Liverpool banter 9
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31 Oct 2026 20:38:58
Just a bit of banter, but now Man United are currently in the relegation zone with palace currently drawing at spurs, could we have a poll on who we'd prefer to go down, United or city? π.
{Ed033's Note -
United Or City poll
31 Oct 2026 21:04:27
I think a "Both" option would get all the votes π.
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31 Oct 2026 22:34:23
Both, and Chelsea.
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31 Oct 2026 23:17:51
As much as I loathe United, they haven't cheated. City deserve relegation, United would just be funny.
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{Ed666's Note - United going down would be the best day of my lifeβ¦
31 Oct 2026 23:18:43
Both plus Crystal Palace so I don't have to sit through any more of those drab 0-0 draws that they seem to be involved in on every single Monday Night Football.
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31 Oct 2026 23:03:45
It's a bit like the good old non-pc days that one. It went along the lines of, if you had a gun with one bullet, who would you shoot Thatcher or Reagan. The answer, of course, is to stand Reagan behind Thatcher and use a very big gun.
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01 Nov 2026 00:34:10
I remember the last time United were relegated ('74) and the irony of Dennis Law scoring the goal, for Man City, that guaranteed they'd be relegated.
Agree5
01 Nov 2026 07:34:58
Manchester derby in the championship next season would be delightful.
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01 Nov 2026 07:40:09
Bin both n bin hard with a vengence.
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01 Nov 2026 08:37:06
Is the question : If ManU finished 18th but the PL wanted to relegate City, would you prefer ManU (18th) or City (cheats) to go down.
I think City, they have cheated. Both would have deserved to go down but ManU have a lot more ground to recover than City.
Personally I'd let 4 teams come up from the Championship and send them both down.
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01 Nov 2026 08:52:50
I hate that Liverpool fans have nothing better to talk about (like the press and so called news channels) than to constantly bring up man utd. Some of us come on here to try n get away from having to hear about them, every time you talk about them is an admission of how bigger a club they are compared to ours.
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01 Nov 2026 08:55:48
Big clubs wouldn't be in 17th.
Agree4
01 Nov 2026 09:05:24
I've seen enough, relegate Everton as well.
Agree5
01 Nov 2026 09:06:00
@Jimjim, genuine question - what do you mean by 'bigger' club?
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01 Nov 2026 09:24:50
When sky sports or talk sports justify why they constantly talk about man United they say cus they are the biggest team in England and that turns my stomach but when I come on here and Liverpool fans have nothing else to talk about you understand why they do it. Can't we please make this a man United free environment please.
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01 Nov 2026 10:15:13
"Nothing else" JimJim?
I read this website religiously way more than I dare admit.
It's pretty rare to talk about the Mancs. And when we do. it's for good reason. They are f&&&&*CCd.
Man Cheaters. When they scored against us I uttered the immortal words "F****** cheats". because that's all the deserve.
Whereas watching the other mancs nothing give me more pleasure than seeing their slot rot from the head.
So hell yeah let's talk about them. But if you really think they are bigger clubs then I don't know what to say to you. Maybe read more about Liverpool?
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01 Nov 2026 10:33:34
WDW, it's a popular misconception that Denis Law relegated United. Due to results elsewhere, United would have been relegated anyway; even if United had won that day.
Agree1
01 Nov 2026 10:50:19
I 100% would give up my week away with Liz Hurley to see United drop ππ.
Agree1
01 Nov 2026 11:22:09
Let's have a 'both' option.
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01 Nov 2026 11:23:13
Duffer I only want to read about Liverpool on here that's my point entirely π.
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01 Nov 2026 12:05:55
Well here is another post that mentions "they who shall not be named".MANCHESTER UNITED..
Its a football site. lets try not be so ignorant as to think we should only talk about us.
Maybe try not visiting those media websites if it makes you that unhappy.
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31 Oct 2026 18:20:11
Hi Ed's, just a quick question. Say we beat Arsenal tomorrow and continue going well and close to the top. Do you think this might make winter transfer window more important. If we are still in all 4 competitions in Jan, I personally think we should try and get a bit of business done, just to bolster the squad.
I know we don't normally shop in this window but it might make sense if we are doing well.
