Liverpool Banter 2

04 Sep 2026 10:40:29
All this talk about Camara is interesting.... I won't believe anything till it comes from the fellas own mouth..... cause the Camara never lies.

{Ed025's Note - nice one Robby..

04 Sep 2026 11:23:57
It does add 5 kilos though.

{Ed025's Note - Harvey Elliot must have been photographed a lot of times over the summer then Taurus.. :)

04 Sep 2026 11:34:57
Elliott was following the comedian’s phrase “what would Molby do” and took it literally, so ate a lot.

04 Sep 2026 11:35:35
Ouch ed025!

{Ed025's Note - as they say on "catchphrase" Avit...say what you see.. :)

04 Sep 2026 11:40:23
Seems so, he definitely had a photoshoot Ed025, not a swimsuit one mind.

{Ed025's Note - as by bird would say Taurus.... i think the clothes he bought may have been American sizes mate.. :)

04 Sep 2026 12:14:35
Poor Harvey... everywhere the lad sits, he's next to ya.

04 Sep 2026 12:05:04
True Ed025, at least we can be positive and say there is now literally more of him to love.

{Ed025's Note - aint there just Taurus.. :)

04 Sep 2026 09:57:57
{Ed's Note - MK Scouser has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool Summer Review

04 Sep 2026 10:13:33
Good read MK.

04 Sep 2026 10:17:35
Good read, MK.

I think the players we brought in are good players this summer and needed ones.

We needed pace in the forward line and Munoz/Barcola absolutely give us that.
Jacquet looks a very exciting young talent and I look forward to seeing him grow.
Araujo, if he stays fit, will be a very useful squad option and the loan is minimal financial risk. Injuries still worry me with him.

Would certainly have wanted more but we failed massively with sales and we simply didn't have the room to do it.



We are left with a squad with some holes and balance issues but all in all, the squad is extremely talented.

It is now simply a case of coaching from here now to the next windows. Holes can also be plugged with good coaching and players adapting to different roles. I still expect improvement over the coming months based on how good I believe our coach is.

04 Sep 2026 10:18:47
Great post MK. Koumas and Nyoni will shine. Iraola's biggest test is the 5 games now before the break. A lot of opportunities for the players to prove themselves.

04 Sep 2026 10:21:48
Excellent article, MK. Thanks for taking the time to do it.

04 Sep 2026 11:46:41
Bravo, MKS. One of the better essays I have read on this forum, period. Nuanced, full of perspectives and a very good comparison of the pros and cons of the summer transfer season in general.

At this point, we have to show confidence and patience with Doni, at this point. We have no other option.

We think he can be great and even tho the TW wasn't ideal, we still got some very good players he can work with, for real.

It's gonna be a bumpy ride with ups and downs early on but if we all stay the course and keep our eyes on the prize and remain focused, who knows?

04 Sep 2026 12:02:24
Thanks for reading and feedback, everyone!

04 Sep 2026 12:10:14
Cheers, MK. Agree with most of it, and it's important to clarify that the excellent youth recruitment seems to be attributed to Newbury, Marques et al rather than Dickie.

Like you, I am stoked about Ndukwe, Ndiaye, Brughmans, Nyoni, Rio, Abe as well as choosing to keep local lads Koumas, Chambers and Danns around this season.

I would disagree on the Szobo deal. I do not think that is a massive achievement. He's a great dead-ball guy and runs around a lot, but needs to be much better than he is with the ball at his feet in open play and improve his game awareness. Would be good if he didn't shirk tackles too. We shall see if Iraola can improve him. Exactly the same feeling about Gravenberch, by the way.



Macca, Endo and Chiesa should have been informed by the club that they should seek moves elsewhere in May instead of hoping for interest at the end of the window. All three will now run their deals down to the end. Them not being moved on cannot be used as an excuse for not being able to fix the glaring issues.

In general, the club admitted (through press briefings) that they misjudged the Premier League moving toward this even more physical, set-piece-oriented game last season. Yet, we go into another season with short fullbacks and soft lads (Grav, Szobo, Macca) who think they are too good to compete for second balls in the middle of the park. For this reason alone, the window was a failure.

04 Sep 2026 12:39:41
Great article, Adam, as expected from you!

I agree with a lot of what you say, but have some different views on some of it.

RW - I would score this a 5 or 6/10 at best right now. Barcola and Munoz are great signings, for different reasons, and they may prove me wrong. But we should have signed someone who is a dedicated RW and has experience to prove that. Semenyo was a big miss in Jan, but I hope that this Jan we can get Minteh.



