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15 Apr 2019 12:22:07
Morning all

I've just been reading through all pages including the Utd one, Ed002 I noticed you gave your thoughts on what you think try need to do on the field in the close season ready for next season. Wondered if you could give a similar summary for us please, apologies if you've already done so.


{Ed002's Note - Ask next week please.}

1.) 15 Apr 2019 13:30:26
Ed002 next week please 😉
Up the pool.

2.) 15 Apr 2019 14:16:32
Ok Ed will do. Have a good week mate.



14 Apr 2019 10:31:36
Hi Ed, do you no if we Klopp still has an interest in Brandt please, or have we moved on? I guess it will probably be a "possible if Mane were to leave"? .


{Ed002's Note - My understanding is that Liverpool will be interested if Brandt is made available.}

1.) 14 Apr 2019 11:53:35
Thank you for your reply Ed. I’ve read he will definitely leave at end of season, but not sure how accurate that is.

{Ed002's Note - It is not accurate at all.}

2.) 14 Apr 2019 13:30:32
Cant see him sticking at Leverkusen without European football.

3.) 14 Apr 2019 16:14:48
He would want some guarantees regarding playing time. Cannot imagine him willing to sit on the bench and starting only domestic cups games.

4.) 14 Apr 2019 20:17:46
Hmm interesting. Not seen us really linked with anyone that I know that well. Brandt and Laxalt seem recurring names. I think as I've said before we need a right back option, a striker to give a different option and maybe left back cover.

{Ed0333's Note - Brandt can play anywhere across the front.

5.) 14 Apr 2019 20:31:30
I’d see him as a good buy think he’d get quite a bit of game time since he’s so versatile in his positions. I’ve liked what I’ve seen of him this season in his attacking / box to box type of role.

6.) 14 Apr 2019 21:35:47
People say they can't see him joining us without guaranteed playing time. let's face it he won't get that guarantee but at Leverkusen next year without European ball he's going to get 35-40 games at most, whereas with us with a squad good enough to go deep into the domestic cups he's going to get at least similar numbers, more if he proves himself and forces his way into the starting lineup.

7.) 15 Apr 2019 08:47:40
Little Naby, I think the player himself wanted assured playing time when we looked at him last time. I can’t see that will have changed but if Ed002 has said we are interested if he is available then I guess it’s doen to the club to persuade him mate.

8.) 15 Apr 2019 14:14:21
I don't understand the worrying about Brandt having "concern for playing time", unless he's publicly stated that concern. One (very small) criticism I have of Klopp is that he overplays guys because he doesn't like to compromise on players who haven't quite mastered his system (see Fabinho's and Oxlade-Chamberlain's slow integration, Shaqiri's disappearance when we moved to the 4-3-3). I would love to see him expand the rotation by a couple players. Brandt can play in the midfield or in the front 3. He'd be a perfect addition as there will be plenty of opportunity to play for a guy with this type of versatility.

{Ed002's Note - Brandt has previously expressed that concern.}

9.) 15 Apr 2019 22:10:22
If that’s the case then he’s destined to play for a mid table team for his entire career. If you want to play at the top table you will never be guaranteed playing time.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe Klopp should stop making such promises then.}

10.) 16 Apr 2019 10:21:53
Surely by now professional players understand that with the amount of games that have to be played each season demanding game time from a potential new club is ludicrous. Different systems to counteract different opponents etc automatically dictates players have to be rotated.

11.) 16 Apr 2019 14:20:21
Surely City ( I say begrudgingly) have shown a model whereby young stars and the ego’s that sometimes come with have been managed effectively; Sane being a good example of a player who would demand playing time but comes on and off the bench. I would feel disappointed that Brant would put playing time first, when our clubs aspirations look promising. In my opinion, no matter how big a player, they shouldn’t demand playing time ahead of any future signing. The player themselves should believe in their confidence and prove their metal on the pitch to earn playing time at a club.
My opinion, subject to criticism of course.

{Ed002's Note - Sane is looking at his options to move on.}

12.) 16 Apr 2019 16:17:36
Thanks Ed, that comes as a surprise. Is there a favoured destination?

