14 Aug 2023 11:10:26
Eds do you know what Lavia's personal preference right now is? And will Chelsea outbid that 60 million offer if there is any?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are confident the player wishes to join them.}

1.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:33:21
So we screwed right again except if Lavia and his agents did not do what Caicedo did and just made the other club they wanted in the beginning pay more. But I suppose that all that saga left a taste of bitterness in Lavia

Thank you for your information.

2.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:36:23
You can only laugh.
We are an absolute mess.
Started so well as well with Mac and Dom.
As I said before we won’t get anyone in.

3.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:37:28
If Chelsea get Lavia too we really will look like a laughing stock. They on the other hand will have the best midfield arguably in world football perhaps other that Madrid.

4.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:47:22
You would have to assume though that by Liverpool making this new offer that we would also be confident that the player wishes to join.

5.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:47:27
Please explain what we are a mess. There's not a lot we can do if clubs are prepared to pay ridiculous amounts of money in salaries and transfer fees. There is not way that Lavia and Caceido are worth £170m between them with about 70PL games played. Stop with the faux embarrassment it's, erm, embarrassing.

6.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:49:29
Love the optimism.

7.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 11:57:10
Spot on johnnyr1970.

8.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:00:28
£60m sounds ridiculous.

9.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:00:57
Agreed jonny.

10.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:05:00
I won’t lose any sleep over Lavia if he goes to Chelsea.

Move on …. let’s see who we get.

Silver lining is we have been instrumental in Chelsea paying well over the odds for a couple of players…. We got McAllister for the amount they overspent!

11.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:05:57
So many trolls in the comments on this thread. Go back to the United or City pages where you came from. How is it a mess? Liverpool were told MC wanted to join, they bid, he changed his mind, not their issue. RL was not valued at 50 mil by the club but due to MC changing his mind they have had to pay more to get a player to fill the DM position. If he goes to Chelsea so be it. We will get two more in before the window shuts.

12.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:08:12
@johnnyr1970, is Liverpool an European Royalty? Yes or No.

If yes, Is low balling and submitting 4 or 5 bids an accepted behaviour of an European Royalty? Yes or No.

13.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:08:31
Chelsea are blowing everyone out of the water with their 8 year deals for these young kids.

I hope the agent has the kid's best interest at heart. Ahem.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are not the only club to offer long contracts to youngsters - Liverpool do it as well.}

14.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:12:11
I mean regardless of what you think, this can not be viewed as anything but a mess now. I'm not sold on lavia, and caciedo wanted chelsea so it is what it is, but realistically what took this so long when we knew hendo and fabs were leaving.

15.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:18:46
How isn’t it a mess? We messed Southampton around and lowballed them, messed Lavia around and dropped interest in him for Caicedo only to be told by Caicedo he had absolutely zero interest in joining us and never has had. Which basic due diligence would have established. Then to lose out on Caicedo and go back cap in hand to Southampton offering £14m more than we’d offered previously with the player noe feeling somewhat annoyed by our antics and apparently deciding he wants nothing to do with us. To me that’s a heady combination of incompetence, negligence and stupidity.

16.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:19:15
Could this be the season when a number of our youth players really step up? Elliot looked excellent yesterday, whilst bradley and doak are top prospects.
Money can't always win over, surely.

17.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:21:39
If we paid the 50 million they were asking for we would have wrapped the transfer up a week ago.
Let's hope clubs are still willing to sell quality defensive midfielders with two weeks of the window left.
As i said a week ago, each day that passes it will get increasingly harder to convince clubs to sell us their player's, as they will want to get a replacement in.

18.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:29:21
Completely agree with you Victor, for want of a better word it's a sh#tshow.

19.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:31:33
Yeah, totally normal business. Nothing to see here. Move on. We all live in Boehly's world now.

20.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:31:44
Unfortunately monkey it almost always does, big money spent wins leagues, the only anomaly in recent times being Leicester.

21.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:35:56
I see the word 'lowballing' is out again. And once again I remind people of the word 'negotiation'. Football is a massive business, running a club requires adult/ sensible/ prudent business and financial decisions. Let's stop with the childish 'lowballing' nonsense, if we can save a few millions when buying these players then it can basically pay their wages for a couple of years - we need to move on from this stuff, especially as none of us is in the room for these conversations (and nor is Romano with his minute by minute updates on Twitter) .

22.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:59:32
Ed02, if Chelsea are confident he wants to join them, why do you feel LFC have bid again? Surely they would want to avoid another embarrassing situation and just walk away?

{Ed002's Note - That is why clubs need to sell their project to the player. Newcastle have had a muber of offers accepted for players but have been unable to convince the players to join them.}

23.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 12:59:33
@johnnyr

Thank you for summarising the voice of a reasonable fan who supports his club.

I don’t need a load of trolls to tell me I should be embarrassed every 5 minutes on here. I’m not.

24.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 13:33:13
Leek - not the european royalty thing again. How many bids did Bayern and Chelsea take to secure their respective targets.

25.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 13:51:51
@Faithinworks, is bargaining like on Alibaba or flea market a classy behaviour of an aristocrat?

26.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 13:58:22
That is a very good point ED, about selling the project to the player. I think that was what convinced Van Dijk and Alisson to sign. What project are Liverpool offering to players right now? Difficult to say right? I don’t think the club has dealt with things in a way a club of Liverpools stature should, and I think we will see knock-on effects from that.

27.) 14 Aug 2023
14 Aug 2023 17:23:06
Sean,
I don't think Liverpool is in a worst position to sell a project right now than Chelsea. If you say the people are not doing a good job at it or the other team offers champions league football, I would understand but it's ridiculous to say Liverpool don't have a good project to sell.
But I agree with the fact the club didn't act according to the situation they are in from the beginning. They acted like business as usual, as if they have a winning squad and they are out there to complement it.