Liverpool banter 2

17 Oct 2025 15:16:29
Oh my god, the buttons are blue. ED25, you monster. What have you done to our page😁.

{Ed025's Note - blue is the future Davey....and we all know it mate.. :)

17 Oct 2025 15:31:33
i copied the colour theme from the Everton site and forgot to initially change it to red when activating the dark mode / light mode toggle.

17 Oct 2025 15:44:28
Haha Davey I just posted same before seeing yours.

17 Oct 2025 15:39:04
Some dodgy workings there ED33😁.

{Ed033's Note - Right, but it was worth it for the dark mode.

17 Oct 2025 10:06:40
Its all my fault this recent slum. I jinxed everything 4 matches back. We just welcomed our first child into the family. Little future lfc left back named séamie. Obviously the first thing was nailing his allegiance down by putting an lfc jersey on him- and this was done post haste and we got a win, but through unfortunate circumstances I wasn't able to get the jersey on him for the last 3 matches and a jinx was created. My bad guys. let's call it sleep deprivation. let's call it projectile fluids all over the place. However, come sunday I will endeavour to rectify this travesty going forward and put us back on track.

17 Oct 2025 10:21:41
Best way to break the hoodoo would be to keep him out of the strip on Sunday, because there's no way we're losing that game!

I know these superstitions are strong though, so if you have to keep him in the strip 24/ 7/ 52 then do it!

And finally, congratulations aoe, nothing in the world is as rewarding as having a kid, and I wish you and your family nothing but happiness, health and prosperity going forward mate.

17 Oct 2025 10:27:04
Jeez aoe, what were you thinking?

17 Oct 2025 11:03:28
When we won the double . my mate had bought a small Liverpool badge what he wore halfway through the season but the next 3 games we were poor results wise n he blamed the badge he bought he gave it to me . n we more or less won most games after that . all my mates at the match was saying you got ya badge on bfr the game started . mad how lil superstitions go but I believe it helped us win the double n no one can convince me otherwise.

17 Oct 2025 11:14:31
Congrats on your lil one, aoe. It is tough being a parent but I hope you find it to be a rewarding journey. Just remember to do your duties and get him to wear the kit this Sunday ;)

17 Oct 2025 11:14:32
I see your sneaky plan strom. I’m not giving you my son. Nice try though. I nearly fell for it.

17 Oct 2025 11:36:41
You'd better! Oh, and congratulations! 🤣.

17 Oct 2025 12:30:16
I had a feeling it was all down to you😉.

17 Oct 2025 12:41:04
Aoe. hahahah nearly worked.

17 Oct 2025 13:27:00
Congratulations aoe, please make sure you correct this issue for Sunday though.

17 Oct 2025 13:35:15
I feed a ton of birds and last year all the trophies were won by Bird clubs

Liverbird = Premier League
Magpies = League Cup
Eagles = FA. Cup
Cocekrel = Europa League

No one can convince me my superstition doesn't work 😅😅.

17 Oct 2025 14:02:07
Congrats mate!

17 Oct 2025 14:13:35
AOE, I want you go to the deepest darkest corners of the world to find a maniac Tattoo artist that will tattoo a Liverpool jersey onto little Seamie.

If I know Seamie, and I think I do, he can handle it.

17 Oct 2025 14:17:43
Congrats Aoe.

17 Oct 2025 14:28:57
I got that green top and we’ve lost every game since. Shambles.

17 Oct 2025 17:34:07
Thanks a million for the replies guys. Don’t worry- i got this. Back to winning ways methinks.

17 Oct 2025 17:39:47
Congratulations, to many more beautiful memories.

17 Oct 2025 19:04:40
LFC 8, I bought the cream third kit. Every time i've watched Liverpool whilst wearing it since they’ve lost.
Do I try and break the bad joojoo by giving it one last chance Sunday or relegate it to the clothes rack?

