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25 Jan 2020 09:21:16
I'm assuming the reported 47 million bid for Isco which has reportedly been rejected is bull?

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - Is Isco a Havertz replacement.}


1.) 25 Jan 2020 11:21:53
i read we have moved on to fabion ruiz after isco bid rejected.


 

 

17 Jun 2019 09:15:03
Hi Ed's just wanted to ask has there been any new developments in Clyne at all?

Jonesred

{Ed001's Note - not that I know of. I had expected him to make the loan permanent, but they are having a rethink due to his lifestyle.}


1.) 17 Jun 2019 09:38:53
Saw him stocking up on pizzas and junk in Waitrose by ours with his boys. Clearly living his best life!


2.) 17 Jun 2019 10:20:12
He got the munchies!


3.) 17 Jun 2019 10:36:17
Should have never signed him. The Southampton defence at the time before he moved made him look good.

He is just costing the club more and more money the longer he stays on.

We would be better off terminating his contract and pay what is due to him as he is on holday at Anfield and unlikely any club going to take on his wages.

{Ed001's Note - he never looked good at Southampton or Palace, it was a bizarre signing caused by bad scouting. One of the most important things is to check out a player's background and lifestyle and no one did that.}


4.) 17 Jun 2019 12:33:50
Such a short career in football so why waste it? Can party and do what you want at 36+ when you retire!


5.) 17 Jun 2019 15:18:48
What lifestyle choices is he making? Is he a smoker? Party man?


6.) 18 Jun 2019 22:35:57
What's all this about his lifestyle?


 

 

28 Mar 2019 21:31:18
Can any of the Ed's confirm if there is any reported interest in Lovren from Napoli, Milan and Roma?

This has been in reports today but just wondered if you could clarify.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - The first I have heard of this and am not in a position to check as I am away. What I can say is that Milan and Roma have tentative CB targets and he would make a viable financial option. Napoli I am not so sure and rather doubt he would be a viable option if their situation changed and needed a CB. Regardless, he is experienced and generally seen as a good player.}


1.) 28 Mar 2019 21:59:41
Cheers for clearing up Ed. Much appreciated.


2.) 29 Mar 2019 00:59:14
As always, ED02, many thanks for your contribution with questions like this.

Enjoy your time away.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}


3.) 29 Mar 2019 05:41:13
Personally I can't see Lovren going anywhere, not this year.


4.) 29 Mar 2019 07:18:40
Seen these rumours and while I hope he stays I wouldn't hold it against him if he would want to leave. Great back up and we might struggle to find a better back up centre back who is comfortable playing in a defence with a high line.

Ed do you know if he is looking to leave?

{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.)


5.) 29 Mar 2019 19:18:21
i think the main worrying stat is that lovren hasn't played more than something like 6 games in a row before being injured.

whilst i have no doubt he is a decent player we can't have a group of injury prone CB's.


6.) 29 Mar 2019 21:39:24
Have to respectfully disagree salah, Lovren is a champions league and world cup finalist he would get into plenty of top teams in the world. He gets a hard time from a lot of Liverpool fans, myself included at times, but he is a top centre back and will attract interest as he ha fallen behind gomez and arguably matip in pecking order. Will be 3rd choice for us at best next season why would he not look to go elsewhere?


7.) 30 Mar 2019 10:25:47
I agree bmena, I like him as a player mate, he's not incredible or anything but sure, he's a good player and is a good backup, I'm sure teams will be interested in him but all I meant was A. I don't see him wanting to leave and B. I don't see us wanting to sell, not yet. Who knows, it may happen but nothing suggests it will anytime soon, we all know how full of sh*t the media are.


8.) 30 Mar 2019 22:52:40
Matip undoubtedly had a good run of games. But he hasn't taken Lovren's place, in my mind. Lovren is a key player for our defense, even if he is not going to be in the first 11 week in, week out. Fitness levels permitting, he is interchangeable with Gomez, with very little fall off in quality. And fitness levels permitting, he allows, Gomez to be interchangeable with Alexander-Arnold at RB. Sure, Matip gives you the same, but i believe there is a noticeable drop off in quality.


9.) 31 Mar 2019 11:45:37
Lovren is a good player with very good attributes but concerns me he can’t play more than 6 games in a row to be more consistent we need less injury prone players .


10.) 01 Apr 2019 12:08:34
Matip is better than Lovren.