{Ed001's Note - I would expect it to make a difference, but that won't change the difficulty in recruiting top class players in the January window. It is mostly players that are not playing well or at all, that are looking to move in January. So you are taking a bigger risk or paying a premium usually to buy mid-season.}
31 Oct 2026 19:40:35
Still think camara will sign.
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31 Oct 2026 19:06:34
Any rumours on the new owners Ed001? Timing of that could determine January/Summer windows
They'll want to make a few statements that's for sure.
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{Ed001's Note - not that I know of. They will need to become full owners first. These sales can take a long time.
31 Oct 2026 21:45:18
If the sale does go through is there any plans or chance of increasing the stadium capacity?
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{Ed001's Note - there is plans for that anyway, FSG were trying to work with the council on renewing the infrastructure of the area to allow a larger capacity, as we are maxed out as things stand. And that is why they are looking to sell now, as it is going to be a long haul to get it done. Especially now it is not as easy as to drop a brown envelope on blue Joe's desk to get what you want.}
31 Oct 2026 22:14:45
Ecogsi2, this has been discussed many times. As it stands the stadium capacity has been maxed out. The only scope is to develop the Sir Kenny Stand, which would, in the first instance, entail the compulsory purchase of the properties immediately behind the stand.
In addition, to go above the current capacity would also entail a new train station being built to cope with transporting the additional supporters to and from the area. In brief, it's not going to happen any time soon.
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31 Oct 2026 23:09:25
Like you say @Rome, it's a wider issue for the community and the need to overhaul community infrastructure, not least in terms of transport. Until recently I would have thought it might not happen in my lifetime but with the possibility of the Bhatia consortium buying out FSG I think the possibility of redevelopment for the area might not be as far fetched.
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31 Oct 2026 23:23:24
Rome1997! - this is point. With nearly infinite cash and I would imagine a view to grow the "business" a circa 70000 capacity stadium and regeneration to the area is a no brainer. Not only for the owners but also for council to ride the cash injection?
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01 Nov 2026 07:06:16
Would the introduction of the glider buses mean that a new rail station wasn't the hurdle that it may have been in the past? I thought it was seen as a cheaper way around the mass transit ceiling imposed on Anfiels's capacity?
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01 Nov 2026 07:54:26
I think an area we are strong in is not over-reacting to the moment. Well, that was until the summer of '25 and we decided we'll live life to the max lol.
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01 Nov 2026 08:23:47
Interesting that any increase to capacity is predicated on improved transport links etc, yet such links seem to have been an afterthought for Everton's stadium?
Agree0
01 Nov 2026 09:08:32
Nah, @Avit, a lot of the lads canoe it to the Everton matches these days and a few of them swim across from Birkenhead.
Agree1
01 Nov 2026 08:43:35
Thanks Ed.
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{Ed001's Note - very welcome inbeta.}
31 Oct 2026 15:28:17
If results stay the same, win tomorrow and we're 3 points off the top π.
31 Oct 2026 16:21:57
I hope city will not be awarded the title this year even if they remain top on points after the end of 38 games. Surely, the appeal wouldn't drag on this long. So, I think the competition is with Arsenal.
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31 Oct 2026 16:54:04
A win tomorrow would be huge.
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31 Oct 2026 17:09:00
Always a good day when the Mancs and the Cheats lose, ain't it?
As for us, a win tmrw would be huge for us, the tam and the manager moving forward because that would validate all the good work and efforts all concerned have put in so far.
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31 Oct 2026 17:29:25
Brighton result last week was a great result given they have beat both city and Arsenal. Win is huge tomorrow I just hope we don't show too much respect. They are certainly beatable.
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31 Oct 2026 20:13:24
Despite our roaring start to last season we have the same number of points at this stage and we lost our 9th game.
Last season we were on an obvious downturn were as this season we're gaining momentum.
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31 Oct 2026 23:13:06
@LFCDas, the investigation covered the period 2913 to 2018. If they win the League this season there is no reason for them not to get the trophy - well at least until the 2019 - 2027 investigation starts π.
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01 Nov 2026 01:36:13
So they worked backwards from 2913 π³π³.
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01 Nov 2026 07:55:37
WDW - I'm sure their historic levels of cheating will still reap benefits from them in 2913 if the appeal wins.!
Agree0
01 Nov 2026 08:26:49
I think WDW knows more than he's letting on as to the date when the appeal will finish!
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01 Nov 2026 09:09:55
My real name is John Connor (said in Arnie's voice).
