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12 Dec 2018 10:50:17
Wow what a performance. That was Liverpool back to their best with their pressing and hurrying the opposition. Napoli were rattled and if Liverpool had been clinical the game would have been out of reach but was nice to see the boys with their mojo back. Looks like money well spent on VVD and Allison.

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12 Dec 2018 11:39:35
It's was an amazing performance. the first game i have been at this year and the confidence Allison gives us is immeasurable. I can't remember the last time I felt that we are now capable of scoring one goal to win games.

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12 Dec 2018 10:09:13
Wow! What a night I've lost my voice screaming my tactical orders to the team form the main stand haha, Alisson! What can you say he's literally the best in the world right now who comes close, that is exactly what you pay for, Real Madrid actually thought courtois was a better keeper, their mistake is our gain, onto the next round! Who do we all want next?

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12 Dec 2018 10:13:18
Real Madrid, second leg at Anfield!

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12 Dec 2018 10:20:25
Second leg would be in Madrid.

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12 Dec 2018 13:40:05
Real Madrid for me too, its time for revenge. Second choice would be Bayern, their defence wouldn't handle our attack.

Gkad you had a good night ST.

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12 Dec 2018
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, Super Alisson

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12 Dec 2018 10:20:44
Brilliant! Although surely it should be pink or purple, lol.

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12 Dec 2018 10:36:30
Andy Dunn has his ratings on the mirror and he gave Gini a 6. Milly a 6. Virg a 7. and if that wasn't bad enough Allsion the beautiful Brazilian only got a 6. My good god some people are idiots.

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{Ed001's Note - yes, those people reading a tabloid..... ;-)

12 Dec 2018 10:48:47
Thought wijnaldum was excellent last night, just wish he was more composed in front of goal
Firmino is possibly my favourite player and I've seen him get decent ratings but I thought he was quite poor last night.
How good is Allison? Can't wait to see him up against De Gea on Sunday, really think we're going to thump them.

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12 Dec 2018 10:50:06
I deserve that.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry mate couldn't resist.}

12 Dec 2018 13:08:22
LOL, brilliant 🤣.

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12 Dec 2018 13:41:33
Hahahaha, love it. Lol this is why I never read the sh*te they publish.

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12 Dec 2018 18:16:28
Ah Jaysus, what sort of drugs is Dunn on?

I want some, they must be good.

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12 Dec 2018 09:33:48
On such a high after yesterday what a game what a performance last 16! here we come.

But with the united game coming up im just thinking of a trend. In the last few season (including when van gahl was there) we have met united on a very positive not and very high in confidence and ended up drawing and losing (i am talking league only)

Lets hope we beat them Sunday cause its been a while in the premier league and we really need the 3 points.

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12 Dec 2018 10:21:30
We can't look back, we're a different team as are they. We'll mince 'em!

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12 Dec 2018 10:31:23
I felt like we would lose Napoli and beat united so will probably lose now!
We never seem to be able to break them down, and I’m sure Fellaini will be in there throwing elbows about - big game for vvd!
Let’s hope this new Liverpool can do the business!

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12 Dec 2018 10:39:27
Hold on to the faith and believe. The mental strength and self confidence is building up in this team. We have the perfect blend of experience and youth now, and we're going to go places. 😉.

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12 Dec 2018 10:42:19
What team dya reckon we'll play? I'd like to say keita but he's so small compared to Fellani n Matic so I don think think he'll start, I can see Fab in there and shaq.

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12 Dec 2018 13:21:35
The best player in the World is a relatively small guy. Lionel Messi. Does okay against some pretty big guys. 😉.

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{Ed001's Note - yeah but could he do it on a wet and windy day at Old Trafford, as they are the new Stoke...}

12 Dec 2018 13:45:57
We won't only win Firmane, we're going to batter them mate, I really do think it'll be a slamming. We're coming back to our best just at the right time, they can park the bus and play for a point etc, bring them on, they have nothing on us, I was more worried about the Bournemouth game.

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12 Dec 2018 13:55:42
The big guys push him around Ed001, and send him to smell the grass on his behind fairly often, but we've all seen what he does. He just gets back up and gets playing again. Like the battery that keeps going and going. (Seriously though, I don't think Lionel Messi would have too hard a time in the EPL, even so late in his career. Maybe not score 60, but would still hold on to being the best. A frail looking guy like David Silva has done pretty well with no harm to his reputation) .

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{Ed001's Note - I agree mate. All those TUEs as a kid have made him strong enough to cope and robust enough to deal with the fouls he gets on a daily basis.}

12 Dec 2018 14:30:20
Messi, he's dope, bro :)

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12 Dec 2018 16:01:31
"Groovy" is the word we use, from my generation, Zed 😉.

