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17 Feb 2019 08:34:30
HI eds haven't posted in a while. what would be you're opinion on Mitrovic of Fulham as a back up striker instead of origi and studge. would definitely change our attack as a plan b I think. thoughts anyone?

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{Ed001's Note - no thank you, good player but he needs to be number one, he admits as much himself. He would not be suited to being a back up.}

17 Feb 2019 09:16:50
Do you think he’d suit our team?
Doesn’t seem dynamic enough for me.

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{Ed001's Note - probably not, but he would allow a change in system.}

17 Feb 2019 09:18:20
On the subject of striker, Ed, what’s your opinion on Timo Werner?
Apologies if you’ve mentioned it before.

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{Ed001's Note - he is flexible enough to cover for all 3 forward positions, so I think he would be a good signing, if his ears are up to it.}

17 Feb 2019 09:47:46
I think it will end up Sturridge and Origi leave with Werner and Brewster to replace.

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17 Feb 2019 09:48:30
Do u think that's what influenced werners poor performance at the world cup ed, he was way off level required an obviously crowds would be loud due too occasion.

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{Ed001's Note - could well be, but I think it was more of a general malaise running through the German camp which was split.}

17 Feb 2019 09:58:58
I don’t like what I’ve seen of Werner, but we need someone of that calibre to rotate seemelessly.

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17 Feb 2019 11:00:01
ed2, prior to mitrovic moving to newcastle I recall you saying he woukd be a good option for us. Have things worked out for him in the prem?

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{Ed002's Note - Mitrovic would have been a good option as cover. Once he settled his goalscoring record for the past 18 months is pretty good given the poor sides.}

17 Feb 2019 12:28:18
I know this is just fantasy football but Son would be the ideal man to provide fantastic cover, competition and rotation for our front three.

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17 Feb 2019 13:29:10
Son would be a brilliant signing but it means either son, mane or salah are benched. City have a wealth in riches so why not us?

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17 Feb 2019 14:11:23
Robbiesline, with how we've played with a 4-2-3-1 formation for a large part of the season (against the 'lesser' teams), we could easily fit all of them in. Son could slot into the right wing instead of Shaqiri or Mane could shift over to the right whilst Son takes the left, or Son could even go up top with Firmino while Salah stays out wide. I'd imagine it'd be quite a fluid front 4 with how good the off-the-ball movement each of those player possesses.

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17 Feb 2019 14:32:10
Son will never happen.

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17 Feb 2019 14:35:49
Son can play ANY position in the forward live. He is the real star at Spurs, IMO. If Spurs are still in with a shot at the title, it is SOLELY cos of Son, IMO. He would be brilliant for us not just talent wise, but his work rate, work ethic and determination to be great, is exactly what our team needs.

As for Mitrovic, Ed01 is correct and would not want him even as cover cos the team has to play mainly to his strenghths.

As for Werner, I am still not sure of him even tho I have seen lots of his games (last season while keeping tabs on Naby) and to me, he misses too many chances and goes missing during games. It is for this reason IMO, that then RBL manager Hasenhutel benched him for the young Frenchman Georges-Kevin Augustin. Now if Klopp wants him and thinks he can do a job (Esp. since he can play all front 3 positions then, I'm game.

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Martin O'Neill

16 Feb 2019 15:48:57
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new manager profile about, Martin O'Neill

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16 Feb 2019 18:35:36
Thanks Tris. Given that we have been established in the top flight for 50 years or so and not yoyoing up and down, I’m so glad that O’Neil didn’t join us. I think he was being touted around the end of the Houllier era, wasn’t he? A lot of clamour from our fans at the time IIRC?

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{Ed001's Note - yes mate, no idea why though.}

16 Feb 2019 19:45:01
So was Alan Curbishley.

O'Neill spectacularly went to pieces in his last two years as Ireland manager. It wasn't just long ball or direct football, it ended up as "absolutely no football whatsoever". I don't expect an Ireland manager to try and have the Boys in Green try and pass their way around Germany or France, or even teams like Denmark who aren't exactly world class, but have a little extra that we don't.

