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16 Feb 2019 05:46:41
To anyone that can help, I’m coming up from London for the Bayern game but I’ve got to travel back that night. Can anyone suggest a supporters travel service or a forum where people share taxis etc? Any suggestions much appreciated x.

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15 Feb 2019 20:28:23
Thanks very much for the article on Schumacher eds, really enjoyed that-dare i say is Luis Suarez on the list?

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, he is defo on there.}

15 Feb 2019 20:34:11
So United confirm Lingard and Martial will be out of the game against us. If true, and it may not turn out to be with the old mind games, United will be very very dangerous but those two in particular have done so well for them and it's a big fillet not to have to face two of the most in form men in the leauge.

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{Ed0333's Note - they don’t have to face Gomez or The Ox. Even Steven if you ask me.

15 Feb 2019 22:15:32
If you asked most fans which two players from that United team pose the biggest danger, on form the last half dozen games they are it, with maybe Pogba. Ox hasn't kicked a ball all season so who knows what form he would be in and Gomez has been out for a while, it's only recently these two lads have really been on it.

Those two have been ticking for a few months and producing game on game since OGS took charge, Ox and Joe haven't kicked a ball for a while which is the difference. Two massively in form players who have played well recently will be missing for United, two that haven't been a consideration due to injury for months will be missing for us. there's a big difference for me.

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15 Feb 2019 22:22:10
Its definitely a big fillet, especially when there's so much at steak.

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15 Feb 2019 22:53:21
Well done Like a Virgil, i guess Lukaku could come in to beef up their attack.

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15 Feb 2019 23:14:04
Lukaku has been toilet all season. Lingard and Martial are their big goal threats, I was fearing this one but I think this does give us a boost.

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15 Feb 2019 23:52:53
Be wary, sanchez turns up against us.

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16 Feb 2019 00:27:06
That would be quite meaty, don't you think? With Lukaku, that attack won't lack a bite at all!

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16 Feb 2019 00:32:05
They have well able replacements. Lukaku and Sanchez on their day are more than a handful for any defence. Utd will be there for the taking but they will get chances. Utd fans said young had a stormer of a game last time but salah didn't get the ball enough imo. I can see a very close game but see us picking them off on the counter a few times.

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16 Feb 2019 01:10:09
Its Unfortunate losing some of your prime players to injury, but wagyu going to do?

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16 Feb 2019 05:14:40
They will be both play its all mond games.

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16 Feb 2019 09:22:25
It’s a high steaks game!

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16 Feb 2019 10:07:03
Zed will be gutted he’s missed out on this 😄.

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16 Feb 2019 12:32:51
Don't get too comfortable, lads. That is how things can go wrong. Utd still have players like Lukaku, Sanchez, Pogba, Rashford and Mata that can hurt us on the day. Stay focused and fully prepared REGARDLESS of who they are missing or not missing.

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16 Feb 2019 12:56:59
You guys are acting like real jerky’s today.

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16 Feb 2019 13:35:15
You’re right Ron.

We must ensure we don’t skirt around this issue.

It’s time to spit in OGS’s (rib) eye.

We’ll be fine as long as we don’t play Mignon-let.

😊.

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15 Feb 2019 20:24:07
This is Anfield, these are our Streets, these are our routines, this is our home, these are our Saturdays, our nights after school, these are our colours, our flags, our pubs, our gates, our mates, our crest, our words which stand alone,
This is the man who started it all, and this was his favourite place, this is the Kop, were we taught the rest how to sing, this is the pitch, were we once watched the King, these are the stairs we walked hand in hand, these are the lights that light up the dark, these are the good times, and these are the bad times, this is what doubt looks like and how heartbreak feels, and this is how you fight back, by refusing to know when your down, this is support, this is community, this is solidarity, this is how you hold your head up high, when the storm is all around you, this is how you fight for what you believe in when everyone else doubts you, this is the first time, this is the one hundreth time, these are the times to look forward, to the end of the shift, to the end of the week, to the end of the storm, this is the team we always adore.
For others its a sport, for us its a way of life, they have a Stadium, we have a Home, they have songs, we have an Anthem, they have a manager, we have a Guardian, they have supporters, we are a family.
We are LIVERPOOL, This means more.

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{Ed0333's Note - I love a nice battlecry 5 days before a big game, get in there Mr Bond

16 Feb 2019 00:43:49
That's it I've got the 5-0 v forest game on. The mighty reds video done by the BBC. Doesn't get any better than this. Digger that season was arguably the best liverpool player i've ever seen live in one of the best liverpool teams of all time. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but some of the teams that won the European cup during the ban wouldn't have got the ball of us.

