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15 Jun 2018 12:04:23
Ed's, do you think Madrid's reluctance to pay the asking price for Alisson could mean the door is still open for a move to Liverpool?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea how to answer this - you are not expecting Roma to sell him cheaply to Liverpool are you?}

15 Jun 2018 12:22:24
Not at all, what I mean is florentino Perez has publicly scoffed at Roma’s asking price, maybe Liverpool would be willing to pay more?

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{Ed002's Note - More than what?}

15 Jun 2018 12:26:27
Ed2 is the fee roughly £44m as reported or is that wide of the mark?

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{Ed002's Note - The fee for what?}

15 Jun 2018 12:36:46
The fee requested for alisson.

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{Ed002's Note - They would look for something like €90M.}

15 Jun 2018 12:58:14
lol your guys really allow E002 to play with you.

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15 Jun 2018 13:02:06
I think Ed002 is trying to break it to you all gently that Alisson is going to Madrid.
We had interest but he wants to go to Madrid, Madrid want him to go to Madrid, so he will go to Madrid.

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15 Jun 2018 13:16:40
You know how to wind people up ed hahaha, love it!

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15 Jun 2018 13:45:05
He's not worth €90m in my opinion. That would be complete ineptitude and reckless spending. I'd rather stick with Karius and spend €90m on an attacking midfielder and back up winger!

As always Ed002, your insight is appreciated! Thank you, señor!

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15 Jun 2018 13:45:28
Forget Alisson chaps. He isn't coming. Full stop.

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15 Jun 2018 14:14:58
Question for MK : would you be happy for Liverpool to pay €90m on a player to win the league?

For me, sticking with Karius forfeits any chance of the title.

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15 Jun 2018 14:52:11
Ron, Karius has only played 29 Premier League games. How can we write off a 24 year old keeper after less than a full season of matches? In those 29 games He's let in 26 goals and kept 13 clean sheets.

You can't credit him entirely with that impressive record because there are other factors to consider, but it does make it pretty clear that he isn't so bad that it is detrimental to the team over the course of a season.

The problem is, the OP is 100% correct. Football fans are fickle. Karius has had two bad games for Liverpool in nearly 50 appearances in all competitions. One against Bournemouth and one against Real Madrid. How can you say he isn't good enough to win a league title when he was good enough to help us to the Champions League final?

I've seen teams win league titles with worse keepers than Karius! Joe Hart, Kasper Schmeichal, Iker Casillas, Victor Valdes etc. €90m on a keeper is ridiculous. If the 10 men in front of them are good enough they should be a spectator for about 20 games a season.

I would love a top class keeper, but for €90m I would expect Oblak or De Gea! Not Alisson. That's just my opinion though. I can live with a 24 year old keeper showing signs of improvement, who has 1 bad game in 25. Contrary to Popular belief, even De Gea has at least 2 bad games a season!

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15 Jun 2018 15:08:37
I think whatever happens, our goalkeeper next season will be under the spolight. That is just the culture that Simon Mignolet has created with 5 years of below average performances.

Because of the standard set and scrutiny attracted by Mignolet, Karius is micro-analysed. I don't think he is a top keeper. He is definitely a good keeper, but he does have flaws.

Unfortunately, he picked the worst game he could possibly have chosen to have a bad game. Maybe it was concussion, maybe that had no affect. Either way he made the errors.

I would urge all Liverpool fans to have a look at what Bruce Grobelaar said about Karius though. Bruce had his fair share of second chances and now he would be in about 50% of Liverpool fans all time best XI's. Maybe I'm too loyal, but If Klopp decides to stick with Karius (i doubt he will, but hypothetically speaking) then I will not be losing any sleep. For me, our priority is replacing Coutinho and then signing a back up wide forward so that next season Salah can be subbed off for the last 15 minutes, without us crumbling and becoming toothless.

