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18 Oct 2018 23:27:11
What happened to divock origi eds I thought he had potential when he came here are Everton after him is he just not good enough.

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{Ed001's Note - he just never got the run of games he needed to really develop and had a few issues on loan.}

19 Oct 2018 05:38:23
Shame about the lad, I don't know what went on in the background but I really thought he'd make it with us. Same goes for Solanke though, still very young of course but will he make it with us? I have my doubts personally. I think both players have a lot to offer but who you going to take off for one of them? that's the biggest issue imo especially when you have an in form Sturridge on the bench, the poor buggers don't stand a chance, just bad timing because of how quality the squad is at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - the issue with Origi is his loan move did not work out, for a number of reasons. That has left him on the outside looking in.}

19 Oct 2018 05:55:09
I've seen a few reports recently, he's being linked with a few clubs what are apparently interested, do you know of any truth to this rumour mate? sounds like he's on his way out to me, which tbh sounds like the best course of action for both the club and the player.

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{Ed001's Note - we tried to sell him in the summer and he is still available. Though they are not against the right loan either.}

19 Oct 2018 06:05:02
Interesting, thanks very much Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - personally I would look to sell Solanke of the two, but there you go.}

19 Oct 2018 06:24:28
I'd agree with that because I see Origi being a good player given half the chance (which he's never going to get at Liverpool), he certainly has the potential there as does Solanke, just not for us.

I must admit though, seeing the youngsters fail at our club really does do my head in a bit because so many of them never get the chance they deserve, having said that, when you have a quality squad like ours, how can they get their chance. We have young Wilson out on loan who looks very good but would he get anywhere near our team? I highly doubt it. Fingers crossed for him, he is one I have high hopes for. Time will tell I suppose.

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{Ed001's Note - I personally think Solanke was a mistake. He is a good player but I see nothing in him to suggest he is good enough for Liverpool.}

19 Oct 2018 07:11:03
Have to feel sorry for both players there careers are just put on hold for maybe years. Think you have to be very special to be able get into forward position at the club.

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19 Oct 2018 08:18:57
Think we could use Origi as cover for the wings (I’m sure I read once that that’s his preferred position) . I still think the lad has something to offer.

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19 Oct 2018 15:11:32
I think it was you Ed001 who said something similar to this and best describes the Solanke situation. While playing with the second teams and/ or U18's or U23's, he was physically intimidating and imposing and could therefore be effective. But at the highest level, everyone is physically at a similar or superiror level and he is consequently having the adaptation problems.

Since we are on the subject of physical presence and development, Ed001, do you think Woodburn is having similar problems? Is his growth affecting his ability to play football with the same effectiveness as when he first played games for the first team as a 17 year old? Just wondering.

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{Ed001's Note - yes it was me about Solanke but I don't see the same issue with Woodburn who was always small.}

19 Oct 2018 15:58:47
Thanks Ed001 👍.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome. It is, imo, probably why Woodburn has had to develop such good technical skills and tight control. He has always been small and slight, so can be knocked about and needs the ability to keep hold of the ball while being knocked all over the place. It should help him in the future.}

19 Oct 2018 17:52:19
Sure, Ed001. We've seen examples of small scrawny kids (Messi, Zico and Zola come to mind) who developped enough technical skills to be able to overcome their physical "disadvantages".

Do you think Keita is too small for the EPL? Seen him get pushed around and off the ball, a bit.

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{Ed001's Note - no I don't. He is a similar physique to Kante, small but wiry. Even so, if you are not prepared to face the physicality present, it can take time to adjust. I think he will be fine, once he does adjust.}

19 Oct 2018 18:58:39
I thought that when we got both Kieta and Fabino, the midfield would be sorted, but I didn't factor in the adjustments the Ed has mentioned, but they will come good, both are great players .

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19 Oct 2018 19:45:59
Keita seems to be struggling to adapt a little bit but what a bloody player he is, I've seen enough of him to know he will make it here, I see him being just as good as the best (Kante) . As everybody knows, it can take a player upto even a couple of years to adapt to a new club/ league, I don't think it'll take that long for Keita, I reckon by the end of the season people will be looking at him and saying 'wow' because he is capable of greatness.

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20 Oct 2018 16:31:58
I hope Woodburn stays and gets a chance in the end and doesn’t end up like Suso who had to leave to get the proper management/ direction to thrive and come into his own elsewhere.

