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29 Oct 2019 21:14:42
Ed do we have Any interest in Denis Zakaria's?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed025's Note - not that i know of mate..


 

 

08 Oct 2019 17:29:14
Now then Ed001

Not been in here much mate, had a good read through it's good to see positivity is flowing through most posters to the site, apart from the odd or whining we are not winning every game 5zip!

Do you see us doing much in January window mate, also do you think we need to strengthen any areas in Jan? Anyone new you are aware of we are showing interest in please?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - clubs try and avoid doing business in January, we are not looking to do any, unless anyone leaves unexpectedly.}


1.) 08 Oct 2019 17:53:35
Fair enough mate thank you.

How do you think we are shaping up this season mate, obviously we are top but I mean I’m performance and tactics. We seem to be playing a little higher up the field, also we seem to be more hungry in turning draws into wins?

Long may it continue mate, a long long way to go though so my feet firmly grounded.

{Ed001's Note - we look a much better side this season than last season. Not as open, attractive and exciting, but better and more likely to get a win now.}


2.) 08 Oct 2019 20:02:57
Agree mate mostly although we have looked quite open to me at times, especially when Trent and Robbo are in the opposing half leaving a breakaway against our 2 centre halves. I get what your saying though and we are still scoring plenty of goals.


3.) 08 Oct 2019 22:45:48
Anyone care to guess how many times virgil will ask about january transfers in the next 3 months?


4.) 08 Oct 2019 23:36:35
Double figures.
Easily.


5.) 09 Oct 2019 09:07:22
He is a good lad. I bet I post more negative comments than he asks about transfers.


6.) 09 Oct 2019 13:08:00
What about now Ed001 any update? Joke😂.


7.) 09 Oct 2019 13:53:04
We are far more open than last season imo. Our full backs seem to be leaving us more exposed.


8.) 09 Oct 2019 14:10:49
Ryan Fraser is in the last year of his contract. I'd take him on the cheap in January as a backup wide-forward option. Would you agree fellow Reds?


9.) 09 Oct 2019 15:00:19
We are more open Cobra, full backs pushed on and our centre halves seem to have pushed up on the half way line when we are in possession. It’s working so far, although we have pushed our luck and conceded quite a few chances. So I guess question has to be asked if it is working? Results would say yes.


10.) 09 Oct 2019 18:01:42
Jurgen Meister. He'd possibly be available pretty cheap due to his contract situation and also the fact that he's not been in the best of form this season.

Nevertheless, he's still a player I'd like at Liverpool. I think Klopp would be able to make a really good player out of him.


11.) 10 Oct 2019 09:35:09
Whatever the number is it will be matched by the disclaimer "havent been here for a while. "


12.) 27 Oct 2019 14:16:01
If we were to sell shaqiri I wouldn't mind fraser.


 

 

24 Sep 2019 11:28:33
Morning Ed's

Been reading just now that New Balance are trying to remain as our sponsor and compete with Nikes offer and are considering taking it to court.

How do you see this panning out?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - without seeing the contract we had with New Balance I can only speculate. It seems there must be a clause in the original deal giving them first option or the option of matching any new offer. Otherwise what would they have to go to court over? Personally I do not understand why we seem to do this with every single deal we make. Why can't we come to amicable arrangements? There is something seriously wrong with the way we do business.}


1.) 24 Sep 2019 13:34:46
Possibly just a case of getting more money from Nike. It sounds like the owners hoping Nike offer more than New Balance are willing to pay and the club get a much better deal from their point of view.
The owners are doing better as of late but too many silly things spoil the hard work. Edd 2 once said about some of our sponsors were not the right type of companys to do business with.

{Ed001's Note - and how many of the right type of companies exist? People hold up Apple as some shining beacon and went on about Steve Jobs being the great idealist to follow but forget his billions were 'earned' on the back of child slave labour. Companies are rich because they are lacking in morals and will make money any way they can. There are very few that do the right thing.}


2.) 24 Sep 2019 13:13:23
the new balance brand isn't as strong or notable as nike, but new balance items are a much superior quality to anything nike makes. i'm in the minority, but i'd hate to see us switch. we're so concerned about being viewed as a BIG CLUB though, that it seems like we've already made up our mind about going with nike. new balance linked up with us during bad times, so it would be nice to see us continue to partner together during these much better times. if new balance doesn't want to match the offer that's one thing, but if we're not honoring the essence of the agreement, then that would be really disappointing.


