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18 May 2019 07:02:42
Hello Eds. A lot of speculation has been doing the rounds with respect to a return of Coutinho to Liverpool. Carragher and Thompson have also voiced out their opinion on it, but is there any genuine interest from our side to bring him back? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}

18 May 2019 10:35:55
I wouldn't want him back if he was free mate, not welcome, he can bugger off to Chelsea or somewhere like that for me.

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18 May 2019 10:37:37
OP, If any club is rumored to be interested in Cou, it is Chelsea and even that is not concrete at any level cos they have other options they are looking at. Cou is of NO interest to LFC IMO as that ship has effectively sailed (and the thumping he received along with his Barcelona mates should be all the proof anybody needs), and LONG may that continue.

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18 May 2019 10:54:28
The AM-sized hole that still exists in our team is testament, IMO, that Coutinho has never been properly replaced.
We have other targets almost certainly though.
I’d hate to see him back in the PL.

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{Ed001's Note - he almost never played at AM so how can that be even slightly true? He played on the left for us almost exclusively.}

18 May 2019 10:56:22
He’s a good player to come off the bench 🤝.

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18 May 2019 11:04:29
WE can get Brandt or Fekir for a fraction of what Coutinho would cost and his wages. Plus, Fekir and Brandt do not have long standing back problems.

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18 May 2019 11:08:50
haha Coutinho rumours come on will ya who would he replace? There is no player in the squad I would swap for him. NO, NO just NO.

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18 May 2019 11:12:03
I’m grateful for Coutinho’s contribution when he was at Anfield, player of the season for at least 2 of the years he was here.
We had a poorer team in general during his time and he did carry us on many occasions IMO.
I’m not happy about the way a move was engineered but that’s modern day football for you.

The team now is much better than when PC was in his pomp at Liverpool. Indeed the team’s overall intensity and workload has increased massively.
I think PC would be a bit lost in this team if he came back and I think it would take him a long time to recover that intensity if it was possible.
I just don’t see him as a Klopp signing, our players need to be constantly busy - like a Brandt or Fekir - and I don’t see that in PC.

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18 May 2019 11:24:34
Brandt does not want to join and fekir is old news
kai havertz is the one trust me guys
this kid is going to be a star
barring that bergwijn is the player i think most suits us right now other then kai.

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18 May 2019 11:31:15
Never mind the price or whether Coutinho is interested in the move. He is not good enough for our team anymore. He wouldn't get near the starting line-up and you don't pay circa £100m for an impact sub. I honestly don't think he's much better than Shaqiri. Run, cut inside, shoot, repeat. He has nothing else to his game. That is why since selling him we've gone from the fringes of the top 4 to being Champions League and Premier League contenders. He is over rated. Move on guys.

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18 May 2019 11:34:59
Havertz going Bayern. Maybe bring grujic in? Ziyech or depay for the wings?

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18 May 2019 11:49:53
Target Son instead 👍.

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18 May 2019 12:01:57
Son would cost more than Coutinho was.

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18 May 2019 12:22:27
Agreed Johncrow, if we signed only one player this summer i would love it to be Havertz.

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18 May 2019 14:22:25
I think coutinho was holding us back very selfish on the ball and not a team player think munchenglassbach may take.

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18 May 2019 17:02:24
If he’s not good enough for Barcelona then why would we want him. Simples!

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18 May 2019 17:32:59
Ron, Cou never carried us for "many occasions". In fact on many occasions, he went missing during games for us. He was a good player for us and made a huge contribution to our revival under Klopp (I remember him playing sick vs Stoke 3 seasons ago and helped us win a CL spot), just like Can, Klavan, Milner, Studge and Lallana (if the last 3 leave this season) did before him BUT let's not start over-blowing his contribution or say he "carried us on many occasions". That is not true.

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19 May 2019 14:43:25
Why is Fekir not an option? I think he certainly is. If memory serves me right (and I'm not trying to bring up the past or start any kind of controversial subject) LFC made a public declaration that they were no longer interested in VVD, after the string of events, and then bought him 3-4 months later. So basically anything can happen. It's all about identifying a need and fulfilling that need.