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18 Oct 2018 19:50:22
Not been on for a while Ed. Sorry if I've missed all the posts covering it but how's our injury crisis in reality? No Mane, Keita, Salah, van Dyke?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any injury crisis. Mane has hurt his thumb but that does not impact his game. Keita has an issue the club has yet to comment on. There is nothing wrong with Salah or Van Dijk.}

18 Oct 2018 21:40:21
The fans are having a crisis about an injury crisis that is not a crisis.
Our squad this season has a lot of quality in depth, even if all them players missed a game we have the quality in reserve for it not to matter too much.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree mikey, and your next 2 opponents are very easy meat..

18 Oct 2018 22:34:06
Van Dyke? Is she in the women’s team?

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18 Oct 2018 23:31:44
I didn’t know Dick’s nephew had signed for Liverpool.

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19 Oct 2018 06:12:06
Great. So if both our matchday keepers sustain an injury in the 90 minutes, we can't put Mane in goal. Sounds like potentially a major crisis there.

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{Ed001's Note - argggghhhhh!!!!! Now I am panicking, quick call the FA and arrange an emergency loan of 7 goalkeepers for the bench....}

18 Oct 2018 14:13:48
How's the article comparing our current squad with the 08/ 09 squad coming along Ed?
Can't wait for the game on the weekend, feels like this international break has gone on forever again!

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{Ed001's Note - do you mean this one?

18 Oct 2018 15:42:07
Great article Tris.

We will no doubt be accused of having failing memories (esp you :-P) but I can honestly say I've not felt as confident watching us play as I vaguely remember I did during the end of our golden era. Given I Was 13 when we last won the league, those memories are very hazy, but this confidence in the team is both very satisfying and a little bit scary!

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{Ed001's Note - agreed mate, it does feel like the closest to glory since that time.}

18 Oct 2018 17:04:53
Fantastic article Ed001, really enjoyed that. I think in sports in general, but particularly football, people tend to look at era’s with rose tinted glasses. But I thought you were fair throughout.

I’d probably go with Robertson over Aurelio as I have a hard time looking past his fitness issues, but as you aptly pointed out this was a comparison between the teams at their best. I mentioned the other day that I thought the biggest difference between the squads was the quality in wingers, really just goes to show. Though I do wonder what Torres could have done with better service. Would love to have Gerrard and Xabi in the current squad.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, glad you enjoyed. It was hard choosing between them but today's team is a whole squad of quality whereas that was 7or 8 and then fillers.}

18 Oct 2018 17:12:11
Thanks Ed! Don’t know how I missed that, have a good one.

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{Ed001's Note - I did it during the international window so it wasn't long ago.}

18 Oct 2018 17:51:40
Nabil El Zhar scored recently in Leganes 2-1 win over Barcelona. I was surprised to see that he is still playing.

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{Ed001's Note - he has scored a few recently, it woke me up as well, I had completely forgotten about that waste of money. He was one of our highest paid players ever when we signed him.}

18 Oct 2018 18:01:33
Was this article posted up on the site Ed because I don't remember it mate? maybe it's just old age and I've already forgot about it! Either way, fantastic article as always, keep them coming mate, quality.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, well I posted it on the thread that reminded me about it, I don't know if the autolink generated as well. Maybe it didn't work then, I never thought to check.}

18 Oct 2018 18:11:17
Really enjoyed that. Thanks edd 1 bravo.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers neggy glad to hear that. Though that was a positive comment be careful!! ;-)

18 Oct 2018 18:26:51
Ah it might be just me not remembering Ed mate lol memory like a sieve at times!

I must ask Walter, are you feeling well? a positive comment! does this mean we're changing you mate? slowly but surely making you into a believer! ;)

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18 Oct 2018 20:01:16
Hi Ed001, I know that Kuyt isn't a quality player, but he makes up for it with his working off the socks and has some good finishing skills. I would also think that Benyaoun is another good small player.

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{Ed001's Note - Benayoun was excellent but Rafa kept him on the fringes of the team far too much, understandable as his best position was off the striker and Gerrard played there. If Gerrard hadn't thrown his toys out of the pram about playing on the right, where he had his best season, then Benayoun would have played behind Torres and excelled more I think.}

18 Oct 2018 20:22:40
Loved Benayoun as a player. Not only his talent and ability BUT most of all, his work rate, work ethic and relentless attitude to the cause. Great player and a gentleman.