{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware, but he is 23 and wants to be playing regularly as he thinks he is good enough. But there was some interest in Leroy Sane in January so Manchester City will look to resolve the situation.}

13.) 16 Apr 2019 19:33:12
Thanks Ed, appreciate the response. Best of luck to the lad.



07 Apr 2019 13:43:22
Hi Ed002, just wondering please if we will soon be getting any Sharkopods? Think you normally do them around now?


{Ed002's Note - reasonably soon

1.) 07 Apr 2019 15:52:15
Nice one Ed, will look forward to it.



03 Apr 2019 17:19:29
Hi Ed002

Regarding Bruno Fernandez please, you have said we are interested, have we watched him this season or does it date a while back? Also do you expect him to move inter summer? Not necessarily to us I just mean move somewhere in general?


{Ed002's Note - Bruno Fernandes (AM) has been of interest to Everton, Manchester United, Milan and Liverpool who have all looked at him on two or more occasions. Spurs maintain an interest but only if Christian Eriksen leaves. I am not aware of any interest at all from Inter. Asking price has more than doubled from what was already a high price in recent months and that has pushed aside interest from Juventus who don't see the value, Valencia and CSKA - and like priced him out of a move to all but a couple of the interested sides. Whilst Bayern Munich and another EPL side have looked as well, neither have a declared interest that I know of and both have other AM targets. Manchester United remain very keen and Milan have a creative solution in mind and it is certainly not out of the question that he will move to one of those sides this summer.}

1.) 03 Apr 2019 20:35:12
Thank you so much Ed for your detailed reply mate. Enjoy your evening.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}



28 Mar 2019 07:53:14
Hi Ed002

Just wanted to ask if you are aware if CHO agent has met or approached Lfc in anyway please? Appreciate it if you don't won't to open this up and I've read what you've said a few days ago on the subject.


{Ed002's Note - You mean his brother. Why would he approach Liverpool?}

1.) 28 Mar 2019 09:53:52
could people stop abbreviating names to save about 0.4 seconds please. Takes everyone else a good 8 seconds to work out who you mean. Cheers, all the best.

2.) 28 Mar 2019 10:11:08
No prob BV lol.

3.) 28 Mar 2019 10:31:27
I don’t no Ed, thank you for reply, I guess I’m just trying to figure out the depth of our interest in him mate. He wouldn’t approach us and it was a silly question tbh.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no declared interest and no space in the side unless Salah is sold.}

4.) 28 Mar 2019 12:20:11
He wants to be a first team regular which he wouldn’t be here so it would seem to me a pointless move, I personally think he’s better off developing at Chelsea.

5.) 28 Mar 2019 12:33:22
Agreed that these acronyms are annoying and out of control.

Is it not better to just use the first part of the surname for hyphenated names?


It's not as if there are a whole bunch of Alexanders or Oxlades plying their trades in the EPL, let alone LFC, so I am sure we will all understand who is being referred to.

6.) 28 Mar 2019 17:59:41
oh my goodness I am laughing out loud. in my opinion callum hudson odoi hasn't earned the right to have his name abbreviated.

7.) 28 Mar 2019 18:24:50
Thanks Faith, was still trying to work out who CHO was.

8.) 28 Mar 2019 19:36:20
I like how auto correct changes it to Hudson-Odour so for that reason alone we should keep it longhand.

9.) 28 Mar 2019 21:41:27
And of course who could forget all the fun we had with
Navy Keith and

Mo Salad.

10.) 28 Mar 2019 23:32:40
Who else could TAA be?
Who else could The Ox be?
They are the most common abbreviations of those twos names and don’t leave much room for confusion.

11.) 29 Mar 2019 07:34:07
In my line of work CHO stands for cold handover. Needless to say, the confusion was real here for a few moments.

12.) 29 Mar 2019 08:09:04
I remember Ed002 using abbreviations once to mention Mo Salah's agent. Baffled me for about 15 minutes.

{Ed002's Note - DF I imagine.}

13.) 29 Mar 2019 10:14:37
We could use team and squad number to identify players hehe.

14.) 30 Mar 2019 08:58:32
I honestly thought Cho was just a Chinese player I'd not heard of 😂.

15.) 03 Apr 2019 22:59:15
I thought it was shorthand for Carbohydrate.