3.) 24 Sep 2019 13:43:09
I would happily keep New Balance as a sponsor if money was matched. Their kits seem much better than the Nike ones.


4.) 24 Sep 2019 13:54:44
i just read james pearce's article about this. the dispute is over the definition of "matching" an offer. the cash shouldn't be an issue, as new balance can probably find investors to match the fee. the issue is over the distribution networks. nike being more established worldwide, and is able to give LFC access to markets around the world that new balance cannot. how much is that worth and is it something that the contract says should be considered when giving new balance the right to match? that's likely why it's heading to court, to get clarity on that.


5.) 24 Sep 2019 14:25:57
Mftonjes is correct, from a business stand point, Nike is a much better company to make the deal with. They can distribute across the globe and real authentic Liverpool shirts will be available world wide and not sell out as fast as they do with NB. For some people abroad is near on impossible to get a shirt shipped or bought because they’re sold out. In terms of design, I’d have NB and certainly Adidas over them, in fact Adidas would be as good for business and a much better design than Nike could offer but they don’t seem to be involved. I’m not sure we’ve ever had a kit deal with Nike so here goes nothing, I just hope they keep the tone of blood red we’ve got going on in recent seasons as it’s so much nicer than the plain red we had a few seasons ago.


6.) 24 Sep 2019 14:29:38
Fair enough Ed, sounds a bit of a mess again mate. Who do you see us finishing up with mate?

{Ed001's Note - sadly seems we just want to dump NB to jump ship to Nike. Nothing against Nike but their kits are crap. The only good kits they have produced were the PSG ones they did with their Jordan brand. Now if they are going to go down that route and we have Jordan branded kits then I am happy, because they will be bespoke. Otherwise we will just be another Nike generic kit.}


7.) 24 Sep 2019 14:44:46
Ages ago when this came up my view was that it'd be good to stick with Nb, who came in board when we were avg and have steadily increased each renewal. I like their kits, if they can match the money then I'm ok with them. Not sure about the whole global reach thing, but that feels a bit like we're squabbling of pennies somehow. Anyways, hope we keep good relationships whatever we do.


8.) 24 Sep 2019 16:28:03
I think I am right in saying we extended Standard Charted 2 years ago for £20m less than the going rate. Not sure who made that decision, maybe that terrible decision is now having a knock on effect.


9.) 24 Sep 2019 17:12:23
Not that I particularly like Nike kits but I live in Canada and New Balance Canada is terrible. They have a very limited selection of Liverpool equipment and their selection for the other New Balance teams like Celtic and Porto is even worse.


10.) 24 Sep 2019 18:08:39
The other thing i wonder about is where will we sit in terms of Nike’s priorities, second to Barcelona I would say, and they’ve got lots of other football clubs. I presume new balance focus most of their football activities on us?


11.) 24 Sep 2019 18:39:18
I will also like to add it would be good if we did stick with New Balance in this period of success, not many of the bigger brands were ready to do business with us when we we not having the success we are currently having.


12.) 24 Sep 2019 19:13:23
the new balance brand isn't as strong or notable as nike, but new balance items are a much superior quality to anything nike makes. i'm in the minority, but i'd hate to see us switch. we're so concerned about being viewed as a BIG CLUB though, that it seems like we've already made up our mind about going with nike. new balance linked up with us during bad times, so it would be nice to see us continue to partner together during these much better times. if new balance doesn't want to match the offer that's one thing, but if we're not honoring the essence of the agreement, then that would be really disappointing.


13.) 24 Sep 2019 19:24:40
A very good mate of mine was recruited to Nike last month. He is a marketing guru and Liverpool fanatic. He is / was to be a senior guy on a new account for them, however announcements are being delayed. It seems due process has not been followed and it is a bit messy. But hay, this is the first time I have had a legit source to discuss anything with on this site 😉.


14.) 24 Sep 2019 21:12:14
I live in Canada too and buy a shirt through the club shop every year and they post it out to me. That way the club gets the money, and not some random shop. Support your club!

{Ed002's Note - That income for the shop is reasonably small, but the club do get more money than popping in to your local sports shop - where they get near none.}


15.) 24 Sep 2019 23:37:48
While I've no problem with NB kits, I like them more than Nike kits, what's the point when you can't buy them? 2 seasons in a row the home Jersey sold out. Think it was over a month feb/ march gone by til we restocked. And this season already the black goal keepers Jersey is not available. Its atrocious and they obviously can't handle the demand,


16.) 24 Sep 2019 23:38:39
Omg well said about Apple I've been saying this for years and no one I socialise with either cares or refuse to believe it.
I am sure it was edd 33 that told me about this several years ago.