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18 Oct 2018 20:46:11
Brilliant stuff ed, can't wait to read it. Thank you very much.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

18 Oct 2018 21:00:24
Very interesting article, thanks Ed001.
I missed that first time around too somehow.
One thing not mentioned, in favour of the 09 team, was a more even spread of goals around the respective teams.
09’s defence scored a very decent amount, whilst Gerrard in midfield was a huge contributor.
Our team now is very reliant on the front three, as we’ve seen. We really need the other parts of the team to start adding goals too.
Having said that, today’s team is chock full of pace all over, and I think they’d be too much for the 09 boys perhaps.

Add Gerrard, Alonso and Torres to today’s squad and it could well win the League.
Or add Van Dijk, Mane and Salah to 09’s and that would have too!?
Hey ho.

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{Ed001's Note - let's hope we have enough to win it without those 3.}

18 Oct 2018 21:29:51
Brilliant read and analysis, Ed. I had posted on an earlier thread on this same issue and w/ o even blinking, I said that this team is better than the '09 team, hands down esp. now that we have a better GK, defence and depth in the team. However, the way you analysed both team (awash with pace) in the article was pin-point and bar the midfield (no one can argue with Xabi and SG) of the 0'09 team, Klopp's team is way better in near every other dept. I mean, imagine Carra, Skrtel, Hyppia (the later two were great), going against the relentless movement and guile of Salah, Bobbie and Mane? That would be epic.

Also, Rafa only had Utd to contend with, just as BR only had City to contend with and they screwed up mainly due to their arrogance and ego (esp. BR) BUT the bar is WAY higher for Klopp now cos he has near 4 teams to contend with hence, his margin for error is minute. Hope he can succeed were the others failed. YNWA!

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{Ed001's Note - 4 teams? Surely it is only City to contend with?}

18 Oct 2018 22:32:11
City, Chelsea. and ourselves as our main challenges to the title in my opinion. If we keep our heads and teams start attacking city I think we’ll be grand. Could be a great season. Regardless, second season in a row with heart in my mouth - that’s what football is about.

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18 Oct 2018 22:54:36
Not sure if it was mentioned when comparing now with 08/09, after 8 games we were joint top with Chelsea on 20 points and united were on 14 points, just one more point than they have now.

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18 Oct 2018 23:33:11
Showed how hood rafa was though! Love the bloke.

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18 Oct 2018 22:41:50
What a brillant read ed.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you Para.}

19 Oct 2018 06:37:39
The 4-1 win at Old Trafford was great but the 11 draws did for us that season which I guess shows the lack of squad depth and maybe Rafa’s tactics were slightly more defensive because of this . think we started and ended the season great but struggled to cope with champions league and domestic cups along with league fixtures
Will be interesting to see if Klopp can manage this better squad effectively through the season.

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{Ed001's Note - Rafa's tactics were defensive because that is the way Rafa plays, nothing to do with squad depth.}

19 Oct 2018 06:59:58
I was trying to be generous to him . great coach bit overly defensive.

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{Ed001's Note - I love Rafa, but, no matter how generous you can be, he blew that season by being too defensive at the start.}

19 Oct 2018 10:19:55
do you not view chelsea as a threat this year ed?

great article, i absolutely loved torres, was my favourite player just as i was really getting into football. the way he moved with the ball was fantastic. thanks for the reminder about degen and el zhar, had finally managed to forget about them!

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{Ed001's Note - to us, yes, but they are playing for second or third imo.

Degen was an embarrassment.}

19 Oct 2018 11:57:07
Lol Rafa had a tendency to really pull out shocker, remember the Paulsen old man from Juve, Veronin and his ponytail and the Serbian guys who played on the left. It does make me wonder as a lot where so called free agents or low profile transfer that can be seen as alternative for primary targets. My main question is now that Mr Mou is self distructing with signings that don't make sense and Rafa having a history of making it publicly known when he feels he isn't backed, how similar are the two men as managers as they seem to have a lot of common things besides Real Madrid and Inter.

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{Ed001's Note - wasn't Poulsen signed by Hodgson?}

19 Oct 2018 12:59:48
yes he was a hodgson signing.

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19 Oct 2018 19:22:55
Spot on, Squizza. Rafa's defensive nature cost us the league that season, end of. I have NEVER bought the whole schstick/ excuses about the owners stifling him (which was true to an extent) and not letting him buy players. He bought a whiole bunch of dross when he WAS given money so that was down to him and nothing more.