{Ed001's Note - in what way?}


11.) 01 Apr 2019 12:43:49
In the way he beat Kane to every high ball yesterday and stuck with his man rather than getting drawn to the ball, sorry tris but imo lovren is a liability and although matip looks gangly he’s very good in the air and ain’t bad at reading the game, I thought he was very good yesterday bar the one slip.

{Ed001's Note - one slip? He was out of position constantly and is far too slow, constantly giving away needless free kicks that even he got annoyed with himself for giving away. I really do not know what you saw but it was nothing like reality.}


12.) 01 Apr 2019 13:00:24
Still better than lovren though 😉, have a good day mate.

{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced but nice comeback.}


13.) 01 Apr 2019 15:11:47
In the words of Gerard Butler “this is madness”.


14.) 03 Apr 2019 00:35:51
I assume Gomez is the future, Lovren would be seen as first choice if not for injuries and Matip has covered well when he wasn't expected to play half the games he got. That said, I expect Matip to be moved on or kept one more year until his contract expires. Milner and Moreno will probably move on, as will Randall, so an investment in a left sided defender is pretty likely this summer. Personally like to see a center back come too but only if there's a worldie out there. Can't see midfield needing too much but an attacking player is needed to replace Sturridge and Origi.


 

 

09 Feb 2019 00:23:28
Lot of people talking about who will be bought for next season, but what about the youngsters and loaners?

For me most likely youngster will be one of the full backs as we have so may potentially good ones at the academy.
For me one of Lewis, Arroyo, Juanma, Gallagher, Camacho or even Hoever will be the youngster that I'd like to break into the squad.


Out of the loanees I think (which might not be a popular choice) is Grujic. I just have this sneaky feeling he will take his chance pre season.

Might not be everyone's first choices but let me know who would be choices from a loanee and a youngster.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 02:20:45
I really like the look of Paul Glatzel and hope he gets some game time in pre season and let's see what happens.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 10:08:36
I'd like to see how Neco Williams or Hoever would do covering right back. Just don't see Klopp prioritising a back up rightfull when there's a lot of talent at the club. Also if a centre back was brought in as competition to VVD and Gomez (de ligt the dream), it would likely be someone who could fill in at rightfull too.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 14:03:11
Wilson will rip it up for us next season imo.

{Ed025's Note - dont bank on it lerchy..


4.) 09 Feb 2019 15:54:31
I think we will cash in on Wilson next window to be honest.

I think Wilson, Ojo, Randall, Chiravella, Kent and possibly Woodburn will all be sold. I can’t see any breaking through. I think the more likely position a youngster will break through in is at full back.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 16:20:39
Any reason bout Wilson Ed025?

{Ed025's Note - i have seen quite a bit of him LN and for me he is very lightweight, the prem is a different beast to the championship mate and i think he would find it difficult..


6.) 09 Feb 2019 17:02:01
Whys that ed? And i disagree jones i've watched harry since he was a kid down prenton park and his goals have always been sublime. Id like to think he will break through next season.

{Ed025's Note - hes very good at free kicks lerchy and if you could bring him on just for them he would be an asset, the rest of his game is mediocre at best though and hes not strong enough for the prem imo mate..


7.) 09 Feb 2019 17:32:08
I understand that's always been a concern but the championship is probably as physical as the bpl for me, more tough tackles than showboating for me, also harry has been brilliant, a lot more than free kicks, he's been orchastrating well from deep and were it not for the woodwork he'd have a few more goals.

I think he gets in on the right for me with shaq benched or even cm. Definitely our brightest home grown prospect on loan currently.

{Ed001's Note - I would say the Championship is more physical.}


8.) 09 Feb 2019 17:38:15
Do you think harry will make it with us tris? I hear klopp rates him very highly.


9.) 10 Feb 2019 07:20:05
Sometimes players do need to bulk up and strengthen, just look at Sterling when he first arrived.

{Ed001's Note - sorry just saw lerchy's question so will reply to it here before I forget. I expect Wilson to be given the chance to make it, whether or not he does it up to him.}


10.) 10 Feb 2019 16:27:57
It’s hard to integrate too many youngsters in a squad that’s still capable of challenging for top honours, but maybe 2-3 will get a shot and I’d like to see

- Sturridge for Rhian Brewster
- Lallana for Harry Wilson
- Moreno for Adam Lewis.


