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26 Jul 2021 16:17:43
Hi Ed's. Was wondering if you'd be able to give us a quick rundown of exactly where the club is at currently in regards to incomings if possible. Now, we've known for a while that we'd need to sell to buy which is fine, but just as we're starting to sell contrasting reports come out saying we're not not looking to make any further recruitments this summer. Is this actually the case, or is it more of a front as we've seen in the past with deals such as Fab and Thiago. I agree with the policy of not just recruiting just for the sake of it (although many expect us to! ) but surely if we're trying to move quite a few players on such as Gini, Shaq etc then surely the club must realise we need to bring some cover in - especially with AFCON and the WC next year!

Your knowledge is always greatly appreciated,

Cheers guys :)

{Ed002's Note - Without a doubt the club need to do better with the resources they have. Personally if Keita had worked out there may not be a need to add an additional MF player to replace Wijnaldum with Curtis Jones coming through. So my feeling is that if a MF player could be found at the right price then that would be a likely move. The other addition would be a versatile forward (along the lines of Bowen perhaps) but perhaps more could be done with Minamino.}


1.) 26 Jul 2021 17:08:48
I see! That would make sense for sure, Keita has been a total waste imo. Are the club actively looking or is it more just of an idea? Like are we actually going to move for a player in either of them positions? Putting it bluntly, is there anyone we’re going to move for in your opinion or is it going to be a quiet end for the window?

Cheers for the reply :)

{Ed002's Note - I have explained where I know of Liverpool interest.}


2.) 26 Jul 2021 17:12:10
If the current midfielders stay fit I think we are ok. But Ox, Keita and Hendo pick up injuries.

For me the starting three is Fab, Thiago and Hendo no matter if we sign another midfielder (unless it is Saul but that ain't going to happen haha) . So a bench of Keita, Jones and Ox doesn't seem too bad.


3.) 26 Jul 2021 17:45:31
As you say jordz they can’t stay fit. It’s very unlikely that Fabs will be fit all season and we have no idea which Thiago will turn up. I think ed066 sums it up best when he says he doubts if we currently have a title winning midfield.


4.) 26 Jul 2021 18:04:16
Bissouma and Bowen would be a very good conclusion to the window imo.


5.) 26 Jul 2021 19:34:52
Don't forget Milner lads.

Hendo, Fabinho, Thiago, Keita, Milner, Jones, Ox and Elliott makes 8 players in the squad who Klopp has used in midfield previously.


6.) 26 Jul 2021 20:56:11
However many times people write the list down it doesn't get any better. No matter who tries to dress it up that is not a champonship winning midfield.


7.) 26 Jul 2021 20:57:51
But MK, take our Fabinho and Henderson from that group and any three from the remainder won’t win games, yes we’ve loads of players who can play in midfield but when you scratch the surface it’s not actually that good without either of Henderson or Fabinho playing there. Imagine going into a game against Man City with a midfield of Milner, Keita and Jones, we’d get battered.


8.) 26 Jul 2021 21:09:26
Agree Mark it would leave me nervous going into a season with the midfielders and their injury record. Hopefully it’s behind them.

I could see Shaq going and Phillips and maybe Neuhaus and Bowen. I think that’d still work with the squad quotas.


9.) 26 Jul 2021 21:20:39
Henderson, Fabinho and Thiago isn't a championship winning midfield? They've literally all won championships. Thiago has won 11 of them.


10.) 26 Jul 2021 21:24:31
Ed002 am not sure if it’s down to the club doing better with the players we have. Nabby needs no do so much more when he plays 9 times out of 10 it’s like we are playing with 10 men his effort is just not up to it. I had high hopes for Minamino am just not sure his right for the league it’s just a shame Nabby has not got Minamino’s work ethic.


11.) 26 Jul 2021 21:28:32
We’re missing a goal scoring midfielder and then we will have a title winning midfield. Fab, Thiago and Hendo are class acts, but none of them score enough goals.


12.) 26 Jul 2021 21:49:55
How many times will Hendo and Fabs start together in PL midfield? Maybe 20 if we are lucky. The drop off then is big and it is likely the 2 of them will be injured together at some stage. I think Jones can step up but the rest can't stay fit or are unproven in the PL.