The fact was that we were top till Jan BUT it was the 11 draws (vs low block teams) was what cost us. Rafa would rather play not to lose sometimes instead of going for the win. He would often play two sitting DM's at home vs the likes of Hull, Wigan, Birmingham etc and then we are surprised we got draws, all 11 of them. The hope now is that Klopp can get it done this season so here's to hoping.

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18 Oct 2018 10:55:57
Hi Ed001,

Just a general footy question. When Kyllian Mbappe came on the scene, I felt you just knew he was something special and would become a world beater. Just like the same feeling I had with Messi. Are there any other players at the moment you feel that way about?


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{Ed001's Note - that young lad Pellegri is the only one I can think of right now. There probably is more but my mind has gone blank.}

18 Oct 2018 12:54:34
This lad lost any single match he has scored in so far, unlucky.

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18 Oct 2018 13:20:29
Cengiz Under is another one. One day he'll be huge imo. Top notch.

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18 Oct 2018 14:28:29
Don’t rule out benny baller, still at the young age of 27. Those two goals at the charity match shows he’s still a fox in the box.

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{Ed025's Note - i think your more of an origi than a salah though benny, plenty of effort without that finesse and guile of a top performer mate.. :)

18 Oct 2018 14:52:02
Pellegri has looked great when he's gotten a game, though his move to Monaco has been plagued by injuries which I hope he recovers from. Also Jardim leaving is a huge loss, he's a genius when it comes to developing youth players.

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18 Oct 2018 20:23:44
Ismail Sarr of Rennes (brilliant at the WC for Senegal) is another one to watch for, I think.

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Review Of The Day 18th October 2018

18 Oct 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th October 2018

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18 Oct 2018 07:52:30
Thanks for that Ed001.

I presume Vidal's fight not during a game, otherwise discreetly carrying a 3l bottle of vodka around during a game may have been a might distracting.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry I should have specified it was in a nightclub. He would have got away with it if he had been on the pitch in a Bayern shirt....}

18 Oct 2018 08:05:31
Sounds like he did anyway Ed if he only got a fine.

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{Ed001's Note - true, he could have got a lengthy jail sentence.}

18 Oct 2018 08:32:13
I'm surprised by that to be honest, a fine for doing that? unbelievable. They get away with it all of the time and it's wrong, they should be treat the same as everybody else, anybody else would've been put in jail but because he's a footballer he gets away with it? it's wrong and it does my head in. He's a thug who should no longer be part of the sport.

Thanks very much Ed, have a great Thursday mate.

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{Ed001's Note - good point, when you actually think about it he did get away with it.}

18 Oct 2018 08:54:08
A brain injury?! Christ. Also sad to hear about my fellow Taffy Cotterill. Is it me or are more professionals being a lot more open about mental health lately? Fantastic for awareness.

Cheers ed have a good one!

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{Ed001's Note - I fear Cotterill will regret his decision. While depression is a big problem for footballers (sportspeople in general to be fair) that is often because of the removal of the sport from their lives. The routine, the sunlight and regular exercise are all very good for dealing with depression and he has now removed it from his life. I just hope he has good people around him.}

18 Oct 2018 09:04:00
Excellent point actually. Like you say hopefully has a good support network and he can get this endorphins elsewhere. Cheers mate.

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18 Oct 2018 09:19:48
By the sounds of what he says, he already has a plan in place moving forward of helping people. A lot of people that suffer depression take a lot of joy and peace out of helping others. Sort of I can't control how I feel but I can help others not feel this way so it's a feeling of satisfaction and calm you maybe can't find the equalibrium for your own life. I hope this is the case with him and he finds true happiness in helping others as like ed says, if not, he could find himself very lonely and without the one thing he may feel made him someone.

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18 Oct 2018 09:53:11
That's how I look at it as well Ed, I'd understand if he'd dropped some litter and got a fine, that's normal but assaulting somebody like that and getting a fine for it? it makes no sense to me mate. I've seen people go down for far less. 800 grand is bugger all to him so he'll be laughing.

Who's pocket has he lined? what a prick. Sore subject for me I must admit, it winds me up big time because too many of them get away with stuff yet if you or I go and do something like that then it's game over, if you're rich you get away with everything under the bloody sun.