If there is still €90m hanging around after That, then I'll condone wasting that on a keeper who is fast becoming vastly over rated. He's not an instant saviour and he certainly doesn't guarantee a league title. Last I checked, Juventus won Serie A.

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15 Jun 2018 15:25:51
Totally agree with that MK. If Karius is out GK next season then that’s fine by me, we should get behind him and support him because I think there is the potential he could be a top class keeper but he just needs to work on things mainly decision making and concentration.
I too would love a top class keeper to come in but there is only so much I would pay.
YNWA.

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15 Jun 2018 16:00:30
The voice of reason as ever MK. I have been guilty of over acting as concerns Karius if I'm honest.

People saying we can't win the league with him but we very nearly won the ucl which is probably harder to win with Karius in goal.

I don't think Alison is worth 80mil and I agree, I would rather spend that money to sign a world class playmaker. Karius isn't that bad but on the other hand, I don't wanna describe any of our first 11 as "not that bad" if Alison moves then navas is surplus and despite some people's views on him I think navas would make us harder to beat.

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15 Jun 2018 16:35:49
So in Karius 29 games for Liverpool and his 13 clean sheets can anyone remember a game where he gained us a point or even 3 points.

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15 Jun 2018 16:30:45
I maintain that if we can’t get an elite level keeper, then keep the money and invest elsewhere. I would add that our midfield will be in far better shape next time we’re in a final. Do you think Bale would have had time to line up that shot with Keita snapping at him or Fabinho closing him down? No he wouldn’t. Will Karius look twice next time before throwing the ball? Of course he will.

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15 Jun 2018 16:43:26
Prince hendo, Navas would not make us harder to beat. He makes worse mistakes than Karius could ever make. Have you ever actually seen him play? He’s appalling. He’s not fit to wear the shirt. He’d be targeted by the teams that play long balls into the box because he’s a flapper who does not deal with crosses very well. I’m assuming you must be aware of how badly Bravo has done at City? Because that’s what we would be buying with Navas, as they are almost carbon copies of each other in terms of ability. If we aren’t getting a top drawer keeper then stand by Karius and support him. He won’t be as exposed as he was next season behind a more solid midfield containing Fabinho and Keita.

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15 Jun 2018 17:08:14
We won't lift a single trophy with that Keeper. Get rid and buy a top one like BIG TEAMS who win things do. Sick of mediocrity.

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15 Jun 2018 19:46:46
€90m is a lot for Alisson. I think if we offered £50m for Courtois, there's a chance they'll listen as he can go for free next year. But it's not my money, if the owners and Klopp think it's worth it, I say go ahead. £75m for VVD seemed to be way too much but turned out to be a great signing.

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{Ed002's Note - Why would Courtois want to move to Liverpool? Why would Chelsea be interested in such an offer for a player Liverpool have zero interest in?}

15 Jun 2018 19:53:11
We nearly won the champions league with Karius, we didn’t win it BECAUSE of Karius.
It is much harder to win the premier league than the champions league. Knockout is always easier than league.

If Klopp doesn’t upgrade Karius, next season will probably be his last. The owners want to see us win something.

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15 Jun 2018 18:08:14
We won't lift a single trophy with that Keeper. Get rid and buy a top one like BIG TEAMS who win things do. Sick of mediocrity.

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15 Jun 2018 20:06:11
I'm not saying they would interested @Ed002. I'm saying it could be worth a punt as he is out of contract next year. He also might not be interested but if you don't ask, you don't get.

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect you really don’t understand how the whole transfer process works.}

15 Jun 2018 20:06:11
I'm not saying they would interested @Ed002. I'm saying it could be worth a punt as he is out of contract next year. He also might not be interested but if you don't ask, you don't get.

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{Ed002's Note - I suspect you really don’t understand how the whole transfer process works.}

15 Jun 2018 21:25:46
Courtois might want champions league football 😄

Kidding ed 😉.