But halfway through the 2018 World Cup campaign (at one point, Ireland led the group with a respectable away draw to Serbia and a win against Austria), we went away to Georgia, we scored early and then sat back and invited them onto us. It was Georgia. Not Brazil. We should've been able to play some bit of football against them, but once we were a goal up we didn't even try. Sure enough they equalised we drew the match and things kinda nosedived from there. I suspect Roy Keane's 'impact' on the squad was taking away from the only good thing O'Neill could do: motivate the players.

And then there was his fascination with changing the formation every other match, and putting Cyrus Christie and James McClean in every position but their best ones (admittedly in which they weren't brilliant in anyway) .

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16 Feb 2019 19:48:07
Actually now that I think of it, didn't O'Neill's Celtic side dump us out of the UEFA Cup in 2003 (the only thing memorable about that for us was the discovery of the rare Senagalese Spitting Cobra) and then went on to the final that year?

Could've been why some people were going for O'Neill.

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16 Feb 2019 21:23:21
As an Irishmen its hard to know what to think of O'Neil especially with how the last 2 or so years have played out. Its left a lot of fans including myself, bitter to say the least. But I think this profile pretty much sums him up, a great motivator who isn't the best coach of tactician. I feel like the games past him by now and I don't think he has what it takes to adapt.

The juxtaposition between him and Keane sounds like a fun idea on paper, but Keane is incredibly toxic and he needs to disassociate himself to have a fighting chance. Regardless the Euro's were fun ride and I wish him the best at Forrest. Cheers for the profile Ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

17 Feb 2019 12:55:50
What really got me about Keane in the Ireland job was the hypocrisy. I knew the man was an idiot and a bully, but I thought he at least had some degree of principle about how football should be played.

He was a poor enough manager in his own right, but he at least tried to have his teams play football. His big downfall seemed to be his inability to understand why Championship players couldn't play like him and Paul Scholes at their peaks if he shouted at them enough.

But with O'Neill, he sat there acting as the attack dog for a manager serving up the most negative, turgid, mis-shapen, disorganised crap I've ever seen from a football team anywhere (I really cannot put into to words how bad a game of football the 0-0 away draw with Denmark was, for example. Two pub teams playing on a bog the day after a triple 21st birthday celebration would've been ashamed of it) . Had he been in the dressing room as a player he'd have probably walked out on the squad in a huff. But he was happy to get a fat paycheck from the FAI to enable it as Assistant Manager.

And then to boot, after he's sacked, he comes back as a pundit spitting poison at teams who are 10 times better than anything Ireland served up while he was there.

Just a very poor quality bloke all round really.

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18 Feb 2019 00:14:27
Please -Something Red- never speak of the 0-0 away draw with Denmark. Potentially the worst game of 'football' I'm had the displeasure of watching in its entirety.

Keane was an incredible player, but like so many incredible players his ability as a manager, coach and even pundit is questionable to say the least.

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16 Feb 2019 15:42:09
I posted this earlier at 5.30 so maybe no one saw it. I’m coming up from London for the Bayern game but I’ve got to travel back that night. Can anyone suggest a supporters travel service or a forum where people share taxis etc? Any suggestions much appreciated x.

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16 Feb 2019 14:03:21
Edd001 have you done a james maddison profile yet. ? i've allways liked watching him play. Any chance if not please?

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{Ed001's Note - I have added him to the list for you. I don't think he has been done yet.}

16 Feb 2019 15:51:28
Could you add Djimi Traore to that list Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - I am not sure what list he belongs on, but legend certainly isn't it!}

16 Feb 2019 17:25:58
but he won the Europe league for us. lmao for the joke by the way ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - fair point and he did score a screamer in MLS footie.}

16 Feb 2019 18:19:39
I had to check the calendar to see if it was April 1st 😂😂😂😂.

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16 Feb 2019 23:20:54
Ah poor old Djimi was the butt of many a joke down the local boozer when he played for lfc. None more so when he scored an o.g. against I think Burnley in the F.A. Cup. Still though he is a champions league winner.