13.) 26 Jul 2021 21:52:37
During the CL win in2019 and the league win of 2020 who was the goalscoring midfielder? Just curious.


14.) 26 Jul 2021 22:09:13
Milner, hendo, Fab, Jones, Ox, Keita, thiago is a fantastic group of 7 whether you agree about the quality of depth or injury concerns.
at the end of the day we can't just keep adding to the squad. In many ways we are reaping what we have sowed so it is what it is and the club need to deal with that. I like what ed has said and feel like we need to figure it out. I mean if these players are "dead wood" like how they are described as by fans, who are rhey expecting to buy them and what kind of sale are younexpecting lol.


15.) 26 Jul 2021 22:34:41
What concerns me is how unbalanced the midfield looked with both Hendo and Fabhino playing in defence ( or injured ) . Agree we can’t keep adding but it’s pretty clear neither Hendo nor Fabs will stay injury free and when they’re not in the team, we suffer.


16.) 26 Jul 2021 22:35:15
Reaping what we have sowed. What you mean is we have less than 50% buying power of our rivals. Ox got injured when he was at the top of his game, no one’s fault we just don’t have the funds to change it. Keita was a bad buy, but there have been very few that have cost decent money. Our rivals would just bin him and sign another £50m player. Your not being at all fair faith works.


17.) 26 Jul 2021 22:43:13
Milner is 36!


18.) 26 Jul 2021 22:47:22
Injury free is unreasonable to think. But long term injuries gone and players meeting their potential, with youngsters coming through. We actually don’t need to sign anyone. Our first 11 is good enough to win the title. If our rotation players like Ox, Keita, Minamino perform like they do in preseason or before injury. If the young lads at full back and other areas are as good as we hear. Plus Elliot. Then we know we’ve got three GKs. We have then the defence, midfield and front line already. We have players to switch to almost any formation.
Ideally we’d upgrade but if it did not happen and the flying pigs went past Keitas place and our hospital beds. Regardless who others strengthen our squad should be there.


19.) 27 Jul 2021 06:52:32
I can't believe we're still getting comments about needing goal scoring midfielders! The starting 3 of Fabinho, Hendo and Thiago is potentially a PL winning midfield but I have three major concerns

1) If Fabinho needs a rest or is injured, who plays at 6? Hendo can potentially do it but it's still a big risk to what's a crucial position in our setup given how attacking our fullbacks are

2) While we have decent depth off the bench, Keita has often flattered to deceive, Milner is getting on a bit, Ox has had consistent injury problems and Jones is still young. All of these are potentially capable of proving me wrong and having a great season, but in recent times, none of these has shown an ability to consistently challenge for a starting position, or to change a game from the bench

3) Our best midfielders aren't getting any younger

I would ideally like to see both Shaq and Keita sold, and then one top player brought in who can play at either 6 or 8. That would
1) provide cover for Fabinho if required
2) bring competition for the starting positions (and ability to change games from the bench as a result)
3) help ease the transition when eventually Hendo, Milner and Thiago are ready to retire.


20.) 27 Jul 2021 06:52:40
Far far too many IFs mate. We have to make at least one more decent signing.


21.) 27 Jul 2021 07:31:59
SG you do realise that Hendo played number 6 the year we won the title.


22.) 27 Jul 2021 08:45:28
Massively overthinking it lads. If Fabinho needed a break or got injured we could simply switch to a 4-2-3-1 as we did several times last season, and play any of Hendo, Thiago, Milner, Jones or Keita in the 2.

Or you just drop Hendo into the 6 and play any of the above (or also Elliott or Ox) off the side of a midfield 3. You don't need 2 specialists for every position. Elite players should be able to play a couple of positions minimum and tactical changes can be made to accommodate who is available. We might even end up playing a 4-2-3-1 as plan A if Jota stays fit all year and starts banging in goals again. We were starting to play that formation last year just before he got injured so maybe that's what Klopp wants going forward.