16 Oct 2025 17:59:44
Friends, need some advice. We are in Munich this weekend. Any thoughts on pubs or bars we can go to watch the Liverpool - United game on the 19th?

16 Oct 2025 20:12:51
Not been to Munich for years and can't speak for footie pubs. What I can say tho is if you have time, and u like beer and sausage, hop on the 20-30 train ride to Andechts Monastery. Monks make the beer and sausage and it's a nice 5k hike through some amazing countryside. Great day out.

17 Oct 2025 07:18:22
If you like sausage there are other places you could go! 😂😂.

17 Oct 2025 09:07:54
Ooohhh matron, I say.

17 Oct 2025 09:59:26
Sorry, W0rdsmith. I got nothing. Now had you been visiting Dusseldorf instead then, I got some places I could have proposed to you downtown by the Rhine river.

Red_Flyer69, monks beers are great. There is a Monastery here in the north of Belgium where they brew good beers and they don't sell them commercially. Got to taste some via an inside man. Truly delicious.

17 Oct 2025 11:04:33
Monks n sausages not a good idea if u ask me.

17 Oct 2025 15:19:17
Oli Andechts actually do sell commercially. SalmonMonk, are u itk?

17 Oct 2025 15:48:25
If the monks are drinking ale, they’ll have the game on in the back on the dodgy stick.

17 Oct 2025 16:30:02
If in doubt always try an Irish Pub.

Looks like Kilians is showing it and there's no bundesliga game on at the same time - kiliansirishpub.de/tv-sports/

15 Oct 2025 18:22:36
Hello ed0025 u OK mate? I saw u and Ron getting a bit tetchy with each other yesterday but glad u both sorted it all out. I was drinking in the elephant a few days before and wondering if the over 6 quid a pint was part of your grumpiness? Coz I tell you what it is mine.

{Ed025's Note - me and Ron are fine Baz, i hate being ripped off especially in pubs mate, all pubs should follow Wetherspoons lead and serve ale at proper prices, the Elephant has always been expensive so i tend to swerve it these days..

15 Oct 2025 22:52:25
It was expensive 40 odd years ago - I thought it was a tradition!

16 Oct 2025 08:18:20
Yeah i prefer the real ales that weatherspoons do. And also coz I work nights the one in lime St Station comes in handy coz it serves beer from 8 am so I can get an after work pint which helps knock me out until the kids get home from school. Still less than 2 quid a pint most of them as well.

{Ed078's Note - just got back to Aus from Cambodia where a 500ml beer was $1 US. Paying about 6 pound here.

16 Oct 2025 08:26:20
I don't think I leave!

15 Oct 2025 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Blue Laudrup has posted a new article entitled, Current Thoughts On Glasgow Rangers

14 Oct 2025 23:02:19
I was one of the few that thought we needed a midfielder as it was brilliant last season in large patches but in certain games could be bullied and bypassed so in my eyes could be improved on, at the minute mcallister is a passenger and I am trying to get my head round him having a hernia operation and the club not understanding he needs time to fully recover, going forward I want to see Jones in there and mac rested til he is fully back.

14 Oct 2025 23:19:53
How we’re using Mac is so contradictory to everything Slot has said about other players without a pre-season.

14 Oct 2025 23:37:52
There are no reports of him having a hernia, you have just made that up.

15 Oct 2025 08:16:36
You are wanting an Engine/ destroyer (or whatever the Genz call these days) . McAllister was never an engine. He is a Fabregas who needs a proper sitter / stopper beside him to function. McAllister is technically an excellent footballer with an eye for a goal. But asking him to run around and win the ball back isn’t his cup of tea.
The problem is not McAllister, Its how the midfield is balanced. It’s very difficult to succeed in England without a Rodri / Matic / Fabinho. Unfortunately we don’t have that profile in the squad.
I fully expect us to sign a DM in January or Summer.

Not sure if others have noticed it, but the font of this page has changed? Or is it only me?