17.) 25 Sep 2019 15:24:00
The new Nike arsenal kit is the nicest kit the league has seen in decades.


18.) 25 Sep 2019 17:39:42
The new Arsenal kit is made by adidas 🤦🏼‍♂️.


19.) 25 Sep 2019 23:18:47
This is what I love about football. The "tribalism" it creates. Here we are arguing over our "colors" despite (perhaps) being oceans apart. Really cool.


20.) 27 Sep 2019 15:36:28
Yeah I've been 90% happy with the NB designs since they came in. I'd rather stay with them than switch to Nike and their boring kits.


 

 

23 Aug 2019 09:09:16
Ed001 do we have any idea on the length of injury to AB as of yet? Club been very quite with it, is it because they don't actually no how long it will take? Lopped said a few weeks and it's just about been that, I'm guessing it's worse than first thought?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - this is tedious. They have not been quiet and it has been fully explained, by the club in their normal business and by me. There is absolutely no suggestion it is worse than thought, you are just making that up. It has always been said he will be out until after the international break. Why keep asking?}


1.) 23 Aug 2019 09:46:32
Fair enough Ed, tbh I’ve been on Hols for 2 weeks and not been on here much or read any updates on him.


2.) 23 Aug 2019 14:49:18
there's an american doctor with a great explanation of the ins and outs of what they're dealing with re alisson's injury. search for it on youtube. it's interesting and well done.

a very quick summary. it's likely a partial tear of the calf muscle, and the timetable for a return after getting injured this way is dependent on the body of the injured person. since alisson hasn't ever tore a muscle before in his professional career, they're not going to know for sure how long it will take until he's healed.

the average athlete seems to need around 6 weeks to heal with this type of injury, but could be quicker or could take a little longer, depending on how alisson's body heals.


3.) 23 Aug 2019 19:57:21
I rekon he will be back around mid-Jan.


4.) 23 Aug 2019 20:29:17
Thank you mftonjes I appreciate that in depth reply mate, I’ve not seen that write up on it but thank you for sharing it with me 👍.


5.) 26 Aug 2019 00:12:54
You're welcome. It's all speculation of course, but the doctor goes to great lengths to explain himself and provides a lot of evidence.


 

 

16 Aug 2019 13:16:05
People saying about Adrian now our injured? Bloody hell we've certainly been in the wrong end of injuries already in the early stages of the season. Allison Keita and now Adrian.

Ed001 do you no the seriousness of Adrian's injury please? Is he definitely out or a doubt. We're down to the bare bones of a 36yo 3rd choice or a young lad in Keleher?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea I am out and on my phone, I am not in touch with anything sorry.}


1.) 16 Aug 2019 13:36:12
Kloppo said he needs to be assessed in the morning, it was swollen yesterday and has improved. But it won't be definite till tomorrow.


2.) 16 Aug 2019 13:57:53
Some fan ran onto the pitch with the celebrations and collided with him he’s a swollen ankle 🤦🏻‍♂️.


3.) 16 Aug 2019 16:39:50
Idiots who think it's OK to pitch invade need to get a grip. Not just because of this incident but because of the security issue, as well as it making our fans and by association our club look bad. Klopp apparently said that fans also invaded the pitch at the Norwich game and the City game. It needs knocking on the head, and I don't see why life bans aren't dished out by the club for this sort of behaviour. Set a precedent and it'll stop soon enough.


4.) 16 Aug 2019 20:02:50
Seano, with the game being in Turkey there is the potential that it isn’t a regular visitor to Anfield.

Problem is there are plenty of idiots that want a minute of fame. loOk at the lass in the final, no intention to go to another game and got publicity by being all over the news. Tv cameras are starting to get the right idea and as soon as someone is seen pan to someone else.

If they stop being seen, it’ll be eradicated as it negates the point in doing it.


5.) 16 Aug 2019 23:10:46
If that was a tackle during the match we'd be calling it a potentially career ending tackle lol crazy man.

Also when someone is out I get excited for whoever is next coming in!