23.) 27 Jul 2021 09:37:42
I hear you Mark but Hendos not getting any younger and it’s obvious from last season the challenges we face if We lose Fabinho. Getting someone versatile enough to cover both 6 or 8 makes sense in the long term and also gives you the option to leave Hendo in his best position which is box to box IMO. It’s why I think Bissouma would be perfect for us.

MK I like the 4-2-3-1 against lower the lower league sides as I think it gives you the chance to play Mane, Firmino, Salah and Jota/ Minamino/ Elliott together to break down a stubborn defence, but against the top sides and in the CL I expect the 4-3-3 will continue to be Klopps go to. A lot more balanced and a lot more control in a tough midfield battle.


24.) 27 Jul 2021 10:29:37
I agree we need a player who can play 6 or 8 I hope we get the right guy.


25.) 27 Jul 2021 15:07:32
mark - the point is that we have signed these players. that they have become injrued, or were injured on arrival, or injury-prone, we made the decision to sign the players and now we have to deal with that. just adding players to the squad in case of injury isn't a solution.


26.) 27 Jul 2021 16:55:35
We have a budget of a mid table side and we are punching way way above our weight. As I said you are being totally unfair. You would be happier if we slashed the wage bill sold the squad players and after a few years made profits but finished mid table. It’s lack of funds and one bad buy that gives us this midfield. Klopp will find a solution.
Jones is from the academy, Fabs, Hendo and Milner are all great signings and Thiago was £25m. I think the midfield is great under the circumstances. We now need to replace Gini.


27.) 27 Jul 2021 23:04:50
budget of a mid-table team paying some of the highest squad wages in the league. give me a sec to try and unpack that one . . .


28.) 28 Jul 2021 07:04:26
Our money goes on wages, it has to or it becomes impossible to compete. Then we have to be creative in the market. But this reap what you sow garbage is what was out of order. I still maintain we are punching 2 levels above our weight. I have faith we will buy the right midfielder you should to.


 

 

21 Jul 2021 11:25:33
Hearing we have an interest in Jarrod Bowen this summer. Surprising move imo, club but could turn out be a good buy. Young, PL experience and HG (I assume? ) .

Any truth to this?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Jarrod Bowen (RW) I am not aware of any approach by Liverpool at this time but Bowen is a player who would be an ideal replacement for Shaqiri - and is HG. Liverpool have a good relationship with his agent and may well have spoken with him. Others have suggested that Harry Wilson should be given a chance in that same role. I don't know if West Ham would be open to selling. Their focus is on other positions. So it makes some sense if West Ham are open to a sale and if the player accepts a bit-part role. I am not aware of any other clubs showing an interest.}


1.) 21 Jul 2021 13:47:44
Perhaps one to keep an eye on as an outside option then? Thanks for the reply :)


2.) 21 Jul 2021 20:07:22
Hopefully not. It's all well and good being homegrown but he really doesn't look bothered half the time. He burned out last season, fair enough it was a strange season.

All in all though, he is not good enough in my opinion. I would rather keep Shaqiri than spend twice as much on Bowen (who is also inconsistent) .


 

 

17 Jun 2021 17:09:59
Afternoon Ed's,

Been a quiet few weeks really - to be expected with the euros I suppose - but would you possibly be able to give us a quick run down on who we've got an interest in/ are in early talks with for after the tournament? Mostly so I can watch them haha!

Would be much appreciated!

Cheers.


1.) 17 Jun 2021 17:33:36
Rs15, I think that is a big NO from the Eds :D.


2.) 17 Jun 2021 17:47:23
If you don’t ask, you don’t get! Maybe they’re feeling generous!


3.) 17 Jun 2021 18:48:42
Rs15 unfortunately we are having to live on scraps from the Ed’s thanks to some on here trolling the pages. Which is fair enough and I can’t blame the Ed’s. There has been a big downturn in people asking on players and chat in general on here as a result sadly.


4.) 17 Jun 2021 19:36:44
Yeah that’s a real shame, especially for those of us that actually value what they have to say. I religiously check this page daily and it’s a shame people ruin it for us all! You’re right though, can’t blame them.


 

 

26 May 2021 17:56:45
Evening Ed's,

Seeing so many names here that are clearly just media speculation and we have no interest in, so was wondering if you'd be able to give us a quick run down on who our top targets actually are or at least who were looking at?