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15 Jun 2018 11:43:27
A bit of advise for the match tomorrow, don't let MK give a team talk, it will go on and on and on and on. joking 😉.

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15 Jun 2018 12:22:08
I'm leaving that stuff to Kenneth and Tristan!

I'll do my talking on the pitch 💪

It'll go along the lines of "water! Please! Call 999!"

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15 Jun 2018 13:16:06
You’ve done enough talking on the WhatsApp group MK 😂😂. I expect a buoyant MK full of chat before KO and then a deflated MK at the final whistle. Game on! See you tomorrow.

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15 Jun 2018 13:38:46
Good luck guys, hope you all make it to the final whistle safe and sound, and a great day is had by all. Genuinely impressed with the efforts of everyone to get this going, I doth my cap to you all.

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15 Jun 2018 13:46:13
Liver1980, you are not ready for what I shall be bringing tomorrow!

Disney Greatest Hits on BoomBox. LET IT GO!

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15 Jun 2018 18:01:08
What is the Facebook link to stream. I won't be in England until next week but would still like to watch ( or laugh)

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15 Jun 2018 11:11:35
Hi eds

Long time reader and very occasional poster .
Firstly love this site and a big kudos to all the eds and posters for making this site what it is apart from the few that like to make it difficult, however my question is for ed1 specifically as I don't recall reading your view on our keeper situation and would love your opinion.

Basically ed1 would you give Karius another season to banish the demons from the UCL final and see if he has what it takes to make the position his for the long term knowing that an Allison seems out of reach or would you change for the sake of change just because we seem to think that he is scarred beyond repair .

Again thanks in advance and can't wait for the new season to commence as I see us really contending on all fronts next season

Kind regards.

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15 Jun 2018 11:02:13
Happy Friday all.

E001, 02, 333 and 25 and Posters.

Moving away form transfer, what's everyone's views on safe stand? I'm torn to be honest. Whilst the subject is a sensitive issue there's a couple of reasons why I'm in two minds.

My seat on the kop is block 106 row 22 so I'm in relatively low position. We tend to stay seated apart from when Arsenal, City, United etc come to town ( and European games) when pretty much the whole kop stands. Where as the back end of the Kop stands no matter who we play.

For those of you that go to away games you'll know that we always stand, no matter whom we play. It's the same when away supports come to Anfield, they all stand.

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15 Jun 2018 12:09:20
Standing lends itself to a better atmosphere imo. When I sit (which is dictated by those around) I find myself and those around are much quieter but this also coincides with the magnitude of the game. Bigger team-the crowd normally stands and creates a better atmosphere. Lesser team-fans sit and maybe expect a win and don’t get behind the team as much.
If it can be trialed and works I’m for it but I can imagine others will be against it. My dad was at Hillsborough and didn’t renew his season ticket after that and refused to take me on the kop as a child until it went seating and I imagine the thought won’t sit right with a lot of people who lost love ones that day.

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15 Jun 2018 12:15:41
Whilst being very sympathetic towards our fans and what happened in Sheffield, I always loved standing on the Kop. I’ve never felt the atmosphere has been the same since but that may be for lots of reasons and not just standing. I’m pro safe standing and giving people a choice about where they would prefer to be in a ground.

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15 Jun 2018 13:03:53
If the families of the 96 say “no” to safe standing for whatever reason then the answer has to be no.

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15 Jun 2018 16:55:29
People only stand anyway. What happened in Yorkshire would never happen again. I totally understand liverpool reluctance. YNWA x.

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15 Jun 2018 17:25:13
I'm very much against it. 'What happened in Yorkshire would never happen again' sorry PH but you can't say that mate, it may, if there's even a slight risk it shouldn't be allowed and there is always a risk. Huge no from me.

Whilst it may create a better atmosphere standing, we're talking about peoples lives and when it comes down to people being safe imo there's no discussion. What happened before we never want to see again and I don't think we ever will but you just never know. I'd leave things as they are.