I’ve read since that when Rafa was being interviewed in regards to the champions league win he’d often point out the team photo that played which was hanging in his office and comment on the quality of that team compared to the night of AC Milan.

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17 Feb 2019 08:36:13
Niall42, Jonathan Greening, David May, Josemi, Toricelli, Pessotto (both of Juve) etc. all won the CL. That does not change the fact that they like Djimi Traore, were crap footballers.

I mean, Casemiro won three CL's with Real Madrid and he is still an average footballer. However, I would say that you need some average/ crap footballers in a team to win sometimes.

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{Ed001's Note - I am sure Niall is not claiming Djimi is top class, quite the opposite. Certainly that was always Rafa's point about the 2005 team, that he won it with a team that was much weaker.}

17 Feb 2019 14:05:25
Didn't he make a clearance off the line from Shevchenko in Istanbul? That's surely worth a place on the legends list on its own!

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17 Feb 2019 20:21:15
Djimi Traore -the new Marcel Desailly according to Houllier
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Djimi deserves ‘cult’ status rather than legendary status in my opinion 😎.

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16 Feb 2019 12:00:30
Marbella Training Camp Final Day: The squad flew home yesterday Afternoon, the only fitness concern was Shaqiri he still has Abdominal Issues although he did take part in some full on sessions. They played an 11 a side game no holds barred before they left the camp the Oldies (over 25) versus the Youngies (under25) and the Oldies ran out easy winners? The scoreline was kept secret.
The reason man utd playing Chelsea Monday night is so that they don't get an unfair advantage over us by having more days rest, well done the FA!

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16 Feb 2019 14:54:02
The game is on Monday due to TV and they will have an extra days rest.

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16 Feb 2019 11:19:49
Bit of a random one. Anyone know a decent plays to watch the big one on 24th Feb in Hanoi?

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16 Feb 2019 12:03:02
If you find somewhere in Hanoi, don't sit by any man utd fans you might ANNOY them! bum bum.

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16 Feb 2019 12:30:51
*sigh (gon) . From my travels, I've noticed it's very much split between united and LFC fans in this part of the world.

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16 Feb 2019 14:56:30
Hanoi doesn’t really have much of a nightlife, but there was a few bars that I’m sure will be showing the game. I will be watching in Hoi An, looks to be plenty of sports bars looking online.

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16 Feb 2019 16:31:09
Cobra, I'm currently in Da Nang, though think I will have moved on by the game. Heading to Hoi An tomorrow. If you change your plans and end up in Hanoi give me a shout.

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16 Feb 2019 17:04:49
I’d recommend puku sports bar in Hanoi. Open 24 hours a day and the foods not bad either especially if you feel the need for something western (gotta be done sometimes when you’ve been in Asia for a while! ) . They’ve got sofas and screens upstairs but get there early if you want a decent seat. Hoi An has a decent sports bar, can’t remember the name (something about a dragon? ) . You might struggle to find somewhere open late enough to watch what would be an evening kick off in the UK though. Also watch out for the shots in the late night bars in Hoi An, they’ll rip your insides out!

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16 Feb 2019 21:28:41
As FrankieSaysYNWA Puku bar is your best option mate (at least in my experience) . Hanoi doesn't have the best nightlife, but Puku is open 24hr. Great city otherwise though and the day trips to Ha Long Bay are incredible.

If you make your way down to Ho Chi Minh and need any recommendations give me a shout, lived there for nearly a decade while growing up.

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17 Feb 2019 02:33:17
Puku it is by the sounds of it. Think it's a 1pm KO in the UK? Thanks for the tips. Ho Chi Minh was incredible, will be heading back I think.

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16 Feb 2019 09:49:00
Just reading about Ozil's situation at Arsenal and thought at the right price he'd be a clever buy for Liverpool.

He's 30 but if he lowered his wages and we could sign him for a reasonable price he'd be a great buy. I think he fits Klopp sttyle excellently and I think he'd relish playing under Klopp.