Thank you!

{Ed0666's Note - Eds 002 is gonna do a sharkapod real soon. Keep on the look out mate


1.) 26 May 2021 19:02:14
Why is a sharkapod called a sharkapod? I’m just interested that’s all.

{Ed002's Note - There is no such thing as a Sharkapod. There is a Sharkopod of course.}


2.) 26 May 2021 23:44:40
Ah. That clears that up thanks Ed.


3.) 27 May 2021 01:49:32
I think it’s cos Ed002’s avatar used to be a shark. And the other Eds call him Sharky- is that right?


4.) 27 May 2021 12:39:07
Sharkey? I would have thought it was "Jaws", Lol. (oh damn, now I'm going to get banned)

{Ed014's Note - yep he’s Sharkey and yep your banned! 😉🤣


5.) 27 May 2021 19:07:11
I heard it was because the only music he will entertain is only the works of Fergal Sharkey.


 

 

19 Apr 2021 20:53:20
Evening Ed's. Good first half from us, but sadly doesn't overrule the bigger issues surrounding our club at the moment.

Understand if you don't want to get into it too much but I wanted to try and get your take. Do you honestly think the ESL will go ahead, or do you think the threats from fans, players past and present, and governing bodies will be enough to bring it to a halt? Surely Liverpool wouldn't risk their rich UCL history or their place in the PL for this, would they? I also really hope Klopp doesn't walk.

Thanks guys :)

{Ed0666's Note - I said in the podcast yesterday that it wouldn’t happen as the backlash would be too severe. Nothing has transpired in the meantime for me to change my mind. I do believe the days of FSG are numbered as owners I don’t think they’ll survive this monumental money grab.


1.) 19 Apr 2021 22:18:01
Do you think the other owners will also be forced out, Ed066?

{Ed0666's Note - I do yes


2.) 19 Apr 2021 22:28:47
Hope they do piss off ed666.

{Ed0666's Note - I do too


3.) 19 Apr 2021 23:10:31
As an American and a lifelong Red Sox and Liverpool supporter, I hope you're right Ed. The first gaff or two can be considered naiveté, but after that it is pure arrogance and completely ignoring the global fanbase, but most especially the people in Liverpool. Unforgivable in my opinion.

{Ed0666's Note - there’s only so many chances you can give them and in my opinion they’ve abused and used all their credit.


4.) 20 Apr 2021 01:21:15
Get them out how? At the end of the day unless someone is willing to pay them the guts of 2bn for the club they're not going anywhere.


5.) 20 Apr 2021 05:15:32
Port red - What makes you think LFC will be worth 2bn once this is all said and done? The owners have not grasped that what they are attempting goes far beyond the monetary value of an organization. What they are doing is a brazen attempt to steal from the less affluent yet again, only this time their target is the one non-familial thing we truly love.
Football, for many, is the thread that knits the very fabric of the social relationships of millions. I disagree with our amazing manager’s opinion that “Football is the most important of the least important things” - it deserves far greater recognition than that. It encompasses many of the thoughts, worries and hopes of the masses and, though it is not a matter of life and death, football provides real meaning to the days of entire fanbases.
The fans are the one group that can prevent the appalling Super League from going ahead, way beyond what any feeble legal pathways can achieve. Do not fill the stadiums, do not buy the £100 shirts, do not tune in to watch our games. The kleptomaniacs who seek to take everything we have and cherish will soon get the message.
John Henry will never be welcomed nor admired by Liverpool fans again. He has shown that to him our 129-year history, in comparison to the profits he craves, means absolutely nothing.


6.) 19 Apr 2021 23:51:09
Ed001, you state the FSG days are numbered, but who would be looking or in a position to buy them out? There 300m gamble has paid of to the tune that what we are worth 1.1billion now?

{Ed001's Note - we may be worth that, but we are also massively in debt, and a takeover would have to pay them off. But FSG's tenure is now untenable. Not one real fan will ever back them again, they have shown utter contempt for us fans.}


7.) 20 Apr 2021 07:37:56
Morning Ed001, what’s the reaction on the other pages ( clubs that have said they want the super league ) , I know United fans are anti glazer but what about city, Chelsea etc do they want their owners gone?