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16 Feb 2019 10:03:22
007, that is a very good ‘cut and paste’ job from the New Balance ‘This Means More’ campaign launch video from April 2018. Careful Bond or your next deadly enemy will be the New Balance copyright lawyers.

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16 Feb 2019 12:34:49
Spot on, WW. Hey 007, if you are going to copy/ paste other people's quotes, the least you can do is put it in quotation marks and reference where the quotes came from.

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15 Feb 2019 18:14:45
I know it’s been mentioned that Gerard when he was a youth coach focused on results over development, just wanted to ask what sort of example gave that impression?

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15 Feb 2019 18:35:27
Think it was a combination of only playing best and oldest players whenevr possible rather than trying to bring through youngsters and I think he was also quite openly bothered by losing his best Under 18 players to the Under 23s.

To be fair, all the youth players seemed to like working with him and they did get some great results but I do get the sense that it was more of a stepping stone in management for him rather than him being excited to be part of the youth setup.

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15 Feb 2019 19:26:17
The constant moaning about his players being picked for the u23s or going on loan becasue his team were no longer good enough to win the title and therefor show him as a good manager. It was all about trying to make him look good so he could climb the ladder which he managed not about him contributing to some of our young players development.

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16 Feb 2019 05:15:19
He had a winning mentality.
A bit like Shearer and his goalscorer mentality. For example in training Shearer used to smash every shot as hard as possible like he did in real games and he used to celebrate every goal in training in the same manner.

Gerrard has that winning mentality and it meant more to him to win than anything else.
I think it’s an admirable trait.

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16 Feb 2019 08:21:35
And something missing in todays snowflake generation, i think stevie, lamps and scholesy will all be top managers in a few years.

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{Ed001's Note - not for kids it isn't and that shows a lack of any understanding of youth development. It is nothing to do with this idiotic notion of 'snowflakes' you have. It is to do with the fact that players, of all ages, develop best when they have the freedom to improve. That is why the older generation that were bullied by coaches were doing their improvement in playgrounds, on parks, in the streets, not at youth academies. You are displaying a brutal ignorance in your comment and this kind of thing is why British teams were so damn crap at developing young players.

Whether it be surgeons, footballers or any skill, it is best developed in an environment where there is no blame culture. Once you have the skills, then you can use them under pressure, but you have to have them first as you do not learn them while having Gerrard bullying you to win.

Gerrard might make a top manager, but he won't do it by demanding, Lampard doesn't even work that way and I very much doubt Scholes will either, as he did not come through a youth system that did.}

16 Feb 2019 10:11:27
Not that I would pretend to know anything about youth development, but I think there needs to be a balance.
They need to develop a competitive streak as well, there are a lot of very skilful footballers who never make it. I think you need that passion and drive to succeed.

I doubt Gerrard will make a great ‘coach’ but he may make a great manager. He has a lot of the traits.

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{Ed001's Note - a competitive streak is nothing to do with having pressure to win from the outside Ron. That is about the player themselves wanting to win, to be better than the opponent, not from outside pressures saying 'you must win or else'.}

16 Feb 2019 23:52:38
Just seen this ed, wasnt expecting that! I certainly wouldn't condone bullying but something has been lost with this generation, not just in football.

I still think they should clean the pros boots and muck in cleaning etc, just to make these kids appreciate what they have and where they are, respect is disapearing fast.

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17 Feb 2019 09:34:56
Ed, do you think Gerrard applies that pressure because of his own desire to win? Do you think he might have the same issue as Roy Keane in terms of he can’t understand why all players do not want to run through walls for the team?

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{Ed001's Note - yes that is it exactly. He thinks everyone should be like him and struggles to understand that some just aren't like that and need a different kind of treatment. I am sure he can learn to change though.}

15 Feb 2019 15:55:18
Livrpools Back four against Bayern will be interesting as VVD is suspended for Anfield game, perhaps that's why Lovren never went to marbella training centre, instead receiving intensive treatment at Mellwood for the four days squad were away otherwise Milner centre half? or Robertson centre half Milner then left back? Thoughts anyone.

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15 Feb 2019 16:13:17
Fabinho or Wijnaldum.

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15 Feb 2019 16:41:46
Its imperative that we sign a top class centre half during the summer as cover, Lovren and Matip are not good enough for long term cover.

