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15 Oct 2017 11:29:14
I posted the other day about DS needing to be moved on. And yesterday just confirmed it for me. We are playing Man U if there's one game you want the players to put some effort and fight in it's that game.
People say he needs games. But not for me. He's not going to get games if he doesn't want to run and close down from the front. Put in the hard work and you will get games. Jogging though the last 15-20 mins for me is not acceptable.
It happens to all players at some point legs have gone weather it's though injuries or age time to move on and find a striker that can score and run for the team.

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15 Oct 2017 12:02:21
Same here, show us you want to try and maybe he'd get more game time, yesterday he did nothing therefore how the hell can he be played more, you'd of thought given you've only got 15 or so mins to play you'd want to impress, but nothing was there from him. I'm not saying he should've scored, but he could've done a lot more then he did.

I'm a bit gutted to be honest regarding DS because I do think his time is up at the club which is a real shame.

Solanke ahead of him now for me.

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15 Oct 2017 14:10:01
A think it time sturridge was moved on for all involved, he needs something different. Its plain to see that that the might reds and sturridge are no longer good for each other.

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15 Oct 2017 14:26:23
I agree with all the comments above about sturridge he's scared to break into a sprint in case he gets injured again. for me while mane is out i would play solanke up top and drop courtinho back leave hendo or wijnaldum out the 3 CM ain't working if you watched coutinho yesterday he kept dropping back into CM to get the ball in my opinion his best position i would alo give WARD a run out.

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15 Oct 2017 20:46:36
With all of you here. Studge simply no longer has it and the worst thing for me was that Origi had to leave on loan cos Studge could not be moved (per Ed01). Origi may not be the finished article yet BUT he is determined, motivated and eager to do well and shows effort every time he plays. He has scored 22 goals in 2 seasons as a 3rd choice striker. There is NO team in the PL whose 3rd choice striker can boast about those numbers. NONE whatsoever. We could have used him now cos at least he would show effort, has pace and power to burn and is a good lad.

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16 Oct 2017 02:37:39
He'd be Perfect for Celtic,
The manager knows and rates him

He'd get to play in the Champs league to put himself in the big shop window,

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15 Oct 2017 11:24:37
Good Morning Eds
hope your all well and to everyone else as well
Ed 01 could you please when you find the time do one of your articles on either George Weah, Marco Simone, Jean Pierre Papin or Ivan de la pena
apologies if any of these have been written about or mentioned already
also ED 25 or ED 01 could you please give me your opinion on why you feel Liverpool have not won the title for so long as we have had some pretty good managers and some dam good players in that period.

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{Ed001's Note - they are all now in the list for the legends, cheers mate.

As for us, poor recruitment is the main issue. It has been appallingly bad since we lost Geoff Twentyman.}

15 Oct 2017 11:47:29
cheers Ed much appreciated.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

15 Oct 2017 11:51:40
Ed 01 Any chance of doing an article on Players who were lucky to be in the game and reasons how they actually made it. 2 that come to mind (you may disagree) Vinny Jones and Robbie Savage etc.

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{Ed001's Note - I have added that to the to do list. I think that would be an interesting article to research, so I will defo do that when I can. Nice idea. You do have a point, I mean Jones ended up in Sweden, slept in a car etc.}

15 Oct 2017 12:17:24
Nice recommendation Jayden, I'd also like to read something like that mate.

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15 Oct 2017 12:18:14
Cheers Ed 001. I look forward to reading the article in the future and interested to see who makes it on there.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you for the suggestion, interesting idea that one.}

16 Oct 2017 02:43:50
You mentioned Twentyman Ed, another largely unsung hero for Liverpool,
He'd be a great shout for an article, to show the greats he scouted for LFC.

You must have a long list to get through now Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - that is a great shout. Personally I think he deserves as much acclaim for our sustained period of success as anyone. A truly great scout.