{Ed001's Note - the City page is as packed as the stadiums are at the moment, so there is never a reaction on there to anything. The sites that do have traffic are all united in their opposition to the proposal. The closest to agreeing with it is those of teams outside the top 6 saying they should all f off, in essence. I have see one person posting in favour across all the sites, and that is on here. No real football fan wants this crap.}


8.) 20 Apr 2021 07:48:13
That doesn’t surprise me with City lol. I’m just not sure where we go from here and who we would get to take over the club. The whole game is now based on a business model, even more so than when the PL was introduced 30 odd years ago.

{Ed001's Note - there will always be people who would want to, the issue is finding people who can afford to. It will probably have to be a fan group of some kind that does it.}


9.) 20 Apr 2021 08:11:04
Glad fans can now see what FSG have always been about, can't leave soon enough.


10.) 20 Apr 2021 08:23:04
So let's say new owners buy LFC. what on earth makes people think k that the owners will come I and willfully choose to walk away from the negotiating table with these elite European clubs?

The world's top clubs are all discussing this. People need to get this through their skulls.

{Ed001's Note - the only way to stop it is if a fans' group owns 51% or more.}


11.) 20 Apr 2021 09:52:49
I posted yesterday about 51% fan ownership and ed002 said there’s no chance. It’s sad and depressing to know that the ship has probably sailed in that respect.


12.) 20 Apr 2021 09:46:48
Ed’s- a lot of the reports mainly Sky saying this will begin from next season, but I know from comments on here it’s suggested this will be from 2024 or later. Do they have any concrete date when this proposal would begin.

{Ed002's Note - There is no concrete date as there are some significant legal issues to be addressed. In theory 2024 is the first realistic oppotunity to do anything without at least that one hurdle.}


13.) 20 Apr 2021 15:32:49
OK, so I'm going to be controversial here and play a bit of 'devil's advocate. '

I want to make it clear though - at no point am i going to say that i agree with this decision, nor that it is motivated by anything other than greed and I am also not going to disagree with the monumental impact this is going to have on the game and particularly the grass roots game, aspirations and dreams of the young or the fact that football is a game that should be accessible to everyone. I have a little boy who is obsessed (brainwashed!? ) with becoming the next mo Salah and who nloves Liverpool and plays eagerly several times a week and I think about the impact this might have on him. So please don't shoot me down personally - I am just going to set out the other side as i see it.

The question I have here is - what did we think was going to happen? The sickness of greed set in to the game many years ago - arguably with the creation of the EPL and the ridiculous sums being paid out for telvised rights. As soon as you start paying footballers the eye-watering sums they get paid each week, the slippery road to big bucks and billionaires is the only option available to you. The game was lost in this fashion a long time ago.

In the US, basketball went through a similar situation. they have a league there where teams are not 'relegated' and 'promoted' but have stable structure, championship and a hell of a lot of money floating around and people still watch it, like the games, fans turn out and they have an atractive and marketable product. It hasn't stopped kids shooting hoops, aspiring to be the next Michael Jordan or Steph Curry nor has ot taken money away from the college game which has itself become financially stellar in its own right. It's just different is all.

Fans across the world - whether we like it or not here in Blighty as rock solid Liverpool fans - want to see the 'big games'. There is excitement when Barcelona play Liverpool or Juventus play United or when Man City lose to PSG. And in a business sense it works - the money stays with the big teams who are encouraged to spend within the league where the best players are, but there is a filter down, knock-on effect for other clubs and the ESL will still offer a chance to them to be part of the big boys club. Shareholders are happy because there is the option of financial stability and there is no longer the risk of punitive financial action if the team doesn't do well - so a key risk variable for business sustainability is removed - therefore enhancing the protection for tyhe longevity of the club and less relaiance on debt going forward. It makes sense from a business/ financial perspective and we see that in the share price increase of some of the 'dirty dozen' today.

The problem is that it is a business decision and fans might stiull be clinging on to the belief that modern elite football is something other than a big business. But frankly, that notion is as dead as a famous parrot and has been for a long time. We've just been kidding ourselves that it is anything different.