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15 Jun 2018 19:56:08
Where’s the proof it’s “safe”?

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15 Jun 2018 10:21:23
Shoutout to Benny, Ed1 and Ed2 and all the team members for tomorrows game, what you're all doing is a wonderful thing, if only there were more events like this but I'm glad you're planning on doing this on a yearly basis. I'd of loved to of attended, but time off these days is pretty rare so I'm spending it with my family. I hope you all have a blast of a time, I'll be watching :) . ­

If Benny or one of the Eds could let us know exactly how much was raised after tomorrow? if the target is still £1000 and you're short, I'll be happy to make it up.

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15 Jun 2018 11:05:47
So the crowdfunded ended prematurely, my mistake by the day set on it. But that raised £300 ( thank you all ) the players donations currently sit at £210, however there’s plenty to come in the day.
I’ll be opening another crowdfunder tonight in the hope for a few more donations.
Thanks for the well wishes Salah.
All that’s left to do now is pick up the platform and iPhone tripod to give you all the live video. Oh and need to find a commentator lol.

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15 Jun 2018 14:17:06
I'd love Harry on commentary please make it happen.

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15 Jun 2018 16:56:10
Well done lads.

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15 Jun 2018 17:19:04
Cheers Benny.

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15 Jun 2018 08:52:31
Eds. With PSG requiring to raise 50m from player sales before end of June, to adhere to FFP rules. Have we looked at any of their players? Obviously Draxler you have mentioned before. What about Guedes? at 21 he has some great qualities. Ball carrying. Riding Challenges. Very quick acceleration. Decent shot. I thiñk Klopp could make him a superstar! What's your opinion?

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't understand why people keep asking about PSG players. I have explained about DRaxler on numerous occasions.}

15 Jun 2018 09:31:18
As much as I love these pages, I do think that ed002 is often very terse. I understand that patience can be tested with some of the questions, but this one concerning Guedes - who is not really mentioned anywhere else - is viable and I'm not sure deserves the kind of response you've given.

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{Ed002's Note - Why ask on the Liverpool page? It is nothing whatsoever to do with Liverpool. Embarrassing seeing people write rubbish like this.}

15 Jun 2018 09:31:59
If they don’t hit the FFP deadline they’ll probably get a fine looking at other teams. PSG can afford those. They won’t be railroaded into selling off cheap or players they want to keep. RTP on Draxler. Ed002 has given information, absorb it.

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{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new - I suggest you read the post from August 2 on the European pages where it is made perfectly clear.}

15 Jun 2018 09:53:10
bakedbeanboy, it was hardly a bad response was it?

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15 Jun 2018 10:10:13
Ed002 ate my entire birthday cake with a fork that had RTFP etched on the handle; and made me watch the whole thing 😭

You got off lightly kid.

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15 Jun 2018 10:32:01
Salah, at this very moment agents from Spirit of Shakily are roaming the wilds of Cornwall on a hunt for Ed002. Once captured, he will be taken to safe house in Huyton for political re-education, fed Scouse Pies at every meal and made to watch loop footage of Tommy Smith's Top 100 tackles.
Then he will be re-released back to the world :-)

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15 Jun 2018 10:38:24
agreed Salah, there was nothing wrong with Eds response.

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15 Jun 2018 11:06:11
Ed2 don't worry about the minor volume of posters that are negative. As a whole your input is valued.

I think a range of clothing with RTFP should be developed and sold on here lol.

Enjoy the day folks!

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15 Jun 2018 11:13:15
And Apple are on the hit list too - knocking the B off barm and auto correcting Shankly to shakily. i tell you, come the revolution.

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15 Jun 2018 12:27:32
I value the input highly and I wasn't trying to be negative. My point is, that despite there being people who don't read or search for things before asking, the clipped responses are not constructive. Ed002 has excellent input, knowledge and respectability, but being talked to like that is going to put people off in my opinion.