I liked the look of Ziyech against Spurs. He was very unlucky to have two clean shots bounced back by the post. If they had gone in, we would have a different opponent for the CL Final. Shades of Firmino too, with chasing the ball all around the field like a madman.

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Review Of The Day 18th May 2019

18 May 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 18th May 2019

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18 May 2019 09:24:23
No fabinho in the Brazil squad?

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18 May 2019 09:10:32
Thanks Ed, any particular reason Fabinho didn't get called up for Brazil?

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{Ed001's Note - probably hasn't had his nose far enough up Neymar's backside. Firmino only gets in because some powerful people, including Rivaldo, believe him to be the best player Brazil has.}

18 May 2019 09:22:22
Morning Tris hope your keeping well buddy. I must say it's great to see Carzola getting his career back on track.

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{Ed001's Note - that made me smile this morning. I loved watching him play. Fantastic player.}

18 May 2019 09:25:10
Cheers ed. Brazil must have some team if they don't need to include Fabinho!

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{Ed001's Note - or just not picking the right players.}

18 May 2019 09:25:43
Ridiculous that Fab is not in the brazilian squad!

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{Ed025's Note - hardly ridiculous shayan, he had a good end to the season and played well but brazil have a wealth of talent to choose from mate...yet another case of liverpool supporters over hyping one of their players i feel..

18 May 2019 09:34:47
I liked him as well mate, classy player. He had a terrible time at Arsenal.

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{Ed001's Note - so good to see him back.}

18 May 2019 10:19:32
Well first of all he didn't have a good end of season, more a bad start to the season only. Once he found his feet people could quite clearly see his quality. Fabinho is a very good player and if he isn't getting into the Brazil squad then the players keeping him out must be superstars, does anyone know who they would be? I dont!

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{Ed002's Note - Casemiro and Fernandinho.}

18 May 2019 10:26:58
Thanks Ed002. Fernandinho is clearly a very good player while Casemiro has hardly been pulling up any trees for Madrid.

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{Ed002's Note - Fabinho is not seen as consistent - it is no more than that.}

18 May 2019 11:14:52
Sounds good that rivaldo thinks firmino is Brazil's best player. Always good to know.

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18 May 2019 12:11:54
I'm not complaining fabs not in the Brazil squad would prefer non of our players to be in national teams if I'm honest give them a nice break then get them back for pre season.

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18 May 2019 10:00:08
Ed025 did you not see him for large parts this season? I get what your saying with the tinted red glasses etc but come on he has been quality and one of our best players. I think it’s a case of you having Blue tinted glasses on mate lol. Tbh I’m not arsed who plays international football and who doesn’t but the Brazil selector set up is and has been for a long time twisted to say th livery least.

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{Ed025's Note - after a very dodgy start he has done very well virgil, when i watched him at monaco i was not impressed and thought he would struggle in the EPL but he has proven me wrong, im not saying hes a world beater but hes certainly better than i thought mate, maybe bacchi thinks he needs a rest after all the games he has played and with the CL coming up?....or maybe he reads my reviews.. :)

18 May 2019 10:20:54
Ed025, ridiculous when you see that casemiro (Who had a terrible season with RM) was selected. And no I'm not over hyping him. I didn't say he was as good as Andre Gomes now did I ed?

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{Ed025's Note - if you did you would be lying shayan :), im not a casimiro fan either mate..

18 May 2019 10:42:15
Ed25, Fab had a very good season overall, IMO. If he is not picked by Brazil, that has nothing to do with his talent or performance cos if you know anything about how Brazil picks players, you would know that it is almost NEVER based on merit and has not been for well over 2 decades. For me, not arsed about it really cos it will mean we will have Fab for all of preseason fit and ready to go. Thanks, Brazil.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree with that redwolf, and whatever happens i will be cheering on the reds in the final mate..