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18 May 2019 22:43:38
Hi Ed002, are you aware if we had Scouts st Lyons game tonight please? If so do you know who we was scouting?


{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}

1.) 19 May 2019 09:56:58
Any of, or all of Depay, Aouar, Dembele and Fekir (didn't play) .

I've seen all 4 of those linked with us at different points in the last year.

2.) 19 May 2019 12:47:55
Epic we don’t have interest in 3 out of the 4 mate that I no of anyway.



17 May 2019 20:05:28
Hi Ed, I posted about Ziyech but not gone up mate. Was it out of context?


{Ed002's Note - Try the "dodgy" page.}

1.) 17 May 2019 20:36:48
Fair enough Ed. Think I will relax from posting for a while and see what develops.

{Ed001's Note - Ziyech has been dealt with a hundred times.}

2.) 17 May 2019 20:48:31
Or the European page, there's a recent update there.



15 May 2019 11:14:11
Transfer window opens tomorrow woooooop! Get ready for the onslaught Ed's.


1.) 15 May 2019 12:13:38
That’s news to me I thought it was June 1st. Thanks for the info.

2.) 15 May 2019 12:45:45
June 9th BPL and La Liga, Bundesliga july 1st.



11 May 2019 10:45:18
Ed if we were to win the CL and a 2nd place prem finish would Salah realise he can fulfil his dreams with us and not want to move, or is it not about that really?


{Ed002's Note - He wants to play elsewhere but for a couple of reasons cannot get the move he wants - so he is stuck at Liverpool.}

1.) 11 May 2019 11:39:55
Stop asking the same qestion every single day.

PS: reading about the couple of reasons again and again just makes me curious more what the heck is happening behind closed doors.

2.) 11 May 2019 11:54:14
Not asking the same questions Mart, don’t no why you’ve said that tbh such a strange reply and a reply looking to cause a reaction? Try to add something positive to the site and not pull me up for asking Ed a question.

3.) 11 May 2019 12:02:04
I don't know anything, but it seems that it is more that he just wants to play for one of the Spanish sides, RM or Barca. Not that he's unhappy at Liverpool, but just prefers Spain. I could be way off though.

{Ed001's Note - I would suggest it is money personally.}

4.) 11 May 2019 12:08:07
I know this will be unpopular.

Im a little worried aboit salah and the cl final. Many times this year he has gone for goal when a clear pass was the better option. He is going to want to be the shining star in madrid and i hope he makes the right decisions. On the other hand he could score a hattrick.

When i watch him play and celebrate to the fans, he doesn't look like an unhappy player who wants to leave.

Stuck at liverpool, cl finalist, top 5 team in the world, maybe top 3, maybe no1 (2 finals? ) poor mo salah.

5.) 11 May 2019 12:37:30
A new contract will probably change his ambitions at the club I would imagine.

6.) 11 May 2019 12:45:49
Great points all the way through that post Robbiesline.

Salah is probably very egotistical and rates himself far higher than he actually, this is also a cultural mindset within arabs and therefore belives that anyone but Barcelona or RM are of a lesser tier club.
And of course with Barcelona or RM comes more money and so called prestige.

The facts are that he had success in Italy but that was not seen as highly due to the state, style and quality of the Italian league.
He now has had tremendous successes at Liverpool but has not realised that that is down to the quality of the league but most importantly the style of football the club plays as well as having an excellent manager and far better quality team mates than at Roma.
Since he has not taken this in to consideration, he thinks it is all him and nothing but him.

This is simmilar to Coutinho as it was our style that accomidated him and let him flurish. In some ways he was a luxury player for us and you see that only now he is not here and see how well we still play without hima and sometimes even much better without him.

However, look at Coutinho now at Barca, he is in a difficult place and can be who he thought he was.

It is this lesson that Salah needs to take and learn from to see that the grass is not always greener on other side.

Even if he goes to Barcelona or RM then what is he really going to achieve winning La Liga in a 1 or possibly 2 horse race?
He might as well go PSG.
These clubs are all in transition and they will take time before they seriously compete again, maybe 1 or 2 years, by which time Salah will be 29/ 30 towards the end of his career.

