will cost us in the PL and also the CL.
How many more mistakes will Klopp allow him to get away with before he sees what everyone else is seeing,

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11 Dec 2017 19:02:41
Hi Supermane.

I think he sees it tbh. I also believe he decided last summer that what he had could get him back into the CL places. There were a few players he wanted that would bring his squad to a level of really challanging for the PL and CL. He didn't get them and so decided to wait rather than spending money on a player (s) going onto 5 year contracts that were not all that much better than he already had. Like it or not most top players don't yet see Liverpool as re established as a top European side. So we can't get them. When one comes along that could go to the top clubs but wants to come to Liverpool/ Klopp he will save his budget and wait for them (Keita, VVD) and take the flack in the mean time.
I've said it on here a few times. After 3 Summer transfer windows it will be Klopps team and all can judge him then. We can't buy a new team in a couple of windows like some of those we compete with. He must be patient and so should we, But he is getting there.

The start of the season was distrupted significantly. They are now on track. We will finish 2nd and won't fear anyone in the CL. Progress overall. YNWA.

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11 Dec 2017 19:48:39
So Supermane, do you think we should ditch Mane for his mistake? Or Salah for his? They were to blame for that yesterday just as much as Lovren. Mane probably more so. I’m not Lovren’s biggest fan but he was unlucky with that yesterday. The kid’s stepped in front of him and slowed to get contact before Tom Daleying it with a triple Pike and nailed the landing!

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11 Dec 2017 20:55:16
Ings
Lovren clumsily barged towards CL, raised his hands and put those hands on his back giving him an excuse to go down - an experienced international defender should know better
Call him clumsy at best incompetent at worst
Is this Lovrens first mistake
Have you forgotten Spurs
Penalty v Hoffenheim
He is a disaster waiting to happen.

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11 Dec 2017 13:02:07
We're against Porto.
Good draw but it will be a tough one.
I am confident in our success!
Does anyone have an in depth insight on Porto?
So we get to know our opponents more.

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11 Dec 2017 13:19:56
Matches played 4
W 2
D 2.

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11 Dec 2017 13:42:25
Porto are no pushovers and have been in the CL way more times than we have in the past 8 seasons so we must respect them as this will be no cake walk.

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11 Dec 2017 14:15:31
as long as we don't make too many changes, we should be winning this tie .

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11 Dec 2017 14:49:26
they have been in the ucl a lot coz there are only two teams in Portugal. three, I like the draw and really fancy us to get through over two legs.

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11 Dec 2017 15:16:23
BRover - by that logic, Celtic would be an awful team to get drawn against because they are in it every year without fail!

Take your point though they do more than just make up the numbers in pot 4, but they are probably the best team we could have hoped for (about equal to Basel, but with the added excuse for a week in the warm weather in February! ) .

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11 Dec 2017 18:51:30
Although I’m very happy with draw we got put off the potential opponents we could have drawn, Porto won’t be push overs and easy it’s rwally vital take them serious and most importantly get goal or two away from home, return leg at anfield is bonus I feel and so long we are up for the job and task I believe we are capable progressing.

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11 Dec 2017 19:03:53
That was funny, Hijkle as I did not even have Celtic in mind when I made that comment.

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11 Dec 2017 12:56:57
FC Porto on the CL draw. Not bad at all.

This end of the competition there are certainly no easy games but there are some easier than others and Porto falls into that pot.

Long wait until February now for the 1st tie, let's make sure we firm up a league position between now and then over a busy festive period 🤙🏼.

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11 Dec 2017 13:44:38
With you there, NK. Full focus should be on the PL for now ans we are picking up points of late with 17 taken out of 21 since the Spurs disaster. That shows our ability to bounce back and credit to Klopp and his squad for getting it done. A long way to go but there is more hope now than after the Spurs game. An unfortunate draw vs Everton changes none of these facts, all of which are positives.

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11 Dec 2017 14:50:54
I keep forgetting keita is coming next year. what a team we will have.

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11 Dec 2017 15:25:00
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11 Dec 2017 12:54:18
Karius to continue as our champions league keeper all the way to the final? Personally I'd keep him. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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11 Dec 2017 13:45:53
With you there, Crabby. He's kept 3 clean sheets and made one error (vs Spartak at Moscow) and kept us in the Seville game with a couple of top class saves as we are undefeated with him in goal.

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11 Dec 2017 14:21:09
Yupp hard to disagree there.

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11 Dec 2017 15:41:23
he is our bestkeeper, shame we have to wait until feb to see him play again.