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15 Feb 2019 16:42:47
Fab is next in line for CB.

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15 Feb 2019 16:44:16
P. S. Good news for man utd game Martial and Lingard will not play, only need De Gea or Pogba to go down.

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15 Feb 2019 16:44:16
P. S. Good news for man utd game Martial and Lingard will not play, only need De Gea or Pogba to go down.

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15 Feb 2019 16:59:36
Gomez is the top class cb we need only he is injury prone. Joe was looking as good as big v early this season. But his injury troubles worry me. Lovren is more than capable imo.

I think we have dropped point souly because the back four was always interchanging. When had taa, gomez, vvd and robbo we looked invincible.

If lovren is fit I would assume he will partner matip. But fabhino I would rather than a half injured lovren or the pussy cat matip.

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15 Feb 2019 17:06:09
Robbie, how is Gomez injury prone? He had one bad injury from wich he recovered very well and is up to speed after that, some footballers never recover from such injury. Now he is not to blame for the injury he carries, how can you blame him? In that game the tactics of the opposition was to kick our players and hope we get tired from that. The result was his injury.

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15 Feb 2019 17:39:44
Gomez said that most of his injuries were caused by impact. If that's the case, we can't really call him an injury prone player. Just unfortunate.

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15 Feb 2019 18:09:00
He’s been injured for a month or more every season we have had him.

This seasons was part dyches tactics and part the fact that he wasn’t rested often enough, having to cover right back so TAA could be rested.

The moral, we need a RB so Gomez never has to cover there again and can be properly rotated and rested.

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15 Feb 2019 18:15:18
Alisson

A. Arnold-Fabinho-Matip-Robertson

Milner-Wijanldum-Keita

Salah-Firmino-Mane

we can win Bayern with this lineup!

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15 Feb 2019 18:51:55
KK I’ve never know being rested to prevent a broken leg. Mee followed through on him and broke his leg, he was just unlucky.
They did the same thing numerous times that game but on that occasion his foot was planted and Mee’s full body weight went through him.
I’d hardly call getting injured from that being injury prone or a sign of needing a rest.

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15 Feb 2019 18:53:00
Hendo for Milner for me, Keita just in front of the two.

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15 Feb 2019 19:32:56
Gomez being "injury-prone" is a myth, backed up by NO facts. Oh and by the way, him being injured when viciously tackled does NOT make him injury prone. That is also a myth. Gomez is young and his body is still developing as a professional athlete so it is normal that his body goes thru such growing pains and pick up knocks here and there, so his body can get used to the demands of professional sports. That is it and nothing else.

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15 Feb 2019 19:51:41
we need to sign at least one more cb who can be good enough to partner VanDijk and sell one of Matip/ Lovren they are injury prone and they don't want to be back up and Gomez is a lot better.

Maybe Koulibally, DeLigt, Upamecano, M. Skriniar.

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15 Feb 2019 20:03:48
Gomez’s latest injury was caused by a disgusting “tackle” by Ben Mee, that’s nothing like being injury prone.

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{Ed025's Note - thats a bit over the top FMS, it was clumsy yes but without intent i believe mate..

15 Feb 2019 14:47:08
Eds. With Grujic smashing it in the bundesliga (watching bundesliga highlights and 23carragold posts also speaks highly of him) why are so many fans keen to get him gone or don't think there's a place in the team for him? Yet some posts on here seem to think Allan has future at the club.

Could be wrong but i would rather see him in the squad next season. what do you think?

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know he has shown some attitude problems so I am not sure about him and his dad is a pain in the arse.}

15 Feb 2019 15:39:24
I think the plan is for him to be loaned out to a champions league team!

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15 Feb 2019 18:03:23
Has he shown any attitude problems at Cardiff last season or Hertha this though? I realise him and his father seemed to have been pains in his 1st season with us but maybe a couple of seasons playing regular football will have shown him how much he still had to learn during his time with us.

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{Ed001's Note - yes, he was given a public dressing down for not trying in training last season.}

15 Feb 2019 19:34:16
Ed, Then he'd better shape up with his attitude issues got that's not going to fly under Klopp regardless of his talent.

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15 Feb 2019 20:43:35
There's definitely a player there, talent-wise I think he can make it with us but obviously will have to get the attitude right. Klopp won't put up with any messing.

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15 Feb 2019 10:22:04
Wishing the team a 19 game winning streak.