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31 Oct 2026 14:57:52
The BBC is reporting on its gossip pages that Barca are looking at Bastoni after previous attempts to lure him failed. I remember Ed01 lauding him as an excellent VVD replacement . How viable would he be for us if a move away from Inter is on the table?
{Ed001's Note - not at all as he is involved in a big scandal in Italy which explains why he never wanted to leave. It is well worth a google
31 Oct 2026 16:06:35
We'd have to be incredibly desperate and willing to court the ire of anybody with an ounce of moral fiber that supports the club if we brought him to Liverpool.
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31 Oct 2026 18:02:09
Agree Patrick, plus I think we are now reasonably well sorted on the centre back front. I'd hope we take the deal on Araujo as he looks like a good option.
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01 Nov 2026 01:38:02
Things outside of football to one side, Bastoni - in the 4 or 5 games I've watched him playing in the last couple of years - has been average at best.
Agree1
01 Nov 2026 07:56:24
Rekon our short - medium - long term future at CB is looking strong.
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31 Oct 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Brighton & Hove Albion - A Quick Liverpool Perspective
31 Oct 2026 09:20:08
Good read, thanks Ed001. π.
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{Ed001's Note - thanks Ronnie!
31 Oct 2026 09:20:14
Good read, thanks Ed001. π.
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{Ed001's Note - you really did like it huh! So good you said it twice
31 Oct 2026 10:06:01
Good reading. Good assessment. We're certainly improving albeit there's more to come! Bring on those Gunners I say! Thanks ED01. Much appreciated!
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{Ed001's Note - cheers SG.
31 Oct 2026 10:22:28
Great review Ed001. Agree with you on Isak, it's a bit strange to see him not move in attacking positions. Kerkez got in a good position for a cross and when he looked up Isak was on the edge of the box not moving. Can't fault that he seems to take his chance each game, but just wish he did more to make more chances.
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{Ed001's Note - I am hoping it is just fitness.
31 Oct 2026 11:54:31
Cheers Ed, spot on. What do you think of the more counterattacking style we played? I see you noted it suited the team better. Do you think it's something we'll see more of going forward or maybe just Iraolas way of neutralising teams that are capable of outrunning us?
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{Ed001's Note - it will be used when we have the lead I expect. So hopefully we will see it a lot!
31 Oct 2026 12:04:34
Cheers ed001. Can't disagree with any of that and like you said Isak movement is so different from his Newcastle time if isn't fitness issue it must be attitude which is not good.
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{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. It his attitude is wrong, he won't last long with us.
31 Oct 2026 12:11:19
Cheers ed001 nice read mate
You Reckon Brighton might struggle with the Thursday -Sunday mental toll it takes on the players? Even when they change the full line up we've seen teams struggle before.
Good team Brighton it was a good win.
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{Ed001's Note - it will take its toll I am sure. Xmas time will be tough after the extra games.
31 Oct 2026 12:41:16
Cheers Ed001. Good team Brighton and great result for any of the so called big teams to beat them.
Heard they are struggling in the conference league because they are such a great pressing and counter team that in Europe they get to dominate possession and look a little lost.
Arsenal home and then a trip to Turkey 3 days later is an exciting week for the club and fan base.
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{Ed001's Note - that makes sense except they have tended to get more possession in the Prem too.
31 Oct 2026 14:25:29
Thanks again Ed01.haha! Multiple appreciation response from me too ;)
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{Ed001's Note - it was a good win!
31 Oct 2026 15:27:13
Good read, thanks Ed001 π.
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{Ed001's Note - I feel like I have seen this post before...π€
31 Oct 2026 16:09:22
Finally somebody said it Ed, everybody on these pages was saying Gakpo was having a stinker when it was patently obvious to me that he was our best attacking player and a constant threat down that side, it was rather Isak who was making Cody look bad by not having the awareness or desire to get into better positions when the opportunity presented itself.
Isak is really worrying me with his movement, he looks so incredibly sluggish and passive off the ball sometimes, I thought he was back to his athletic self when he was playing in the world cup but he has looked off the pace again. Somehow he manages to score every game though.
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31 Oct 2026 18:48:38
Somehow unfortunately he keeps scoring.