They clearly want rid and we could possibly get a good deal due to his situation. He'd be an excellent feeder for Salah, Mane and Firmino.

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect it may only be you with these thoughts. But Arsenal do want his £350k wages off the bill.}

16 Feb 2019 10:25:14
His attitude is poor. Not in terms of work rate on the pitch (that is a total myth) but he doesn't look after himself and stays up all hours playing video games. Not to mention how much money he demands and genuinely thinks he is worth.

If he stopped playing Fortnite and accepted a 60% wage cut, sure, I'd take him. That'll never happen though.

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16 Feb 2019 10:33:52
Jonesred, I am struggling to see anything in Ozil’s game that makes you think he fits Klopp’s style perfectly. Perhaps you could explain please?

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16 Feb 2019 11:58:34
I don’t think his work rate is a myth at all. When he’s not on it he disappears. He’s also a flake. Yes he can pick a pass but he’s only going to go downhill now.

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{Ed001's Note - nonsense. You are talking utter bollox. He was said to not be on it in the World Cup but he created more chances than any other player, despite Germany being crap and going out early. It is a myth that he doesn't work hard and only those who don't watch him play believe that lie. He tracks back, he covers more ground than the rest of his team yet still some clueless people perpetuate this utter lie that he is lazy.}

16 Feb 2019 12:17:26
You know more about him than I do ed, I love watching him when he's on his game but it does seem that he shys away from the big matches. Is this a common misconception or is there truth in it?
Personally for the wages he wants I think we could sign someone as good or better.

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{Ed001's Note - complete misconception. He is another of those players who gets uncalled for abuse over things that are simply not true. I have seen him chase back into the right back position to cover when Bellerin was caught up field, he blocked a cross and someone else picked up the loose ball and the commentator said about how well the guy who picked up the loose ball had done to win it back! When the ball was passed back to Ozil, the commentator just expressed surprise that Ozil had come so deep to pick up the ball. He will never get the credit he deserves.

If you give him movement to pick out, then he will pick it out. His problem is the team around him have not been good enough since he left Madrid. He still manages to create huge amounts of chances, even when Arsenal would miss easy chances galore he was racking up assists. I just don't get what people want from him. They seem to think he should play the Kante role as well or he is being lazy. No one said Bergkamp was being lazy when he didn't chase back and Ozil is even more creative than Bergkamp in terms of numbers of chances. Yet all he gets is abuse.

I have often wondered if he would get the same stick if he didn't look a bit odd.}

16 Feb 2019 12:26:54
Ed01, looks like the perpetuation about that "utter lie" about Ozil not tracking back, by the media has worked a treat cos a lot of people seem to have bought that poor excuse of a talking point. I saw Ozil tracking back a tonne when we played them at the Emirates this season and in many other games over the years. Now does he go missing in certain games? Of course BUT who doesn't?

The media has made Ozil the scapegoat for all their problems. As if he is the reason their defence is crap or the reason why the reason they have slow starts to games. Here's another thing. If Ozil was as lazy as he is purported to be, how was he able to get near 90 caps for Germany, all under Jochim Lowe, who is a no shrinking violet? Just asking for a friend.

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{Ed001's Note - I just don't get why so many have it in for Ozil. It is like the stick Henderson gets, 99.9999% of the time it has no basis in reality.}

16 Feb 2019 12:30:51
High intensity sprints are the true stat not distance covered. The guys is like sturridge he knows its now expected of him so he tries to fake it, he's always just too late just too short to actually get there or he manages to get halfway there then the ball goes past him and he gets his excuse to walk. I'll never question his ability but seeing something nobody else does doesn't always make you the genius sometimes it makes you the fool.