6.) 17 Aug 2019 04:11:07
Maybe WYRed but what about the Norwich game and City game one of our fans invaded the pitch then? This is clearly not an isolated incident and is something the club should clamp down on - tired of idiots ruining it for other and now, in this case, potentially ruining it for an actual player.


7.) 17 Aug 2019 09:15:09
Adrian will be fit for today don’t worry.


8.) 17 Aug 2019 19:42:26
Not the point 1jj, fans acting like arses should be punished by the club as a deterrent for other arses. It's sad that they need to do that but it seems it's the only thing within their mandate to do.


 

 

 

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31 Oct 2019 10:49:35
Ed001

Wondered if you could please give your thoughts on the fixture pile up we now have on our hands. December is looking impossible now with the Club World Cup, Carabou and league games. What should we or do you think the club will priorities? We obviously can't go strong in the Carabou if we want to win the CWC?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - it is a real mess, but until the fixtures are set, there is no way of deciding how to approach each game. The Club World Cup is something the club do not even want to take part in, so that has to be bottom of the list. It should be used as a chance for the players to get some winter sun and r&r.}


1.) 31 Oct 2019 11:15:24
So you think we will more than likely send a very week squad out to the CWC in December mate?

{Ed001's Note - no, I think we will take pretty much everyone out there as the Aspire facilities are possibly the best in the world medically. I just expect the team to be heavily rotated.}


2.) 31 Oct 2019 12:12:38
ed001 I think it will be a great experience for the young players in the squad. And as the last 2 cup games have shown us ed the Ox is still nowhere near at full fitness even with 3 great strikes, Hoping he gets another 90 mins next week against Genk and after the next international break he gets more play time in the league and he plays over there for a full 90mins in one of the games, Then hopefully by January he might be nearly up to full steam. Then we might have him fully at it for the second half of the season. Because as the last 2 starts have shown us don't think he is ready for 90mins against the top side in the prem yet.

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed because he can make a huge difference in tight games.}


3.) 31 Oct 2019 13:04:07
{Ed001's Note - The Club World Cup is something the club do not even want to take part in, so that has to be bottom of the list
====================================

I don't know why you keep saying that, with the greatest respect I know for a fact that its not true, I know from someone who I have every reason to fully trust the information who told me when Klopp was asked about the CWC, the reply (please don't quote me as I don't remember the exact words) but something to the effect: "Its a world cup, champions of the world sounds nice, we want to go there and win, the only English club that won it is Manchester United and the fans would like us to do the same"
Now its no secret this morning the club will sacrifice the Carabao cup if need be (don't think will happen), I wold imagine the boys that did great yesterday will play the next round, probably replace Milner with another youngster. Klopp real anger is with the premier league congested fixtures in December and over the Chrismas period and no one can blame him.

{Ed001's Note - whatever you want to tell yourself. I am sure you know best, but you are wrong and with the greatest respect, your quote is bollox. A complete nothing quote - it is called being diplomatic. The club do not want to take part, in fact the English and Spanish clubs are in the midst of a fight with FIFA over the expansion and considering pulling out of any involvement in the new format.}


4.) 31 Oct 2019 13:07:18
he does ed001 he gives us something different in there as well and before his injury them 2 home games against City he destroyed them they could do deal with his pace through the middle of the park. But after the city game I think up till we play wolves and Leicester I think its only Everton in there that are really hard fixtures I know none are to be taken easy but there is a lot of minutes for Ox in them games to get his full sharpness back.


5.) 31 Oct 2019 13:18:48
Ed 001 couple of things please mate if you don't mind.
With this huge fixture pile up do you think it could force us into the transfer market in Jan even be it the loan market or do you believe we have enough in the squad. Not just to turn up but to compete (ie Villa will prob go full strength etc)?
Also any idea what the financial rewards are for the club world cup. I know you don't like talking money so not asking for a figure but do you believe that playing in it could give us a reward financially going forward or is it just a waste of time?

{Ed001's Note - I doubt our plans will be based on such a short term outlook, if they are, we are in real trouble as a club.

As for financial rewards, it is nothing compared to the Prem or Champions League and that is the issue.}


6.) 31 Oct 2019 13:54:29
Cheers Ed, might be a good thing then if the facilities are good, we could well win it then, although clearly not priority I have it higher than the Carabou don’t you?

{Ed001's Note - personally I just want to win everything. I am old school and go along with the Shankly mantra of the next game is the most important.}


7.) 31 Oct 2019 17:44:24
Ed01 reply restored some confidence, that we can go to these class facilities and hopefully play a lot of the younger players while the first team boys don't have to play so much we burn out.