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{Ed001's Note - very true, and then they even make you POTUS afterwards.}

18 Oct 2018 09:53:40
That’s terrible regarding Vidal, as much as I love my football, players seem to be treated completely differently, like they’re bloody royalty. A fine is nothing compared to what’s that poor chap on the receiving end will have to deal with for the rest of his life!

These players can afford the best lawyers, so they get away with everything. Imagine if say you or I did this, prison sentence for GBH!

On another note, I listened to most of Peter Moore’s interview conducted by Steve Hothersall whilst traveling into Manchester office, he made some really interesting points regarding the club.

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18 Oct 2018 10:41:40
The world is normal again, thank you Ed. I just want to echo what others have said about Vidal. To assault someone with a bottle and cause brain damage should carry more than a fine. Absolutely ridiculous how he is getting away with that. He's probably strutting around like he can get away with anything. I'd argue that he got away with attempted murder. That my be hyperbole on my part, but the point is if you or i did the same thing, we'd be thrown away.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

18 Oct 2018 10:44:16
Cheers Ed, can’t help thinking Real Madrid’s viewpoint would be a total opposite one had they been asked first. Cutting off noses to spite faces and all that. It may be the cynic in me, but although being the loudest, they are definitely not the most suitable ones to be making a moral standpoint on anything.

That West Ham deal still makes me sick. Be as nefarious, greedy, underhand and ignorant as you like, but when you are a Premier League club especially, do it on a private commercial basis and don’t play around with (effectively) tax payers assets. Why should the people of London (or anywhere) have had to stump up for the construction of West Ham’s stadium, then potentially subsidise them playing in it as well? It makes my blood boil seeing those two horrible vampires sat in the stands rubbing their hands together, both looking like they’ve got a bear trap attached to their legs. Saying that, it doesn’t take a lot for me to get narked off about something nowadays, so whatever.

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{Ed001's Note - I think Real Madrid would be against anything Barcelona want and vice versa.}

18 Oct 2018 10:49:30
wow he got away with a fine. really players should be a role model, these are people that are looked up by a lot of the younger generation. shame people like this continue to be in the top tier of football.

you make a good point there ed001, while we are a strong team, and a team that not many would like to up against, we are massively lacking in the trophies department, something that has to change beginning with this season. players will join us, but their ultimate goal will always be to win trophies.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

18 Oct 2018 14:31:49
Thanks Ed nice one. Wenger Man Utd manager by end of the season? Stranger things have happened.

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18 Oct 2018 13:28:49
Exactly Ed. I'm glad I aren't the only one who thinks this way. Hope you're having a good day mate.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, you?}

18 Oct 2018 15:42:51
Cheers for that ed, it’s very much appreciated. A months wages for an assault, it must be great to live a life with repercussions. Hope the victim takes him to court and gets at least a few months wages to pay the medical bills. I'm absolutely disgusted.

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18 Oct 2018 17:35:13
Very good actually Ed thank you very much mate!

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{Ed001's Note - glad to hear that.}

17 Oct 2018 22:52:28
Please Ed01 give the link to the boxing reviews that you have done or are doing.

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{Ed033's Note - Location of the boxing legends articles

17 Oct 2018 11:03:52
Everything OK with you Ed1/ Ed33? Just find it strange not to see the daily news that's all. Hope all is well :) .

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate sorry there was not enough news scraped together to make an article and I had not noticed the time to pad it out with filler in time before the autolinks would have generated. Sorry about that.}

17 Oct 2018 11:42:50
You've killed my routine Ed :) I'm feeling lost on this cold damp Wednesday. Just make up your own news headlines Ed please. Killer person shagbots shag Neymar JR to death in Paris or something similar.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry mate. I can't even think of anything to say at all. My head is full of Thomas Hearns at the moment, as I have just started writing up the boxing legends article on him.}

17 Oct 2018 12:13:39
I was about to post the same as Red Reaper. My day is ruined now because my routine is out of whack. Have a good day everyone. Hopefully there will be news tomorrow!

Has anyone read AOE's book? I've ordered it and am looking forward to reading it.