11.) 10 Feb 2019 17:13:28
Thanks ed and agree sg, brewster is very highly rated so should be around once fit, another loan for woodburn and grujic and i think its over for ejaria, kent and ojo though we should get decent money for kent as he's had a very good season.


12.) 10 Feb 2019 21:48:38
Love that Lerchy ‘if it weren’t for the woodwork he’d have more goals’! Best line I’ve heard in ages! 😂
If it weren’t but the woodwork there would just be a net on the floor! Lol!


13.) 11 Feb 2019 05:54:38
Loved the look of Adam Lewis since I first saw him whip in a cross for the 18s. Beautiful stuff.


 

 

08 Feb 2019 23:58:27
Can anyone see Grujic coming back into the squad next season?

I think he may well take his chance and become more of a squad player. If he did I think having both Grujic and Fabinho in the squad would allow Gini a more attacking role.

I can't see Rabiot happening if it did then I'd say Grujic is as good as gone, as although Grujic, Fabinho and Rabiot aren't the same player we couldn't accommodate the three in a squad.

Jonesred

1.) 09 Feb 2019 01:09:02
I don't think Gini would be good more attacking. We need more creativity.

Keita was meant to bring that but he's struggling. Lallana shows flashes of magic but is inconsistent and will most likely go before next season. The Ox returning should help so it'll most likely be the Ox and Keita fighting for the attacking role in the midfield 3 when playing 4-3-3.

Gini is good in the role he plays. Grujic might be in with a chance if Lallana and Milner go and he's happy with a bench role.

I don't think we'll bring in Rabiot, not sure. We might just get a couple of young players if Milner, Lallana and Grujic go.

Just my opinion as with Klopp probably trying to give Keita minutes and the Ox returning I doubt we'd spend too big in a midfielder who would take their spot.


2.) 09 Feb 2019 05:53:56
Take his chance and be a squad player. can't see himbeing keen tbh.


3.) 09 Feb 2019 10:18:20
I think there could be room for Rabiot and Grujic EVENTUALLY, if we could get Rabiot in this summer and loan Grujic to a German side hopefully in europe it could work. By then the likes of Hendo and Gini will be 30 and Grujic will hopefully have established himself more. Just wouldn't give up on him yet there's a player there.


4.) 09 Feb 2019 12:47:13
The best thing for Grujic and his career would be to move on, otherwise he runs the risk of becoming the next Markovic and wasting years when he could be playing regular elsewhere. Nothing against him as a player, just don't see him becoming a first team regular.


5.) 09 Feb 2019 13:04:17
Difference between him and Markovic is Grujic has gone in and being d main man from day one in a team fighting for a european spot whereas Markovic struggled for game time wherever he went. Everyone can't be written off as a Markovic the minute they hit 22.


6.) 09 Feb 2019 14:49:08
Grujic should move on for the sake of his career. He is no Markovic, but he isn't going to get in to our side right now.


7.) 09 Feb 2019 18:15:46
I think Grujic will be sold in the summer.


 

 

 

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10 Feb 2020 13:49:53
I've been wondering whether Klopp would be audacious and make enquiries on Martinelli of Arsenal. I know it's left field and that we have Origi, but I'd love Martinelli at Anfield as our fourth choice striker.

He can play anywhere up front has years and years on his side and potentially an excellent striker for many years to come. I think at his age he's a perfect fourth choice for us. Not in a bad way but I don't see Origi as a player who will be first choice week in and out, if/ when one of Firmino, Salah or Mane leave.

But in Martinelli I do see a player who could progress and naturally replace on of them over next few years, in the nicest way I don't see Origi being able to do that.

Over the years we've seen the club on the up, signing players from the other top six rivals, so why shouldn't we try? His wages wouldn't be a threat to our structure either as he's on relatively low wages and still not yet a regular for his club who are in a transitional period.

In my opinion I think he'd be interested if we moved for him, admittedly Arsenal wouldn't be. I remember Klopp labelled him the best striker of his generation when we played them in cup, so I think Klopp would take him. Also we have three Brazilians already in squad who would help him settle.

An ideal summer's business for me would be both Martinelli and Havertz that would be more than In my opinion. We have quality youngsters to cover the full back positions and I could see a few players leave this summer also.

Plus we have Jones and Grujic still to break through, so we don't need a lot of players just a couple each year.