18 May 2019 13:51:46
glad to see the kung fu ibra finally getting sorted with a ban
good footballer but seems a horrible lad
Pulis sacked seems like a lot of the types of managers are getting fond out now they won't evolve and just think tackling hard high balls and long throw ins is the way forward, just waiting for Warnock jr. at burnley to get found out now.

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18 May 2019 14:05:45
I think that Brazil squad in general isn’t up to scratch, some great players obviously but I don’t see a system or style or ethos just seems a bit like a ad campaign more than anything. I used to love watching Brazil play now I couldn’t care less. I may be too young to remember but I don’t recal a single player having so much sway in the international team at Brazil as Neymar does now and they’ve had better players, ronaldo Ronaldinho Rivaldo etc.

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18 May 2019 14:51:33
Ed025, you are one of a kind. Never change 👍.

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{Ed025's Note - i wont jurgenator....cheers mate..

18 May 2019 18:18:01
I thought it was crazy that Fabinho missed out after the season he had but understand why Fernandinho is ahead of him. But he’s far better than Casimero on this years showing. But as a Liverpool fan I’m glad he gets the time off in the summer.

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{Ed001's Note - why would Fernandinho be in ahead though? He lost his place in the City side in the second half, he only played as a rotation option and got injured when he did. Casemiro is about 8 stone overweight and plays like the pub player he looks like. He is crap!}

18 May 2019 18:57:12
Ed01 i personally wish even Alisson nd bobby weren't there in the squad! They would have beem fresh for the season🤨.

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18 May 2019 17:34:28
Top man as always, Ed25.

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{Ed025's Note - thanks mate..

19 May 2019 14:44:19
What amazes me is that players who have been around since the last millenium like Dani Alves, Filipe Luis, Miranda and Thiago Silva are still in the picture. So much for developing of the younger players to take over eventually.

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18 May 2019 06:04:12
Interested in people's thoughts as to how Liverpool should approach the final. My own view is to go aggressive rather than a more balanced approach.

I feel like Tottenham are a very dangerous side and like to press and put sides under pressure, so if we play it too casual there's a risk we lose the upper hand and just give them encouragement. Their players are likely to feel underdogs and like this is a once in a lifetime opportunity so if we let them get their confidence we could make things much harder for ourselves than we should.

I'd like to see us go hard after them from the first whistle and let them know who's boss and try make sure they don't have time to breath. Press high and hard and try to get the first goal early like we did vs Barcelona.

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18 May 2019 06:49:26
That last bit sounds like a dirty movie haha.

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{Ed025's Note - love it sandon..

18 May 2019 07:41:24
My tactics would be to go smash them. Run like nutters for 90 mins and give Spurs no respite while playing the skillful type of game we've played all season. Most players have a nice holiday after the final so no excuses for not putting in maximum effort. After the final whistle, Id like to see the Liverpool players shatered yet ecstatic.

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18 May 2019 08:00:10
tell robbo and trent if they both play to just pressure tripper and rose who can't defend.

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18 May 2019 08:14:19
Totally agree to chasing everything.

Love the dirty movie reference! Toxteth does Tottenham?

😂😂.

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18 May 2019 09:15:41
Personally I’m slightly apprehensive if the match descends to a Championship play-off -style slug fest. A de luxe version of the Leeds v Derby game the other night is what we don’t need really but it’s probably going to happen at some point.
Two English teams and all that.
I’d rather a more controlled game, play Gomez at CB (tough on Matip, I know) and a high line, controlled press out of possession, keep our heads and don’t tear arse around everywhere like headless chickens.

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18 May 2019 09:27:23
Don’t care as long as Jurgen gets to drop a few BOOMS!

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18 May 2019 11:06:20
OP if you know anything about LFC under Klopp, you would know that we always start big games fast and intense right from the first whistle. All you have to do is watch all our big games this season esp. at Anfield as well as the Barcelona game to know this. Even vs Spurs at Anfield, we started the exact same way and rocked them in that first half.

