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19 Aug 2018 09:07:52
Hi Ed 01. Just watching a few games this morning. What is your view on the difference between Vardy sending off and the high tackle of Pickford on Ings which never even got a free kick. The comentaters said it was Vardys follow through that got him sent off but Pickford was okay? Both took the ball. Different for goalkeepers.

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{Ed001's Note - for some reason keepers get protection. No idea why but raising their foot is not given as a foul against a keeper, as it is seen as them 'protecting themselves' even though it is against the laws of the game. Refs do not apply the laws in the same way to keepers.}

19 Aug 2018 09:34:54
Thanks Ed. I can see protection in some areas with high knee but charging out of the area with foot up is different. Strange!

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19 Aug 2018 10:14:06
Good point. Always been a bug bare of mine when i was playing. You would routinely see fouls given for slight pushes going for aerial balls. Then a cross would come in and the gk would completely wipe out his own player, and opposition player before even getting to the ball! Both of whom were between ball and gk, yet no foul and big well done to the gk!

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19 Aug 2018 12:20:47
Do you think a lot of that is down ro petr cech, because even the chelsea players reaction yesterday when 2 fulham players were perfectly right to go for a loose ball but if a keeper jumps in head (not literally) first on a loose who is in the wrong?

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19 Aug 2018 13:13:12
Re the Vardy tackle, it was Mike Dean officiating which really doesn't need any further explanation.

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19 Aug 2018 13:31:12
I’m more worried about Craig pawson, 2 debatable red cards in 2 games and he couldn’t even be consistent in a 20 minute period after only giving arter a yellow for a shocking kick that wasn’t even close to being a challenge for the ball.

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Premier League Previews 19 August 2018

19 Aug 2018 08:36:55
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Previews 19 August 2018

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19 Aug 2018 08:54:58
Thank you very much Reid.

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19 Aug 2018 09:24:01
Good Reid!

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19 Aug 2018 12:37:50
Good mate, yes.
But next time, can you make the diagram seem as if the gull is crapping on the devil or swooping down to peck him or something please?
Otherwise, carry on 🤣.

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19 Aug 2018 15:54:39
Haha Juicer I have no input in the image! But glad you guys like the previews :)

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Review Of The Day 19th August 2018

19 Aug 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th August 2018

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19 Aug 2018 07:43:24
Thanks as always Ed. Would we be correct in saying there are a lot of, oh what's the word. errr. that's it: Knobs, in football these days. Self obsessed knobs!

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{Ed001's Note - defo mate, they are becoming more numerous all the time.}

19 Aug 2018 07:53:19
Is there a more despicable pair of clubs than Real Madrid and Barcelona?

Ed001,

Is the La Liga proposal to have games in the US backed by a number of clubs in particular?

Thank you.

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{Ed001's Note - the La Liga proposal is backed by Stephen Ross (I think that's his name) the guy who owns Miami Dolphins. He wants to do the same with Premier League and Serie A as well.}

19 Aug 2018 08:51:04
Thanks ed, always appreciate these even if it’s just every so often that I say thanks. Hope the Milan guy is ok, it’s surprising that these guys can get so far before things are picked up but (although he may not think so) it’s a good job it has been now, it’s an area I work in actually so it could be one of a few things but I would sincerely wish him all the best. The Wolfsburg player, what a great attitude and a refreshing view of ones self, I’m not that good but I will make the very best of what I have type of attitude. If only a few others who are blessed with huge talent would stop and have a reflection on that! Any chance of his dream move coming true one day?
Cheers again, have a good one to you all out there in rumourville.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate. You are right about both Strinic and Weghorst. No way of knowing if it will come true or not, we have shown no interest so far but a good season in the Bundesliga and who knows?}

19 Aug 2018 08:52:20
Ah bloody hell Mbappe, don't go sucking up to that little turd! superstar my arse!

Cheers Ed, hope you have a great day mate.

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{Ed001's Note - if you don't suck up to him, you don't get a game mate.}

19 Aug 2018 08:53:00
I'm getting increasingly annoyed by the La Liga.

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19 Aug 2018 09:22:20
Why does neynar have so much power, just for money/ marketing reasons?