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12 Dec 2018 21:19:22
Good point, Ra.

I’m sure there’s a Latin phrase that Ed025 used in his youth 😉😂.

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{Ed025's Note - jordanus and fabicus are crapicus, thats the only latin i know mate.. :)

12 Dec 2018 08:27:10
Hi Ed02. How are you doing? Need your inputs here. Could you please let us know on the financial aspects of Champions League participation. I was going through some reports where it was mentioned that there will be ranking based distribution for the participation money in the first round. And there will be money for each win and draw. Subsequently, there will be more money if a team qualifies for the next round. Please help with the details.

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{Ed002's Note -
Play Off Round losers - €5M
Qualifying for the Group Stage - €15.25M
Winning a Group Stage match - €2.7M
Drawing a Group Stage match - €900k
Qualification (Round of 16) - €9.5M
Qualification (Quarter Finals - €10.5M
Qualification (Semi- Finals) - €12M
Qualification (Final) - €15M
Winning (Final) - €4M
Additional Payments for Clubs in the Group Stage (Television Money) – A share of about €300M depending on several factors
Additional Payments for Clubs in the Group Stage (Performance Coefficients) – A share of a little more €585M depending on several factors (between €1.1M for lowest ranked club to about €35M for the highest ranked club (Real Madrid).}

12 Dec 2018 09:19:51
Can’t wait for sky sports to glance at this page and be inspired to run a good twenty min segment on the financials and whip everyone up into a pre window frenzy. Seriously though, thanks for the info ed very interested to see how much the play off losers receive.

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12 Dec 2018 09:46:39
Thanks a lot Ed02.

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{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

12 Dec 2018 10:33:02
Sorry for my understanding, Madrid get paid a bit extra because they are ranked highest? 😳.

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{Ed002's Note - Some of the payments are based on performance based rankings, Real Madrid are ranked #1, Barcelona #2 etc..}

12 Dec 2018 11:13:07
top quality info Ed002. I hope we can keep progressing in the competition and next year we should move up the rankings and be in at least pot 2.

Shout out to Gini he is far exceeding my expectations.

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{Ed002's Note - As it stands right now Liverpool would be in Pot 2 or 3 - much depending on who wins the major leagues. Liverpool has jumped up the rankings as it has been expanded from 5 to 10 years.}

12 Dec 2018 11:18:45
Excellemt question by OP and wonderful insight provided by ED02.

So you possibly earn a headline figure of €70m if you end up winning the CL.

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12 Dec 2018 11:27:31
So 15.25 group stage
8.1 matches won
9.5 qualification knock out
20.0? Additional payment
? TV money

You can see the importance of top 4 Gauranga.

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12 Dec 2018 14:31:32
Who's Gauranga and why did your autocomplete go there first?!?

Travel to 'certain' parts of South America much? ;-)

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12 Dec 2018 16:10:34
I'm waiting for the day when club chief accountants start sitting next to managers on the bench, to remind that a win is worth 1.8 Million more than a draw in a group stage match. 😏.

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13 Dec 2018 00:08:13
Wow you get more money for qualifying for the final than winning it.

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13 Dec 2018 00:09:13
The amount of knowledge you possess Ed2 never fails to Amaze me.

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13 Dec 2018 09:29:43
Just for Berg, the figures are cumulative.

Both teams who qualify for the final get €15m, the winner also gets €4m on top.

:)

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13 Dec 2018 17:18:54
Thanks zed.

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12 Dec 2018 08:49:21
Can VvD's yellow card be contested Ed? He clearly got the ball before the player.

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{Ed001's Note - it was a foul, the decision was the correct one. A follow through is a foul now. Why have people forgotten when you were all complaining how Burnley got away with the exact same things?}

12 Dec 2018 09:20:50
As it was a European game, I thought he was lucky to stay on the pitch when I saw the replay, maybe I’m wrong.

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12 Dec 2018 09:35:31
Yep there was a case for red two although im certain there was no intention.

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12 Dec 2018 10:17:42
He was a bit lucky it wasn’t a red - you can’t follow through the ball studs up like that. Ancelotti is a bit rich for whining about that though, as Verratti did exactly the same tackle or worse in the first leg.

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{Ed001's Note - Verratti? He doesn't play for Napoli, he plays for PSG, Ancelotti is in charge of Napoli.}

12 Dec 2018 11:41:07
Dedinitely a foul and at least yellow. Then it depends on the individual ref if its a red.

I rekon there needs to be some responsibility laid on the tackler which is why VVDs tackle as well as those from Burnley should be called.