Also, remember when we played Madrid last season in Kiev, we had them on the rack for the first 25 minutes (they couldn't get out of their own half) until Salah was targeted by Ramos IMO (I say that cos he targeted Karius as well and got him concussed), and injured him.

Therefore to your point, I am certain that we will come out flying out of the traps vs Spurs cos it is simply who we are. We do not play any differently. Also, we are capable of playing high tempo football AND keeping things under control hence, controlled chaos if you like. This is what Klopp implemented at the start of the season to get us to the point of winning the PL and making the CL final and win it. So don't fret, our boys will be super-prepared for this huge task cos Spurs are NO slouches. Cheers, my friend.

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18 May 2019 11:13:22
Spurs have an incredibly fit team too don’t they? I agree with the approach suggested but they may be able to keep up with ha a little more than others can. On another note Goodluck to Watford today hoping for a Troy Deeney hatrick.

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18 May 2019 11:15:17
The thing with spurs is they are capable of running all day the break will of done them good.

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18 May 2019 11:54:46
I wouldn’t change anything for the final, play like we’ve played 90% of the season.

In sport a good mantra is “do what your opponent least wants you to do”. So on that basis Spurs have been complaining about fatigue and mental exhaustion. That will be ramped up 10x in the final, their legs will feel like lead when they go on that pitch.
So in agreement with the others, I would play high intensity football, I would get shots on goal early whilst nerves are jangling.
This is their first final, this is our second (with this squad) . We are wiser this time.

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18 May 2019 12:25:13
If we play to our potential then we will win.

We should play with intensity coupled with discipline.

It would have been a bit of a concern last season but our team has grown this season.

It is a final and anything can happen but so long as we have a fit Bobby Sadio and Mo up front then I am pretty confident that we will get number 6.

If we do get number 6 it will be an interesting debate as to whether we or Citeh had the better season.

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18 May 2019 17:37:33
Scouse john LB, and our team aren't super fit and can't run for all day? Or the break would not do us any good but would do them good? I don't understand the thought behind your post.

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18 May 2019 17:48:07
Agree with Juicer personally, don't just go out all guns blazing, look to control the game and work the chances. We have a lot of different outlets attacking wise and we have a capable defence. We could go all out, get hit on the counter, and be a goal down early - it's a Champions League final, I think the same approach we had last year (before Salah got Judo thrown), controlled attacking play, is the way forward.

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17 May 2019 20:32:04
Good evening all, haven't posted for a while, I'm one of those annoying people who go missing throughout the season and pop up again in the silly season!

A question for anyone who will answer or have any info.

Ruben Neves. any interest (still) there? I ask because of Pep Lijnders comments not so long ago? I know it may feel that we are sorted in that area but with Lallana/ Grujic possibly being moved on and Milner, Henderson, Gini nearing/ in the 30s, it would be a position I would look at.

Also, wondered if eds or fans had any idea on left back options?

Many thanks,

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17 May 2019 20:43:33
Without trying to sound silly, aren't all players under 30 nearing the big 3O due to the way time works.

P. S I learnt it from ed2, how time works.

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17 May 2019 21:03:54
Neves is a very good player, reminds a bit like Alonso, great passing range but probably wouldn't get stuck in like Xabi did. Anyway no chance of getting him and for me it would be Neves or Fabinho in the first 11 and I see no reason to drop Fabinho and both are too good to be on the bench.

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17 May 2019 21:16:35
Agreed TIR, if it weren't for Fabinho being here I'd be saying let's go for Neves but there's no point now. Fabinho took a while to get settled in but once he did how good was he? he'll be a vital cog next season as long as he stays fit, we don't need Neves as much as I rate him.

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18 May 2019 11:13:01
Neves is a player I truly adore BUT we have Fab there right now and besides, Neves will cost a fortune and since we are not City with deep pockets, we don't have that kind of money for a guy who will just be part of the midfield rotation. We already have that with Naby. I would love him to come BUT we don't need him right now. Our issues lie elsewhere at both FB positions, a reserve GK, a forward who can cover all three offensive positions and perhaps a no. 10 and a CB should Lovs leave.