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{Ed001's Note - that and he is such a whiner that people feel they have to pander to him to get the most out of him.}

19 Aug 2018 09:53:53
As sad as it sounds Ed you aren't wrong mate it really winds me up how much power he has, it's ridiculous. It infuriates me how he thinks he's gods gift, the true legends like Ronaldo, Ronaldinho etc must be looking at him and laughing their heads off, he's talented sure but nothing on their level or even close imo, yet he thinks he's gods gift. Shame on him, I hope Mbappe scores more than him this season.

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19 Aug 2018 10:55:38
Re Lfc hooeful's post. I had heart surgery aged 14 mate for a condition they didn't pick up until I was 12. Had it been picked up when I was an infant they could have done keyhole surgery but ended up having to do proper open heart surgery. So I guess it happens (although over 30 seems a bit extreme) .

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19 Aug 2018 11:46:23
Great review Ed01, Neymar could learn a lot from Weghorst, if he had the same attitude as this lad he would be a vastly improved player, instead of thinking he is already a superstar.
I just do not understand how managers and team mates tolerate him, how is he allowed to constantly get away with it. Whenever I watch him he never ever looks like a superstar player to me. I can think of so many players who offer more to a team than him. He is not even in the top 10 players in the world nevermind top 3.

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{Ed001's Note - agreed mate. If he learnt to play for the team he would be an incredible player. However he ends up being as much of a hindrance as he is a help.}

19 Aug 2018 11:57:53
Coarctation rednick?

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19 Aug 2018 12:26:29
No, it was a hole in the heart so nothing major (as heart conditions go) . I have another condition called svt which led them to find it.

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19 Aug 2018 12:31:51
Added time multi-ball!

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19 Aug 2018 13:55:35
Loved the comments about Neymar Ed. Someone needs to stand up to him. I have no idea why people are so afraid to piss him off.

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19 Aug 2018 14:14:34
I hope the svt doesn’t give u too much bother mate, stay well 👍.

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19 Aug 2018 06:41:21
Morning eds

What do you know about our new young signing ki-jana hoever?

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{Ed001's Note - not a lot he is just a kid.}

19 Aug 2018 08:11:11
Highly rated and formerly one of the best prospects at Ajax's academy, I read, they are supposed to very disappointed to have lost him. We're said to have beat a host of top European clubs to his signature.

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19 Aug 2018 08:38:51
Will he ever play a first team game for us?

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19 Aug 2018 08:53:57
Very true Ron mate.

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19 Aug 2018 08:52:16
I wouldn’t get too over excited at this juncture, Everton signed Ajax’s captain last season and look how that went 🙈.

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20 Aug 2018 07:20:53
Frode Kippe, Djimi Traore (the new Desailly), Le Tallec, Sinama-Pongolle, Pacheco, Suso there will be dozens more. We’ve a history of signing the next big thing and they end up leaving having played less than 20 games for us and never fulfilling their potential.

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19 Aug 2018 06:38:33
All i got from watching the London Derby is that we're going to have both those teams on toast.

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19 Aug 2018 08:33:49
Agreed, can’t wait.

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19 Aug 2018 08:54:45
I just wish we were playing those teams soon. ’They’ll improve as they get used to their new styles and they have excellent managers but right now (particularly Arsenal) they’d play right into our hands and our front 3 would have a field day that way they’re trying to play out from the back.

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19 Aug 2018 12:49:10
Why is Sarri playing Kante on the right side of midfield though?
The best DM on the planet and he’s played out of position. Mad.

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18 Aug 2018 21:56:03
2018 summer transfer window is historic. It's the year Liverpool stopped buying Southampton players and Southampton started buying Liverpool players.

What a time to be alive 😮.

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18 Aug 2018 22:13:51
Brilliant.

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18 Aug 2018 23:13:24
Saints have NO more good players for us to sign anymore, really. We have now switched to signing players from Roma and with the quality we have gotten from them right now (Salah and Allison), that is a HUGE upgrade in terms of feeder clubs even tho, we are getting fleeced in the process.

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18 Aug 2018 23:34:55
I’d take Ings as back up.

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19 Aug 2018 06:40:46
Tbh, Southampton do not have any players that we would want anymore, and Klopp has raised the quality of players we buy which is beyond what Southampton have or had.
I wouldn't mind selling more of our fringe players to them though, for inflated prices however. They took us for a ride with Lallana, Lambert, lovren, Clyne etc. Time to return the favour.