{Ed001's Note - didn't Macca have the most challenges last season? The problem is Macca, as he does run around a lot, when he would be better served by running less and working on his positioning.}

15 Oct 2025 08:19:14
Slot would rather play a half fit Macca than Jones. Hopefully he has seen sense during the break.

15 Oct 2025 08:37:12
Well if he was never good positionally in the first place. And it’s the same with others too. This won’t go away by “training / chemistry”.

{Ed001's Note - it did improve last season.}

15 Oct 2025 08:58:02
McAllister is no Wijnaldum that you could deploy him in that role. But He is by and far our best midfielder on technique and skills (Wirtz is an exception) . He should be rotated with Wirtz. We need an upgrade on Endo (a Profile that would balance the midfield) .

15 Oct 2025 09:34:50
Macca had no preseason due to the injury he was playing with last season and trying to recover from right now. That is the first problem. IMO, he should go and get fit, get his legs fully underneath him and then come back fitter and ready to go. Till then, play guys like Jones who are actually fit and doing better than he is. But that's a "Dear Arne" question.

Secondly, Slot is trying to get Macca fit by playing him which is not helping the team overall esp. in transition and out of possession. Also, he lacks the athleticism that a Gini, Hendo, Fab or even a Szobo possesses even tho as Ed said, he runs around a lot. So expecting him to do things he lacks the ability to do is just a strange logic. Maybe as Ed said, he should focus on his positioning a bit more.

15 Oct 2025 10:02:39
Rodri, Matic and Fabinho are all unicorn players, I'm sure if players of that standard were on the market we would take a look. People on here are asking to get somebody like Wharton, who isn't at all that type of midfielder, sometimes I wonder if folks even really watch him play besides the games that he suits up against us (which should also tell you that he isn't a deep lying stopper of a midfielder) . Baleba is a very good player, mobile, athletic and excellent on the ball, but he has been very poor this season, probably also because of lack of match fitness.

Other than these two that everybody on here is always clamouring for, the likes of Joao Gomes and Andre would certainly be worth a look, though as good as he is I'm not sure Andre is good enough for us. Gomes, while not being a defensive stopper either, works very well as an all action pivot player who is very good on the ball and adds tenacity to any midfield. He just signed a five year contract a few months ago, though.

As for the point that a team can't succeed in England without a stopper of a midfielder. am I mistaken, or did we not win the title last year? Arsenal, who are once again the hype team in the PL, have Rice and Zubimendi as pivots, neither of them are traditional 6s or defensive stoppers, either.

I don't really understand this often-espoused logic on here that if we get a proper defensive midfielder all our problems are solved.

It might seem counter intuitive but I agree that our midfield is a big problem right not, though not because none of them are particularly defensively minded, but because we are having such huge difficulties in our build up we are not able to assert control in the game, and the likes of Mac Allister are having to do so much of what they are subpar at (receiving the ball with his back to goal in small spaces desperately trying to retain possession/ running around trying to put out fires) rather than what they are in the team for (facing forward and picking those trademark Mac Allister bounce passes into attacking spaces) . This team was built to dominate games and make the opponent retreat, not pass the ball backwards because Ryan and Macca can't turn or get the ball to the attacking third or have to run around everywhere trying to cover space.

15 Oct 2025 11:22:02
For me, the issue with the midfield last season was that we were missing one more body. Gravy, Macca and Szobo were goosed by the time the PSG and Newcastle games came around. It was clear pretty early that Endo was not fancied by Slot and Curtis has a great knack of being injured when you need him the most. It's almost an art form. Had we one more body to rotate in there last season I believe we would have beaten both PSG and Newcastle and picked up at least one more trophy.

This season is slightly different in that Macca is just not fit. I have no idea what the issue is/ was but it has clearly impacted us. Secondly, Gravy himself has admitted his role has changed a bit and that he is being given license to push on - which is probably also contributing the midfield's lack of cohesion right now.