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{Ed001's Note - such a load of nonsense. So how do you make up more bull**** stats to deny he creates so many chances when he plays? I mean the guy is just too late and too short but still creates so much, must be magic then? A guy walking back after the ball goes past him is normal for an attacking player, or even defensive players a lot of the time. High intensity sprints are only relevant in certain contexts. I suppose you must have hated Xavi too? I mean he barely sprinted in his life.}

16 Feb 2019 12:50:57
I'd love us to sign Ozil but I think the wages would be the death knell to any chance of that. Great player, superbly creative, I think he'd be incredible in our team.

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16 Feb 2019 12:54:56
I have also tried to make a post about Ozil, about he has been a favourites for Eds but obviously he is at the trough of his career.
So what happened to him now? Do Eds think he is coming back strong? And if money is not a problem, do Eds want the current him to be in the liverpool team?

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{Ed001's Note - he is a victim of Emery's inability to deal with personalities and egos. Throughout his career Emery has alienated star players and frozen them out. Except at PSG, when he was not allowed to drop Mbappe, Neymar, Cavani. Whether Emery has the ability to get anything out of him or not is a different matter, his team selections and tactics are odd to say the least.

Who would he replace in the Liverpool team? Maybe to play the role that Shaqiri does I would have him, yes. He has so much creativity you have to find ways to get the team to suit him. It is just that I would not want to break up a team that is top of the league. You don't fix something that isn't broke.}

16 Feb 2019 12:56:12
All fans need a Scapegoat I think Ed. Much better player than Ramsey yet some fans were frothing over him.
I hope he gets a move somewhere where he is appreciated.

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{Ed001's Note - it is a shame that Arsenal fans don't appreciate what they have.}

16 Feb 2019 13:37:01
Personally I’d have him and Shaqiri competing for the same role and alternate them depending form etc. Think he would be a very clever buy and I don’t think his arrival would upset the squad if he arrived in the summer.

Lallana leaves Ozil replacing him in squad. He has great passing ability and a good free kick taker. If they want rid so badly hopefully we could snatch him at a reasonable price. Wages an issue yes but he won’t get what he’s on now at most clubs to be honest.

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16 Feb 2019 13:44:51
Sorry, I don't have time to read the full thread but I'd love him to join Liverpool, people talk sh*t about him constantly and it's wrong because if he's watched properly he's a bloody fantastic player. People just miss what he offers, like eople miss what Firmino and Hendo offer, two people there who are vital cogs in our team. These days it seems all people pay attention to is goals scored and goals assisted, when there's much more to a game of football then that! Whatever the wages, I'd have him immediately, he's a quality player.

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16 Feb 2019 13:59:08
Perhaps there's a perception of him following that game at Anfield where he went missing. Did we score 4 in the first 20 minutes or something? Anyway, Ozil didn't perform and I think we have an impression of him from that game, however he was specifically targeted by us and by other teams exactly because he is a great player. By stopping him you could also stop Arsenal.

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16 Feb 2019 13:25:23
Good god no! Fairweather player, great when the sun's shining and your 3-0 up, when you have to dig in and battle he's anonymous.

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16 Feb 2019 14:52:09
Not getting into whether an Arsenal player is lazy or not. I used to think he was a great player and would have jumped at the chance to sign him but not anymore. He will be 31 in October and I think we can do better. You can argue the Arsenal team aren't him isn't good enough but if so, he'd have realised that himself yet still signed the last few years of his career away for the big pay cheque instead of going to a team challenging for titles and getting less wages.

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16 Feb 2019 15:00:10
I like him, he was brilliant at Madrid and although he’s had a tough 18 months he has done pretty well at Arsenal. I think Klopp could get a tune out of him but he would be a risk and one only worth taking if he was on less than half of his current wage.

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16 Feb 2019 17:29:45
thanks ed001 for the reply on Emery
appreciate your time.
so maybe one day Aubameyang would be his new problem?

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{Ed001's Note - more than likely.}

16 Feb 2019 18:32:35
Ed01, I was reading an interview with Pep Lijnders on the LFC website earlier today. Pep says that when looking at potential players for Liverpool, character and attitude come even before talent. I wouldn’t dream of claiming to know more than you about Ozil’s ability, talent and even his work rate but do you think he still has the character and attitude to be a useful member of the Liverpool squad? For what it’s worth, in my opinion he doesn’t.