GK - It's great we have the youngster, but I fear what happens if (when?) Alisson gets injured. I don't trust Mamar, Woodman is solid but not spectacular and Jaros's recovery is unknown. I would have been more comfortable if Brughmans was here rather than on loan.

RB - Definitely a miss, as you say. I'm intrigued with the selection of Mabaya in the squad - I wonder if AI could unearth a gem there?

04 Sep 2026 09:45:27
Thankfully Endo and Chiesa left out of Champions League squad. Players who don't have the desire to play regularly shouldn't be rewarded by being in competition and match day squads.
Both players gave it a fair shot trying to get a first team spot but haven't been good enough unfortunately. Don't really understand why they didn't push for a move as other teams are interested and I can see both of them getting starting spots in an Italian or German team.

Best of luck to both but to be a successful club we can't hold onto players like these.
Pity Tsimikas wasn't left out as well as the guy just seems to be hanging on so he can leave on a free. Surely has to be moved on in January or even his contract paid out early. Wasn't good enough under Klopp so I can't understand why he's still here.

04 Sep 2026 09:53:58
Endo has recently come back from a big injury, especially for his age. He's Japan's captain, so can't be that bad a player and was trusted by Jurgen. He's got one year left of his deal, so can help when needed. Chiesa, the club should have let go. They had loan deals and even to buy, but only a small fee, so they decided no.

04 Sep 2026 09:56:28
They are both in the squad for the Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup.

The Champions League just has slightly stricter rules.

04 Sep 2026 09:58:09
Now why would we leave our left back cover out of the squad... Who was it that was going to take the place?

Tsimikas is not running down his contract for a free move, he loves Liverpool and has never wanted to leave.

04 Sep 2026 09:58:40
I wouldn’t say they don’t have the desire, just not good enough. You make it sound as if they are freeloading, which in reality I’m pretty sure they would certainly want to play and be involved. Like I said, just not good enough.

04 Sep 2026 10:51:23
Tsimikas is a good player, ok, he lacks a yard in pace, but his all round play is good, his positional play in attack mode is much better than Kerkez. And he can cross a ball! I don't really get the hate words against him.

In the same way I didn't really get the past rhetoric with Gakpo, much of which I suspect has had him questioning whether he wants to stay at the club.

He is our best chance of scoring a goal these days. It was interesting to see the love for him when there was a chance he might leave and what that would mean to our frontline. Peace!

04 Sep 2026 11:03:39
All 4 not good enough. Why do people accept mediocrity? Every single one of those players you’ve named has had ample opportunities and been found unable to consistently reach the required standard. Ship all 4 in January.

04 Sep 2026 11:50:35
"Players who don't have the desire to play regularly shouldn't be rewarded by being in competition and match day squads.".

Sorry @Mayo, but this is nonsense and potentially character assassination. You may not rate them as players and that's okay but for you to go from there to then, make the above quote is bang out of order.

How many times has Endo played his heart out for LFC to the point of playing the game of his life in that EFL final at Wembley while carrying a knock and bodying Caicedo, all at the same time.

And Chiesa when he has played has always show fight, desire and eagerness to do well despite almost never getting starts. Pathetic.

04 Sep 2026 11:55:09
Oh and Viva Redspana, I fully agree with all you said about Tsimikas.

Oh, and let's not forget that the Gakpo family suffered a huge tragedy, losing their child, which is a more than harrowing experience and one I personally can relate to cos my sister lost her son, as well.

It almost never gets better.

So considering the above, in addition to all the (unwanted) hate he was getting, maybe Cody was thinking of going somewhere else as a life decision for him and his fam, not just about football.

04 Sep 2026 13:36:49
Why keep a left back who is very poor defensively? His crosses are hit and miss so I wouldn’t be keeping him around for that. If Kerkez doesn’t improve this season then serious thought will have to be given to replacing him next summer. I don’t get why some people are happy to keep certain players just to sit on the bench and contribute very little towards the team. They always get chances in cup games and never stand out enough to put them in contention to regularly start in Premier League games.
If the backup player isn’t pushing the starting players week in, week out, then they shouldn’t be in the squad.
Give that game time to younger players to gain experience.

Luke Chambers and Luke Stephenson both should be given more chances, but unfortunately Stephenson was loaned out. I’m looking forward to seeing McConnell getting a chance.
If you did your research @Olired you would have seen Endo was involved in preseason and was told he could find another club along with Chiesa. Andoni must have seen enough of both to let them know they’re not in his future plans.
Gakpo has shown on plenty of occasions his importance to the team. He’s rarely injured and started the season very well. The other 3 have not, so I don’t know why he was mentioned.