The list was past 50 last time I counted, so should keep me going a while.}

15 Oct 2017 11:07:46
I am a little more optimistic then before about where we are going as a club and a team.
off the field things seem to be making progress sponsorship wise and on the field yes we are not where we should be in many eyes but take stock, we are in champions league currently, we now have a team that we expect to be beating man U and some of the other top teams where a few years ago we were hoping.
We have a manager who yes makes mistakes but fortunately for us doesn't just spend money for the sake of it, and will wait for the right player no matter how long it takes (Keita)
Im very happy after all this time that we can finally win matches and compete without sturridge being the main man (love him to bits) but a couple seasons ago we all felt that without him games would be tougher to win, now he is more a bonus to have then a be all and end all.
Maybe im just one of the fans who see the glass half full over being half empty.
I see plenty of room for improvement and for me that is the exciting thing, where will be be when we have all the right people in place and are firing on all cylinders? .
Now boys and girls is that not something to look forward to?

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15 Oct 2017 20:50:13
Spot on, JJ. I love your optimism in the eye of a storm. YTYhat is what being a supporter is all about. It is not easy as it is a roller coaster all the way through. If it was that easy, everyone would do it. I'm always optimistic that things will get better as long as we are not out of it totally so keep the faith my friend and support the team though it all as there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

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15 Oct 2017 10:49:08
I noticed Salah got some stick again yesterday (not for the first time) for not finishing chances ( even though he was our most creative player) yet Firminho is always defended for his finishing because of what else he brings to the team even though he is our striker. Similar to Hendo he is deemed essential to the team for what he brings but for me he does exactly what Allen used to do and Allen was more or less scape goated out of the club. As fans we seem to move the goal posts on what is deemed a good/ bad performance from 1 player to the next.

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{Ed001's Note - the same as Allen? Have you ever watched the two of them play? They are nothing alike. That is the most absurd comment I have ever seen on here.}

15 Oct 2017 11:14:24
How exactly are they even remotely similar? That comment is daft mate Ed001 is totally correct, they are nowhere near the same.

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15 Oct 2017 11:15:57
lol I'll take that as a compliment Ed 01 as I've seen some absurd comments on here mate. For me though I stand by the comment. Hendo offers more closing down wise but apart from that 98% of the time both their passing range is 5-8 yards sidewards or backwards.

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{Ed001's Note - what on earth? You never even mentioned Henderson. What are you on about?}

15 Oct 2017 11:26:24
Apologies I'm watching my son play rugby so rushed the initial comment so doesn't read great. I meant to compare Salah and Firminho for the crtitcism they receive for finishing and Hendo and Allen.

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15 Oct 2017 11:23:49
Ed 01 my initial comment I was comparing Henderson (Hendo) to Allen. Not Firminho. Reading my comment back I can see where I have caused confusion. My bad English I apologise. I compared Firminho and Salah on finishing.

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{Ed001's Note - ahhh now I understand. Ok but again I disagree, Allen was a headless chicken who did not understand how to press, Hendo does press. The problem is that the midfield 3 have no understanding and all just rush out to press the same usually.}

15 Oct 2017 11:42:58
I often wonder why we expect Firmino to score as many goals as a striker when he is clearly not a striker and never has been. If Klopp played Mignolet up front (don't rule it out) would we expect him to get as many goals as Rush or Fowler?

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15 Oct 2017 11:47:45
No worries Ed 01 perhaps I'm being too harsh on Hendo and I do actually think Hendo is a better player than Allen and agree on the pressing. Just think when Allen had a similar pass percentage to Hendo (for same range of passes) he was lambasted and Hendo is held in high esteem. Keep up the great work on the site mate 👍.

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{Ed001's Note - Hendo is not held in high esteem though, he gets pelters all the time. It is just some people will defend Hendo because he does show more at times, while Allen never offered a thing, bar huff and puff in the wrong areas.}

15 Oct 2017 12:40:19
Perhaps I am being a little bit too harsh on Hendo then Ed 001. Cheers for the replies and your views.