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19 Aug 2018 13:21:39
Didt ings end up on loan. maybe it's klopp grand plan to make him a 70 million pound striker lol.

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19 Aug 2018 14:04:30
If we still had Rodgers, Redmond would have been unveiled as well as fabianski.

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18 Aug 2018 17:57:10
Just read Vardy has scored 7 or 8 (can’t remember which one) goals against us in our last 8 meetings. After getting sent off today with a straight red Vardy will now be suspended for our game.

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18 Aug 2018 18:32:59
Has to be our year.

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18 Aug 2018 19:06:31
Disagree. Would have preferred to see him test Gomez/ Lovren and VVD. Him breaking that scoring streak would do more for us than him not being there.

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18 Aug 2018 19:29:55
There’s about 20% of me that agrees with you, Ra.

The other 80% just wants to win the damn thing this year, even if it’s by a goal that comes off of VVDs plums!

We can do it with style and elegance next time, right now I just want us to end 29 years of hurt! 😂.

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18 Aug 2018 20:05:12
So many things going our way this season. Keita being boss, De Bruyne out for 3 months (hope he recovers soon regardless) and now Vardy being suspended against us.

What's next, Mourinho choosing not to park the bus and attempting to go toe-to-toe against us?

This is our year lol 😂😂


YNWA.

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18 Aug 2018 20:43:44
We've played one game so far this season - how about taking it a game at a time and chilling out a little?

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18 Aug 2018 20:44:02
You know what would hurt. Finishing second to utd. Won't happen though. This is ours I think. Isn't it weird how city, with all their money and huge squad suddenly look so much weaker with no kdb? And also, the signing of mahrez, could really sow some discourse among their forward players. Not enough room for sterling mahrez and sane. It's nothing major and should make a team stronger but sometimes these things can have an adverse effect.

You know what, I don't really care about the other teams. As long as we win EVERY game, the title is ours. I think we have a good chance of doing just that.

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18 Aug 2018 21:00:24
Wow we’ve played one game people. City missing KDB will not be a massive issue. Yes he’s quality but he will simply be replaced by another quality player in Mahrez. He may not be as good but such is the quality in that city side with Sane Silva Agustin and even Sterling who seems to find the target without the 3 lions on his chest I can see the impact only being minimal. I think that’s where city still beat us is strength in depth. Hopefully Shaqiri and ( a fit ) Sturridge can be the difference for us and bring us the holy grail. YNWA.

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18 Aug 2018 21:05:13
All you guys want everything the easy way 😝.

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18 Aug 2018 22:41:59
Seano if I could give more than one thumbs up I would. I believe but then again I believe every year!

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18 Aug 2018 22:55:34
City are still the favorites. Just keep up the momentum. This is a quality time, I'm grateful for that even if the trophies elude us. Crystal Palace is a very good test for us, more so than a limp West Ham.

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18 Aug 2018 23:14:47
Whatever happened to taking a season one game at a time?

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19 Aug 2018 14:07:56
Lads bernardo silva is going to be as good as kdb was last year so don't hold your breath.

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18 Aug 2018 17:00:09
Quick question to both of the Ed’s. I understand we as a club have not always been perfect and Ony the last few seasons we seem to be turning a corner both on and off the pitch.

What I am surprised at though (despite all the negative press) is by mike Ashley at Newcastle. It seems he has run a competition to make a fans dream come true and today the winner was a youngster by the name of Richarlison. What a great gesture. At one point I thought it may cost Newcastle but not only did they manage to get a point after a sending off but they also made this kids dream come true and have a run out.

Do you think this will catch on?

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{Ed001's Note - what on earth are you on about? Richarlison plays for Everton mate.}

18 Aug 2018 17:16:06
Bizarre!

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18 Aug 2018 17:31:24
That was my son. seen this on Facebook and it was Kennedy. I asked him to send in as thought it was funny. He meant and the post was Kennedy.

Ony just seen the response. Sorry Reds 😂😂😂

Will check what’s out on myself going forward. Currently on holiday so more interested in bevvies than what my 11 year old put. I’m off to cover myself in the whole I’ve dug

😩😩😩.

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18 Aug 2018 17:32:41
Was funny when it was shown to us in the bar. Norm site whether it was me half cut, the fact it was lost in translation or both. Apologies.