Once the big sums, the big business and the 'brand product' became more important than the game (which happened a long time ago), the situation we are in now was always an inevitability and there is little merit in complaining about it now. Wouldn't you rather be part of an inevitable future as a pioneer, leading the pack with a strong negotiating hand for arguing for change in existing structures if it comes to that, than not being at the party at all?

That was a rhetorical question. I would rather be a fan of a club which respected its history, its origins, its fans, its staff and went through a process of consultation, agreement and formed a powerful consensus view which helped shape the landscape - ironically, we have created that for everyone else who have been so united in their criticism of our plans! - than be led by the natural evolution of capitalism and market forces. But this was seeded a hell of a long time ago and maybe we all need to wake up to the notion that this is just how big business works. And even we stopped being a local club for local folk way before this decision wwas made and are just a big business which views fans and even our history as a data-rich commodity.

It doesn't feel nice but that's what it is.

God, I've depressed myself. Bring back the days when we played 'Total Network Solutions. ' I was at that game. I think Stevie G scored a hatrick.

Good times.


14.) 20 Apr 2021 16:18:30
I'm not having a go but if you think this is the right model for you and your idea of sport then you can always watch the mls.


15.) 20 Apr 2021 16:54:05
Thanks Vermiculo - I'd just reference the second line of my 'missive' where I said 'at no point am I going to say i agree with the decision. ' But I think it's important to understand it.


16.) 20 Apr 2021 17:38:51
I think you make good points RedFlag. I think this is a terrible idea also, but there's a reason all the big clubs have agreed, and it's not because their completely ignorant of the fans feelings or beastly devils. It's business.

I also wonder why the UCL didn't take this threat more seriously or do more than restructure the competition. To be honest, I don't have any personal attachment to the UCL (I love the competition and seeing Liverpool playing in it, but do I feel any loyalty to the actual UCL? Not really. ) Maybe I'm alone here, but because of that I wonder if there's a way the ESL or the UCL could be restructured to be more appealing to both the fans and the owners? Maybe the "big clubs" could be given more enduring spots that wouldn't guarantee them a spot but would allow them to stay after a year or two of poor results. Obviously the owners want more financial incentive (you have to wonder why the UCL doesn't pay clubs more; if anything the ESL has shown that clubs could be making more than they currently are) and more security for their investment (not qualifying now means not long loss of revenue but that recruiting players becomes more difficult making future qualification harder) .

Finally, just want to reiterate that I am not at all in favor of the ESL, but I do think it's important to see both sides when trying to look for solutions. One final question: why does the premier league care about ESL? Do they feel threatened that teams will eventually leave altogether (because I find that hard to believe)? Are they just trying to protect the integrity of football? Or are they just cozy with UEFA?

{Ed002's Note - They have engaged with others about options and they have also just made changes to the structure. Liverpool and Manchester United are not interested in engaging with them, they want power, control and more money and to replace the CL. They did not engage or talk to them at all. Yes they are concerned about the 21 "eleite" clubs, or in all probability 16, leaving at some point.}


17.) 20 Apr 2021 17:56:02
I’d agree with that red flag and I’d add this. How many times have fans asked questions about us signing Mbappe? Haaland? Messi? I’ve probably seen hundreds on this site alone.
Well you all got your wish. This is what is needed if you are going to sign players of that ilk. You can spend billions of pounds knowing that there is zero chance of it all going belly up. If it doesn’t work you just finish bottom and start again next season. Happy days! From a business sense the ESL is a no brainer.
We as fans though remember the days when we went to matches with our parents or grandparents and we feel that the club is part of us. Which it absolutely is!
The problem is that the club we went to see with our parents or grandparents doesn’t exist anymore and hasn’t done for 30 years.
This is a global brand now, Liverpool FC only by name. It’s what we wanted we can’t moan! We’ve asked for the club to spend, spend, spend! To be successful! Well here you go, this is what success looks like.
I like most people are sickened by the way the game has gone but this started as soon as we allowed the premier league and Sky to take over the game.