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{Ed001's Note - it is not unfortunate, I am sure we all hope he continues to do so.}
31 Oct 2026 18:33:16
Seeing Brighton beat Citeh at home today only reinforced the points you made, Ed001, that Brighton came to play us as favorites for that game. It also underscore how well we played that we suffocated their attacks pretty much for 60 minutes or so.
We're not there yet but we're getting better one game at a time. Long may it continue!
Thanks for the excellent, review, 001. YNWA.
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{Ed001's Note - thank you Noski!}
31 Oct 2026 21:01:46
Awesome review. Thanks, Ed.
Hopefully we can play a similar game tomorrow, although for that we will probably need the first goal again.
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{Ed001's Note - hopefully we will get that, and the second.}
01 Nov 2026 07:10:12
Great review Ed.
Just wondering in your opinion when fit who do you think is better suited Isak or Ekitike?
Thanks for your hard work and hopefully 3 points today.
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{Ed001's Note - if Isak was back to his best, it would be him, he is one of the best strikers in the game when he plays as he can. But this current Isak is not that player, but then what kind of Ekitike will we get back? Hard to know and it is doubtful he will be any better initially. Neither are really suited to Iraola's style, neither are good at the work off the ball for the team that is required to get the best for the team as a whole. That is why Klopp passed up the opportunity to sign Isak. Brilliant player, but not really what we need. With Ekitike, he is younger so should be able to adapt his game to fit better. So long term we should be looking to him, I would suggest, if he recovers properly.}
01 Nov 2026 07:44:54
Good read, thanks Ed001 π.
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{Ed001's Note - thanks very much DP.}
01 Nov 2026 08:28:23
Thanks Ed001
Really appreciate your knowledge, who do you think would by ideally suited to our style?
Assuming we could offload one and sign another.
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{Ed001's Note - Alvarez would be the ideal, but he doesn't want to come back to the UK. That leaves players like Brobbey, Igor Thiago, Evanilson or even our very own Koumas as the ones best suited. The problem is they would not score as many goals. However, they may lead to the team as a whole playing better, creating more and scoring more, as well as conceding fewer with their work. To be a really top team in this modern era, you just can't get away with one player not working for the team. Even Haaland had to adapt his game to work harder for the team and it has made him an even better player now.}
01 Nov 2026 10:28:23
It was a strange game and had Brighton scored it would have been a very different game. I know stating the obvious. But we matched them, and for periods completely outplayed them. Once we were 2-0 up we soaked up the pressure.
Isak - such a strange one. He has that magic of being able to score a goal in a moment of brilliance. He scores goals otehrs can only dream of. Pure instinct. And yet the lack of touches, pressing and runs it can't be fitness. But what else can it be?
Grav - I'm still rooting for him, but he was great in his title season. But this season omg and it's such a shame as his ability to take the ball under pressure and push forward is great. But leaving Kerkez as he does, what's going on in his mind?
It always reminds me that any sport, especially elite, is all about mindset.
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01 Nov 2026 09:46:39
Thanks Ed001
Hopefully Koumas can become that player.
Have a great day.
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{Ed001's Note - very welcome.
31 Oct 2026 06:15:57
I suggest everyone at Anfield wears a Mickey Mouse mask on Sunday.
31 Oct 2026 13:48:17
Nah mate, this is not Disney after all π€£.
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30 Oct 2026 18:35:03
Can someone explain to me why Araujo isn't a quality RB? I don't care that CB is his natural position.
He has the presence of a CB in that position making him very strong aerially and physically. Something we previously lacked. This gets forgotten.
He's been defensively excellent so that's a bonus to what we've had. Then going forward he's assisted and has scored. Like what am I missing here? because it seems a few have Trent brain rot.
We don't have a full back that can ping the odd ball like de Bruyne. Well who does? There doesn't seem to be a yearning for a top LB yet Kerkez's delivery and final balls have been honestly dross.
Araujo has major positives offensively and defensively to his game so why do we still need a RB? also Bradley is returning who is top class when he's in form. Now if Bradley's injuries continues I'll understand the need for a RB because the club will look to move Bradley on at that stage.
But Araujo is currently quality for us. So I personally don't see the need for anyone else especially someone who's weak in a lot of areas to Araujo's game.
30 Oct 2026 19:57:35
Because we need a long term replacement for Virgil and Araujo could fit the bill there. Hence why the need for a right back as imo Bradley can't be relied on to be fit and who knows if he will be the same after such an injury. Frimpong for me just doesn't suit the PL so a right back is definitely needed.