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{Ed001's Note - no idea.}

17 Feb 2019 09:28:16
He was brilliant at Madrid, even C Ronaldo said so and threw a massive paddy when Ozil was sold.

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{Ed001's Note - the fans adored him there as well Ron. For months after he was sold they chanted his name.}

17 Feb 2019 13:40:55
We can't afford him and I don't see klopp signing a 30 Yr old on such high wages. Won't happen. I think it's the fact that often he doesn't "turn up" to the games gifting him the label "lazy"

When he's on it he is a real nice player to watch. Always seemed to play better for Germany than arsenal. Maybe that is something to do with the lack of genuine quality around him at arsenal these last 4 yrs.

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16 Feb 2019 09:30:05
I don't think we should be expecting so many expensive new signings this summer I think some will be replaced by youngsters already at the club, and maybe one or two big money signings at most. That isn't to say some on lower fees wouldn't arrive.

We have so much quality waiting to break though that between now and August I think the odd youngster is already being considered to replace some first teasers known to be leaving.

In terms of full back we know Moreno, Randall and Clyne will depart. However we have Hoever, Camacho, Lewis, Ayorro, Gallagher and Juanma waiting in the wings. I think full back is the most likely position a youngster comes through.

We also are expecting Origi, Sturridge, Lallana, Mignolet and possibly Milner to leave. I think it is here the bigger sums will be spent on players. Werner maybe with Brewster as a reserve?

In terms of midfield we've been linked with so many, plus we have Keita to hit form, and Chamberlain to come back.

Out of the linked players there's already Felix, Brandt, Fekir, Rabiot, Dembele etc. I think departures may determine who if any sign.

Keeper will be most tricky as it will be someone expected to sit the bench most of the season.

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16 Feb 2019 09:50:03
Teamers not teasers.

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16 Feb 2019 10:08:26
I think depending on who leaves, the HG quota will also play a part in who we look at bringing in.

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16 Feb 2019 11:32:08
I know it’s a cliche but some new faces are always needed. Just look how Gini has reacted to it. It’s the competition that stretches the existing players.

We have enough youngsters coming through. I’d like to see an experienced player come in and give us 2-3 seasons. Maybe CB coverage.

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16 Feb 2019 11:51:04
I think regarding the HG quota it appears that we will be promoting academy players up to replace those outgoing rather than spend £30-40 million on a HG player (Bournemouth paying for Solanke is a good example of wasted money for HG) . Sturridge, Milner, Lallana and Moreno can/ will be replaced by Wilson, Brewster, Woodburn and Adam Lewis etc etc. It will be great to see the academy players in with a shot of making the first team squad.

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16 Feb 2019 11:55:54
I think James maddison would be a great buy.

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16 Feb 2019 12:29:08
Red911, James Maddison has to show that he can hack it at the PL level for a few more years before he can claim to make the step up to a title challenger CL contender, which we currently are. No more one season wonders, I'm afraid. We of all people know how badly those types of signings can go.

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{Ed001's Note - I said James Maddison was special last season mate, he is good enough. I got a fair amount of stick for putting him in my top 10 attacking midfielders, but I stand by that, the lad is class.}

16 Feb 2019 13:06:00
Buying players should be about ability not how long they've played or how old they, he would fit the way we play .

Better than over paying for foreign player who haven't played in the premier league.

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16 Feb 2019 13:40:36
We really will win things won't we having a load of academy players on the bench versus City's quality experienced players won't we?

Why don't people think before they open their mouths.

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16 Feb 2019 13:30:27
What we spend depends on which of the front three players leave and when, keep the squad together and I'd be shocked if we spent more than £40 million, keep the squad together and really strengthen with a top class centre half right back and attacking midfielder then as I've said previously I'd thaw a little towards the club's owners, but that won't happen.

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16 Feb 2019 14:08:50
Maddison is good but David Brooke is better.