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12 Dec 2017 06:10:42
His game is more suited to European football. Fewer high crosses, less physical confrontation in the box.
Klopp is using European games to build his confidence. Premier league is a different kettle of fish for him, there are no guarantees.

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11 Dec 2017 11:18:36
Good morning chaps.

Just like to say thanks for the selection Ed002.

I feel I have more weight on my shoulders making sure I don't let you down than I have in my current job! I promise not to let you down in defence!

Oh and I do have welsh heritage, partly because I'm welsh ;)

Come on Redmen cheer up.

Merry Christmas to all Ed's and Reds! Enjoy the holidays.

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11 Dec 2017 13:09:19
I will try not to embarrass you to much on the day smplfc :)

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11 Dec 2017 14:16:20
big ups my welsh bois out there, put the welsh pirlo sorry Joe Allen to shame out there.

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11 Dec 2017 17:00:05
Come on Welshmen.

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11 Dec 2017 12:43:19
At times your luck runs out! we had enough chances to put the game to bed for one reason or another we didn't.

That was a dodgy penalty on a good day, there is minimal contact forced by calvert lewin and the only problem from lovern is he is too tight to the player.

At times luck plays a huge part in a result and yesterday was that. Klopp cannot be blamed for team selection as we did create enough to win it. Last season when he wasnt rotating with a lighter game load, half this lot saying he made too many changes, were calling for his head coz of the amount of injuries we had.

The reaction here is way over the top, back the team in the busy period. No offence eds, the site is extremely informative about different aspects of the game and I love it, but god I hate this site every time we drop points, all the impulsive entitled little brats come out in numbers to nitpick every single thing, it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not.

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11 Dec 2017 13:52:11
Love your post, Waqas esp. the last paragraph. The consistent hair -on-fire reactions when we draw (not lost), is embarrassing and quite tiresome. It's like some of our fans know absolutely nothing about the game and that it is impossible to win all your games BUT you can try to win all of them and try to win most of hem, which we actually do. The scapegoating of x or y player or the manager w/ o having a clue about the preparation before the game, is just tiresome and boring. Get a grip!

We are 4th, 2 points from 3rd and 5 points from 2nd. Could anyone say that we would be here after the Spurs debacle when people were calling for Klopp's head? NO. So keep that in mind cos like it or not, we will drop points and as long as we give 100% in every game, that is all I can ask for. Up Da Pool!

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11 Dec 2017 12:12:22
Yesterday was the first match I’ve seen in a while after being away and, whilst the result was disappointing, it was a fascinating match.

Hindsight makes us all seem like geniuses but there was an air of hubris in Klopp’s team selection. I’ve long believed that Klopp has a level of arrogance in him, a belief that his ideas are better than everyone else’s (see his reaction to being told in the post match interview that the interviewer and pundits agreed with the penalty decision), his team selection reflected that. Liverpool’s recent (excellent) form convinced Klopp that he could pick any team and things would be fine. It’s easy to question Milner’s selection but the bigger question is Solanke. Solanke has tremendous good will at the moment but a lot of fans have expectations of the player which aren’t really justified by anything he’s in done in a red shirt so far. Yesterday he was ineffective, he wasn’t creating anything himself and he wasn’t making space for our other players. This was a real problem as Allardyce’s team was doing exactly what was expected, they played deep with great discipline and Solanke wasn’t capable of troubling them. For all our domination of play Salah’s goal was the only time we put Pickford under pressure, he had an easy day at the office.

As for Allardyce he set up exactly as we all expected and he was rewarded with a point for it, why he doesn’t get more respect for being so good at what he does I’ll never know. The penalty was Everton’s only chance to score but when a game plan is built around taking limited chances then you have to give the away team credit. A lot of people are making excuses about that penalty but it was the correct decision to give, it doesn’t matter if the lad went down easy or not, it matters what Lovren did and his actions gave Calvert-Lewin an excuse to go down. If the penalty hadn’t been given it would have been a case of Lovren getting away with it rather than the correct result.

As for the rest of the team I thought Gomez had an excellent game, the limited defending he had to do was excellent and his play going forward was dynamic. At the start of the season fans were excited by TAA but Gomez is leagues ahead of his rival at the moment. I was surprised to see people having a go Henderson, he had an good game, what his detractors fail to understand is that he’s doing the job that Klopp wants him to do rather than the one fans want. He is there to recycle possession and he is hugely reliable in that role. He’s got the ability to burst forward or to go for the killer pass but that’s not his job. I was pleased to see Ings get a run out, it will be interesting to see if that was a ‘putting him in the shop window’ exercise or whether Klopp is bringing him into the first team, on paper he's the perfect understudy to Bobby.