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30 Oct 2026 20:16:54
To be honest, I feel that RB is the best position for Araujo. He is a little bit rash and being at RB helps him knowing he has help in Jacquet behind which he wouldn't have as a CB.
I will be in the minority but I feel he should stay a FB, and we get a left footed CB for the summer since I feel it will give LFC another dimesion having a left footed.
Now, while I say that prefer Araujo as a FB, that works better in the premier than in the champions league. Is not a surprise that he has been substituted in the CL as he was targeted.
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30 Oct 2026 20:27:26
100% agree Ron, he's the best rb in the league so far.
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30 Oct 2026 21:13:02
I think Araujo has done a fine job so far but for me in a team that would play the way I see football I would like someone better going forward. I see Araujo as a CB who's done a fine job on the side.
We all like Araujo but I think people are getting carried away. I've spent the last ten years watching Robbo and Trent. Thats the way I see fullbacks in a perfect world.
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30 Oct 2026 21:36:43
I'd rather Araujo than Arnold and it's not even close. Araujo can defend and gives 110%. Arnold can never be accused of doing either of those.
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30 Oct 2026 21:39:02
He's done a great job, and I'm happy for him to play there, but I do very much see him as a CB playing RB, he came off twice at halftime because he was getting exposed. He could be ideal for taking the reins from VVD when he moves on, Jaquet can play LCB, all depends on where Arajo see's his future tough, would love to sign him up, the passion and commitment he has is exactly what we're missing, I can't stress that enough.
I absolutely love to see it.
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30 Oct 2026 22:00:05
Do we need him at centre back to replace Van Dijk? I'd disagree. We have Jacquet playing really well there plus we have a returning Leoni, Gomez and Ndukwe. That's if big Virg doesn't extend.
Agree1
30 Oct 2026 22:10:38
Gomez should have been moved on years ago, literally no sense in keeping the lad except for sentiment. Please god no to a Trent return, great at attacking but awful defending.
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30 Oct 2026 22:12:59
I'm glad someone has raised this. Ronnie is potentially the perfect RB in AI's system. He has the attitude and commitment and he will more often than not be the 3rd defender when we break forward to help protect the goal. Does mean we need to get Kerkez firing and/or bring in another LB.
Even if we ended up paying the full price at Β£47m, I still think he is well worth the money as our starting RB, and can rotate to the middle when we need with Bradley coming in.
I agree we seem to have a really strong CB group in Jacquet, Leoni, Ndukwe and Ndiaye, and Araujo provides the experience that the quartet may currently lack (albeit they aren't showing it!)
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30 Oct 2026 22:33:53
I don't mean the Arnold of now Victor. But I do mean prime Trent and Robbo, Hakimi and Nunes. Thats the kind of football I want to see us at least TRY play. I like Araujo but not enough to make me change the whole way I see football.
Dont forget folks there's a lot of 6 foot 4 CB's that would dominate wingers half their size physically. I'd be kinda worried if they didn't.
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31 Oct 2026 01:13:45
Red Jones, Gomez is constantly injured and completely unreliable. Leonis still not back from a year off dues to inhury, he's just a kid really and is yet to play 90 minutes for us with no Premier League experience. Yes, VVD is still here but he won't be forever, whether its this year or the next, who knows, the only thing we do know is the day will come and somebody will have to take the reins, that person definitely won't be Gomez and it would be moronic to give that responsibility to a 19 year old with no prem experience who's been out injured for over a year.
Yes, we will need somebody to replace Virgil, the nice thing about Araujo is he had the experience and can cover both RB and CB until that day comes.
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31 Oct 2026 04:36:21
I'd keep Araujo on attitude alone. He's all-action, 100% commitment and pops up in the box regularly too.
I would take him at right-back over an aging and declining Alexander-Arnold all day.
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31 Oct 2026 08:30:17
Keep Ron and buy a solid left back so milis is no 2.
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31 Oct 2026 09:20:21
KIt's rare I agree with you Ron but 100% here. People all mad for another Trent and then will destroy him when he costs us a goal.
We have so much attacking talent in the team now, and with Kerkez being questionable still a solid right back is exactly what we need. I seen him keep vini quiet a few years ago and always thought he was a better right full than centre half, as mentioned you get away with a little rashness out there where as at centre back it's usually a goal.