I wasn't too bothered about the CC but since beating Arsenal, kinda want to do well now. They boys who played although had some poor defending really did well going forward.

I'm just hoping we can get through this period and do well and crack on to the second half of the league from a good position :)


8.) 31 Oct 2019 18:10:05
Man U did it a few years back, they went to the World club cup and mainly rested. They came back refreshed. We should be able to rotate so most players only play one game. I think/ hope it could work in our favour.

{Ed002's Note - Benefits are for the sponsors and others - not for Liverpool.}


9.) 31 Oct 2019 21:30:48
CWC could be good for the club in regards of expanding the fan base try think of the positives.


10.) 01 Nov 2019 02:38:15
Personally I am ok with Pep Linjders staying back and putting out our youth players against Villa while Klopp and the senior players are in Qatar. The Carabao cup game against Villa will be a real test of grit and quality for the youngsters and gives them an opportunity to stake a claim for a first team squad role in the future.


11.) 01 Nov 2019 12:45:36
Firstly, the fact the EFL Cup still has a two-legged semi-final is ridiculous. I do want to win the CWC but agree the lineup will probably be heavily rotated. Think we should be able to make 8 or 9 changes to the outfield 10 and still win it. Dunno if Matip will be back by then but Shaqiri will be and will need minutes, and some of the youngsters showed last night that they can handle big games.


 

 

22 Oct 2019 21:05:00
Ed001 I see TAA and Matip have not travelled to Genk mate. What would you expect Klopp to do tomorrow with this in mind? Bring in Lovren and Gomez seems to be the only option?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - it does seem to be down to those two and Milner to act as cover. With a few of the youngsters in and around the first team away for the U17 World Cup (Hoever for example) it is probably a good time to rest Trent to ensure he is fresh. So him being ill might actually turn out to be a good thing.}


1.) 23 Oct 2019 09:54:44
It's a must win game. I like hoever a lot. Looks real talented. But we need to win the games that the other teams will. Its massive. So has to be gomez and lovren.

Anyone ever feel that fab needs a rest? Along with van djike and robbo, he plays every game. We have players who can do a job there in hendo and gini.

{Ed001's Note - I think you need to reread what I said.}


2.) 23 Oct 2019 10:05:23
Hendo and Gini have played all the internationals, fabs has not.


3.) 23 Oct 2019 10:35:35
Good point Mark.

My post was not in reaction to your reply Ed01 mate. Reading it again I see that hoever is unavailable. Must be gomez down the right then. I imagine genk being pretty physical so probably a good game for gomez as rb. That leaves lovren to partner vvd.

I read that keita is set to start. So next to fab, would you expect it to be milner? The ox could do with a game.


4.) 23 Oct 2019 10:50:08
Milner will 100% start.


5.) 23 Oct 2019 12:37:12
Ed what are your thoughts on neco Williams, seems to of really stepped up this year offering a decent outlet at rb?

{Ed001's Note - I don't have time to keep up with the youth teams these days mate sorry.}


 

 

21 Oct 2019 17:17:06
Ed001 would you make any changes mate for Genk on Wednesday? For me we looked a bit short in midfield against Utd and Naby, Ox and Adds looked more of a threat when they carne on. I no it was against tired Utd legs but the way Naby carried the ball forward and linked the play from deep was something quite different to What Hendo and Gini offer. Would also be good to give them 2 a rest for Spurs imo.

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - I would change the midfield a bit. Milner deserves a start and I would give Naby a chance, in place of Gini and Hendo. If Salah is fit he would come back in for Origi, if not then I would give Origi another chance.}


1.) 21 Oct 2019 17:50:59
Would you happen to know how salah is getting on with he’s fitness eds.

{Ed025's Note - he is expected to be fit for wednesday longthing..


2.) 21 Oct 2019 18:20:10
Don't mind those changes, Ed01 were they to happen. As for the whole VAR situation of last night, I propose that people watch Klopp's comments about how VAR is used in England and how it penalizes all teams involved. Worth the watch.


3.) 21 Oct 2019 18:27:52
ed1, do you think that Henderson should make way for a couple of games?

I like him, he has a bit of everything in his game but its been a while since he really made a difference.

Just a dip in form? Or something more lasting?