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17 May 2019 20:13:43
This site should remain free. There are plenty of active writers and readers who will be glad to donate. I’ve just made a small donation and whilst it won’t break any records I’ll gladly repeat each month.

The whole badge thing is tricky. I want a badge next to my name so that people don’t think I’m the only one who hasn’t donated otherwise it’s not important to me.

I have an idea on how to differentiate. I entered a Game of Thrones competition recently with the prize being meeting Emília Clarke. It was a charity she was sponsoring. Here’s the clever part. There were different fixed amount donations and depending on how much was donated, the number of times I was entered into the draw. £5 gave me 5 entries, £10 gave me 10 entries etc.

Perhaps there is a monthly draw where something is given as a prize and each donation amount determines how many times somebody is entered.

Yes it does give the donator more opportunity to win but a) it doesn’t stop non donators from entering and b) only one person (or two) would win so nobody misses out on the site.

What do you reckon? Prizes could be low in monetary value but with the Eds contacts could be well appreciate e.g opportunity to meet a player.

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{Ed033's Note - Hi good idea, but surely meeting Ed001 would be more exhilarating than meeting a player :)

17 May 2019 20:47:53
Good idea mate
I would prefer the prize to be meeting an Ed over a player (esp. Liverpool one as I am a Utd supporter, I know it's not our page. ) but would you guys fly me there if I won? Now that's the tricky part, not all donors have to be from England or Europe, these pages do attract quite a few Asians and Australians too I believe.

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17 May 2019 20:13:51
Any chance we are interested in Wilf Zaha or David Neres? Thanks

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18 May 2019 11:38:06
OP, we have no interest in Zaha (and long may it continue as he is awful and inconsistent) . As for Neres, we are rumored to be interested BUT I don't think the Ed'sh have addressed this as a yes or a no.

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17 May 2019 20:05:28
Hi Ed, I posted about Ziyech but not gone up mate. Was it out of context?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the "dodgy" page.}

17 May 2019 20:36:48
Fair enough Ed. Think I will relax from posting for a while and see what develops.

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{Ed001's Note - Ziyech has been dealt with a hundred times.}

17 May 2019 20:48:31
Or the European page, there's a recent update there.

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17 May 2019 19:37:57
Hey ed001 hope all is well. I'm reading Leroy Roseniors book at the moment and one part reminded me so much of a recent player of ours? He's saying how much it infuriates him watching Premier League strikers not able to make the right sort of runs. Couldn't help think of a few seasons back I was at Anfield and Benteke would be starting and being so frustrated how static and uninterested he was. Do you have any thoughts on him from the time?

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{Ed001's Note - that is my thoughts, he would be constantly stood around on the edge of the box watching when a cross was put in. I just wanted someone to have a word and tell the lazy **** to get his arse in the box and be on the end of them.}

17 May 2019 20:19:25
Spot on, Bledd85 and Ed. Benteke is super talented BUT you wouldn't know it with the feckless, lazy way he played for us and has been playing for Palace since he moved there. I remember a game vs West Brom at Anfield where the ball was out wide and Benteke literally stood behind one of their CB's in the box waiting for the cross to come instead of trying to lose his marker and get into position to anticipate and attack the cross.

Ed01, I also remember another game at Palace where Emre Can had the ball and was about to swing one in. He looked up and saw that Benteke was just you guessed it, standing there like a lamp post. Can you believe that Can had to literally point a couple of times to Benteke, motioning him to move his arse into position for the cross? As a former CF at amateur level, I could not believe what I was seeing cos I mean, these are the basics of CF play. It was at that point that I knew it was time to cut bait with him and it has been one of the many great decisions Klopp ever made as LFC manager.