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16 Feb 2019 14:58:32
City have a few academy players in their squad aswel Hessle like Foden and Zinchenko, and Pep may well bring a couple more through over the next few years. im all for going for top players to help us compete but the likes of Sturridge, Lallana, Origi, Moreno and Mugs hardly need a load of cash being spent by the club to replace now do they.

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16 Feb 2019 16:04:22
Just my take on that I see it as fragments as in ones certain to leave ones likely to leave so I’d say.

Moreno. Juanma, Gallagher, Lewis (one of) to replace.

Clyne. Camacho, Ayorro or Hoever (one of) to replace.

Lallana. Wilson, Grujic or a new signing (one of) to replace.

Sturridge. Werner (possibly) to replace.

Origi. Brewster to replace.

Mignolet. New signing to replace.

I’d say above are definite departures, and below some maybes.

Milner. Grujic, Wilson or new signing to replace.

Matip or Lovren. New signing to replace. (We’d all love De Ligt but don’t see it) .

Then there’s a cluster of youngsters who will likely be moved on next window such as Randall, Kent, Ejaria, Ojo, Chiravella, Woodburn (possibly) and maybe Wilson.

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16 Feb 2019 19:17:54
That sounds about right Jonesred.

A couple of tweaks:

I think we may get a firs team RB to allow TAA some chances in midfield too. I reckon Wan Bissaka would be ideal.

I’d also throw Alderwereild into the mix for CB. I reckon one of Matip or Lovren will definitely leave this summer.

I also think Milner will (sadly) go to Leeds. I think Rabiot on a free will come in.

Grujic may go depending on preseason. I’d like to see both Wilson and Kent stay with us and be bench options alongside Werner next season.

So, Werner, Alderwereild, new Gk (probably older), Wan Bissaka and Rabiot for me this summer.

A large clear out and we, ’re probably looking at a net spend of a lot less than £50m, imho.

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16 Feb 2019 22:00:56
Waro, if the the club got a center half, right back and attacking mid for 40 million I bet you would be calling the owners cheap.

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17 Feb 2019 09:05:22
I think Waro is talking of net spend, AussieMark.

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17 Feb 2019 13:41:50
I think we will see 2/ 3 big signings. Add when you're strong.

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Review Of The Day 16th February 2019

16 Feb 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 16th February 2019

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16 Feb 2019 08:11:39
Thanks Ed mate. I hope justice prevails and ramos gets a full ban for another blatant act of cheating.
Excuse my ignorance Ed but I couldn't for the life of me understand the meaning of the picture you used.

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{Ed001's Note - I couldn't find a decent pic to use in relation to the stories, so just grabbed one I had been sent ages ago as I was running close to the time when it would automatically upload the article and send out the links.}

16 Feb 2019 08:14:20
Thanks Ed.

What is the pic (about Giggs) about in relation to the stories today?

Thanks
Red Sandman.

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{Ed001's Note - none mate, it was just a time issue, I couldn't find a picture in time so just had to use something random.}

16 Feb 2019 08:42:24
Thanks for that Ed, I'm still trying to work out who is more stupid between Hennessy and Ramos. Surely they both know that the whole football world know they're guilty of their accusations, Ramos because he actually admitted it before backtracking and Hennessy because his excuse is poorer than you'd expect from a toddler. Obviously Hennesy's is a lot more serious due to what his actions represent but I'm talking of the denials in general when caught red handed. Just baffles me how stupid these people thinks the fans are. Hope you have a good weekend.

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{Ed001's Note - I really do not get their denials at all. Ramos plain as day said he deliberately got himself booked. There is no point backtracking and denying saying it. He could have easily said that it was just a misunderstanding, he was hyped on adrenalin (probably extra adrenalin from one of the many exemptions he uses for big games on a regular basis) etc and did not mean it the way it sounded. To flat out lie though, well that just makes things worse. Still he plays for Real Madrid so he will no doubt be cleared of all charges!