We still haven't addressed last season's issue of being a body short in midfield. Will Nyoni, Bajcetic or Endo get game time - I am not so sure Slot will rotate them into anything other than domestic cup games.

Lastly, it's not just the midfield personnel that is the issue. The fullbacks are a key part of the build up, whether they hold width, underlap or invert into midfield. These lads are new and still getting to grips with being Liverpool players.

Slot has a lot to do.

FWIW, my four point plan would be:

- go back to basics with Gravy's role - as per last season
- give Kerkez and the right back (whichever we choose) the license to take their man on/ bomb on - we need to create a bit of risk
- tuck Mo in to leave space for the fullback
- while Macca is getting up to speed, get Szobo into midfield alongside Gravy.

And one bonus - fine Cody everytime he ignores the pass to Kerkez.

15 Oct 2025 12:10:06
Sorry guys my mistake I thought he had an operation but he is recovering from an injury and it would of been good if we knew the extent of his injury as he is such a key player when on song, he stands out like a sore thumb with his performances lately as its night and day, having said that he scored twice for Argentina yesterday maybe its a turning point.

15 Oct 2025 12:34:56
This team last year didn’t had Frimpong and Kerkez who are more of a winger than full backs or likes to operate. The team cannot operate without holding midfielders while playing two offensive full backs and central midfielders who simply can’t hold their position.
I like Wharton and he is a better player than McAllister for the defensive role. Not an engine but sold enough to sweep danger.
Arsenal have 4 center backs in their defense. With defensive minded full backs and plays defensive football all-together. They also have Declan Rice who is a better footballer than Baleba.
Zubemendi is their McAllister who all of you want to be dropped.

15 Oct 2025 14:48:03
Yes, it has for me 007. A bit weird.

15 Oct 2025 15:29:04
I agree that the team cannot operate without players sitting while others attack. Whether this is both midfielders, or a midfielder and a fullback, I don't know, but we can't commit everybody to attack and get done on transition. I disagree that we need to buy specialist 6s for that purpose. Gravenberch did perfectly fine doing that last year, Dom or Macca can do that too. When we control games better we won't need to be scrambling everywhere putting out fires anyway.

If we buy another midfielder, it's to provide more cover and rotation for the style that Slot wants to play. I think we should give the whole 'Slot needs to change and play a specialist 6' nonsense a rest, we won the title without one.

That being said, Adam Cleary put out a very interesting video as to why 6s are being asked to arrive late in the box and pick up attacking positions this year in the prem. Definitely worth a watch.

15 Oct 2025 15:44:45
Why are you talking about Arsenal? Are they your latest crush? I guess it's their turn after Chelsea and City had a go.

15 Oct 2025 16:19:46
FlyPelicanFly, those ^layers were goosed cos Slot refused to rotate them. He literally admitted it before the season ended and said he regrets not doing that more cos tho, Jones could pick up an injury here or there, Elliott was right there who could come in and do a job. and he also underrated Endo at first, only to use him later. That's on Slot and to his credit, he admitted it so Im fine with that.

On the other hand, he has started rotating this season from the off which does not help cos he seemed to go from one extreme to the other on this topic hence, I have always said that he needs to recalibrate his ideas a bit more to suit his team that is trying to learn a new way with so much player turnover.

Now tho one can agree that we may have needed a new midf. body and I was saying MacConnell should have been promoted (that's just me), I don't know the in's nor out's of whether there was a viable option out there. At the end of the day like you said, Slot has had a lot to keep him busy this int'l break so let's see what we have come Sun.

15 Oct 2025 16:24:52
TB2, don't be surprised if Harry starts bigging up Spurs (as a stick to beat us with) if they ever went top at any point this season.