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{Ed001's Note - talk about pressure to make sure I don't miss another day!!}

17 Oct 2018 12:55:51
No need to appolagise Ed mate, just glad you're alright.

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{Ed001's Note - yeah good thanks mate. Enjoying being back on my feet!}

17 Oct 2018 13:23:09
I was looking forward to you commenting on Giggs calling Ash Williams "outstanding" Ed001!

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{Ed001's Note - are you sure he didn't say he saw Williams while out, standing outside a bar?}

17 Oct 2018 17:03:55
I read it stone, ah it’s fine. Bit pompous really. He should get back to his earlier work🤣🤣🤣. Ah ed, I don’t get to thank you today and remind you that it’s very much appreciated. I said it to the dog earlier when he went to the bathroom on a walk but it’s not the same.

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17 Oct 2018 18:54:10
No he said he’s more like a scarecrow - out standing in his field.

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17 Oct 2018 21:25:19
If you're stuck tomorrow Ed there's always Brexit.

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{Ed001's Note - and how they will move Britain outside Europe using cranes and diggers?}

18 Oct 2018 08:55:17
The wonders of civil engineering Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - they can do all sorts now mate. They will even split up Ireland as the Republic is staying...}

18 Oct 2018 09:04:51
Haha there's just going to be a big tarmac drive between republic and northern now.

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16 Oct 2018 18:22:23
Apparently Milner is recovered and ready for Saturday.

Roll on Saturday this Inernational break has seemed so long.

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{Ed002's Note - Not such good news for Nobby from the official sources though: Sparky Twitter }

16 Oct 2018 18:42:59
Lol you barmy bugger Ed2 hahaha! or should I say sparky! the nut case of a dog ;) .

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16 Oct 2018 19:51:03
Ah Sparky, ed’s002 alter ego.

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16 Oct 2018 16:47:19
Now Keita is injured! You think we will have any players left?

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{Ed002's Note - He hasn’t been starting - what is the concern?

16 Oct 2018 16:56:51
He would be milners replacement.

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{Ed002's Note - The club has no shortage of players available. I don’t know another set of fans who moan anything like the Liverpool fans about potential knocks and minor injuries.}

16 Oct 2018 17:03:43
The concern is that one of players who could of potentially replaced Milner who is also currently injured now may not be able to
Im sure he would of started in our next game as he did against Napoli in the champions league.

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{Ed002's Note - Must be another conspiracy against Liverpool.}

16 Oct 2018 17:06:55
He might of been with Milner injured ed. I guess we have options. Just frustrating seeing all our key players Mane Salah Vvd and now Keita injured on international duty.

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{Ed002's Note - There is a minor hand issue for Mane. Salah didn’t blubber or even fill his adult nappy - so nothing wrong with him. Van Dijk was not injured but arrived with some minor rib pain that he decided he could play with, and did, and then was allowed home whilst being rested for the next game. But I appreciate the Liverpool fans are unable to see or comprehend any of this.}

16 Oct 2018 17:10:49
It’s a shame the window is shut 😟.

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{Ed002's Note - Could sell Fabinho and Keita and get a couple of starters in.}

16 Oct 2018 17:28:34
What like a prawn cocktail and some whitebate.

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{Ed002's Note - Exactly.}

16 Oct 2018 17:34:10
I get what your saying ed, you have more info than me though mate tbf we just see the news on injured players which is often guess work. You no facts and with what youve said above I guess I should chill until the club updates us.

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{Ed002's Note - That is why people should wait until the club say something. As a guide, if a player gets a kick or pulls up during a game, it will usually be two days before an X-ray can be taken to allow swelling to go down. That is when the club will have medical staff will be able to give a reasonable assessment and a statement will be made if necessary. Having Klopp come out after a game and say the injury is serious or not serious is meaningless. It just means he has been looking at the player in the showers - and there is every chance that is not because of his injury (if you get my meaning).}

16 Oct 2018 19:09:51
Ed02 is playing a blinder with his responses atm. Brilliant stuff!

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16 Oct 2018 22:02:01
Cheers ed I get what ta saying mate, and Salah and Mane should play in other words.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not picking the team this season but there are not major issues for my assistant to deal with

16 Oct 2018 22:20:10
We, as fans and as paying fans, have every right to get annoyed when our club players get injured on international duty.

Alex Ferguson, he protected his players right? . Too right he did, take Giggs for instance, Fergie kept him away from international friendlies between 1990 -94 in order to protect his valuable asset. Club v Country is not a new debate, it’s been going on for years, even more so since there’s so much money in the game in today’s game.

I’vd never been the biggest Ferguson fan but at least he had the clout to stand up for what was best for Manchester United.