18.) 20 Apr 2021 17:58:05
If this happens I'll be done watching Liverpool which is 40 years and counting. But, I find it amusing watching the PL and pundits squirm at this development. They are all very well off because of the PL being formed. That was the first big step in this direction. Unbelievable hypocrisy from the likes of Neville. All he's thinking is "how will this impact my sky salary? " Formation of the PL was a huge money grab by owners, players and the tv providers. Let's hit the clubs and the PL where it hurts and stop watching matches. Let them play in empty stadiums next year and i mean all 20 clubs. Hit the breakaway clubs in the pocket and do the same w the PL clubs until they give the game back to their rightful owners: the fans. No reason to be making the money they make. I'll b cancelling my tv subscriptions and i won't watch another match if this goes ahead.


19.) 20 Apr 2021 18:27:20
I think that's a brilliant post redflag. Couple of good replies in there as well. In my opinion sums it up perfectly. As a business decision, it is a fantastic one for the shareholders and those financially linked to the club/ s. Risk free and massive returns. Of course the majority in that position with little emotional link to the club would go for it.

From a sporting integrity or a fan perspective who want to see competition, it's awful and will/ has killed the sport. Unfortunately, the leading role our owners have played hurts the most.


20.) 20 Apr 2021 18:27:45
Thanks for the reply Ed. I didn't know Liverpool and MU refused to discuss UCL changes. It makes this whole situation even more irritating. I know the answer is money, but I just don't see why any clubs would look to leave their domestic league. It seems crazy.


21.) 20 Apr 2021 19:05:25
I'm not sure the Liverpool and Unt owners can easily back down from it now having driven the agenda, the damage is done. Will everyone just accept us back with open arms? No ramifications? They have actively opened legal proceedings to block attempts to stop it happening, I'm not sure it's forgivable.


 

 

 

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20 Apr 2021 22:01:30
Looks like we've done it and the ESL is no more. But, the question is - is it true? Are the yanks looking to sell?

{Ed002's Note - You think that is the decision made in tonight?


 

 

06 Oct 2020 14:52:29
Afternoon Eds,

So obviously we have been seeing quite a few first team members getting C.V. as of recent, so I'm wondering what is the procedure? Like how many cases need to be within the first team before postponements begin as surely if, say, half the squad got it surely we wouldn't play due to the huge disadvantage and the safety risks? And do the club have any plan to try and keep the squad all healthy e. g. perhaps quarantining the whole team? Wondering if you could shed some light on the situation?

Stay safe and thanks!

{Ed002's Note - It is related to the ability of Liverpool being able to fulfil the fixture - you do realise that people recover and can return to play? Liverpool has a very large squad of players including the youngster they register that should not impede their ability to put a team out. Other teams have been affected in a far larger way. If it comes to it fixtures will be postponed in the first instance. It is the responsibility of the club to do what they can to keep the squad healthy and to have the players follow rules to try and ensure that they are healthy and stay healthy. Just before the restart Chelsea had nine players in quarantine although only two and then one player testing positive - that was there way of addressing the issue. Other clubs can look do do the same but it is their right to decide what to do.}


1.) 06 Oct 2020 15:34:27
Chelsea players should stick to the rules then. tammy is a prize idiot! Not just Chelsea of course but these guys are brainless.


2.) 06 Oct 2020 16:01:52
I think we did the right thing by staying physically distant from the Villa players.
Selfless display from the Reds.


3.) 06 Oct 2020 16:48:56
Shame on all these professional footballers not sticking by the guidance/ law, they are meant to be role models!


4.) 06 Oct 2020 18:16:31
Rigsby, we took social distancing to a whole new level vs Villa, I agree.


5.) 06 Oct 2020 16:43:28
Just curious, has a protocol been established for how many need to be unavailable before the authorities will consider a postponement of a fixture?

Or is it to be done on a case by case basis? Most PL clubs could still field a team, with a full bench, with as many as 10 missing due to C.V., but what if that 10 included four center backs or all their goalkeepers?

{Ed002's Note - No, it is about the ability of a club to put a team out. Last season Liverpool registered 77 players with the Premier League (25 full squad and 52 others who would be available). If they cannot put a team out there will be the chance to reschedule.}


6.) 06 Oct 2020 23:03:36
ed - what are the rules with close contacts of positive cases? In NZ close contacts are advised to isolate for 14 days and take a test. is there a similar rule in premier league?