I can honestly see all of Lallana, Origi, Lovren, Clyne, Chirvella and maybe Matip if Klopp remains interested in the centre half whose name I forget. Was it Rodriguez or something?

Anyway just an opinion but would be interested in hearing views of others.

Jonesred

{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath about Martinelli and Havertz. The centre half is Garcia.}


1.) 10 Feb 2020 14:09:41
I have watched Havertz a few times these season and for £100m there are much better options. Would rather give Curtis Jones a try. Martinelli looks good but no chance of that happening.


2.) 10 Feb 2020 14:58:23
Ed002 I thought the defender we was looking at was Diego Carlos?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, oops.}


3.) 10 Feb 2020 15:06:44
Lol not that I was correcting you at all 😂.

He does look decent but I’m not sure what it would mean fir Gomez future.

{Ed002's Note - It will put Gomez in the position of covering the defensive positions but not being a starter. Don't lose sight of the Home Grown quota is potentially going to be an issue next season with two players no longer under 21 and three HG players possibly departing which means the club will only be able to add one non-HG player without others leaving from the first team squad. If ICD were to be sold the club may not start the season with a full over 21 squad.}


4.) 10 Feb 2020 15:59:46
Right ok Ed, could be a few HG players in and out then in the close season. Which 3 HG players are possibly leaving please, and who is ICD?

{Ed002's Note - Lallana, Clyne, possibly James Milner, Isaac Christie-Davies .}


5.) 10 Feb 2020 16:53:42
Ok mate fair enough. Could he an interesting summer ahead then, and signing foreign players might not be straight forward if we are restricted.


6.) 10 Feb 2020 19:20:34
I find it interesting the OP suggested Martinelii might leave first team football at arsenal to be our 4th choice striker I will guess I'm being pedantic and he actually meant first choice back up to the front 3 as that's the only logic I could see the player being even remotely interested in us.


7.) 10 Feb 2020 20:17:39
Does the HG quota make it more likely that Jones will remain in the first team squad?

{Ed002's Note - No, it is unrelated to Jones and others under 21.}


8.) 11 Feb 2020 02:23:36
I think martinelli will have his eyes on replacing aubameyang who will surely be moving on within next year or so and arsenal will be hoping and wanting him to step up and not need to splash out on a striker. If we went for him arsenal would want big money and martinelli himself might not want to swap the chance of being probable main forward at arsebal to being a back up for us.

We haven't really signed from our top rivals either as poster suggested we have lately. Only oxlade Chamberlain that I can think since klopp arrived. Solanke from Chelsea doesn't really count.


9.) 11 Feb 2020 04:49:57
I think Lovren will look to leave which will free up one non-HG spot.


10.) 11 Feb 2020 10:11:11
Although he’s had a few more games this season I wouldn’t say he’s first choice at Arsenal yet. There’s still Aubamayang and Lacazette ahead of him when both fit, and they have the other youngster Saka is it?

Not sure how long he has on contract either, but I’d say he would play more than Origi does for us. He’d be potentially leaving a club in transition with no guarantee of CL football to join the current World, European, Super Cup champions and potentially title holders at end of season and also playing for one of the top managers in world football. Personally I think he’d be interested, so an enquiry would be worth the effort.


11.) 11 Feb 2020 16:42:56
Gomez out? For cover? Wtf? The lad is absolutely class. That would be ruthless but I guess you have to be to remain imperious. This is something I both hate and love. Weird.


12.) 11 Feb 2020 19:14:04
Jonesred, Martinelli is a very promising young player who is showing his quality but he still has a lot to prove before a) Dislodging Laca and Auba and b) Get anywhere near being the first option off the bench at LFC esp. since Minamino and Origi are already here,

I also disagree that Martinelli would play more than Origi cos simply put, Martinelli is yet to prove himself at the highest level (PL and CL) the same way Origi has. Also, Origi plays where he is told to play. He can play wide (IMO, not his best position) or CF and scores goals playing either position regardless of the opposition. Au contraire, Martinelli is yet to show he can play either role and score goals from either role. Also, Klopp rates Origi very highly cos if he did not, Origi would have been long gone. So for me, we have enuff cover with Origi and Minamino so Martinelli is not needed.