15 Oct 2025 18:08:09
I can see it already, Palhinha becoming his new favorite player.

15 Oct 2025 18:20:23
Why does another poster talk about 3 other players that don’t play for Liverpool? Is it not allowed to make comparisons about opposing players and team tactics?

15 Oct 2025 19:02:36
Pot kettle black on some supporters calling other supporters out on how they support the club.

15 Oct 2025 19:12:28
Because it’s a targeted abuse at me @Irish. I must be the first poster to refer a non LFC team/ player on this page. The comparison came from @Patriks post on how Arsenal is playing today.

@Oli
I did not beat up any LFC player on this thread, and if you bother to look carefully I have given a lot of complements for McAllister, A player you and your allies have been beating since the beginning of the season.
And BTW Palinha is a decent player, not my fault.

15 Oct 2025 20:03:55
I agree the mid hasn't been at it's best because of macca's fitness, but I think the main problem is that our forwards have completely stopped pressing as a unit. It means the mid is out of position and quickly over run constantly. I don't believe it's down to new signings not meshing yet because it's often Gakpo and Salah who fail to join in, and my concern it's a change made to accommodate Isak who just doesn't press.

If we're going to abandon defending from the front with the press, then the midfield will continue to be over run without adding bodies, I don't know where they come from on the pitch because sacrificing width seems like creating a new set of problems.

15 Oct 2025 20:13:12
I’ve always preferred Curtis to macca.

15 Oct 2025 20:25:14
Curtis Jones is like the Scarlet Pimpernel - he disappears when you need him. Good squad player but cannot be relied on as a starter.

@Oli, I don't get the impression Slot has changed his mind on Endo btw. He will still not start games other than the early rounds of the cups.

15 Oct 2025 21:52:57
I think Jones is one of the very few players that can hold his head up so far this season, even tho he hasn’t played a load.

16 Oct 2025 08:29:57
You do know the Scarlet Pimpernel appeared when he rescued members of the aristocracy? It was the French (the baddies) who couldn’t find him?

16 Oct 2025 09:12:37
If Jones could hold his head up a little higher he might even be able to make the passes earlier, Irish.

He’s a good squad player. Just hasn’t improved his ability to release the ball earlier in all these years despite being given the opportunities by both Klopp and Slot. It seems unlikely to change at this stage.

16 Oct 2025 10:18:39
FPF, have to agree with everything you said earlier in the thread. Why Slot would change what Gravy was doing last season is beyond me. Signing Kerkez and not let him do what he was signed to do, bombing up and down the left, again is beyond me. Sobz playing a bit deeper than last season which allows Wirtz the space infront. Hopefully that all clicks very soon. Up the REDS.

16 Oct 2025 11:11:06
FlyPelicanFly, I didn't say Slot has changed his mind on Endo. I only said, Slot changed (past tense) his mind on Endo last season which led to him playing more esp. in the second half of the season. Not the case this season, for sure. Just a tiny clarification.

@Harry as they sa, go whine somewhere else with your self righteous nonsense. Like @TB2, Not arsed what you think about Macca cos he plays for my team. Not your team as in, City. You've been doing your schtick of "Oh, look at Kante at Chelsea., look at Foden at City, look at. Why can't LFC player X play like oppo. player Y" blah, blah, blah blah for years now so don't start playing self righteous as if you have any type of insight. And you wonder why certain posters call you a troll, a word I don't even use. So go pound sand, buddy. Btw, How did it feel watching your beloved City get smoked all of last season?

And I am free to criticise any LFC player as I see warranted (and if you could read, you would know I didn't even beat up Macca as it's Slot's fault for playing him whilst not fit) cos I support the team he plays for.

16 Oct 2025 12:05:18
Nice escape there, Oli :)

16 Oct 2025 16:58:26
FPF agree wholeheartedly with your earlier post. get Salah off the wing, let the full backs overlap and leave two mids to sit in lending support to CBs. Width is not Cody and Mo on the wings stood still with no options but to pass sideways and backwards or to try and force it.