Happy holidays and Saturday folks z.

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18 Aug 2018 17:40:26
Taffy you give us Welsh a bad name lol.

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18 Aug 2018 19:49:50
Bladdered.

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19 Aug 2018 09:42:50
Steamin'. Not so bizarre anymore! :) enjoy your hols dude!

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18 Aug 2018 15:08:03
Good luck to Danny ings today on his full debut.

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18 Aug 2018 16:14:25
Debut Goal. Really happy for him :)

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18 Aug 2018 20:47:27
The guy is way better than I ever thought he was. What a player, I'm gutted we have sold him. I'm pleased for him though and respect to Klopp for being honest with him.

Ings or Origi. Don't make me laugh, Ings all day.

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18 Aug 2018 23:18:16
Ings was very unlucky with his time with us. Before his injury, he was the real deal esp. after scoring vs Everton. Once he got injured in Klopp's first training session, it was over for him. He then gets injured again (his THIRD serious knee injury in 5 years) and for me, it was lights out. Had he not been injured, he would still be here. Ings is the one I regret the most cos he never really got a real crack at working with Klopp cos to me, he was a true Klopp player.

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18 Aug 2018 11:34:01
Couple of points about potential outgoing players. I’ve seen grujic mentioned for Leeds, I would love the move for the lad as a year at Leeds with Bielsa could do wonders for him and his development. But I’ve read he has already turned down two options for loans in the championship.

Mignolet and Karius’ options are twindling but i’m Guessing one will end up in Turkey. Think both deserve a new chance somewhere else especially Karius who has taken an underserved amount of grief but I personally think it’ll be migs that leaves with karius stayng as number two until January.

Then there is Markovic who I also think will end up turkey, another one we have massively let down.

Solanke needs a loan as he is massively down the pecking order especially if studge stays fit.

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18 Aug 2018 11:55:29
I really don't understand why Grujic is turning down loan options when he's going to be just collecting dust at Liverpool. I'd also like to see him at Leeds, Bielsa would get the best out of him imo so it'd be interesting to see how he'd get on.

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18 Aug 2018 12:11:18
I think it’s because he sees himself as a higher level, but go out there and prove it. Unfortunately if he stays he may get a couple of league cup games at best, in order to develop you need to be getting regular minutes.

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18 Aug 2018 12:35:47
Not really sure how we are letting these players down. They are on obscene wages and it’s the nature of the beast at every club, you only play if you are good enough and producing the goods.

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18 Aug 2018 13:15:30
We have let down players for various reasons, Markovic before his move was one for the future, Ed002 eluded on many occasions we brought him too soon and we have messed around his development. And Karius is a Liverpool player who made mistakes but he didn’t deserve being dragged through the mud as he was, even if he is on huge wages compared to the rest of us. Hopefully he gets the chance to rebuild his career elsewhere as I think the ship has sailed at Liverpool for him.
We as a club have a responsibility to develop the players we purchase, some of it is also down to the player, but in the past our loan structure has been poor for the younger players, so I do think we have let players down previously.

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18 Aug 2018 13:18:00
You're right JK23, but i think things have to also be seen in terms of commitments and/ or promises that the club has made, to the player. We have no idea what exact written or verbal promises are made or have been made to all these players. Otherwise, every single football player (since the day he first stepped onto a footballl field at whatever age) knows really well that he will play only if he is the best available on that particular day. So for him to expect things to change at the professional level is actually quite foolish. I think most of us will agree that as a player's career progresses, things actually become more competitive and more difficult, very rarely less.

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18 Aug 2018 15:26:18
Not every player plays at every club and not every player works out. These players are doing a job they love and are getting rewarded financially well. They’re not being held hostage and their development is down to themselves just as much as it is the club. Markovic hasn’t set any clubs alight in any of his loan moves but that is probably LFC’s fault as well for buying him too soon.

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18 Aug 2018 16:04:47
Sorry but this really gets my goat when it kept being said the club let these players down.

They have been give the honour of playing for one of the biggest clubs in the world and paid more money than most of us will see in a lifetime.

Things don't always work out that's life.

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18 Aug 2018 16:32:25
The club has, yes the player has a responsibility to prove there good enough and yes not every transfer will work out. But the club has a responsibility to the players to try and do what’s best by them, exactly the same as any employer. Markovic barely got a chance and then shifted around on loan from club to club, if he wasn’t in the clubs plans we should of found a permanent deal for the lad.