What we mustn’t forget is that we’ve been excellent since the Spurs game, we’re unbeaten, we’ve dragged ourselves up the table and, on current form, we’re the best of the rest after City. As I alluded to above, I do have some problems with Klopp but I do believe that when he gets it right Liverpool are sensational, sadly yesterday wasn’t one of those times.

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11 Dec 2017 12:31:53
if mane had passed when he had 3 players free, we go in 2-0 up and kloppps line up never gets questioned, his only mistake was bringing off salah imo.

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11 Dec 2017 12:40:25
Putney, you are using the very same hindsight reasoning you are criticizing. Klopp has been rotating for weeks now and it has worked and the results bear that out. So if that is the case, my question for you is was he arrogant when he was doing this rotation thing then or was he arrogant now cos both of those cannot be true at the same time?

Also, all managers are arrogant even those who haven't won a sausage to their name. Pep, Mou make Klopp like a choir boy in the arrogance dept. as they apologize for nothing BUT when Klopp seems arrogant, some start getting triggered and insecure. There was NO arrogance in his selection as he picked the team he knew was fresh and ready to give 100% in the game as it was a rivalry game and you cannot keep fielding the same team during this busy period as Conte has realized after his loss vs WH. So if Conte was moaning about tiredness, by that standard, Klopp was right to rotate so as to mitigate against that, right or do the rules change cos it is Klopp?

Also, Had Everton battered us then your point would be valid. They did not so it is not. We were on top from start to finish and would have been out of sight had mane not done a boo-boo. The lineup had nothing to do with Mane having a boo boo. The lineup had nothing to do with a ref getting conned by a diving player. Those for me, were the two facts that influenced the game. Not the lineup or any arrogance (or lack thereof, IMO) .

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11 Dec 2017 12:42:07
Putney, it may seem churlish after your excellent post but I never thought I would see the words "Henderson" and "burst" in the same paragraph.

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11 Dec 2017 12:50:11
I don't believe Klopp is in anyway responsible for yesterday's result. The team he picked blew Everton away, and other than scoring more and conceding a ridiculous penalty that was an absolute walk in the park.
There are players at the club who need replacing to take us to the next level. I'm not klopps biggest fan, not by a long way but his players decisions are costing him severly.

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11 Dec 2017 13:09:42
I think the decision to play dominic solanke was the most logical. He is a tall target man. When you play a deep lying defence you need a target man to aim crosses at. Solanke played well and showed good touches but the crosses into him weren't great. The midfield was a problem for me. I love Henderson and he played well. Milner didn't offer much and Oxlade is ok but I would not trust him to be the creative force in the midfield. Countinho should have been given that role and Can in for Milner but it's Klopp's decision and maybe he just wanted to rest players to keep them fresh. I agree you should not be doing this against your rivals though.

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11 Dec 2017 13:14:47
" I don't believe Klopp is in anyway responsible for yesterday's result. "

Sorry, you're wrong, the manager is responsible for all the results, that's his main responsibility.

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11 Dec 2017 13:16:35
Hi all, thanks for all your responses. To expand on your points.

I didn't mention the Mane chance as I think it's less relevent than most people are making out. If he'd passed it was by no means a guaranteed goal. I prefer to talk about what did happen rather than what might have happened.

As for whether Klopp was responsible for the result I have no doubt he was. The selection was wrong, the set up was wrong and the substitutions we wrong. If we'd got a result of would have been in spite of Klopp's plan rather than because of it.

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11 Dec 2017 13:28:06
Brover, to respond to you directly. My hindsight quip was just banter, Klopp's selection was questioned heavily before the game and the result showed that questioning was justified. Klopp wasn't arrogant to rotate, he was arrogant in who he chose to rotate. Allardyce would have been delighted to see Solanke brought in and, whilst I know he can't play every match, we sorely missed Coutinho's threat from deep.

I believe your wrong about Pep and Mourinho, I think their self belief is born out by their trophy cabinets, Klopp can't say the same. When I get time I'll write a post about Klopp and how sometimes's he's his own worst enemy.

Your also wrong that we were on top all match. We had all the possession but that's a different thing. Football's about scoring goals and we had few opportunities to do that. On balance we were better than Everton but we didn't batter them.