{Ed001's Note - he probably just needs a break. The team has not been playing well and he has been working his backside off trying to get things going. I am not sure he is physically capable of playing twice a week every week in the role he performs.}


4.) 21 Oct 2019 18:52:12
Cheers ed.


5.) 21 Oct 2019 19:34:55
At the back end of last season Hendo was flying and what a difference he made in the CL. His best run came after he had been rested for a few games. We have been saying for 2 years Hendo can't play at his best twice a week. It really does bring in to question Klopp's team selection v Man U. Then to play him wide right - what was that about?

My worry is Keita (I think it will be OX) and Milner come in for the CL and then for the more important match he will revert back to Gini and Hendo. This thread could equally be about Gini.


6.) 21 Oct 2019 20:04:30
Let’s not forget he’s also been away on International duty so I think he needs a rest.


7.) 21 Oct 2019 20:46:58
Exactly that's why Klopp selection was wrong, if he had been resting like Milner I would have understood the selection. In addition Gini and Hendo were awful at OT last season as well. Milner wouldn't have been so easily ratled. Fabs also deserves a mention at this time, he has been good for most of this season but was all over the place yesterday. No composure at all, a rabbit caught in the headlights.


8.) 21 Oct 2019 22:56:56
Red Wolfe, whilst Klopp is right to say that if the ref is letting play continue because he thinks VAR will help him out and then VAR doesn’t overturn the decision because the bar is so high that they don’t then intervene, that would indeed be ludicrous. I don’t think that that is how it is being applied though and I think Klopp is wrong, I think maybe he’s stating his opinion on what’s going on, but I’m pretty certain that it isn’t how the ref’s are using it otherwise there wouldn’t be this ‘high threshold’ benchmark.


9.) 21 Oct 2019 23:54:46
Lfchopeful, you make some valid points. Klopp gave an opinion in the moment. He never said it is how it is. It may not be how VAR is being used BUT it could be the way the refs are operating mentally in the moment. Klopp also mentioned that the way VAR is used is not clear and defined cos the rules are not clear and defined hence, it always seems to be confusing cos it is inconsistent and there, he has a point.

Klopp mentioned the City game where Zaha fouls KDB clearly in the box. The ref is right there YET he waves play on BIUT is checking with VAR knowing fully well, they won't overturn it so why bother? This is the inconsistency he is talking about and IMO, the rules were set up in bad faith cos they are there to absorb the refs from blame rather than get the decisions right due exactly to this high threshold that they themselves know can seemingly never be met.


10.) 22 Oct 2019 03:39:47
Playing him wide right was to pin the utd fullback. Was it young? It was hindering our fullbacks getting forward. It was great tactics.

We need to get milly on the pitch, we look a lot better with him in the team. We haven't been playing well for a while.


 

 

09 Oct 2019 13:03:35
Hi Ed's

Just wanted your thoughts on the Club World Cup that we are paying in this year with the Quarter final on Wednesday 18th. Do you no when the final will be should we progress?

Also do you think Klopp will treat this cup as he does the Carabou and change the whole squad with Mixture of fringe players and youth?

Also do you see it as a waste of time or worth winning?

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool will also play on 21st regardless of the result on 18th. There is a 3rd place play off followed by the final. I have no idea who the manager will choose to play. Whilst worth winning as any competition is, it is at best a major nuisance to the club.}


1.) 09 Oct 2019 13:43:01
I think it will be taken seriously, Real Madrid who won it few times always played their galacticos in the final at least . Its all about image and star players etc .


2.) 09 Oct 2019 13:47:16
A major nuisance is a understatement Ed.


3.) 09 Oct 2019 13:55:39
Liverpool Champions of the World
OR
World Champions Liverpool

Have a nice sound and feel to it.


4.) 09 Oct 2019 14:52:50
Sounds like ideal chance for game time for likes of. Shaqiri, clyne (if fit) Adrian, lovren, origi, Elliott, Brewster etc. Maybe have a few of main players on bench incase. Rest the majority of our main players ahead of busy xmas period.


5.) 09 Oct 2019 17:20:39
I want the gold badge! It is not one we have ever won so would be good to get it.

Not to mention there is a financial gain from winning.


6.) 09 Oct 2019 17:50:42
And a winning mentality TSR keep momentum give the players some psychological boost for the second half of the season.


7.) 09 Oct 2019 23:11:08
> Maybe have a few of main players on bench incase. Rest the majority of our main players
======================
The final is most likely against the south american champion and these teams are n't a walk over, will be very competitive and owners/ Klopp and players will want to win it .
If the players made an effort of travelling there, then they might as well play and win.