To say he doesn't offer a threat going forward is nonsense too, his assist for the Brighton goal a classic example when many would have stayed on the deck and claimed the foul he got up and got the ball in. I know he didn't officially get the assist but that's as good as for me.
Also people seem to be forgetting his aerial attributes, no surprise we've got from the worst team defending set pieces to the best this season. and he's a genuine threat at the other end. Not many right backs would have scored that header he got in the champs league as they would have tried to swing a boot at it afraid to go into the hoardings.
All about the Araujo train!
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31 Oct 2026 09:51:45
Another Trent like player on the attacking front doesn't have to mean he can't defend. Look at PSG's fullbacks they do both. Look at how much they contribute to their style of play. They are integral. The club should be looking at the next best or the up and coming next Hakimi's and Nunes's if we don't have them coming through.
I've never liked this CB at FB lark, we've mocked other"boring"teams for doing it for years. Araujo is a fine stopgap but shouldn't be our long term answer there.
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31 Oct 2026 10:14:14
Araujo has shown great commitment and desire. Some of his teammates could learn a thing or two about that from him! It's sorely lacking in other areas of the pitch!. Ultimately he is a CB able to play at RB. A team with intentions of winning the league and the Champions league requires a proper dedicated and reliable RB.
We have the money to buy one so just do that, be it Kayode or whomever that may be. Let Araujo cover both positions as required. He's an asset worth buying. Imo only.
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31 Oct 2026 10:43:51
Chelsea didn't do too badly with Branislav IvanoviΔ playing at right back, he was primarily a centre back who was competent at right back. I see Araujo in that same light.
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31 Oct 2026 11:10:38
I love the idea that he's doing a really good job but isn't really a RB. Have any of you actually contacted the club or player to let them know?
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31 Oct 2026 11:34:39
Yes Ivanovic did a good job at a club that was built around safety first football for years. Under Managers like Jose, Conte, Grant and Rafa. We slagged them off for years that their FB's weren't allowed cross the half way line.
Its part of the reason a Terry who couldn't run anymore lasted as long as he did. Got massive protection from a list of safety first managers.
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31 Oct 2026 12:27:34
Careful you don't offend yourself Wdw we know how triggered you get over anyone coming across as a superior posters.
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31 Oct 2026 14:14:58
"It helps us to defend better, but it is true that you also lose a little bit offensively on the other side".Iraola's words on Araujo yesterday.
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31 Oct 2026 15:16:14
Sounds like someone is hankering after a time that no longer exists with all this talk of Robbo/TAA. That team was pretty much setup to get the best out of two superb attacking full backs, replicating it would be almost impossible so why even try?
Araujo at RB gives us a lot more defensive solidity as we can go to 3CBs at the back if our left back gets caught out - we can already see how that has us defending better than last season. If/When Kerkez learns how to cross properly from the left then we'll have another attacking option whilst retaining the better defensive shape. Feels good to me, just need to get Kerkez working properly.
BTW I'm not knocking Kerkez, he's only 22 and ended up in a mess of a team last season, I'm confident he'll get his, erm, confidence back.
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31 Oct 2026 16:12:29
Similiar to what someone above said - it's rare enough I agree with your posts Ron, but here i think you're spot on.
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31 Oct 2026 16:16:27
Well Viktor, by that logic we didn't too badly having Trent at right back either, so I'm not sure what your point is? We won all the biggest prizes and were the closest competitor to a generational cheat of a team with him in the side, so why people keep suggesting he was the weakest link is quite incredible to me. You might not want him back in the side now but if you would really have Araujo over prime Trent, I don't know what to say to you.
Araujo kind of works in our side now because he has the skill set to thrive in today's prem with all the man to man stuff, he might not be the best defender in a continental setting but he is an absolutely elite duel winner, is comfortable covering wide areas or slotting in at center half to put out fires. He is pretty much custom built for today's prem, but today's prem is not yesterday's prem (as in Klopp's time) and probably won't be tomorrow's prem either, you can't say that the prem is always going to be super athletic monsters who need to win one on one duels all over the pitch every play. That's why Arsenal pretty much play four center halves in their defence.