The original post did have a question that was relevant to Liverpool. The poster wouldn't have posted here if it didn't, so it was hardly embarrassing or rubbish.

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{Ed002's Note - The embarrassing rubbish was yours not his.}

15 Jun 2018 12:53:35
Thing is it’s like it’s entitlement. Just cause a question is asked here doesn’t mean it has to be answered or answer has be in depth or lengthy. I believe the EDs do this site for free or at least not a lot and have to deal with a sea of abusive morons. They still continue to help here with info.

I don’t always get the response I’d hope sometimes no response but it just doesn’t phase me. Just wish people, general no one in particular, stay polite and respectful.

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15 Jun 2018 12:57:11
Don't see the problem with the question tbh, not everyone can be glued to the page 24/ 7 or knows the workings, easy to miss a page.

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15 Jun 2018 18:06:28
The problem with the question is as follows. We are not interested in Guedes nor have we been at any point during this window. A simple search of the players name will show you that. The only player we are potentially interested in from PSG is Draxler, which has been covered numerous times. While I agree Guedes is a good player, you’re literally just picking a random player with no link to Liverpool. I also rate Verratti? Is that relevant to liverpool’s transfer window because PSG need to raise money? Absolutely not. Hence why Ed002 keeps suggesting that people ask about their random players on the European pages. Its unhelpful and frustrating.

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15 Jun 2018 17:05:58
I’ll be honest. I love it when Ed gives a withering reposte.

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15 Jun 2018 18:05:58
I’ll be honest. I love it when Ed gives a withering reposte.

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15 Jun 2018 08:58:55
Davey sulls. There is a purgatory, it's a season ticket to whichever club mourinho is managing.

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15 Jun 2018 13:25:09
Ugh. Hell please. Nothing is worth that. :)

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15 Jun 2018 08:55:51
Morning Eds. 1st time poster. Big fan of the site. You lads do a great job. I was wondering with griezman deciding to stay, do you think Barcelona will come in for Salah now?

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{Ed001's Note - no idea. Would be an odd choice to go for in place of Griezmann though.}

15 Jun 2018 09:52:01
Maybe Malcolm or Martins. Bet they’re looking at Salah more so now.

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15 jun 2018 12:28:45
salah for golden boot!
just saying :)

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15 Jun 2018 08:22:14
Eid Mubarak for those who celebrate.
May this special day bring peace, happiness and prosperity to everyone.

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15 Jun 2018 09:14:34
Thanks buddy. Make sure you score a first half hat trick today and get some rest in the second half.

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15 Jun 2018 08:17:13
So we will be the first team to play Spurs at their new stadium. If we can win one game next season 7-0 I hope it is that one 😂 crucify them and ruin their party. I want to see Kane crying and Pochettino sacked!

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15 Jun 2018 08:50:19
The new ground looks good, though I did like the quirks of WHL.
The Shelf and the view (! ) from behind the Police Box in the away end.
For a similar experience, put the match on the telly in your living room, go out and leave the door half open and then sit at the top of the stairs on the landing.
Then charge yourself £30 and, bingo, you have a restricted view seat at Spurs away, LMAO.

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15 Jun 2018 09:10:42
MK’s got the Friday Fever 😂.

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15 Jun 2018 09:14:16
How deliciously dark mk. I approve.

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15 Jun 2018 09:29:32
Bit harsh MK but funny most of my mates are spurs fans and other than beating Manchester United the spurs games are a must win they are so dillusional sometimes it beggars belief
Up the pool.

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15 Jun 2018 09:48:00
Redan, that is the same as the Spurs fans I know. They all bang on about being the biggest club in London and how they won in Europe before anyone else! Gets tedious doesn't it!

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15 Jun 2018 11:09:18
MK - please don't wish for 7-0 to us as that will mean Kane will claim all 7 and be streets ahead of Salah too early in the season.

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