04 Sep 2026 15:08:23
Mayo, that Endo was asked to leave does not automatically mean he lacks the desire to play for us. That was the part of your comment that I addressed as pathetic. End of.

04 Sep 2026 15:52:25
Olired, so sitting on the bench and playing the odd cup games with a few minutes here and there in the Premier League shows desire to you? Give your head a wobble mate.
He's plenty good enough to start for a club in Germany, Italy, France and Spain.
He's not good enough to be a starter or on the Liverpool bench. Of he was told to stay and fight for his place fair enough but it's a red flag not wanting to leave when told he won't play much of a part.


We're pretty much turning into Man United by holding on to players not good enough and not being able to sell. 3/4 players that wouldn't move on cost us a big chance to strengthen the squad this summer.
City sold Reinders and Gonzalez to improve and compete for trophies while we hold onto a player that you said 'bodied Caicedo' in one game 3 years ago 🤣

04 Sep 2026 09:13:07
Hello Edoo1,
Look time. Please provide a quick review of our new team and new coach for this new season, what with the fact we didn't sign a specialist right wing, or DM or an experienced CB.

{Ed001's Note - I will be doing a review of the transfer window mate. Though you can watch the pod we just did for a quick overview, Mr Leggett kindly provided a time stamp for all the different clubs in the comments, so you can just skip through to the Liverpool bit if you like. Actually I will link it up again now so you can find it easily.}

04 Sep 2026 09:26:28
Araujo?

04 Sep 2026 09:39:09
I just sent in a rather large post on something similar to this Ed001, so I'd be very keen to watch the Podcast you've mentioned and see where we agree/disagree! Pop the link up when you can.

04 Sep 2026 11:56:47
Im a podcast junkie at this point, Ed.

Don't leave me hanging now, mate.

Pop the link in as soon as ready.

Cheers, mate.

04 Sep 2026 08:33:42
Hi ed033, could we have a poll please if you have time?

Will Liverpool's season be successful?

Yes
No idea
No

Many thanks.

{Ed033's Note -


Season poll

04 Sep 2026 09:14:21
I say no because without winning one of the big two this club should never find that successful.
But I do think in a month or so we will pick up more and build on that as the season goes.
Hopefully maybe a couple of incomings and outgoings in January, then a good window next summer, and next season we will compete again.

04 Sep 2026 09:18:26
Depends on what your measure of success is in fairness.

04 Sep 2026 09:23:26
Liverpool will finish third, win the FA Cup and reach the Champions League semi-finals.

04 Sep 2026 09:28:16
I fancy a title push. None of the others really impress me. I think it’s wide open.

04 Sep 2026 09:34:09
I am positive about this season. I think as AI gets his message to the players in training, we will see improvements in the style of football. I believe the squad AI has is better than some doom merchants will have you believe. But as always, injuries can derail a season.

04 Sep 2026 09:43:21
Come Christmas I think we will be ok, but we need Ekitike back or will have to play Cody as striker. Can’t see Isak not being out injured.

04 Sep 2026 11:31:43
Isak will get injured.
Cody wants out and will push again for Jan, but because of Ekitike it will likely be next summer.
Danns is not good enough and made of crisps.
Ekitike won’t recover by Christmas, so I would say it’s likely to be around March or April before he is anywhere near prem ready.
Should have tried for Marmoush. He is wasted at Spurs.

04 Sep 2026 11:58:13
Wow, Shughes. What bee got in your bonnet today?

04 Sep 2026 07:57:48
All Ed's and reds

I agree with the view it's time for us all to get behind the Manager and the team. Like Ed001 I'm chuffed and excited we got AI I really think he's going to be the next LFC great.

I am still fuming with the club though, I want STC replaced with a seriously good DOF that is decisive and won't make us a laughing stock.

I'm fed up with the way we all expected areas of the squad to be strengthened and to be left so short that even (rat boy) Gary Neville makes comment. It's infuriating!

Anyway we have a few months to get sorted now. Get the squad fit, get rid of Hughes, i'd targets for the next 2 windows. Then push on.

Time and again I said on here SLOT Was undoing 10 years of progress made by Klopp. I hope it has stopped. Now the only way is up.


Come on you mighty Reds!

I'll take a 1-0 win tonite.