Araujo would probably not have suited Klopp's team, just as Trent would have some difficulty getting into this Liverpool side right now as a right back given the balance issues we have and the fact that we are still trying to feel our way into Iraola's developing style and have to paper over the cracks in our side and keep it tight at the back while figuring it out. Still, we very very very much need somebody who is an elite progressive passer like him in the side right now, though there are very early signs that Nyoni can at least make up for some of the lack of passers in our team.
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31 Oct 2026 16:22:33
Not wanting to replicate anything. Just want good footballing fullbacks. Lets not make out as if I'm asking for miracles just because the CB we have in that position is the flavour of the month.
Agree0
31 Oct 2026 16:26:13
I'm also pretty sure Trent had to do some decent defending and had to put 100% in for us to get to that level under Klopp, Viktor, unless you're suggesting that Klopp abided passengers in the team and just gave Trent a free pass into the team because he could score the odd free kick and because he was the teacher's pet.
Agree0
31 Oct 2026 23:30:00
You finally figured me out at last after years of sparring @JK. π
The thing is with Araujo being a RB, if it quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, chances are it's a duck.
If a player can play, say, LB, LCB and DCM, the positional labels don't really matter. Same with RA, if he's chosen at CB by the coach then you'd expect him to do a job for us. Same with the RB role. A bit like Millie - a utility player. I'm not sure that the positional labels are that important if a player gas the skills to play in multiple positions.
Agree0
30 Oct 2026 18:01:59
Tough game on weekend but i think among Premier League managers only iraola ball is the antithesis to Arteta ball.
Only problem is we haven't yet showcased iraola ball for a full 90 minutes.
We won't get bullied on corners at least.
Two corner goals from Aruajo and van dyk and a 2-0 win would feel very good.
30 Oct 2026 18:14:36
You need top quality central midfielders to help an overall performance over 90 minutes. When they come in the door, I expect us to turn into an animal.
Agree1
30 Oct 2026 22:13:55
Barring injuries I think we will start with
Alison
Araujo.
Van Dijk
Jaquet
Kerkez
Gravenberch
McAllister
Wirtz
Gakpo
Isak
Barcola.
Agree3
31 Oct 2026 00:49:56
If we play Grav and Macca together as the '2' we will struggle.
Agree3
31 Oct 2026 08:03:38
No to Mac and Grav. Want Mac and Trey please.
Agree3
31 Oct 2026 11:56:41
If Szoboszlai is fit, I reckon he comes in for Gravenberch.
Agree0
30 Oct 2026 17:35:46
Looking like Elliot will be returning in January, really don't know what's happening with the lad.
30 Oct 2026 17:42:06
Not really our concern. Doubt he ever pulls on the red jersey again.
Agree2
30 Oct 2026 18:25:22
He needs a club that will suit him and be good to him. There's a player there for a good club. I. Still think Fulham is a good fit if he stays in England. Maybe Germany or Italy might suit his game.
Agree2
30 Oct 2026 18:38:08
He has a weight issue and his attitude has gone down the drain in la liga. That red card he got was a shocker but didn't do him any good. It was never the move for him and he should have picked Fulham over Valencia. Now it will be ridiculously hard for him to get into a Premier League team.
Agree4
30 Oct 2026 19:16:16
Not quick enough to play out wide, doesn't score enough goals to play as a 10, not physical enough to play in the middle. Think he'd do well in the champ.
Agree1
30 Oct 2026 19:27:05
I think Championship is his level.
Agree0
30 Oct 2026 21:04:07
That's the good old YNWA spirit that makes the club and us fans stand out @Florian - well said.
Agree6
31 Oct 2026 10:19:44
FM may not have been as tactful as you would like WDW but ultimately he's right. Elliott will not play for LFC again. He's just not good enough to do so. Prior to the season starting people were wanting to keep him here as part of the squad and lauding his potential input.
I could not understand that way of thinking tbh and can't see any attributes in his game whatsoever that improves the team. He needs to be sold and let both him and the club move on.
Agree0
31 Oct 2026 10:50:29
Virtue signaling again WDW? How original. Facts are that Elliott came back to training unfit and out of shape, that's not acceptable for a professional, that is purely on Elliott. He is the master of his own fate and if he's not prepared to do the hard work then the consequences of that are that his career will fizzle out, just like Jadon Sancho, Deli Ali, and countless others.
Agree1
31 Oct 2026 11:16:22
Not sure what virtue signalling is @Vik, to be honest with you.
However, I don't value your opinion on the matter.
Agree1
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