{Ed002's Note - I answered this yesterday.}


 

 

11 Aug 2020 20:35:08
So reportedly we've finally received our £170m for winning the league - if this is true will any of this cash go towards the transfer fund? Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - No, it is all spoken for.}


1.) 11 Aug 2020 21:33:56
So this 170 mill that's already spoken for where would that have come from had we not won the league, just curious.

{Ed002's Note - You don't understand, it would have been a tiny bit less for coming second, a tiny bit less for coming third etc.. It is not a bonus for winning the league. You should ignore the finances.}


2.) 11 Aug 2020 21:52:46
Our wage bill is £330m alone so assume that money doesn’t go towards the “transfer budget”.


3.) 11 Aug 2020 22:24:37
Our owners already invested the money in the squad, hoping that it would bring a return such as this to fund it. The investment paid off. It doesn’t mean that we can start spending it now. It’s already spent! This is what Ed02 means when he refers to FSG ‘buying the league’.

{Ed002's Note - What I was referring to was a change of direction from the club.}


4.) 11 Aug 2020 22:38:25
We have bills to pay so I would forget looking at any part of this revenue as part of any recruitment.


5.) 11 Aug 2020 22:29:27
Our wage bill is not £330m that’s another teams bill from down the road. Ours is still high though about £265m.

{Ed002's Note - The last set of accounts show it to have been £310 as of June 2019.}


6.) 11 Aug 2020 22:52:18
Thiago looks like the missing piece we need in midfield and wouldn’t be too expensive given last year of contract. Get him and a CB and we’re done. Ox and Minimino can cover front 3 and we can change formation if needed.


7.) 12 Aug 2020 06:52:49
Ed002 is correct about the wage bill MarkP08 and that info is straight from the club accounts. As we’ve signed up some players on new contracts I expect that wage bill to be even higher when the next accounts are published. I’m sure I saw the figure you quoted on Twitter recently and it was just the players wages listed - the club also has other staff wages to pay as well.


8.) 12 Aug 2020 07:34:57
Missing piece for what? We won the CL last season and finished on 97 points, we won the PL this season and could have gotten through the CL if it wasn't for Adrian's quite frankly pathetic performance. We have a fantastic hard working midfield and its missing nothing!


9.) 12 Aug 2020 13:31:52
Scarcity2.0 - whatever you say mate. No need to improve, we’ll stroll the league and no doubt win the champions league again if we can avoid Adrian being in goal. Klopp must be wrong again about wanting Thiago as the midfield and in fact entire team is not in need of any improvement at all.


 

 

04 Aug 2019 22:02:09
Mignolet apparently set to join club brugge for £8m. Any truth to this Ed's? If so does this mean we'll be looking to sign a number 2 before the window closes and if so will that be our last signing?

Cheers :)

{Ed002's Note - Possibly and yes it mean Liverpool will add a GK.}


1.) 05 Aug 2019 10:02:25
Check out club brugges' twitter, he is all over it with his medicals etc. So I am guessing the club have a replacement in mind. He clearly wanted first team football and the club got an acceptable deal.


 

 

 

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26 Jul 2021 17:08:48
I see! That would make sense for sure, Keita has been a total waste imo. Are the club actively looking or is it more just of an idea? Like are we actually going to move for a player in either of them positions? Putting it bluntly, is there anyone we’re going to move for in your opinion or is it going to be a quiet end for the window?

Cheers for the reply :)

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21 Jul 2021 13:47:44
Perhaps one to keep an eye on as an outside option then? Thanks for the reply :)


 

 

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17 Jun 2021 19:36:44
Yeah that’s a real shame, especially for those of us that actually value what they have to say. I religiously check this page daily and it’s a shame people ruin it for us all! You’re right though, can’t blame them.


 

 

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17 Jun 2021 17:47:23
If you don’t ask, you don’t get! Maybe they’re feeling generous!


 

 

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27 Nov 2020 09:53:09
He's more than welcome to move on Keita. The guy is nowhere near good enough.


 

 

 

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