04 Sep 2026 08:35:14
It's Ipswich. Surely it's more than that, but then again I don't want to sound too ungrateful. A win's a win. I hope BB29 gets some minutes and we keep a clean sheet.

Wishful thinking for that last one tho

04 Sep 2026 08:51:29
Just get the 3 points tonight and get our season going.

04 Sep 2026 08:52:07
Any win away from home is well earned in the PL these days.

04 Sep 2026 09:17:03
Why are we a laughing stock Chrisy? We prioritised wingers this summer and got 2 very good ones in. One of them is arguably the best out and out winger in world football. We wanted another but we missed out and that can happen as we have seen with numerous other clubs.

We finally sorted the CB situation too.

Jacquet and Araujo both look good signings and Leoni is due back soon.

The only other positions people say we need are fullbacks and a DM. We bought 2 fullbacks a year ago was does it really make sense to replace them after the whole team was poor last season and they've struggled in a new system with new players in the first 2 games?

Iraola doesn't play with a DM (as most good coaches don't these days) so it wasn't a priority. We have a midfield who we know can be effective together as they were just over a year ago and we can now give game time to Nyoni who we've all wanted to kick on for the last 2 years.

I think we are in good shape. It could be better but a squad is never really perfect and never really complete. It's the same with all teams.

I think of the title hopefuls, Arsenal have had the worst window. They needed to strengthen their attack and actually weakened it. They were rejected by Vini Jr, Barcola and Alvarez and sold their entire left side. They replaced 2 players with Tzolis who's not a bad player but is certainly no better than what they already had.

Now the window is shut it's game on 💪

04 Sep 2026 09:34:38
Richardsstepover is working hard.

We’ve got a lopsided squad and success will depend on the new coach overperforming while putting square pegs in round holes.

CL qualification is the best we can hope for this season, which is rather embarrassing with 700m spent.

04 Sep 2026 10:04:57
We're not a laughing stock.
And Slot didn't undo the work done by Klopp.
Slot won the League with Klopp's team and he was only there for two seasons.

If anyone is embarrassed by their team qualifying for the CL, then I don't think football, and the tribalism and banter that goes with it, is the sport for you.


You need a thicker skin than that. I often chat, in real life 😂, with fans of our rivals for CL qualification and I don't get embarrassed.
Well, not for a long, long time anyway.

04 Sep 2026 10:41:51
Most successful club in English football history = Laughing stock.

Christ on a bike, tad dramatic, don't ya think?

I dread to think how some of our posters would survive if they supported another team - there are literally millions of fans who would chop an arm off for their team to be where we are right now.

I get people want to see success, but even as good as we've been, we've won the top league 20 times in over 100 years.

It's hard. It doesn't always feel great. It's bloody football; that's why we love it. We will compete, yet we may fall short. That doesn't make us a laughing stock; it makes us just like every other football team on the planet. No team is perfect. No team has a right to succeed.

{Ed025's Note - good post that CH..

04 Sep 2026 11:23:16
Amazing how words trigger people.

We could always say the club, despite being sufficiently resourced and making its best efforts, has failed to increase the probability of winning the major honours. We now all hope that the inexperienced but talented coach will overperform with the tools he has.

This is a tad disappointing for some fans who would like to have seen a concerted effort to make the club a title challenger again given the resources at their disposal.

Does that make you guys feel better?

04 Sep 2026 12:06:55
With you there, @stradarosso. Just get the win cos Iraola and this team needs it badly at this point to boost confidence.

04 Sep 2026 14:28:05
If you think someone disagreeing with you is being triggered, then you might need to try again, Pelican. 😂
It's the interweb, mate. We use words to communicate and we won't always agree.
It's not a big deal though. 😉

04 Sep 2026 06:22:37
I have spent years reading this site from the edges, familiar with the names and voices long before any of them knew mine. Perhaps that is why, having finally stepped out of the shadows and into the conversation, I find myself thinking about what makes a place like this worth returning to.

It is not simply the information. It is the willingness of people to offer something of themselves to the room.

And lately, I have wondered whether we are becoming too careless with that.

There is a strange irony in watching people chase away the very thing they come here to find.

This is, after all, a rumours site. Its value has never been certainty. Certainty arrives with the photograph, the shirt and the lean.

What makes this place different is everything that comes before it. The whispers, the fragments, the people willing to share what they have heard and allow the rest of us a small glimpse behind the curtain.

Some will be right. Some will be wrong. Circumstances change, deals disappear and information ages quickly. That is the nature of a rumour.