I am not saying for a second that it’s all down to the club but they need to take some responsibility for players careers whilst they are employed by the club.

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18 Aug 2018 16:59:22
Markovic is a poor example mate, yes he's had few chances but he's clearly not good enough to play at this level loan after loan has proved that if he was good enough why are clubs not lining up to buy him? .

Your right the club should do everything to help him move on, I personally think all clubs should be forced to release players when they are maybe into there 3/ 4th year and not playing regularly? .

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18 Aug 2018 17:05:02
Couldn’t disagree more with WYred.

Hopefully Ed002 come along and likes you post or gives you the reply you crave. Mistakes are made but a 2 way street.

If your life was unbearable in your current job but you were offered a chance to go to another job would you turn it down? And at this point money is not an option as they are not on the bread line like the every day man.

Same goes for Migs and Karius and whoever else. If they want to stay at clubs chasing the coin instead of being happy that’s their fault. They need to weigh up their options as before you know it your career has gone.

Life is what you make of it.

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18 Aug 2018 17:09:08
At what point do we put any responsibility on these young players and there advisors.

At what point do agents get held responsible for advising money moves instead of progress moves.

Look at players like pulisic, choosing to wait, choosing to stay at a place where he can play instead of not getting a chance at a bigger club and having the right people around him.

We have players now who are moving and making sensible moves, there's not many but they are choosing places to play rather than just money.

Markovic, grujic, origi, can, Moreno, karius all decided to move to a juggernaut like l8verpiol and all got heavily paid. Did they think they would just walk in the team. You should only ever make a big move like that when you are at the top of your game.

You know what the pressure is like and how rich these clubs are, being able to go out and buy anyone they want, challenging for trophies, no mistake places.

Same as academy kids. Any parent should be choosing league 1 and 2 club's. Never send them to the top unless there is a guarantee of at least a clear path with academy players in the first 5eam.

Put them in Tranmere, if there good enough like players like Ali or vardy there going to get up there eventually.

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18 Aug 2018 17:35:11
That my point 911, every effort should of been made to help him start a new chapter instead he’s just moved from loan to loan with very little plan.

I get people say they earn hundred of thousands of pounds so it’s down to them, but the average joe can move a lot more freely than a footballer.

Taffy I post my opinion because it’s a forum If I wanted a reply from Ed002 I’d ask a direct question to him/ her/ part time rodeo clown.

KLoppsboss I’ve said above that the club and the player have a responsibility, at the end of the day the club is an employer who should do what’s best by their employees.

If you are a 20 year old promised thousands a week it’d be hard to reject but the club then needs to help their development as money isn’t everything. as well as the youngster proving their worth, see my above point about grujic.

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18 Aug 2018 20:50:10
I don't think we have let karius down. I think we are protecting him. After the year he had last season he needs some time out of the limelight as a no2.

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18 Aug 2018 21:11:57
Think part of the problem is changing manager every few years. Markovic was a Brendon buy and we all know Rogers bought for the sake of it with no clear plan. Unfortunately for him Klopp doesn’t rate him so he’s now stuck between a rock and a hard place. The club want a similar fee as we paid and the lad wants similar wages to what he’s getting now. Someone’s got to lower there expectations and for me it should be the club. We bought him for a project that didn’t work we should cut our loses.

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19 Aug 2018 04:35:49
They are being messed around if the club prices them out of a move ( which ed2 has said in a few occasions is the case) and aren't in the clubs plans moving forward. cut your losses and move them on for the sake of the player ( at a reasonable cost) and for the sake of the club. whatever player like markovic is worth now it will halve again in January.

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19 Aug 2018 08:48:12
My individual take is that for any 1 to be successful at any thing they do consistency is needed, try finding a new job that pays you mega bucks but has dodgy process in place. What are the odds of you actually being successful? We can't blame someone who was made false promises to as way to convince them to join only to find they just that false promises. Marko ain't the only 1,Tiago the messiah, gosh the list is actually a bit lengthy. Not saying players are immune to blame but the fact that this happeneds regularly hints a problem. If we pride ourselves on keeping the pride that's linked with our badge then that alone should be the reason to bigger man and take responsibility.

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