As for Hennessey, if anything he has his mouth covered like he is trying to whisper, not shout louder. The guy is clearly an imbecile who just can't own up to making a bad joke about the German guy who the picture was for.}

16 Feb 2019 08:48:41
The picture made me chuckle at least ed.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

16 Feb 2019 09:19:22
Ah that makes sense Ed. I was expecting to see a story about shrek aka Rooney. 😂.

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{Ed001's Note - why Rooney? What has he got to do with the picture?}

16 Feb 2019 09:35:08
Just assumed he would be the type to have 'played with his brothers wife' but assuming it's referring to giggs as mentioned by Sandman?

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{Ed001's Note - of course it is Giggs.}

16 Feb 2019 09:45:24
Thanks very much Ed, have a good Saturday mate.

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{Ed001's Note - you too mate take care.}

16 Feb 2019 10:06:00
Apologies Ed haha, I'll crawl back under my rock.

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{Ed001's Note - did you really not know about the Giggs affair with his sister-in-law which he spent years trying to shut down newspaper reports about? I mean there is even an advertising campaign with his brother referring to it running at the moment!}

16 Feb 2019 10:29:00
Honestly can't recall hearing about it Ed. News like that doesn't really tend to make it down under. I guess we have enough of our own local sporting controversies. Excuse my ignorance. ;)

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{Ed001's Note - ah ok. He did have one of those super injunction on the news for years.}

16 Feb 2019 10:44:23
Cheers for the clarification Ed!

I remember before the Giggs story broke. Everyone would always talk about how much of a sound bloke he was. The type of lad you would feel happy about inviting round to tea with your ma! The best ambassador of football you could wish for! How wrong we all were. There are not many things worse in the world than having a multi-year long relationship with your brothers misses.

Red Sandman.

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{Ed001's Note - it certainly changed his image completely! Makes you wonder how much more is hidden away about him. Would explain why Fergie worked so hard to keep him out of the limelight.}

16 Feb 2019 10:46:09
Thanks for the info Ed. Could be that I'm just so used to hearing about players doing stupid stuff that it went over my head. Hope you have a good weekend mate.

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{Ed001's Note - yeah I guess. I suppose football is not that important down there either so wouldn't be such big news. You too mate.}

16 Feb 2019 05:48:00
Hi Ed001, hope you are well.

Would you be able to clarify the following?

Lets say club X bought a player last season from club Z and club X want to sell that player a season later still owing much of the transfer fee.

Would club X have to settle the balance of the fee owing to club Z for the player should club X choose to sell?

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{Ed001's Note - club X would just be bound by the previous transfer agreement, so would have to pay the balance at the agreed time.}

16 Feb 2019 07:12:57
This has Coutinho written all over it 😂.

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16 Feb 2019 08:17:38
Probably opening a can of worms here, but what would happen if there were performance based add ons in the initial agreement Ed? I guess it would probably depend on what was agreed?

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{Ed001's Note - if there were performance based add ons it is just unlucky. When you agree a deal like that it is a risk.}

16 Feb 2019 12:23:09
I understand that on a few occasions some contracts with performance based fees and payments are protected by penalty clauses in case a club sells a player, the player gets injured or the player goes on strike, refuses to play etc etc. Portsmouth received performance based payments for Benjani when he flopped at Man City due to these "protection clauses". Id be surprised if Michael Edwards hasn't concocted a deal that would benefit Liverpool regardless of the successes or failings of other clubs or players. It's kinda like having insurance on an investment, the club will receive some proportion of the performance based add-ons in the event of an early sale etc.

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16 Feb 2019 13:37:48
I had this same chat with Ed002 a few weeks back.

Importantly, if they do sell him, they can still pay the stage payments as planned (non-performance related) . They don’t have to pay them all up front. So they could sell him entirely for cash up front and still be cash positive as there are some phased payments due upto (IIRC) Jun 20.

It’s just tough luck about the performance related bonuses, albeit it’ll mainly be the appearance related ones we will miss out on, as well as the ones linked to Barcelona winning the CL, unless they do this year.

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