Scepticism is healthy. Disagreement is part of any good community. But there is a difference between questioning information and making somebody regret sharing it.

Perhaps we occasionally forget that every post leaves something behind. It can add humour, knowledge, curiosity and conversation, or it can make the room a little less welcoming for the next person who has something worth saying.

A community eventually becomes what it encourages, but also what it drives away.

If the people with something interesting to share decide silence is easier, we may win the argument and lose the very thing that brought us here.

A rumours site without rumours is just another place to argue about football.

Tomorrow though, at kick off, the arguments can wait.

Come on you Reds.

YNWA
RedP

04 Sep 2026 08:54:29
All fair points as long as it’s done in a respectful manner and without either rage baiting or lying simply to get attention as that adds no value at all.

04 Sep 2026 10:10:35
Good post, that, RedP.
I read it in David Attenborough's voice 🙂.
Keep them coming, mate.

{Ed025's Note - love it Rigsby..

04 Sep 2026 12:09:03
Wow, RedPerspective8. Ever thought of running for the U.S. Congress?

You have a gift, my friend.

04 Sep 2026 00:59:44
Ed025
Your a betting man we had some good craic about that last season
I predicted 2-2 first game and 1-1 last week so I'm 1 out of 2
Tonight I'm going 3-2 Liverpool or 2-2 again Wirtz anytime
What's your thoughts, will ya be watching?

{Ed025's Note - i will be watching Hughesy, i have gone for 4-0 for the reds but im yet to decide on the last part of my bet builder mate, it will be either Wirtz or Barcola to assist and over 8 corners in the game..

04 Sep 2026 06:56:08
Liverpool to win 3-1 and Isak to score first goal. 👌

04 Sep 2026 07:48:15
I’d go either way that Rover, we’ve struggled to keep clean sheets so far.

04 Sep 2026 08:55:18
2-1 Liverpool

04 Sep 2026 10:36:11
It’ll be a cricket score as Iraola’s Reds career truly gets started.

04 Sep 2026 08:33:56
Ed25, I just need a win, mate. The score? Not bothered at all at this point.

{Ed025's Note - i think most feel that way Oli, i just like the thrill of putting a bet on the score and pitting my wits against the bookies mate, i have to get rid of my money before i kick the bucket or it will all get left to my Liverpool supporting kids.. :)

04 Sep 2026 09:34:02
You see us keeping a cleen sheet ed? that's surprising. 😅

{Ed025's Note - Ipswich are not up to much ASB and they will go all defensive hoping not to get mullered by the reds mate...but it wont work..

04 Sep 2026 11:39:20
Nice one 025. I’m impressed with the 4-0 scoreline.
Good to hear your kids are the brains of the family like.
I will be honest, I think Barcola won’t start tonight hence why I went with Wirtz.
Was tempted to go Szobo but he could be our RB tonight.

{Ed025's Note - i think Barcola will start myself Hughesy, my scorer prediction would be Isak, Wirtz and Barcola and Jacquet as an outsider mate..

04 Sep 2026 12:10:13
"I have to get rid of my money before I kick the bucket or it will all get left to my Liverpool supporting kids. ".

And we most definitely can't be having that, lol.

{Ed025's Note - absolutely Oli, they will spend it on season tickets, merchandise and trips to Europe mate, you have enough entitled supporters without those 2 adding to it.. :)

04 Sep 2026 03:07:36
Saw Jones debut for Inter via YouTube. Lad looks like a fish in the pond. 30-35mil seems cheap suddenly. Should've sold him for 70mil.

Well, early days. Impressions and new environment. But he does look comfy in the Italian league, much to his strength.

{Ed666's Note - he has a lot of time on the ball which suits his game

04 Sep 2026 05:55:47
He had one year left on his contract, is a bit part player for us, wanted out, and was causing a disturbance in the dressing room and on the pitch. I think it's good enough that we managed to sell him instead of him going out on loan like Ramsay or Elliott actually.

Serie A suits him better since it's much slower and he can take all the time he wants to release the ball.

04 Sep 2026 08:37:58
That is true, Ed666. I think it was time for him to go. Been in the first team for 6 years and simply has not progressed to the level many of us thought he could.

Imagine saying in 2022 that, "If Curtis would release the ball in critical times a lot quicker, he would be so good". And imaging saying that in 2026. That's all you need to know. He had to go, on/off the pitch stuff be damned.

{Ed666's Note - agreed mate on all counts mate