I would have thought as a football player, you would want to create a legacy and history for yourself.

Michael Owen was a prime example of this mistake, left liverpool for RM and in that same season we win the UCL. Then Owen goes om a merry go round of clubs after RM, all amounting to nothing.
Before you say anything, collecting medals from the bench or the treatment table does not hold any credibility in a debate.

7.) 11 May 2019 12:50:19
That makes sense Ed, thanks.

8.) 11 May 2019 13:25:15
Top post Red Kurd. If I could have given you more than 1 thumbs up I would.
We see this time and time again where the coach, system, etc makes a very good player seem even better. When these players move to a new environment it isn't as easy as before when the club is set up around you.
LFC make stars and when one leaves another will be made.

9.) 11 May 2019 14:01:49
Wish I could be stuck on 200 grand a week.

10.) 11 May 2019 14:08:25
Brill post red kurd.

Ciutinho was never going to be a loss imo. Yes we have not scored many from outside the box this year and that was his main contribution.

A year before he left I started accumulating his performance scores and as predicted he was piss poor a lot of the time, scored a great goal some of the time and got all the plaudite. some of the time he was out of this world and it was not forgotten for 10 games.

I prefer a 7 out of 10 player any day of the week over coutinho.

Your point about salah are valid but he is a player we will find extremely difficult to replace.

We will probably have to change our style and formation to accommodate a replacement.

So imo if it's about money, let's pay it. He has earnt it.

11.) 11 May 2019 14:30:50
Brommers I think one of the issues we have at LFC is we fear losing one of the main players, whereas Barcelona or RM just don't mind and they will happily offload a player like Coutinho whereas we were panicking.
The difference is they have invested heavily at the begining and gambled that that would get them success, which it has and they then use that success to attract replacements and that success keeps going.

Our issue is we need to hit a consistant period and a sustained period of success and that would have to include trophies and titles.

If you read ED02 notes or replies on the City page, you can see that City are following the same mould as Barcelona and RM as this season they are prepared to let go a few players (perhaps not out of their own choice as a club) whom we would consider big names, such as Mahrez Sane and perhaps Jesus etc.

The key to our succes is getting trophies, this then will make domestic (British) players aspire to play for LFC, which will allow us to build a solid foundation eg types such as Henderson, Gomez, Milner, TAA, Robertson and then the key world players may follow and from there create that perpetual cycle of success.

This is one of the reasons why I really want us to win a trophie this year and one of my pet hates of Klopp not taking the domestic cups seriously at all times and always playing with the strongest teams he has.

12.) 11 May 2019 15:13:01
Red Kurd,
Salah wants to go to Madrid or Barca, he is not exactly the first one that wants to go there nor will he be the last . How far do you want to go back, Ronaldo was wining the league year after year with Untied, still he made sure he gets his move to Madrid, Henry at Arsenal winning (some) trophies, did n't sign a new contract so he can go to Barcelona . Same argument were had about Suarez and many many more . none of these players are Arabs.

And yes, they want Madrid or Barcelona, because of the prestige and weather, Coutinho already won few medals with them, Madrid the only club that won CL 3 years in a row, 13 CL titles, more than double those in second place. Them with Barcelona still top 2 clubs in the world, and Liverpool need to start winning things before they start be counted . Holland of the late 70s were great, but hardly anyone remember them, because they won jack.

13.) 11 May 2019 15:19:41
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it. Salah is going nowhere. Deep breaths everyone.

14.) 11 May 2019 17:06:09
Ravi123 I agree with your view and you are right it most likely is about money but I do wonder if we do give him the money, how long before his ego and desire kicks in and he wants to leave for RM or Barca.
Also will this set a prescednet for him and others, just like I read every year almost that Messi gets a new contract or rleztension with even more money than previous one.

We actually do not need a Messi - look at Braca they are forced to play everything through Messi with no real plan B, all because they have fed that ego over and over agin and now have a monster on their hands thet they can not dare to retire!
When Messi retires then what will they do? They will have to change their style and restart from deep down.
It was a complete team performance that beat Barcelona without our "tslisman" salah.