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{Ed001's Note - I can believe that, he is still doing it with Palace.}

17 May 2019 20:48:00
Funnily enough Wolf it was against Palace I really noticed it. We lost 2-1 if i remember correctly and me and my mate couldn't believe how static he was. Professional footballer just stood there in between centre halves not even attempting a run. Was incredible to see.

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17 May 2019 18:16:04
Hey ed 001 what did you think of crouch at us? On his podcast he says he regrets leaving us and wishes he just waited for Torres to leave as he would of started ahead of the rest. He also admits ignoring Rafa's tactics for selfish season's.

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{Ed001's Note - I liked Crouch, never top class though.}

17 May 2019 23:41:38
Crouch was a player that was really hard not to like. He was a excellent team player, scored goals, worked brilliantly with Torres and always put in 110%. He seems like a great guy aswell, really funny, must have been great around the club.

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18 May 2019 08:56:20
We conceded far less goals with Crouch on the pitch than off it. I think that just showed how hard he worked up front to keep possession.

I was gutted when we sold him and replaced him with Robbie Keane.

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18 May 2019 09:37:40
I like Crouchy, bit underrated too, I also think he comes across really well on his podcast.

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Thoughts On Liverpool FC's Possible Summer Transfer Plans

17 May 2019 17:56:55
{Ed's Note - LFCSTE29 has posted a new article entitled, Thoughts On Liverpool FC's Possible Summer Transfer Plans

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17 May 2019 19:35:01
So you are saying keita isn't an attacking midfielder? Okay then.

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17 May 2019 20:03:06
Might have been a slight omission on my part. But It might just be because I prefer him in a more box to box role, he is tenacious and fantastic when running from deep.

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17 May 2019 20:27:51
LFCSTE29, I like your article. Like Parsetheball, Ox and Keita can play the more advanced or the no. 10 role very well. However, Keita played the B2B role at RBL behind their no. 10 Emile Forsberg but ahead of the DM Diego Demme. Ox on the other hand, played the more advanced or no. 10 role for us last season before his injury.

The diff. with Ox at the no. 10 role was that tho he was not as flashy as Coutinho, he was more direct in his play and with the way he could break opposition lines with pace, power and aggresiveness, he was a nightmare for opposing teams. IMO, Ox was the main reason City got a true hiding in the three games he played against them cos those powerful runs were giving the City midfield fits and Fernandinho had NO answer for him. I firmly believe had the Ox been fit last season, we would have won the CL and prolly the PL this season cos we did not have a player who could do what he could do from midfield.

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18 May 2019 11:36:17
Thanks redwolf fully agree mate. Really excited to see ox back next season.

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18 May 2019 14:00:57
Interesting thoughts. From my perspective :

GK we clearly need a good backup if Migs leaves

In defence I think Matip has proved himself in recent couple of months so I’m OK with VVD/ Gomez starting and Matip and Lovren backing up at CB.

I don’t think FB is an absolutely critical position for us provided Milner stays because he’s very capable cover at left and right back if needed, however if he goes it becomes critical to get someone who is a specialist in the position and then let Adam Lewis step up as cover at LB. Don’t see any reason for TAA to move to a packed midfield IMO.

Midfield we’re very strong with Ox coming back. Fabinho, Gini, Hendo all flexible enough to play at either 6 or 8, and then Ox, Milner, Keita all able to play 8 or 10, with Shaqiri more of a no.10. My only consideration would be if we can bring in someone who’s a specialist goal scoring no.10 then Shaqiri can move on. I like him, but not sure Klopp trusts him, and so not sure he’s a long term solution. Lallana presumably should move on as too injury prone unfortunately.

The forwards are where I think we need to spend the most. To compete across the board next year we need more than just Origi as an experienced backup to our front three, and as good as Brewster may be, its a lot to ask and he’ll still get plenty of chances. Assuming Sturridge leaves, I think we should go for Brandt or someone similar who’s flexible enough to cover the wings and also the creative no.10 role if needed.

In summary a backup GK, specialist FB and a wide forward/ no.10 is all I think we need, with Migs, Moreno, Lallana and Sturridge presumably leaving.

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