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12 Dec 2018 13:26:26
Just based on what i see weekly in the EPL (but don't know the exact rules on the subject) studs up with one leg usually ends up with a yellow and studs up with both legs usually earns an immediate visit to the changing room and showers. Not as simple as that, but that's what I have noticed.

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{Ed001's Note - and that is the way it is meant to be now.}

12 Dec 2018 13:53:29
I was against the decision at first BUT I didn't see the replay, my stream buggered up as it was about to show it but I saw it this morning and yes it was a clear foul. There's no backing that up imo. I don't think he intended to do it but it's not the point. Overall the ref was bloody useless imo but with that one he got it right.

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12 Dec 2018 07:57:37
There was so much intensity in our play last night, I'm just glad we have 4/ 5 days before we play United on Sunday.

I thought Matip and VVD were brilliant last night, as were the midfield. I need not mention Alisson. Let's just hope Trent and Matip are ok.

Nice touch by Salah at the end to give his shirt away.

Sunday will be an interesting team selection after such a demanding game last night.

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12 Dec 2018 09:08:20
I think Salah giving his shirt away at the end was a blatant sign he’s not happy at the club!

Sorry drogie I couldn’t resist 🤣.

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12 Dec 2018 10:22:16
He can't be short of a bob or two then, that shirt costs a fortune! :D.

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12 Dec 2018 13:27:56
87red. You weren't paying attention. He definitely was not smiling when he gave the shirt away. So yes, he is definitely very unhappy.

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12 Dec 2018 07:50:03
Great result last night. Unfortunately missed the game as was at Camp Nou for the Barcelona Spurs (for a friends birthday) game which was very underwhelming. Saw some highlights in a bar afterwards and looks like we should've put them to bed early on. But a great save from Allison and another clean sheet which is showing something about the way we play now with Allison and VVD in the team so much more organisation and confidence too.
Anyway it could be a tough draw especially with VVD out of first leg, but neither Real or Barcelona look great this season. Ajax could still pip Bayern to too spot and you'd be disappointed to get knocked out by them, same for me with Dortmund even if they have improved this year. Anyone would want Porto. Feel Juventus could be the tough draw but then if united can't turn them over.

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12 Dec 2018 07:36:30
Did anyone at the match see how poor the referee was last night? I've never seen such poor officiating in a European game in a long long time. It was quite extraordinary.

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12 Dec 2018 07:47:14
I remember last year finals ref was also poor.

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12 Dec 2018 08:00:11
Refs for European games are always less willing to let things go and blow for anything. Just got to adapt to the way they ref the game.

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12 Dec 2018 08:17:06
Was at Barcelona spurs last night and where I can’t say the red got any decisions wrong anytime a player got near the man with the ball a foul was given. Really made it difficult to watch.

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12 Dec 2018 11:20:24
Said to my Mrs last night it looked like he'd won a raffle, first prize ref a champion league match.

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12 Dec 2018 11:27:03
He was too involved. I feel refs like him just blow for attention sometimes. Some of the things he was pulling up was embarrassing.

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12 Dec 2018 11:45:07
That ref has been in charge of Liverpool games in Europe 5 times now and we lost the previous four, so last night was at least an improvement on that.

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12 Dec 2018 12:21:50
I remember last nights linesman being appalling. Seemed like he flipped heads or tails on a bunch of offside decisions.

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12 Dec 2018 04:34:05
Ed01 your thoughts on Alisson?!

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{Ed001's Note - my thoughts are still the same as before we bought him, when I was begging for us to buy him. An absolutely top class keeper with the potential to be the best in the world. In fact, an argument could be made for him this season having been the best in the world.

Like every player, he is human and does make the odd mistake, but he makes up for it many times over with the things he does right. I have heard people argue Ederson is better on the ball, but I disagree, there is no keeper in the world who can distribute the ball to the level he can. He won Serie A keeper of the year last season and he is on track to win the Prem version this time.}

12 Dec 2018 05:31:53
Even if Ederson could distribute better (at best they’re equal), he couldn’t hold a candle to Allison.

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12 Dec 2018 06:10:27
Ive got to say Allison has started to impress me a little more. Still got a bit more to do to be up there with ddg. Hopefully he will get there.

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{Ed025's Note - i think he is better than de gea walter certainly this season, liverpool payed big money for him and VVD but they have both justified their price tags mate..