15.) 12 May 2019 00:44:13
Roy your points are very true.
Though you have to keep in mind that players of Spanish or Portuguese culut will always want to play for Barcelona or RM, just the same as British players want to play for their favourte team.

Also do keep in mind that at least Barcelona major successes have been in the last 10/ 15 years with regards to UCL. Prior to that they only had 1 or 2, at most UCL.

The other thing in both Barcelona and RM have had a big advantage due to football being pushed more and more glowbally.
This has helped them seem they are more successfull and more powerfull than reality, a but like creating a myth.

We can also create that myth globally by winning titles and trophies.

16.) 12 May 2019 03:09:04
Me too Kimuraking!

£200k per week? I’d sign in June and retire mid August 👍.

17.) 12 May 2019 16:41:16
Good reply red kurd. you're bang on. He seemed a little embarrased not to be in a liverpool tracksuit during the barceloan celebrations. I know he wasnt in the squad but other players who werent, lallana for example, he had a liverpool training top on. Mo didnt.

I dunno, i find it hard to belueve any first team player would want to leave liverpool right now.



09 May 2019 06:30:02
Anyone else feel less confident about the CL final as soon as Spurs 3rd goal went in last night? Probably me being negative but a fully fit Spurs squad won't be easy on the night.


1.) 09 May 2019 08:13:14
OP, No CL final is easy regardless of opposition or their fitness levels. Both team are two of the fittest teams in Europe at this point cos it seems they can play for two days with the intensity they both play with. If you are expecting a CL final to be easy then you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

Our league games vs Spurs are always tough cos we are mirror images of each other due to the way we play and the intensity we both play with, IMO. That is what I did not want hence, wanted Ajax. It does not mean Ajax would be easier. It just means they would be tough BUT in a different way.

Now, we have Spurs and we will be ready for them. Another thing that is in our favor is experience and continuity. At least 8 or 9 of the starters from Kiev if all are fit, will start this final. That can NOT be underestimated.

2.) 09 May 2019 09:54:16
Must admit my stomach sank when they got through.




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10 May 2019 19:04:20
If he has just signed a new contract Ed will he no doubt be hard to get then. Would he be expensive without asking you to name a precise figure?


{Ed002's Note - Most players are expensive in the big scheme of things.}



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10 May 2019 16:49:18
Is he getable Ed this summer?


{Ed002's Note - Hw is just a player the club has looked at.}



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09 May 2019 18:37:41
Jesus there is some crap floating about lol.




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08 May 2019 18:54:20
He has. I chance of saving us some money then Ed rather than splashing out on the likes of Brandt, Fekir etc. Shame really.


{Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}



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05 May 2019 18:42:40
Did Bobby playing that ten minutes v Barcelona make it worse Ed or has he picked up another injury?


{Ed025's Note - i really dont know sorry mate..




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19 May 2019 12:47:55
Epic we don’t have interest in 3 out of the 4 mate that I no of anyway.




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18 May 2019 18:59:16
It’s not a trophy though Longthing, sighs.


{Ed002's Note - Right, but it is still better to win the game than not.}



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18 May 2019 10:00:08
Ed025 did you not see him for large parts this season? I get what your saying with the tinted red glasses etc but come on he has been quality and one of our best players. I think it’s a case of you having Blue tinted glasses on mate lol. Tbh I’m not arsed who plays international football and who doesn’t but the Brazil selector set up is and has been for a long time twisted to say th livery least.


{Ed025's Note - after a very dodgy start he has done very well virgil, when i watched him at monaco i was not impressed and thought he would struggle in the EPL but he has proven me wrong, im not saying hes a world beater but hes certainly better than i thought mate, maybe bacchi thinks he needs a rest after all the games he has played and with the CL coming up?....or maybe he reads my reviews.. :)



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17 May 2019 20:36:48
Fair enough Ed. Think I will relax from posting for a while and see what develops.


{Ed001's Note - Ziyech has been dealt with a hundred times.}



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17 May 2019 16:43:14
Owe. Dagger in the heart Ed. I thought for sure we would bid for him. Is there anyone else for LW / AM position we are or could well look at? I guess the Sharkopod when you get chance to do it would answer most of these questions mate.


{Ed002's Note - Nothing beyond those I have previously mentioned.}