 

 

03 Oct 2019 09:25:04
Good morning Ed001

On last nights game, I am pleased we got the job done and he points in the bag but jeez it was a struggle.

Gomez looked rusty but the worrying thing for me is that we looked tired. Gini Hendo and evening Fabs looked very jaded and offered little protection to the back 2. I say back 2 as our full backs spent most of the game in the opposition half of the field. We just looked so open and I've not seen a like that in a long while.

Do you think we did look tired and could be the amount of games taking its toll, or just a case of us underestimating our opponents on the night? We need to sort it for Leicester else we will struggle to get the points.

Virgilfc_2018

{Ed001's Note - it was nothing to do with tiredness. It was just that it was so easy for the first 30 minutes the players took the foot off their pedal thinking they had it won and mentally relaxed. That is why the passes got sloppy and they got back into it.}


1.) 03 Oct 2019 10:51:30
As Klopp said, it was a valuable lesson learnt. You can not be complacent against any team as they all have the ability to punish you. We started being sloppy after robbos goal and them equalising gave us the kick we needed to get the job done.
Man city had a similar lesson against Norwich, the difference was we were able to also get the required result.


2.) 03 Oct 2019 11:20:55
Players defs took their foot of the pedal, but the change in tactics helps them also.

Playing the 2 on our centre backs 2 on the full backs and pushing up on Fab, didn't realy give us time to play out from the back.

But mainly our lads thinking it was a done deal.


3.) 03 Oct 2019 11:54:09
It was a great game for us. We would have learned very little if we had smashed them 6-0. Instead, we won the game and exposed weaknesses in our side that we can now address and work on. Hopefully, goal difference will end up being meaningless in our group and we can look back at this game as a 3 pt learning exercise.


4.) 03 Oct 2019 12:13:44
I was super impressed with our first 30-35mins, we were absolutely unplayable at times, and we haven’t clicked like that for a while. Thereafter I agree with Ed, we just switched off and got a bit nonchalant thinking it was all too easy. Fair play to Leipzig though, I thought they were very good value at exploiting this fact, and Minamino was exceptional in the spaces between the lines.

What impressed me also however, was how we then seemed to steady ourselves and press back for the win. Hard to do when you’ve conceded 3 in 20mins, and in previous years we wouldn’t have had the confidence to harden the f up and get back into that game. We probably would have gotten completely panicked, backed off and ended up conceding a 4th. Thought Milner and Origi really helped steady things and Origi’s hold up play when we cleared the ball was better than I’ve seen from him in a long while which helped us keep possession more.

I agree with Virgil the scare may not do us too much harm in the long run.


5.) 03 Oct 2019 12:44:41
I love the way we play and it’s a case of live by the sword die by the sword and by that I mean we take risks at the back by pushing our full backs so far forward and that was evident by Robbo’s goal. Our right back was in line with their 18 yard box crossing the ball in and our left back was in the 6 yard box scoring. Sometimes the reward outweighs the risk. Sometimes it doesn’t and bites you in the backside. Thankfully for us at the moment we seem to be coming out with the win every time.


6.) 03 Oct 2019 17:13:26
Spot on, Ed. The first 30 mins was or seemed WAY too easy for us to just get in behind them and core 3 goals. In fact, we could have scored 5 and no one would have blinked. However, RBS got enough chances too to score at least 2 goals as well. As someone said, that is the risk-reward side of our play.

What I did not like was the lack of structure, discipline and control of the whole team. Everybody's head just left the building it seemed like. Even Adrian who was sound all game, got in on the act. We were careless in possession and lacked any type of tactical nous. Against a team like RBS who IMO, are a scary team esp. on the counter with their pace and movement upfront, you are asking for trouble and we got what our slack play deserved.

However Klopp reacted brilliantly by introducing Milner who brought some calmness and structure to our team and when we steadied the ship, we got the goal (Sadio should have had a 5th) and RBS never got a sniff till the end. We must learn to control games better which to me, should be the next level of our progression and even Klopp knows that cos he has been saying it all season.