I’m not surprised we are all winging and moaning when our players get injured on meaningless international games.

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{Ed002's Note - It is posts like this that make Liverpool supporters a laughing stock. This constantly spewing irrational and ill-informed hate truly is a joke.}

16 Oct 2018 23:13:49
Ed002 - I’m trying to give you a lengthy response but the site keeps switching to an Amazon gaming competition, not sure but maybe you want to mention this to Ed001.

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{Ed002's Note - Why not type it in Notepad or Word and cut and paste it - tomorrow I will be travelling but look forward to reading it on Thursday and replying, but I will let Ed033 know there is an issue.}

16 Oct 2018 23:44:56
Have it be quick before it switches! Safe trip Ed002.

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17 Oct 2018 18:05:26
Drogie, your post about Fergie, meaningless friendlies (whatever the heck that means) and injuries (you know, a work hazard for pro athletes) and all that, makes very little sense and lacks any type of logic and nuance. BTW, what Fergie did about 20 years ago would NEVER fly now under the current inter'l football rules.

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16 Oct 2018 14:48:28
For a bit of fun I'd like to ask everyone, if they could only pick two liverpool squads since the premier league started which two squads would u choose? And also from your squads what would be your starting 11? For example, I picked the 2007/ 08 squad and the current squad and my starting 11 would be,
Van Dijk

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16 Oct 2018 15:12:19
Current Squad and 07/ 08

Allison Finnan Hypia Van Dijk Riise- Gerrard Alonso- Salah Firmino Mane- Torres.

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16 Oct 2018 17:48:33
Alisson, Finnan, Van Dijk, Agger, Robertson, Gerrard, Alonso, Milner (on current form, Keita or the ox in the long term), salah, Suarez, Mane.

I’d say alisson, salah and mane are the easiest choices. Liverpool have had some shocking wingers. Purely on talent alone Suarez makes my list, but if we’re talking about overall contribution, replace him with firmino.

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16 Oct 2018 17:53:22
Got to admit, my team would be very similar to yours, Oubaas.

Only difference is I reckon the balance of Gomez (being speedy) with VVD probably works better.

I can't decide between Finnan (finshed article) and TAA (higher bar, still learning) also.

I would probably go with our current back 4, and that's certainly NOT something I would have even contemplated 12 months ago!

How far we've come in that area in such a short space of time:

Clyne/ Lovren/ Matip/ Moreno to TAA/ Gomez/ VVD/ Robbo.

Light years ahead!

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16 Oct 2018 17:52:12
I'll go 2011/ 2012 and it's a difficult choice between the 2007/ 08 squad, the 2005/ 06 squad (which did win the ucl, despite being a weaker squad on paper) and the current crop.

I'll go

Robertson van diike agger carragher
Gerrard Henderson. Coutinio
Salah suarez sturridge.

What a team!

(Danny agger did still play for us in 2012 right? )

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16 Oct 2018 18:55:41
Agger was still at the club up to 2014, iirc, Mane. Carra (particularly circa 2012 when he'd been playing CB for 7 years) at right back to accommodate him though?

Anyway, I'd go current side plus 08/ 09.

Starting XI would be:

van Dijk

Before anyone asks, I don't think it's reasonable to judge Allison against the best keeper we had in the Premier League era (although he's not exactly got massive competition there) after only a few games. I suspect by the end of the season I'd put him ahead of Reina.

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16 Oct 2018 20:08:53
04/ 05 and 11/ 12.

Finnan, Carragher, Hyypia, Riise
Maxi, Alonso, Gerrard
Kuyt, Suarez, Garcia

Only because both teams won trophies.

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17 Oct 2018 10:40:57
Current and 13/ 14

GK: Allison
CB: Gomez
LB: Robertson
CM: Milner
CM: Gerrard
RW: Salah
CF: Firmino
LW: Coutinho
ST: Suarez

Bench: Sturridge, Mane, Lucas, Keita, Agger, Flannagan, Mignolet.

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17 Oct 2018 13:16:31
07/ 08 and the current squad in a 4231

Van Dijk




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17 Oct 2018 15:44:39
And now for the worst or it just didn't work out for

konchesky josemi kavarme Piechniek
poulson diomede carter
cheyrou Dundee El hadji diouf.

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17 Oct 2018 17:02:58
It's a tough question. I'd like to have hypia and vvd in the same team.

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