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{Ed001's Note - I just wish he would impose himself more on games, then there would be no debate. Unfortunately he is not playing in a position that gives him a chance to really settle any argument, it is far too limited a role and the most important things it entails cannot really be seen unless you only watch him all game.

Cheers for the chat mate.}

15 Oct 2017 14:20:51
Henderson will be replaced next summer by a proper holding midfielder ( let’s hope its Julian Weigl ) while Wijnaldum is replaced by Kieta!
Don’t worry lads mediocrity will end by this season! Proper midfield on its way!

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15 Oct 2017 20:36:46
If Migs played up front we'd have to tell him to aim for the corner flags.

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15 Oct 2017 10:14:26
Hey guys, when did we last score a goal from a coner kick? I don't remember at all.

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15 Oct 2017 10:43:54
Good question, me either.

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15 Oct 2017 11:02:40
🤔no clue either.

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15 Oct 2017 11:32:37
Never liked out swinging corners I feel that's a huge part of the problem.

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15 Oct 2017 11:37:32
Skrtel against Arsenal at Anfield I'm nearly sure.

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15 Oct 2017 13:04:16
Matip and Lovren both scored headers from corners away to Palace last season when we won 4-2 i think.

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15 Oct 2017 15:11:17
Ahh yes you are spot on IB.

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15 Oct 2017 20:58:46
That's a while back, IB I must admit.

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15 Oct 2017 20:58:46
That's a while back, IB I must admit.

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16 Oct 2017 09:10:24
Away to Palace last year we scored two, that's the last I remember.

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15 Oct 2017 09:21:36
Fair enough a good performance yesterday but without the 3 pts it feels like a loss. Klopp or whoever is over transfers has to take a lot of the blame for the position we find ourselves in. I am not going to get into talking about centre backs as that's been done to death. An out and out goalscorer playing yesterday and the game was won easily. Some people will say Sturridge but he is the shadow of the player he once was. I really cannot see where the goals are going to come from in this team.

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15 Oct 2017 11:11:56
We've won 3 of our opening 8 league games. Yes it was a decent performance yesterday but Utd came not to play. Against a team playing for a draw then a decent performance is the minimum we should expect. We should be creating a lot more and winning these games. Where is our Stevie G or Suarez etc to grab these kinds of game by the scruff and is our match winner. We finished 4 th last season and this season anything less is regression. Fans are burying their heads In the sand saying we are only a couple of points off 4th when in fact during pre season those same fans were saying we were title challengers.

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15 Oct 2017 20:05:42
How is it burying your head if you change your view with new information? Burying your head is when you don't change. As we have dropped points, too many to catch City i guess, it make sense to suggest a lower placing. I agree that anything below fourth is regression but that is somewhat self explanatory isn't it?

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15 Oct 2017 21:03:03
Yarmouth, Matip hit that ball the way any CF would have hit it so not sure what a top striker would have done there. Also, Utd played with a top striker and they were pants cos parking the bus does not mean that you should be poor in the final third and not be able to put 3 passes together on the counter (Gay Neville's words, not mine) .

I thought we could have nicked it myself and we already created more chances in this game than in the same one last season so that is already a slight improvement. We just need to keep working hard on being effective in both boxes and we'll be fine. As for the title, that should be on the back burner for now as we should focus on trying to score goals and keep them out before thinking of things like that.

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15 Oct 2017 08:59:12
A good performance yesterday. Not much from them. Promising for the future.

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Liverpool v Manchester United Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

15 Oct 2017 07:42:43
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Manchester United Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

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15 Oct 2017 08:14:37
Absolutely perfect review ed001 i wanted to see solanke starting and getting more oppourtunities as astriker he is gud and can be special if given oppurtunities.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you V, I agree he has been impressive. Interesting in light of this article: Moenchengladbach Sporting Director claims England are producing the best youngsters that are being held back by a lack of opportunities.