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15 Feb 2019 13:43:14
I echo that loud and hard mate. It's our special season. Yes it is!

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Sporting Villains 2: Harold Schumacher

15 Feb 2019 09:53:12
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Sporting Villains 2: Harold Schumacher

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15 Feb 2019 10:49:42
One of your best Ed. Thank you for what you do.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it. Was very interesting researching it. I never knew anything about his autobiography causing issues in Germany before now.}

15 Feb 2019 11:37:27
I remember my old man telling me about Schumacher tackle. I never saw it for yrs until YouTube existed. Unbelievable.

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{Ed001's Note - it is one of the worst ever defo. Absolutely shocking that he still denies it was deliberate.}

15 Feb 2019 13:18:09
Fair play ed mate, your banging these articles out. All great reads too cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate really glad you think that.}

15 Feb 2019 14:14:14
Great article - lovely to read about some of these events of days past. That tackle was pure assault. he clearly jumps after the ball is past him, and away from the path of the ball and into the player, turning his hip into him as he goes. Brutal.

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{Ed001's Note - you don't get more obvious than that. Still hard to believe he got away with it.}

15 Feb 2019 16:24:32
Really great article Ed001, a true villain of the game. Is Platini on the legends list?

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{Ed001's Note - he seems to have been overlooked so I have added him.}

15 Feb 2019 16:54:16
Brutal.
Is maradonna going to be another villain in this series Ed? (Hand of god)
Or even David Beckham? I remember he was a villain for a while after lashing out and getting himself sent off in 98 I think?, I remember he was crucified in the media after that.

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate both are on the list for those reasons.}

15 Feb 2019 18:35:13
Good work enjoyed that read.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers neggs.}

15 Feb 2019 18:40:57
Excellent read that was Ed. One of yiur best that I've read. Thank you.

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{Ed001's Note - thanks Kk I appreciate that.}

15 Feb 2019 21:57:23
Fantastic mate.

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15 Feb 2019 21:59:38
Cheers Ed have a good Friday mate.

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15 Feb 2019 19:51:10
Great read, Ed. I lived in France for 5 years and trust me, NOBODY mentions Schumacher's name when talking football. The anger of the pundits just grow. What he did to Battiston (I knew he lost two teeth BUT did not know about his other injuries and his coma) and his disgusting behavior afterwards, was just too much to bear.

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{Ed001's Note - still it might have been a slight overreaction to have him as more hated than Hitler!}

15 Feb 2019 02:42:29
Reading that Lampard is highly impressed with Liverpool's loan department. He reckons they are doing a great job of looking after Wilson and communicating with him. Eds - do you know how true this is? Does this extend to their other loanees as well and thus bode well for how Liverpool are starting to treat their loanees - given how poorly its been managed in recent years?

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{Ed002's Note - They are doing better than they have in the past without doubt.}

15 Feb 2019 11:14:35
I Think the big shrft we have seen is both an improvement in progressive loans where they are thinking further ahead than just 3 months as well as a liason officer who helps keep them focused and reports back to Liverpool.

I know we have recently introduced penalties which has both positive and negatives benefits but overall probably meaning teams are only wanting loanees if they aren’t going to impact the team.

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15 Feb 2019 11:42:36
It's great news. Klopp gives youngsters s chance and for that reason I really think some of our youth players are going to come through.

Lewis
Gallagher
Camancho
Hoever
Curtis jones
Wilson
Woodburn
Duncan
Brewster.

Look at
Trent
Gomez
Solanke
Camancho
Curtis Jones.

I haven't seen a carra gold report for a while. Does anyone know if Ben Woodburn is getting any chances at the blades? He wasn't getting a look in last year but we've seen him play. He must be one of the most technically gifted players in the utd squad. So what is the issue? I reckon he should have gone up the road with Gerrard.

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{Ed001's Note - I usually put the reports on the rumour page as they are quiet at this time of year mate. Sorry, it just means they stay on the page longer to be seen.}

15 Feb 2019 12:57:24
Isnt Woodburn back at Liverpool and currently with the squad?

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15 Feb 2019 16:55:36
..................There is no way at all we are going to put posts up like this...........

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15 Feb 2019 17:12:08
Please accept my abject apologies Ed, the point I was very clumsily trying to make is that we don't have a player called Camancho.

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{Ed002's Note - No problem.}

15 Feb 2019 22:20:20
Good name though “Camancho”.

Might call my new puppy “Camancho”, has a ring to it. 👍.

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