13.) 11 Feb 2020 23:06:31
Origi is a confidence player. The more he plays the more he scores, unfortunately he isn't getting the game time. I feel for him. What more can he do? Wins us the champions league and still plays behind Bobby. Martinelli looks great but I wouldn't swap him for origi. Not in a million years. Origi is a power house. Who would walk into most teams in our league. Probably 18 of them.

I quite like origi out wide. He can cut in and I think he's probably the gest finisher of the four/ five forwards in the squad. Mane's pretty good but I'd have div just in front. Good in the middle too. Just a great player to have. Defenders must weep inside when they're tired and see big origi stretching on the sideline.


 

 

25 Jan 2020 09:39:54
I think Martinelli of Arsenal would be a great buy for us. Unlikely admittedly but looks a real talent, relatively low wages and at a great age.

Plays across the front three positions and would settle with our Brazilian contingent.

Jonesred

1.) 25 Jan 2020 10:55:53
I watched him play for Arsenal in the Europa league back at the start of the season (he scored twice) and the next day I told my Arsenal supporting work colleague he was the closest I'd seen to Fernando Torres (Liverpool version) since the man himself. The pace, the balance, the willingness to run the channels, run in behind, win headers, battle with defenders, go past players. He us a complete forward.

For me he is the best teenager in world football. If we signed him I'd be ecstatic.


2.) 25 Jan 2020 11:06:38
OP, Minamino is just as talented and can do exactly what Martinelli is doing now and is older and more experienced in Europe and in the CL so IMO, he would not be needed.

{Ed025's Note - for me minamino is a bit lightweight for the prem, he could prove me wrong though..like fabinho and henderson..


3.) 25 Jan 2020 11:42:12
I still think that there’s room for an AM in our squad.
We do play that way occasionally (tthe set-up described by PB above, see Wolves the other night) and I think it’s a system that Klopp would turn to more regularly with the right AM. In fact, if Coutinho had stayed, that would have been our main style.
It’s a role that maybe Keita, Ox or Minamino could fill and I also think that Bobby could play very successfully there with a quick man ahead of him. Again, see the other night- Bobby was withdrawn to an AM and Salah went CF.

All in all, we have to develop that system better. We’ve become a very flexible, all-round team able to adapt to challenges but that AM system can be improved imo.


4.) 25 Jan 2020 14:37:34
There's room for both Minamino and Martinelli. If we go by what Klopp said at the pressie, Minamino is best between the lines and channels. Martinelli seems to be ideally suited to play CF. And I'm biased towards Brazilians. 🤷‍♂️.

{Ed047's Note - You’re not getting Martinelli so you can forget that! 🤣😉


5.) 25 Jan 2020 15:19:27
Craving over other teens while we should going all out to see our own getting a bit of footie. Both rumour and page are flooding with tons of other prospects we should be signing. Are we starting to finally agree with the what Ed said about Liverpool not being a team to develop and push through it's own young lot? Is the Arsenal kid any better than Elliot by that much that he should already be replacing him? We might be well positioned to win silver but somethings could be improved.


6.) 25 Jan 2020 15:21:54
Klopp loves him, described him as a “generational talent” after the 5-5 this year.


7.) 25 Jan 2020 12:23:30
To be fair Ed0025 your best player is 4 stone in weight 😉.

{Ed025's Note - but bernard has inner strength jimmy, minamino looks like he needs a good pan of scouse down him mate.. :)


8.) 25 Jan 2020 13:32:09
ed025 he could prove you wrong like all the everton signing you thought where good lol.

{Ed025's Note - my track record is not very good grino i agree, unfortunately my heart rules my head when it comes to everton mate..


9.) 25 Jan 2020 14:24:31
Ed025 are you say that Henderson has proved you wrong😱.

{Ed025's Note - im becoming a big fan of his lately barry, i always thought he was a bit of a turkey with all that sideways and backward passing he used to do, but fair play to him mate he has stepped up his game and has become very important to the team..


10.) 25 Jan 2020 15:56:36
Ed25, and you drew that conclusion from watching his debut? I know patience is alien to you BUT try it sometimes. It works. FYI, Minamino was not lightweight when he played LFC in the CL this season cos he caused us a bunch of probs in both games so don't know where you got this "lightweight" notion from esp. since that Wolves game was his first game in the PL.

Also clearly, he is not fit cos he has not played football for a while before joining us so he will need time to get up to speed. IMO, we will not see the best of "Mino" till next season when he has had a full preseason with us.