{Ed001's Note - Millie and Divvy turned the game when they came on. It is disappointing how everyone just got sloppy all at once though. That can't happen again.}


7.) 03 Oct 2019 19:47:19
ed001 I thought we was sloppy all night. but like you said it was easy and in the first 35 mins we did a few good movies and looked like we could score a will and after the 3rd went it them moves just stopped. but I thought in side the ground the atmosphere was the same I think we thought it was just turning up was good enough and it nearly was. But I don't think it was probably are best result all season because of the lesson we learnt you normally get something like that now and again to just to remind you not to take any team for granted but you normally lose or draw them so happy with the 3 points.

{Ed001's Note - hopefully it is the kick up the arse needed and not going to confirm in the players' minds that they can get away with it.}


8.) 03 Oct 2019 19:58:20
I can't imagine Klopp was very pleased with the performance. He'll make sure it doesn't happen again.


9.) 03 Oct 2019 22:00:55
I agree Milner and Origi got us back control. Milner for me is positionally our best midfielder, he can take the sting out of the game and regain control. This for me is where some of the other players can improve.

Orgi also did very well and for 2 games in a row he has really contributed to the victory. Very impressive given his lack of game time. It seems a good idea to me to give Origi more game time. Take of the least performing forward (or even midfielder) and give him 30 minutes. A good way to keep the front 3 on their toes.

Gomez is a player who needs games, when he was returning from injuries he had some poor performances for the under 23's. He really just needs a proper run in the side. Matip is playing so well it might be difficult.


10.) 03 Oct 2019 21:42:45
Our game management has been brilliant in the last 18 months or so, we tend to do enough to win and little else and almost coast until the games over while not allowing the opposing side a way back in.
So it was disappointing to see us completely switch off against RBS, that wasn’t the usual game management it was a lack of respect, you can manage a game but you can’t completely switch off from it, you’ve still got to put in some effort.
However it was also good to see us switch back on again when we needed a goal and we got that goal.
So positives and negatives from that game but at least we can learn from the negatives.


 

 

 

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11 Nov 2019 17:19:18
No worries Ed mate appreciate your reply anyway keep us informed please.

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11 Nov 2019 16:58:51
Can’t be any truth in us after Fraser Ed’s?

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{Ed002's Note - It makes little sense to me if true. His contract runs out in the summer and there is interest from elsewhere so a move for him now, given that Bournemouth have so far not agreed a new deal, miight see some sort of deal including Harry Wilson. Whilst he has not performed as well as expected this season the capability is in there somewhere. Right now I am on the train heading for Heathrow so checking is not so easy.}


 

 

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04 Nov 2019 19:31:55
Fair enough Ed, so you might get chance Time permitting or you might not. Either is cool with us. I appreciate your a busy person. 😁.

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04 Nov 2019 13:41:23
Hi Ed002, has this past now mate? I take it you are busy busy travelling.

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{Ed002's Note - I am in England for a few days and then will be gone for a few weeks.}


 

 

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09 Oct 2019 15:00:19
We are more open Cobra, full backs pushed on and our centre halves seem to have pushed up on the half way line when we are in possession. It’s working so far, although we have pushed our luck and conceded quite a few chances. So I guess question has to be asked if it is working? Results would say yes.

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05 Nov 2019 18:08:14
We have to look to win the CWC imo and send the first team squad to Qatar to utilise the facilities and warm weather, then leave the youngsters for Villa surely Ed’s?

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{Ed001's Note - that does seem the most logical course of action.}


 

 

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01 Nov 2019 11:03:49
If I had to choose which game to win I would prefer the CWC over the Carabou. Just my opinion and 2 games to get another trophy. Decent looking 🏆 also lol.

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31 Oct 2019 13:54:29
Cheers Ed, might be a good thing then if the facilities are good, we could well win it then, although clearly not priority I have it higher than the Carabou don’t you?

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{Ed001's Note - personally I just want to win everything. I am old school and go along with the Shankly mantra of the next game is the most important.}


 

 

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31 Oct 2019 11:15:24
So you think we will more than likely send a very week squad out to the CWC in December mate?

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{Ed001's Note - no, I think we will take pretty much everyone out there as the Aspire facilities are possibly the best in the world medically. I just expect the team to be heavily rotated.}


 

 

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18 Oct 2019 13:11:14
I think we are on court today are we not Ed? With NB trying to sort the mess out. NB want to remain with us. How do you see this panning out Ed, as regards to who will be our sponsor next season?

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{Ed002's Note - I don’t know how it will turn out but if Liverpool are in breach of the contract then there are two options available - strike a similar or better deal with NB, else negotiate a pay off for NB that they accept.}