15 Oct 2017 08:11:14
Cheers Ed mate.

After seeing the Ox come on yesterday I want to see more of him, he's got more to offer I'm sure of it, if it was up to me he'd be starting next week.

Sturridge maybe needs more game time to get more confident/ fitter. To me though I'd find it difficult starting him, if he plays like that for a full game we'd be in real trouble, he just doesn't seem interested to me. Id have Solanke ahead of him at this moment in time.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't see a lack of interest from Sturridge, just a lack of pace. When he did try and close down, he was so far off the pace that he got nowhere near the player with the ball.}

15 Oct 2017 08:17:40
Good read that ed1. Fair review. Onto the next 1.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers Dom.}

15 Oct 2017 08:20:19
In other words Ed, it was like watching paint dry.

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{Ed001's Note - it was certainly close. Though there is usually a lot more movement on the walls as the paint drips downwards....}

15 Oct 2017 08:28:22
Love the article about Germany's love-in with young English players. This is exactly why England will win nothing at the senior level. They do not invest in their youth on the grassroots to the national level.

Every successful country in the past or present has done this. From France, Spain, Germany to Belgium and Portugal. Youth football is where everything is at and with the right coaching based on a set system, possession, technique and skill, these countries have thrived. U. S football is suffering from the exact same thing BUT theirs is worse as their kids would rather play American football or basketball than play footie

As for England? Yeah, let's throw money at it and some way, somehow, it will work. %0 yrs after 1966 (where England won the WC with a goal that should have been disallowed), we are still waiting.

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15 Oct 2017 08:36:37
Another good read Ed. Must have been a hard game to write up on.

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{Ed001's Note - very difficult mate. Just so little to pick out as worthy of mentioning.}

15 Oct 2017 09:21:44
LOvely read Ed1, whenever I see that sexy red shark I get excited so top notch. As an aside Lukaku did do well against us once, he scored two goals in that 3-3 game against Everton, not sure Lovren was there but just giving him props.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers Welsh, I had forgotten about that. Probably hid such a distressing memory to keep myself sane.}

15 Oct 2017 09:56:59
I didn't realise until watching the hilights later on how lucky lukaku was to be in the field, a penalty missed too, it's not good to always complain about what has gone wrong but sometimes the referees don't help.

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15 Oct 2017 11:16:20
Do you think sturridge has a jump in him? How many times will he pretend to go for a header and then not? This is a 6ft plus guy who I can’t remember the last time he won a header. I’d pick solanke over him every single time now. He can’t even be arsed to try and slow willing anymore.

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15 Oct 2017 06:38:59
Sorry for bugging ed but is the natches review done? stupid exam. ( ̄ー ̄) ニヤリhw was it ed01?

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{Ed001's Note - ohhh shoot no! I will do that now, I forgot sorry, was finishing off a player profile I had started yesterday and getting the match previews for today finished off.}

Julian Draxler

15 Oct 2017 06:20:16
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new player profile about, Julian Draxler

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15 Oct 2017 08:39:30
Ed 001 is this Draxler article a hint that we could be in for him or is it just at a request.

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{Ed001's Note - a request, it is more likely Arsenal sign him to replace Sanchez, if anything.}

15 Oct 2017 09:09:51
I rate the kid but Arsenal can have him for me, due to his injuries.

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15 Oct 2017 10:39:58
Fantastic player with all the attributes to be world class. Reminds me of a younger Cristiano Ronaldo just entering his prime but without the fitness levels, determination and consistency. The quality is there, but Draxler needs a coach who will play him regularly (when fit) and nudge him to get better and better. The environment at PSG will not let that happen so a move makes sense for him.
A move to Arsenal could do wonders for him, especially if it is to replace Sanchez. Gives him that air of responsibility and a coach who has patience with his players to learn and improve.

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