12 Dec 2018 06:18:38
I was one of the those that wanted Karius to get another season to prove himself coz we were overpaying for a GK who was not a significant improvement on what we had and spent only one good season in Europe.
Its safe to say I got my butt kicked on that one coz Alisson has been a revelation. Best GK in the league at the moment and top3 in the world.

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12 Dec 2018 07:27:17
I think Allison is already an absolute legend but he’s still not at de gea standard yet. That said, I think de gea might prove to be one of the greatest of all time but if there’s one keeper I’ve seen in the last ten years that looks capable of beating him, it’s allison. Ederson isn’t even in the same league.

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{Ed001's Note - have you not been watching de Gea lately? He has been half the keeper Alisson has. In fact he has been so bad that Spain want to drop him and he has cost Man Utd goals instead of saving them as usual. I don't know what is up with him, but he is really struggling. His head is not right at the moment.}

12 Dec 2018 07:37:02
alisson is the best this season in epl and most likely the best in the world on current form. he needs to it consistently to be named among de gea (as he has been doing it consistently apart from this season, earning points for his club), bt there's no doubt he's the best so far this season.

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12 Dec 2018 07:40:46
The last minute save was like Peter Schmeichel.

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12 Dec 2018 07:48:31
No man peter Schmeichels save was like alissons. ed01 actually my opinion improved! didn't think that was possible to be honest!

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{Ed001's Note - he is a fantastic keeper.}

12 Dec 2018 07:52:42
I completely agree that degea is having a bad season but who at United isn’t? Even with a bad run of form he has been the best keeper in the world by quite a margin for the last few years. Allison is on fire but he’s got a bit to go. Form is temporary and all that. While I’d love Allison to become the goat, he’s not just there yet.

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{Ed001's Note - for the last 3 seasons de Gea has been the one player at United who hasn't been having a bad season. There is clearly a problem with him since he went away with Spain in the summer.}

12 Dec 2018 07:54:21
DDG wants out. Its obvious. The poor guy has been spending his best years playing for Jose and hoping his team qualify for a top6 finish while playing dinosaur football in front of Smalling and JOnes.
He will be gone in the summer unless something drastic changes at Old Trafford. I think the premier league has seen the last of an in form DDG. And Alisson has come at the right time to pick up the pieces and mantle of the best GK in England.

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{Ed001's Note - that doesn't make sense. If he wants out, he would not be playing poorly for Spain.}

12 Dec 2018 07:55:18
Pretry much already won epl goalie of the season!

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12 Dec 2018 07:57:37
My brother said that to me last night.

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12 Dec 2018 08:10:31
More like Clemence!

Job done.

Now for United.

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12 Dec 2018 08:18:19
De Gea is probably the main reason United finished where they did last season. But their true level is starting to show now because he isn't there to bail them out, he's even costing them games actually.

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12 Dec 2018 08:18:26
I can't wait for Sunday but going on De Gea's performances I can't wait even more, for some odd reason he's leaking in the goals, imagine him against us? he'll crumble imo, we're going to give them a good smashing on Sunday!

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12 Dec 2018 08:35:07
DDG has always been poor for Spain though. First time he has looked clueless for man Utd. He will be gone this summer for sure.

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12 Dec 2018 09:10:19
I’d say degea’s heart is gone after the Spanish move never happened in my opinion. Where could he go at this point anyway? Even if he hits form again the big teams have capable keepers. Regardless, I am ridiculously hopeful Allison keeps up the form and becomes one of the true greats and does what degea did for United for the last few years (earn them at least 12 additional points singlehanded)

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12 Dec 2018 09:37:22
De Gea has been quality the last few years shot stopping but wouldn’t suit us as he is not good enough with the ball at his feet for how we want to play. Alisson is perfect for us good on the ball commands his area which is what we need as we play a higher line and the way he makes great saves look simple and straightforward just shows how great he is
Plus he can play the guitar!

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12 Dec 2018 10:50:55
Love Alisson, what a huge difference a goalkeeper makes! He’s confident, controlling and mostly calming, although he always seems to have one pass a game go directly to their first line - although that could still make his pass accuracy 98% with the amount he has to his feet.

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12 Dec 2018 09:41:45
Ed025 hope your well mate. Just picking up on what you’ve said above about Alisson being better than DDG and praising him. You were saying a few weeks back that you thought Pickford is as good as Alisson mate, do you stand by what you said or do you think you may of under estimated Alisson ability and was clouded by his one mistake away at Leicester months ago? Not looking for an argument mate and appreciate your input as always just wanted to ask.

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{Ed025's Note - im thinking i was wrong to compare them virgi, alisson has been very good and along with VVD they have been your best 2 players mate..

 


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