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11 Dec 2017 14:29:04
Thank you for your response, Putney. First of all, Cou had a knock and was not fit to start that game so there is that. You may think the selection was wrong BUT I disagree cos as I mentioned, Conte moaned about his boys being tired during their loss to WH so is it not rotation that could mitigate against all that? Also, Klopp has been rotating for weeks and to great success so again, was he right for rotating when it worked or was he wrong when on the odd case now, it did not? You did not answer that question which I don't mind as logically, both those statements cannot be right at the same time.

As for the arrogance thing, you may be right on one level BUT like it or not, Klopp has won trophies in his career against all odds, beating Bayern to win leagues and Cups and his way of playing got him the reputation he deserves. No one gave him a damn thing. He earned it from scratch. Klopp had the likes of Arsenal, Bayern, Real (rumours) and the great Man Utd wanting him and he rejected all of them including Fergie. You don't get those clubs after you if you do not have the resume and trophies to boot. You cannot belittle his resume just to make your argument sound better. That is unfair.

Those managers you mentioned respect him a whole lot (you should hear how Pep talks about Klopp) as he is the one who has beaten each of them the most. So why can he not be arrogant and believe in his methods cos they have actually worked for his career? My issue is that you claim he is arrogant and I disagree and shown why.

Pep and Mou have have rarely apologized for a things they say to the media no matter how ridiculous it is BUT Klopp does apologize cos he is an honorable man and has no grudges with anyone (listen to Ralph Honigstien who has chronicled Klopp's career) . Do not conflate that with him not being arrogant as every manager to some extent, is. Love your post, Putney. keep them coming.

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11 Dec 2017 14:35:24
in my opinion, Kloppy was arrogant in that he made six changes to the line up,
there were as we all know two Derbies yesterday, how many changes did the other three managers make, he changed our midfield way too much, Big Sam must have been smiling when he saw our team selection,
Kloppy, makes far too many basic errors,
yes I fully understand rotating players, keeping the team fresh, I saw a stat that says Kloppy has made the most changes in the Prem,
not being from England, I think that he does not realise how important winning the Derby means to the fans,
for me Kloppy will not win us the League, he will get us as high as third place, that's all .

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11 Dec 2017 15:47:15
Nailed it in one redhead.

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11 Dec 2017 19:12:09
Happy, Klopp made it a policy to rotate during this busy period and it has worked. The mistake you are making is that you are too hung up on The derby and what it means to the fans which I sense, you are prolly implying that he did not play his best team cos he looked past Everton. Klopp has feasted on Everton since he arrived here and he is not about to risk the team's future this season to prove a point that he cares about this or that game.

Klopp expects to win every game regardless of the team he put out. It may look wierd to the fans BUT to him in the end, beating Everton and not making top 4 will do us no good. The team he put out was good enough to win and created enough chances to win as Everton were dire. Mane fluffed his lines and the ref got conned itno giving a poor excuse of a penalty. The lineup did not influence any of those facts so it is just a false narrative in my book. Mane squares the ball, 2-0 and the penalty is a none issue. Do the job and we are home and dry. Mane did not do that so here we are. Cheers, mate.

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11 Dec 2017 11:25:09
Good draw for reds and city Seville will beat united Chelsea could surprise us Tottenham have toughest draw against juve let's hope we take advantage of the draw.

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11 Dec 2017 11:37:06
Who do you think Sevilla will beat Man United? I wasn’t that impressed with them.

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11 Dec 2017 11:40:47
Yes getting Porto was a good draw. Let’s hope we don’t do anything daft and progress without too much drama, but then that wouldn’t be our way would it!

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11 Dec 2017 12:05:28
Very very good draw. Anfield second leg, hope we do the business and win. Must field our Strongest team possible in both ties.

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11 Dec 2017 12:12:59
Best possible draw we could get. No excuses for Klopp and Co. Porto are one of the weaker teams left in the competition and we need to take advantage of that.

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11 Dec 2017 12:36:58
We will only go through if we approach the tie professionally. Get complacent thinking its an easy tie and it could turn out to be a banana skin.

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11 Dec 2017 12:42:10
Porto is not the worst draw we could have gotten as they do not travel well. But at home in front of that crowd, they are deadly and have players like Abubakar and Brahimi along with Danilo who are very good. We just have to negotiate the first leg well, get a goal at least and then come back to Anfield and finish the job.

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11 Dec 2017 12:55:05
There is no reason for us not to go through to the next round there.

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11 Dec 2017 14:37:07
Team selection?

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