{Ed025's Note - i have seen him play quite a few games actually and as i stated its just an opinion..


11.) 25 Jan 2020 16:16:46
Ed25, no problem with that. We will see what happens.


12.) 25 Jan 2020 18:46:19
At least you can admit you was wrong Ed! I lambasted you about Fabinho and I’d say he’s the worlds best cdm on current form.

{Ed025's Note - hes been excellent lerchy...but lets not go overboard mate..


13.) 25 Jan 2020 18:58:18
Name me better in his position. And please not Andre Gomes!

{Ed025's Note - kante...by a squillion miles..


14.) 25 Jan 2020 21:48:34
I’d say kante is more box to box but I’ll let you have it. It’s not fair winning everything all the time.

{Ed025's Note - how magnanamous of you lerchy.. :)


15.) 25 Jan 2020 23:46:48
He'll be fine for us, taki. Yossi was slight but brilliant. I see no reason why he can't emulate the isreali.


16.) 26 Jan 2020 02:28:51
Kante isn’t a DM, Ed025. Superb player, but not the right example to compare to Fabinho.
Kante is also not as good as he was at Leicester and his first two seasons at Chelsea, where he genuinely was one of the best midfielders in the world.

{Ed025's Note - still is imo lowel..


17.) 26 Jan 2020 08:48:20
Kante is not a DM and never has been so comparing him to Fab (a true DM) lacks logic cos even at Chelsea, he is NOT the DM there. Jorginho is. Kante plays the Box to Box role there now.

{Ed001's Note - I don't see any comparison with the two. Fabinho is more of a playmaker who sits deep, like a good Jorginho. Kante is all about energy and mobility, though he has been shackled to the right side and wasted over the last few years. He is certainly not a defensive mid. It is my pet hate the way moronic pundits always talk about him as one.}


 

 

19 Jan 2020 11:21:13
Hi

Just posting to say I've had to sell my seat back for today's game as I'm sick. So if anyone is interested I've just sold back at 11.21.

Good luck.

Jonesred

1.) 19 Jan 2020 15:00:59
Hope we win to help you get better quicker Jones!


 

 

17 Jun 2019 09:04:35
Reportedly we have bid £40 million for Fernandes not saying true just what I've read so could be bull.

Jonesred

1.) 17 Jun 2019 11:50:41
we've bid for

nicolas pepe

bruno fernandes

nabil fekir

timo werner

matthius de ligt

just made up stories for click bait. if we signed all them what a full squad we would have tho.


2.) 17 Jun 2019 14:24:50
Rumour has it we’ve put in a €15m bid for Simao.


3.) 17 Jun 2019 16:09:34
That never gets old, TSR. Love it.


 

 

11 Jun 2019 12:58:46
Just out of curiosity what midfielder from the below would be the preferred choice. Possible any of them could sign but who would be the one you would choose.

Fekir.
Van Der Beek.
Fernandes.
Pépé.

Although all seem great players I think I'd still prefer Fekir.

Jonesred

1.) 11 Jun 2019 13:26:17
Fekir offers more goals and assists combined I think. Van der beek is more of a Lampard type player arriving in the box late to get on the end of things. Fernandes is more the coutinho type of creative player pepe is a goalscorer so if go fekir personally.


2.) 11 Jun 2019 13:41:21
I don't see the need for the high rating on Van der Beek. He's an okay winger and that's about it. Just because his team did surprisingly well this year, media is jumping on the bandwagon of declaring him a star.


3.) 11 Jun 2019 13:49:54
Pepe, he is going to be special.


4.) 11 Jun 2019 14:03:48
Yeah I'm not convinced on van de beek either. Was the advanced midfielder in a team who scored crazy number of goals. He doesn't look much better than klaasen did in an ajax shirt. Fekir with only a year left on his contract would certainly represent the best value.


5.) 11 Jun 2019 14:13:53
Pepe is not worth the price. He's too one footed and doesn't contribute enough out of possession. Very good forward but not €80m good.

Van Der Beek is riding the crest of wave. Think Davy Klaassen. He's massively over rated and simply not good enough.

Fernandes I've only seen a few times but he looks fantastic. Maybe a bit lightweight but players can adapt

Fekir is everything we are missing, with a dodgy knee. I'd take the risk personally. I think he's worth it. Creativity and goals from midfield without compromising on work rate.


6.) 11 Jun 2019 14:34:58
Van de Beek is not a winger.


7.) 11 Jun 2019 14:35:58
Fekir.


8.) 11 Jun 2019 16:18:22
Surely Lyon would have to accept 30 million or so this summer instead of meeting him run out his contract. Surely be a no brainer, another season without his knee showing major issues, for the same money Wilson and Kent will make, and most likely similar wages and fees that sturridge was robbing us, we'd get a player in mid 20s with a giant step up in ability. He doesn't seem to be as hot a property this summer and can't think of many clubs superior to Lyon who would offer him guarantee star role. Looks shrewd business to me. Unless his knee was deemed a complete NO by our doctors, or if there's any ill feeling left over from last summer on his behalf. Lyon squad over the season has seen the likes of dembele, cornet, depay, aouor, prove their worth. Fekir wouldn't be as big a loss for them either.


9.) 11 Jun 2019 17:35:40
disagree red92, his contribution could be worth a lot of money if he can stay and get them into the champions league!


10.) 11 Jun 2019 17:45:37
4 very different players really. Fekir the only one really who can play wide and central. I wouldn't dream of spending 70 million on a player who's only just had his breakthrough year now in a weaker league. The likes of gervinho, Ben arfa, malouda, cabella, thauvin, chamakh, Remy, lavezzi, James, lemar, toivennan, . None of them could ever make the step up after after just 1 year great year In ligue 1. Fekir has at least shown a few years of quality, like lacazette, moutinho, fabinho. For 70 million I'd want to be getting a son, sane, dybala or a Saul. Not a gamble. Proven ability shown at the highest level over a few years at that age.


11.) 11 Jun 2019 18:54:50
Spot on, Har_red92. Fekir is proven in the French Ligue for the past 5 years at least even tho, Pepe is the real deal and Ed01 says we are interested in both. I would pick Fekir over Pepe for now, tho.


12.) 11 Jun 2019 23:54:05
I don't think any of them are great ATM but the potential is there. I don't know enough about them to make a call. Whoever the club chooses I support as they have signed some greats recently. It has been said Pepe won't come to rotate.


 

 

 

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02 Feb 2020 21:40:08
I’d love to see both Havertz and Martinelli of Arsenal sign (Unlikely I know) in the summer both really really good attacking players. Could end up losing both Shaqiri and Lallana in next window, so some incomings are inevitable.

I like Origi a lot but I think he’d like more games than he is getting plus, I think Martinelli would be an excellent fourth choice attacker who can play anywhere in front three and has years on his side.

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03 Jul 2019 21:49:18
Macca mentioned we were interested in Ceballos this time last year so maybe we could be back in, but to be fair probably click bait.

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21 Jun 2019 22:39:02
Could palace take him if Wan Bisaka leaves?

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13 Jun 2019 21:55:59
I’d say we could sign him, next best option for us after Brandt went to Dortmund. If he does come I think Lallana will go.

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12 Jun 2019 16:29:14
If he left we could possibly promote Hoever to 4th choice. Ideal opportunity for him to develop.

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18 Feb 2020 18:54:15
I wouldn’t prompt in unsettling Gomez at all, I think he’s a great player and can only get better and better.

I think we’re fine for full backs too with Hoever, Williams. So for me I’d be happy with Martinelli of Arsenal and Havertz of Leverkusen. I’d be more than happy with this two. I also don’t think it would mean losing Firmino or Wijnaldum as these two would replace Origi and Lallana or Shaqiri.

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17 Feb 2020 20:37:23
Isn’t Anelka another.

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11 Feb 2020 10:11:11
Although he’s had a few more games this season I wouldn’t say he’s first choice at Arsenal yet. There’s still Aubamayang and Lacazette ahead of him when both fit, and they have the other youngster Saka is it?

Not sure how long he has on contract either, but I’d say he would play more than Origi does for us. He’d be potentially leaving a club in transition with no guarantee of CL football to join the current World, European, Super Cup champions and potentially title holders at end of season and also playing for one of the top managers in world football. Personally I think he’d be interested, so an enquiry would be worth the effort.

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24 Jan 2020 07:43:29
I think Robbo will be rested for next game, so expecting Larouchi to start in cup game.

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19 Jan 2020 20:02:10
League titles are league titles imo Ed.

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